back pain

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oh wendy i do hope you feel better soon. me, if it was pretty bad i would see a doc. just in case. but that is just me kassia

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I recently had some real PH issues which resulted in a pain similar to

what you describe. Have you taken your urine PH recently?

Was it alkaline or acid? Have you tried reducing the Vitamin C

(an acid)?

-Lana

I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops of

Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I started

experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that even

walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching,

tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week and

then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The

period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my

back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time

although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first time.

I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking that

might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only for a

few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the

Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped the

sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no such

luck. I haven't resumed that yet.

I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals, since

I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no,

that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney

functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests run.

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Hi Lana,

No, I haven't checked that although I do have some strips so I will

do that. The Vitamin C is the only other supplement that I have

added that I haven't discontinued to see if it made a difference. I

am an O blood type and from what I have read we are usually acidic by

nature so my guess is that the urine will test acidic too.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Dianne

>

> I recently had some real PH issues which resulted in a pain similar

to what

> you describe. Have you taken your urine PH recently? Was it

alkaline or

> acid? Have you tried reducing the Vitamin C (an acid)?

>

> -Lana

>

> I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops of

> > Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I

started

> > experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that

even

> > walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching,

> > tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week

and

> > then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The

> > period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my

> > back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time

> > although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first time.

> >

> > I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking

that

> > might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only

for a

> > few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the

> > Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped the

> > sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no

such

> > luck. I haven't resumed that yet.

> >

> > I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals,

since

> > I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no,

> > that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney

> > functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests

run.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have been taking 10 drops of 2% iodine-2.4%

sodium iodide first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.

It seems like I now need a little nap in

the afternoon but that is Ok because a sleep only 4-6 hours at night.

I have lost around 7 pounds in the last 10

days but I am cutting back on a few things since starting this treatment for10

days.

The only thing a little different is that

I get headaches a few times a day above my eyes.

I am 57 and weight 235 6’4’’and

in fairly good health.

Is this enough iodine?

Thanks

From: iodine

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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007

4:36 PM

iodine

Subject: Back Pain

Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney

area on both sides

when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is

would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or

experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose is

too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't?

I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops of

Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I started

experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that even

walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching,

tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week and

then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The

period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my

back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time

although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first time.

I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking that

might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only for a

few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the

Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped the

sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no such

luck. I haven't resumed that yet.

I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals, since

I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no,

that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney

functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests run.

Maybe it is hormonal issues, I don't know. The pain doesn't seem to

be in that area of the body though. It is above the waist area going

up my back on both sides. I am 51 and was having some problems with

frequent, light periods before I had the last 10 day one which was

heavy. My saliva tests in late September showed my progesterone

levels at >1000 due to three months of supplementing with

Progesterone cream. My latest saliva tests received last week showed

Progesterone down to 88 but I have no idea where in my cycle I am or

if I am in menopause now. That number would be in range if

postmenopausal and also in the follicular stage but quite low if in

luteal (65-500 range).

I am on 2 grains of Armour (just raised that dose last week) but have

been on Armour since early August so I don't think that is my

problem.

Any ideas or feedback?

Thanks!

Dianne

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Lana,

Although it is suggested on the box that PH be tested in the morning

I checked it just now and it was 6.4, so definitely acidic. I will

discontinue the additional Vitamin C that I am taking and see if that

makes a difference. My multi has 800 mg in it though.

Dianne

>

> I recently had some real PH issues which resulted in a pain similar

to what

> you describe. Have you taken your urine PH recently? Was it

alkaline or

> acid? Have you tried reducing the Vitamin C (an acid)?

>

> -Lana

>

> I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops of

> > Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I

started

> > experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that

even

> > walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching,

> > tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week

and

> > then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The

> > period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my

> > back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time

> > although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first time.

> >

> > I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking

that

> > might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only

for a

> > few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the

> > Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped the

> > sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no

such

> > luck. I haven't resumed that yet.

> >

> > I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals,

since

> > I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no,

> > that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney

> > functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests

run.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both sides

> when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is

> would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or

> experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose is

> too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't?

>

This sounds like Adrenal distress to me. Are you on any form of

adrenal support?

B.

[Guest guest]

the pain is adrenal (low)--how embarrassing for the endo. I really think 8 drops of Lugols might be more effective but you probly need cortef too. Saliva testing always shows very high if you are taking progesterone cream, I don't think it's reliable.

Gracia

Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both sides when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose is too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't? I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops of Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I started experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that even walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching, tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week and then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first time. I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking that might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only for a few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped the sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no such luck. I haven't resumed that yet. I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals, since I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no, that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests run.Maybe it is hormonal issues, I don't know. The pain doesn't seem to be in that area of the body though. It is above the waist area going up my back on both sides. I am 51 and was having some problems with frequent, light periods before I had the last 10 day one which was heavy. My saliva tests in late September showed my progesterone levels at >1000 due to three months of supplementing with Progesterone cream. My latest saliva tests received last week showed Progesterone down to 88 but I have no idea where in my cycle I am or if I am in menopause now. That number would be in range if postmenopausal and also in the follicular stage but quite low if in luteal (65-500 range).I am on 2 grains of Armour (just raised that dose last week) but have been on Armour since early August so I don't think that is my problem. Any ideas or feedback?Thanks!Dianne

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I was taking 8 pellets of Isocort a day for a while but had to wean

off in early December for a ACTH Stim test done by a new endo. I

still had pain with the Isocort. After I did new saliva tests on

January 22 I began self treating with HC. Now up to 15 mg a day.

Dianne

> >

> > Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both

sides

> > when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is

> > would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or

> > experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose

is

> > too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't?

> >

>

> This sounds like Adrenal distress to me. Are you on any form of

> adrenal support?

>

> B.

>

[Guest guest]

I wasn't overly impressed with the endo and will not be going back.

I am now self treating with HC.

I was expecting the progesterone levels to be high since I had used

it three weeks prior to the September saliva tests. I didn't use it

after that and the levels came back down. Basically I wanted those

tests for cortisol readings which showed Level 7 Adrenal Fatigue. I

was on 1 1/2 gr Armour and 25 mcg Cytomel at the time and the

addition of the Cytomel just about killed me (idiot GP). I stopped

the Cytomel right after the tests and began Isocort. My January

saliva tests showed Level 4 with the Cytomel out of my system and

still on the 1 1/2 grains. Still hypo though!

Dianne

>

>

> the pain is adrenal (low)--how embarrassing for the endo. I

really think 8 drops of Lugols might be more effective but you probly

need cortef too. Saliva testing always shows very high if you are

taking progesterone cream, I don't think it's reliable.

> Gracia

>

> Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both

sides

> when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is

> would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or

> experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose

is

> too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't?

>

> I began taking Vitamin C 3000 mg , 1/2 tsp sea salt, and 2 drops

of

> Lugol's a day in early October. The first week in November I

started

> experiencing severe back pain in the kidneys to the point that

even

> walking with small steps was painful. It was a burning, aching,

> tight feeling in that area of the back . This went on for a week

and

> then I began my period. The next day the pain eased somewhat. The

> period lasted 10 days and I haven't had one since. The pain in my

> back, however, still happens at times for a week or two at a time

> although not as incapacitating as when it happened the first

time.

>

> I just stopped taking the Lugol's for a couple of weeks thinking

that

> might be the problem and my back felt somewhat better but only

for a

> few days and the ache was back again. I just started with the

> Lugol's again at 2 drops daily a couple of days ago. I stopped

the

> sea salt 10 days ago, thinking that might be the problem, but no

such

> luck. I haven't resumed that yet.

>

> I asked the endo in December if the pain could be my adrenals,

since

> I went to him for low cortisol problems. He laughed and said no,

> that I needed to check with my GP and have him check my kidney

> functions. My kidneys were fine in mid summer when I had tests

run.

>

> Maybe it is hormonal issues, I don't know. The pain doesn't seem

to

> be in that area of the body though. It is above the waist area

going

> up my back on both sides. I am 51 and was having some problems

with

> frequent, light periods before I had the last 10 day one which

was

> heavy. My saliva tests in late September showed my progesterone

> levels at >1000 due to three months of supplementing with

> Progesterone cream. My latest saliva tests received last week

showed

> Progesterone down to 88 but I have no idea where in my cycle I am

or

> if I am in menopause now. That number would be in range if

> postmenopausal and also in the follicular stage but quite low if

in

> luteal (65-500 range).

>

> I am on 2 grains of Armour (just raised that dose last week) but

have

> been on Armour since early August so I don't think that is my

> problem.

>

> Any ideas or feedback?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Dianne

>

>

>

>

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you might want to take 5mg 4X a day=20mg.

Gracia

I was taking 8 pellets of Isocort a day for a while but had to wean off in early December for a ACTH Stim test done by a new endo. I still had pain with the Isocort. After I did new saliva tests on January 22 I began self treating with HC. Now up to 15 mg a day. Dianne> >> > Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both sides > > when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is > > would it last for 4 months? Anyone else have this problem? Or > > experience kidney pain on iodine supplementation? Maybe my dose is > > too low and the kidneys are trying to detox and can't? > > > > This sounds like Adrenal distress to me. Are you on any form of> adrenal support?> > B.>

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Back pain like that has always been an adrenal symptom for me.

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> Is it normal to experience back pain in the kidney area on both sides

> when using Lugol's? Could this be a symptom of detox? If it is

[Guest guest]

yep, same thing with the urination. It didnt' take much zilling to

alter the thing causes it. Just a few times a month for an hour on

the wrist is more than enough and I go down and stay down. Nice.

It's so fun finding serendipitous benefits like this. I took beta-

sitosterol, and that works, also, but you have to keep taking and

taking it. Zilling, once you do it awhile, seems to knock it out

very well for a much longer time than the supplements or pills.

ahhahahah amazing.

bG

>

> A month, or more, ago I reported zilling foot to foot with a 6v

battery for a number of hours without changing polarity, while

sitting at the pc. A day, or so, later my lower back was very

painful for about 3 days, and I blamed it on overloading the kidneys

with dead pathogens, or something. A suggestion was made to change

polarity every 5 or 10 minutes, and to not zill for that long at a

time. Much better would be to do no more than 20 or 30 minutes per

session, and zill 2 or 3 times a day instead.

>

> Because of visitors in the house I have not zilled for a week, or

two, but a few days ago I got the same lower back pain. The day

before the pain I had been standing at the work bench for many

hours. Evidently, I stand leaning slightly forward from the waist,

which puts a strain on my lower back muscles. Gone in about 3 days.

>

> So, this pain, and probably the previous one, were caused by over

stressed muscles, not from zilling too long.

>

> But, guess what. Since I have not been zilling foot to foot I have

been having to get up at nights. The current evidently keeps the

prostate from swelling, or for some reason I do not wake up with the

urge. Nice. Others have reported this also.

>

> Now I will take my old 4-AA battery holder, that I built for wrist

blood electrification, and crimp some pin connectors on it, so I can

use it with TENS electrodes, inner thigh to inner thigh. I can cut a

hole in one pocket to extend the wires, or fasten it on my belt. As

for switching polarity I guess I'll have to drop my trowsers every 5

minutes. Or maybe I can find an inline DPDT switch.

>

> Ain't this fun?

>

> Dick

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Donna, I have been off- line for a few days and just read your post. I am sorry you are having the dreaded back pain. I had a friend that had a little swelling too. The good news is that it will go away. It was so great meeting you and your wonderful husband in Mexicali. I am so glad we were there at the same time. Hopefully we will be able to meet up again someday. I will hopefully be taking Amy back for a check up with Dr Aceves the first week of April during her Spring Break. I am praying the airline tickets go down! Lets keep in touch! God Bless, Donna <dfs67@...> wrote: I have the pain all the time. I called and talked to and she said that it could be the swelling or that I still have a little left and that it will go away in time. I feel better about it. I am so paranoid about something going wrong. I am so happy I got my band...Thanks for everyones help!!!Donna Gross, LMP gross_julie123@... or jugross@... 425-346-0713

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HI DONNA

thIS IS ROSY i WAS THERE DURING THE SAME TIME, DID WE MEET?

SMILES

> I have the pain all the time. I called and talked to

and she

> said that it could be the swelling or that I still have a little

left

> and that it will go away in time. I feel better about it. I am so

> paranoid about something going wrong. I am so happy I got my

> band...Thanks for everyones help!!!

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Gross, LMP

> gross_julie123@... or

> jugross@...

> 425-346-0713

>

>

>

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>

> I recently joined but this is my first post. I have had two lower

> back surgeries for blown discs. The first being in 1988 from a

> football injury in high school. The second coming in 1998 from

> deadlifting (Stupid...I know!).

>

> The surgery was archaic in the 80's. Long recovery period, I missed

> most of my senior year in high school. Luckily I had both surgeries

> in Boston, some of the best medical facilities in the world.

>

> Second was much quicker recovery and went well. While in there

> though, they found my spinal cord liner had torn and was leaking

> fluid throughout my system, that explained while I was so sick for

> such a long time.

>

> I have been in the Marine Corps, graduated from college, ran many

> road races and most recently have dropped 50 lbs. Sure, my back

gets

> sore once in a while, but I attribute a much better success rate

now

> that I am in shape and have opted to loose a lot (not All!) of my

> belly. I am a firm believer in positive thinking and living a

healthy

> lifestyle. Nothing makes the body feel better than excercise. I,

like

> many of you, lived with such a tremendous amount of pain that only

> people with disc issue's know anything about. The struggles of day

to

> day activities were so difficult.

>

> Luckily, surgery is a final option now. For all of you with back

> problems, I feel your pain. Once able, start excersing your body

core

> and you, like me, will feel and see a change. Good Luck to all

>

> BIGURQ

>

Hi, and welcome. It is refreshing to hear success stories and you

certainly have overcome some big obtacles very early on in your life

time!! I am glad to hear that you are still sticking with your

program. For many here that is not an option at this point in our

injuries but hopefully once the body allows it that these core

exercises will be a part of our lives again. When I injured my back

the second time around I was feeling great (before injury)and had a

smooth exercise program going and had lost a substantial amount of

weight after a long haul with neck surgery, etc... I was probably

feeling better than I had felt in a long time and was even working

with weights and just overall felt in good shape--and of course the

reason I'm here--I messed up my back,but didn't even know it right

away. I started out with terrible foot pain while on the treadmill

and it about knocked me off my rocker--long story--here I am doing a

little bit of nothing. My hope is that someday I can get back where

I was because I felt on top of the world and now I feel like I'm at

the bottom. Thank you for sharing your story of hope and

encouragement!!

Gail

[Guest guest]

Bobby - I am sorry to hear about your ongoing problems. That lower

back area is such a problem for so many of us, with the associated leg

pain so often being a part of it. To me, it sounds like your doctor

has become apathetic. Perhaps it is time for another opinion. By the

way, what type of surgery did you have?

Strum

Bobby Frazier <frazmandemo@...> wrote:

>

> i have had two surgerys on l5=s1 disc.ihave ruptered discks from l1-

s2.my leg tends to seize up .the doctor ignores me.i am taking

neurotine it helped with pain for the most part.but they a lot of times

when myleg siezes ;and it is awfull.

>

[Guest guest]

Bobby - I am sorry to hear about your ongoing problems. That lower

back area is such a problem for so many of us, with the associated leg

pain so often being a part of it. To me, it sounds like your doctor

has become apathetic. Perhaps it is time for another opinion. By the

way, what type of surgery did you have?

Strum

Bobby Frazier <frazmandemo@...> wrote:

>

> i have had two surgerys on l5=s1 disc.ihave ruptered discks from l1-

s2.my leg tends to seize up .the doctor ignores me.i am taking

neurotine it helped with pain for the most part.but they a lot of times

when myleg siezes ;and it is awfull.

>

[Guest guest]

Can you get a consult from another doctor? At least

another doctor will do a neurological exam and prehaps

see what the problem could be.

Rochelle

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Can you get a consult from another doctor? At least

another doctor will do a neurological exam and prehaps

see what the problem could be.

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Your son needs to consult a spine/neuro surgeon to see

if the tumor can be removed. Needing to go through the

abdomen is not a good enough reason to delay treatment

especially when he is in such pain and perhaps in

danger of paralysis.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tracey,

Retaining fluid and getting back pain sounds as though it's possibly

low magnesium. Magnesium in blood/serum/cells is diluted by the

effect of the fluid build-up, plain and simple.

In theory your body should adjust the electrolyte content consistent

with what your kidneys do; sorry, it's the other way around, your

kidneys should adjust your sodium (and chloride) content consistent

with the blood level of sodium.....everything else should, in theory,

fit in with the steady loss of both potassium, magnesium and sulphate

via the kidneys and/or sweating mechanisms.

Being sick or having the runs also puts a lot of pressure on the

electrolytes, hence, becomes critical in babies and can cause

distress (can be life-threatening) in adults too.

Rehydration with plain salt water won't work, since it also requires

glucose (from any source) to get the sodium back in via a

sodium/glucose 'co-transporter' system in the gut.

The cells that absorb the sodium have proteins in their surface that

need both glucose and sodium to work properly.

It's a bit like a chip shop will only sell " fish and chips " and not

just " chips " or " fish " on their own...:-)..if you see the analogy.

In the case of magnesium, both postassium and magnesium seem to be

needed to maintain some sort of equilibrium .....that's most of the

reason for the advice " five portions " of fruit and/or vegetables a

day.

So rah,rah,rah, at least something does make sense.

The mechanisms by which magnesium is both absorbed and disposed

around the body have only recently (last few years ) been discovered

(R. Bindels et al).....the need for magnesium has likewise been known

for a very long time but the actual cellular sites and mechanisms

have taken longer to put together, in a consistent manner.

A touch of magnesium at certain times of the month is likely to be

helpful, and only you can tell when that is.

best wishes

Bob

>

> My lower back is in agony again. I have noticed that this always

> happens when I have periods of sudden weight gain/fluid retention(?)

>

> Yesterday I woke up 3 1b heavier than the previous day and, as it

> was the week following my period, I am normally at my lightest

then.

> I had difficulty physically moving around, even bending forwards.

> Today My legs are cramping too.

>

> I have my GP appointment at 4pm this afternoon so he can give his

> verdict on my most recent bloods (TSH 6.18 and T4 9.20) - he'd

> better diagnose me this time as I am so fed up with feeling awful.

>

> What I'd like to ask forum members is could my periodic back spasms

> be due to thyroid problems or are they more likely to be something

> else entirely? I KNOW the fluid retention is connected with my

> failing thyroid but I don't want to be talked into being fobbed off

> with diuretics - especially as I'm having palpitations and

breathing

> difficulties much more frequently these days.

>

> Ta,

> Tracey

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tracey,

Diuretics can work wonders so don't discount them entirely. When

you get your thyroid sorted you may be able to stop, but in the meantime why

suffer unnecessarily? The pain may be also because of your menstrual cycle

as low thyroid can royally mess this up.

Subject: Back pain

My lower back is in agony again. I have noticed that this always

happens when I have periods of sudden weight gain/fluid retention(?)

Yesterday I woke up 3 1b heavier than the previous day and, as it

was the week following my period, I am normally at my lightest then.

I had difficulty physically moving around, even bending forwards.

Today My legs are cramping too.

I have my GP appointment at 4pm this afternoon so he can give his

verdict on my most recent bloods (TSH 6.18 and T4 9.20) - he'd

better diagnose me this time as I am so fed up with feeling awful.

What I'd like to ask forum members is could my periodic back spasms

be due to thyroid problems or are they more likely to be something

else entirely? I KNOW the fluid retention is connected with my

failing thyroid but I don't want to be talked into being fobbed off

with diuretics - especially as I'm having palpitations and breathing

difficulties much more frequently these days.

Ta,

Tracey

Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always

consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication.

[Guest guest]

Hi Tracey - BEG him to give you a trial of thyroxine this time. I posted earlier saying what the consequences of untreated hypothyroidism were - and this is quite frightening. Copy that out and show him. Good luck, I will be thinking about you. The pain is very likely to be caused because you are not getting the T3 into your muscles that they need. With such a low T4 and raised TSH, it is frightening that they are not giving you a diagnosis.

Luv - Sheila

My lower back is in agony again. I have noticed that this always happens when I have periods of sudden weight gain/fluid retention(?)Yesterday I woke up 3 1b heavier than the previous day and, as it was the week following my period, I am normally at my lightest then. I had difficulty physically moving around, even bending forwards. Today My legs are cramping too.I have my GP appointment at 4pm this afternoon so he can give his verdict on my most recent bloods (TSH 6.18 and T4 9.20) - he'd better diagnose me this time as I am so fed up with feeling awful.What I'd like to ask forum members is could my periodic back spasms be due to thyroid problems or are they more likely to be something else entirely? I KNOW the fluid retention is connected with my failing thyroid but I don't want to be talked into being fobbed off with diuretics - especially as I'm having palpitations and breathing difficulties much more frequently these days.Ta,Tracey

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[Guest guest]

I take diuretics and have for years. When I don't take them, I swell like a balloon and my feet are utterly unbearable. I take 50 mgs Co-Amizolide daily. Quite simply, if you a person who retains fluid, then you need to get rid of it.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Tracey,Diuretics can work wonders so don't discount them entirely. Whenyou get your thyroid sorted you may be able to stop, but in the meantime whysuffer unnecessarily? The pain may be also because of your menstrual cycleas low thyroid can royally mess this up.Subject: Back painMy lower back is in agony again. I have noticed that this always happens when I have periods of sudden weight gain/fluid retention(?)Yesterday I woke up 3 1b heavier than the previous day and, as it was the week following my period, I am normally at my lightest then. I had difficulty physically moving around, even bending forwards. Today My legs are cramping too.I have my GP appointment at 4pm this afternoon so he can give his verdict on my most recent bloods (TSH 6.18 and T4 9.20) - he'd better diagnose me this time as I am so fed up with feeling awful.What I'd like to ask forum members is could my periodic back spasms be due to thyroid problems or are they more likely to be something else entirely? I KNOW the fluid retention is connected with my failing thyroid but I don't want to be talked into being fobbed off with diuretics - especially as I'm having palpitations and breathing difficulties much more frequently these days.Ta,TraceyMessages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Alwaysconsult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication.

[Guest guest]

I swell up periodically and it is different to what I would call

normal fluid retention. I used to regularly get the pre-menstrual

bloating and swollen ankles but that always went in one day and was

quite managable.

These recent swelling episodes don't tie in with my monthly cycle

and affect me all over, even my eyes hurt and around my eye

sockets. It always corresponds to feeling bitterly cold and shaky

and, on increasingly, I get the stiff back and cramping too. I tried

taking some herbal diuretics but they did not work at all. I'm

careful to eat plenty of fresh fruit and veg and to drink a sensible

amount of fluid.

Normally this time of month I wee out all the fluid gained during my

period. It just didn't happen this time or the last.

My mum was put on diuretics in the years before her hypothyroidism

was discovered. She got heart palpitations and sometimes collapsed

in the street while she was taking them. That has caused me to be a

bit wary of taking them myself. Since she's been on thyroxine, the

fluid retention problem has been less of an issue for her.

Anyway, I'm off to the GP in a couple of hours so hopefully will be

in a better position afterwards. that is, if I can even make it up

the road! I can barely walk at the moment and am frantically warming

myself up with hot water bottles.

Tracey

>

> I take diuretics and have for years. When I don't take them, I

swell like a balloon and my feet are utterly unbearable. I take 50

mgs Co-Amizolide daily. Quite simply, if you a person who retains

fluid, then you need to get rid of it.