raw goat milk yogurt kefir

[Guest guest]

I get goat milk from the Amish and ferment it for up to 36 hours. I make both

yogurt and kefir. Still having a hard time believing there is enough sugar to

feed candida. Maybe the benefits of supplying the good bacteria outweigh the

little bit of sugar you might consume. I still need a little convincing so some

articles or some feedback from some people who have gone off of raw milk yogurt

or kefir, and the results ,would be helpful for me. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

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> I get goat milk from the Amish and ferment it for up to 36 hours. I make both

yogurt and kefir. Still having a hard time believing there is enough sugar to

feed candida. Maybe the benefits of supplying the good bacteria outweigh the

little bit of sugar you might consume. I still need a little convincing so some

articles or some feedback from some people who have gone off of raw milk yogurt

or kefir, and the results ,would be helpful for me.

+++Hi P.

Welcome to our group. All of the information about " supposedly " good or

friendly bacteria is false. That's why I've removed taking any probiotics on my

program - see this article which explains why:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php

Many members have reported doing better when they eliminated all dairy products

except butter, butter oil or ghee, so you can do a search of our messages on the

group for them:

/messages

Also lactose is one of the most difficult sugars for most adults to digest, and

if the person is unhealthy it will be even worse for them. The reason butter is

okay is because " the higher the butterfat content in dairy, the lower the

lactose. " Also butterfat helps the body digest lactose and proteins in dairy.

Since you are new it is important you read two important articles so you know

what you need to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi I used to ferment my yogourt and kefir for a long time and then allow

it to drip too, to be extra careful to remove the lactose. Sadly for my family

it wasn't enough. As soon as we took them out, we all went into a major healing

crisis. It was the big issue that proved that Bee's program had alot to offer.

We came here via many other seemingly similiar diets; ie GAPS, SCD etc.

Good luck.

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> I get goat milk from the Amish and ferment it for up to 36 hours. I make both

yogurt and kefir. Still having a hard time believing there is enough sugar to

feed candida. Maybe the benefits of supplying the good bacteria outweigh the

little bit of sugar you might consume. I still need a little convincing so some

articles or some feedback from some people who have gone off of raw milk yogurt

or kefir, and the results ,would be helpful for me. Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi I used to ferment my yogourt and kefir for a long time and then

allow it to drip too, to be extra careful to remove the lactose. Sadly for my

family it wasn't enough. As soon as we took them out, we all went into a major

healing crisis. It was the big issue that proved that Bee's program had alot to

offer. We came here via many other seemingly similiar diets; ie GAPS, SCD etc.

+++Hi ,

Just so you understand about yogurt and kefir. When they are fermented the

lactose is changed into another kind of sugar, called galactose, so that's why

your family didn't do well on them.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

What are your thoughts on water kefir? No lactose nor casein. I really think

that kefir is as natural as you can get pertaining to probiotics. This can

greatly suppress the candida overgrowth provided all the organic acids.

Luke

> >

> > Hi I used to ferment my yogourt and kefir for a long time and then

allow it to drip too, to be extra careful to remove the lactose. Sadly for my

family it wasn't enough. As soon as we took them out, we all went into a major

healing crisis. It was the big issue that proved that Bee's program had alot to

offer. We came here via many other seemingly similiar diets; ie GAPS, SCD etc.

>

> +++Hi ,

>

> Just so you understand about yogurt and kefir. When they are fermented the

lactose is changed into another kind of sugar, called galactose, so that's why

your family didn't do well on them.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> What are your thoughts on water kefir? No lactose nor casein. I really think

that kefir is as natural as you can get pertaining to probiotics. This can

greatly suppress the candida overgrowth provided all the organic acids.

+++Hi Luke,

I removed taking probiotics, whether from foods or supplements, from my program

because of my research into the subject.

One of the simpliest reasons IS, even if you consume foods that contain " live

bacteria " your digestive system digests them like it does anything else, and all

probiotics, whether alive or not, contain protein, fat and carbs, so they cannot

possibly arrive intact in the large intestine where they are " supposedly "

needed.

Also, in order for the small and large intestines to be healthy they must

maintain an alkaline environment, not acidic. That's why foods emptying out of

the stomach into the intestines is first make alkaline by the pancreas which

pours on lots of baking soda to neutralize stomach acid. After that the

pancreas produces digestive enzymes which only work in an alkaline environment.

Also bile is alkaline.

The small and large intestines also produce baking soda.

Second, it isn't true that probiotics suppresses candida overgrowth.

See this article to understand all of the facts about probiotics:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the clarification! You made a good point about probiotics (bacteria)

making it past the gut.

I assume the body 'creates' it own then???? if so, is that how flora is

re-inoculated ?

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > What are your thoughts on water kefir? No lactose nor casein. I really think

that kefir is as natural as you can get pertaining to probiotics. This can

greatly suppress the candida overgrowth provided all the organic acids.

>

> +++Hi Luke,

>

> I removed taking probiotics, whether from foods or supplements, from my

program because of my research into the subject.

>

> One of the simpliest reasons IS, even if you consume foods that contain " live

bacteria " your digestive system digests them like it does anything else, and all

probiotics, whether alive or not, contain protein, fat and carbs, so they cannot

possibly arrive intact in the large intestine where they are " supposedly "

needed.

>

> Also, in order for the small and large intestines to be healthy they must

maintain an alkaline environment, not acidic. That's why foods emptying out of

the stomach into the intestines is first make alkaline by the pancreas which

pours on lots of baking soda to neutralize stomach acid. After that the

pancreas produces digestive enzymes which only work in an alkaline environment.

Also bile is alkaline.

>

> The small and large intestines also produce baking soda.

>

> Second, it isn't true that probiotics suppresses candida overgrowth.

>

> See this article to understand all of the facts about probiotics:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks for the clarification! You made a good point about probiotics

(bacteria) making it past the gut.

>

> I assume the body 'creates' it own then???? if so, is that how flora is

re-inoculated ?

+++Hi Luke,

You are thinking right! Our bodies are smart enough to create any good bacteria

they require, when, and IF, needed, just like they will balance out all

nutrient, hormone, water, etc. levels IF we treat them right!

There may be some natural flora that is healthy, but the kinds recommended as

probiotics are definitely not healthy.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I guess food-based probiotics such as sauerkraut are better choices.

Thanks Bee! you're the best...

> >

> > Thanks for the clarification! You made a good point about probiotics

(bacteria) making it past the gut.

> >

> > I assume the body 'creates' it own then???? if so, is that how flora is

re-inoculated ?

>

> +++Hi Luke,

>

> You are thinking right! Our bodies are smart enough to create any good

bacteria they require, when, and IF, needed, just like they will balance out all

nutrient, hormone, water, etc. levels IF we treat them right!

>

> There may be some natural flora that is healthy, but the kinds recommended as

probiotics are definitely not healthy.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I guess food-based probiotics such as sauerkraut are better choices.

+++Hi Luke,

Whether probiotics are in fermented foods like sauerkraut or not, they still get

digested like any other foods. Even though they may be alive when you consume

them, they won't be as soon as stomach acid starts digesting the protein portion

in them.

Bee