Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hi ,I am so sorry, I used the wrong word; the two brand names sound similar. I did not mean 'Lysol' (that is the US version of Dettol complete clean, which is useful in its own right). The word I meant to use was 'Lyclear cream' which has permethrin, if my memory serves, at a concentration of 10%. My mother used that all over her body & rather too often IMO. Her GP prescribed tubes of cream but, because it only seemed to work for a couple of days before it was just as bad as before, she was going out & buying more Lyclear cream from the chemist's at £10 per tube. I found 10% permethrin animal wash, for very low cost, here in US & sent that over. The same is available in UK at agricultural merchants (such as a farmer's co-op) & it is exactly the same active ingredient, just cheaper. It can also be used on the dogs; shame it is so toxic to cats. My mother did have a lot of trouble with them attacking her feet. Which was one of the reasons it seemed logical to think they might be attracted by fungus.Apart from the strong DEET which I send over, when she was waiting for some more to arrive, she tried putting baking soda or borax (I think it was baking soda) inside poly bags on her feet (as suggested by Bill) & that helped. Good luck,KrysOn 14 December 2011 12:25, christine french <karmakatmeow@...> wrote: Hi krys Did they burrow into ur mums feet? Did she just put lysol etc on her feet not rest o body? N for how long? The crawling sensation on my thighs v upseting too I realy dont know how people cope long term I really dont!:-( On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 18:11 GMT Krys Brennand wrote: >Hi , >My mother finds that 98% DEET effective on her feet. Not sure whether they >sell DEET that strong in UK; I usually buy a few bottles & post it over. >Some of the oils such as lemon eucalyptus & geranium might help. >The GP will prescribe the Lysol permethrin cream; my mother says it helps >but only for a couple of days; she was using it too often. Permethrin wash >for animals (also 10%) available at agricultural merchants in UK. >Regards, >Krys > >On 14 December 2011 11:22, christine french <karmakatmeow@...>wrote: > >> >> >> How are u feeling today kaz? >> Yeah horid to not be taken seriously!:-( >> Yeah on major anti fungal things too >> Tho had spray feet wi insecticide saltidin yestrday >> V woried permanently on toes >> Have get permethrin cream tmoro >> Use al oer body then week later as elissa said >> Stay away from karma as toxic to them >> Oh not lookin forward to that >> O kaz if wasnt for mites lovely flat b ideal but cant take a chance >> Too many soft furnishings >> The one im goin to in a week has linoleam floor >> Well carpet bein replaced jan >> An wil get own bed n seats >> Have play safe >> N karma sick often so only place I can go >> Feel ill >> Its so horid:-( >> Birdmites :-( >> Shall give u new number when I phone >> Tc x >> >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 09:46 GMT Keogh wrote: >> >> >Thanks >> > >> >I felt humiliated by that doctor ( I even asked to see that one as I >> thought he would be nicer than the other doctor there !) >> > >> >I'm off work for 3 weeks from Friday, so I'm going to start my own >> internals - using oil of oregano with olive leaf extract, msm and vitamins. >> > >> >It's a shame you couldn't take that nice flat - although I would have >> thought wooden floors may have been better ? - I hope the next flat is >> nice, you deserve it after such an horrendous time. >> > >> >Take care >> > >> >Kaz x >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ >> > From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...> >> >bird mites >> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:59 PM >> >Subject: Re: Anti-Fungals >> > >> > >> > >> >O h kaz >> >Sorry he such an insensitive doctor!:-( >> >I understand ur sadness >> >I was angry at my doc too >> >Not willing give me anything internal. >> >As no proof >> >Think will buy permethrin cream if can get over counter >> >Or online >> >Taking pau d arco herb ...higher nature... >> >Candi clear >> >It hurtful not taken seriously >> >Saw wonderful flat tonite >> >Cudnt take cos wooden floors n fabric make too worried >> >Have take less nice one >> >May be week or so before csn move >> >Drivin me crazy here bloody evil insects!:-( >> >Tc >> >Ck x >> >On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 23:06 GMT Keogh wrote: >> > >> >>Hi Krys & Aandraya >> >> >> >>Thankyou for your support, it's so nice to know that others know exactly >> what you are going through.. >> >> >> >>I think it may be a little too late to say I've been bitten by a tick to >> that doctor, as I told him today it would have been caused by the mites :0/ >> >> >> >> >> >>Anyway, I don't want to see him anymore - when I move I will be >> changing my doctor, although when I've calmed down a bit I will write a >> letter of complaint. >> >> >> >>I will look online for the doxy - I already take B complex, but will >> look into the other supplements as well. >> >> >> >>Thanks again >> >> >> >>kaz x >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> >> >>bird mites >> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:18 PM >> >>Subject: Re: Anti-Fungals >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Dear Kaz, >> >> >> >> >> >>Reading about GPs like yours just makes me so cross. The arrogance of >> some of these doctors ( & vets for that matter). It sounds like they treated >> you just like my mother's GPs treated her. Don't be scared of standing up >> to them & telling them they're wrong. Don't worry about upsetting them, >> after all they're not worried about upsetting you. >> >>You could put in an official complaint to your local health authority. >> The health authority won't want you to complain & will give you a load of >> nonsense, but your GP will start to jump through hoops. When I started >> kicking up a fuss over the treatment of my mother, all of a sudden the GPs >> started doing what I'd been trying to get them to do for months. >> >> >> >>As far as approaching GPs, if one knows they're not going to take one >> seriously if one tells the truth, then make it something they have to take >> seriously. It's a means to an end & if you have to say you were bitten by a >> tick in the New Forest in order to make them give you a Lyme Test, then do >> it. Don't give them the chance to say you're wrong or make you feel stupid; >> go in there with all the info & tell them precisely what you want. Be >> confident; be assertive. >> >> >> >>Wishing you all the best, >> >>Krys >> >> >> >> >> >>On 13 December 2011 15:18, Keogh <kazk1@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi Everybody >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>I went to see my doctor today to ask him about tests for lyme and co >> infections.. He totally dismissed what I was saying, by telling me that if >> I had lyme I would ' be on a life support machine ' by now - he said lyme >> is only in North America and all but non existent in the UK. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>I went on to say I think bird mites are attracted to me possibly due to >> fungus and he said he will not prescribe itraconazole or any other >> medication for that matter... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>By this time I was in tears.. I tried to hold them in, but it all got >> too much - and then I couldn't stop. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>He said that I need absolute proof of what I have got before >> prescribing any medication at all. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>When my 10 minutes was up he said ' I have a queue of people out there >> waiting to see me so you had better go'. I was in bits and he didn't give a >> damn. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Needless to say, I am very low at the moment with it all.. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Thanks for listening >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Kaz x >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>________________________________ >> >>> From: Aandraya <aandraya@...> >> >>> " bird mites " <bird mites > >> >>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:49 PM >> >>>Subject: Re: Anti-Fungals >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Kaz- >> >>>Don't bother to get the coinfection tests, waste of money and the >> infections don't show up, they are diagnosed based on symptoms. DO make >> sure he orders the IGENIX Labs Lyme western blot- #188 and #189 ONLY, >> ($198). It is not necessary to get the other Lyme panels. If your doc has >> never used this lab and doesn't have a lab kit you need to call Igenix and >> they'll send you the kit with the Fed Ex box to send the blood back. If >> your doctor can diagnose you clinically in the meantime, better. Do a >> trial run of Bactrim, Doxy and Itraconazole... And see how you respond. >> Is he an LLMD? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Aandraya >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Keogh <kazk1@...> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Hi Aandraya >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>I've got my appointment tomorrow with doctor - I will ask to be tested >> for lyme and any other infections I may have - I also want to start >> itraconazole to see if that helps - did you find that helped with your >> recovery ? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Kaz x >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>________________________________ >> >>>> From: Aandraya <aandraya@...> >> >>>> " bird mites " <bird mites > >> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:44 AM >> >>>>Subject: Re: Anti-Fungals >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Any MD, Naturopathic docs in some states and nurse practitioners can >> prescribe Rx antifungals. >> >>>>Aa >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Linds J <lj_mom11@...> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>What Dr. prescribes anti-fungals? Aggi- Did you realize you had a >> fungus after getting better on the anti-fungals and less mites? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> >> >>>>>bird mites >> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:03 PM >> >>>>>Subject: Re: Re: moving >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Aggi, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>I think I need to be on that one too. I've been on Candex, an over >> the counter fungal and I have noticed a decrease in any sensations. >> Itraconazole would probably do even better. However, my liver enzymes are >> getting higher and higher and I think my doctor wants me to go off all meds >> and maybe even supplemets for a while to let liver rest and recuperate. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>I wonder if Candex is available in GB for ? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>From: " Aggi Assmann " <aggi_assmann@...> >> >>>>>bird mites >> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PM >> >>>>>Subject: Re: Re: moving >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Hi Linds, I am not even taking the sulfur caps any longer. The only >> med I am taking for 2 months now is the anti-fungal, called Itraconazole >> 100 mg caps. I take one cap in the morning and one on the night. The mites >> do get less and less interested in me since, I am making continious >> improvement, so for me I definitely have a fungus in my body. I will keep >> taking it until I feel completely mite-free. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Von: Linds J <lj_mom11@...> >> >>>>>An: " bird mites " <bird mites > >> >>>>>Gesendet: 1:30 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011 >> >>>>>Betreff: Re: Re: moving >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to >> treat internally besides the sulfur capsules? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> >> >>>>>bird mites >> >>>>>Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PM >> >>>>>Subject: Re: moving >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>You are welcome , >> >>>>>Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no >> additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself >> untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur! >> >>>>>Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called >> Kaja Health. >> >>>>>I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I >> was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as >> noone else around got the mites of me. >> >>>>>Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only. >> >>>>>After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed >> big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy >> condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009. >> >>>>>I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent >> plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible. >> >>>>>Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! >> >>>>>Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing. >> >>>>>Did >> >> not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, >> walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop. >> >>>>>Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the >> couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress >> everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now. >> >>>>>Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating " we >> are no pest controllers " . Had 4 different pest control companies working >> for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on >> the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... >> no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept >> reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !! >> >>>>>I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life >> again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us. >> >>>>>We're all here to help with pleasure ! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from... >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> >------------------------------------ >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I did the same, went with the program. They didn't give me any drugs though. The day I got out I flew to Florida to see a doctor who diagnosed me with Lyme and coinfections.AaOn Dec 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: Well, the psychiatrist there prescribed me Risperdal b/c they said I was "delusional." I heard that over and over again while there. I tried the Risperdal for 1 day and it made me feel crazy, so my mother told me to just put it under my tongue and then spit it out, which I did. We had group therapy every day, so I got to listen to everyone's elses problems -- that might have helped a little. I knew from the 1st night it was a BIG MISTAKE for me to be there -- they did not believe me at all and I decided not to mention the mite problem after that. Family did visit me every night and my brother in Ohio called Sat. night and told me to not say anything, just go with the program and get the hell out of there, which I did. It was a very frightening experience and the nurses just sit around and watch you and try to control you with drugs. Very, very sad. But I'm trying to put back what is left of my life now... On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: Me too! I stayed only 2 nights. What did they do for you during the 5 days there? Unbelievable. One thing I learned from that experience, and my Lyme doc to be coached me by phone- had never even met me- he said whatever you do don't talk about bugs, don't even say the word- bug. Boy was he right. I never brought up the springtails I had seen on me, the psychiatrist said he would discharge me after my first meeting with him. Aandraya On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:05 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: Thanks -- after spending 5 days in the psych unit after going to my PCP I am not ready to go to another doctor right now. They think you are delusional. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Elissa <elissarachel@...> wrote: Dismissed by my primary care dr. too. Ended up in tears with him patronizing me more...didn't see him again. Lyme doctors were great to me though! Hang in there. You just have to find the right dr. On Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote: Also taking daily baths with MMS1 helps while taking internally. Use no soap with the bath just MMS. I scrubbed good with lye soap in shower, and shampooed with lye, then rinsed well and soaked. > > >> > >> > > What Dr. prescribes ... > > > *From:* "Goldstein@" <Goldstein@> > > > *To:* bird mites > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:03 PM > > > *Sub... > > > **bird mites > > > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PM > > > *S... > > > *An:* "bird mites " <bird mites > > > > *Gesendet:* 1:30 Die... > > > *To:* bird mites > > > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PM > > > *Subje... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 MMS requires reading and studying. Then afterwards ask what your not sure of:) http://jimhumble.biz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 How many drops at a time did you take? I took 2 today, but feel fuzzy headed. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: I have had great success with MMS. There are many new protocols from when I treated, I am now on maintenance dosage.Here are the different protocols, remember pulsing is important, taking small doses frequency is pulsing. Also important start slow and do not make yourself sick, the objective is to kill slowly and boost the immune system. I used MMS2 with my last dosage and protocol, reason just discovered. Read and read some more:) Then go for it, remember slow, and frequencies. If the taste gets to much capsule the MMS1 and then take with at least 8oz water. The more water you drink the better, helps the kidneys and live flush to. Take no Vitamin C within a 2 hour window, or antioxidant it will cancel the MMS. http://jimhumble.biz/ > > > >>> > > > >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >------------------------------------> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I can now take 15 drops with little side effect, in the beginning 2 drops was tough. Go slow try 1 drop every 2 hours in at least 4oz of preferably distilled water. The protocol is listed here. Read this first, then read some more. http://jimhumble.biz/biz-intro.htm http://jimhumble.biz/ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Sorry to hear about that experience. THey tend to make you feel crazy if nothing else by not believing you and you know it´s true. I wouldn´t either talk about bugs or mites with doctors anymore, because of the way they acted when I did...TAKE CARE!Cecilia From: <terelynjon@...> bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Re: Anti-Fungals Well, the psychiatrist there prescribed me Risperdal b/c they said I was "delusional." I heard that over and over again while there. I tried the Risperdal for 1 day and it made me feel crazy, so my mother told me to just put it under my tongue and then spit it out, which I did. We had group therapy every day, so I got to listen to everyone's elses problems -- that might have helped a little. I knew from the 1st night it was a BIG MISTAKE for me to be there -- they did not believe me at all and I decided not to mention the mite problem after that. Family did visit me every night and my brother in Ohio called Sat. night and told me to not say anything, just go with the program and get the hell out of there, which I did. It was a very frightening experience and the nurses just sit around and watch you and try to control you with drugs. Very, very sad. But I'm trying to put back what is left of my life now... On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: Me too! I stayed only 2 nights. What did they do for you during the 5 days there? Unbelievable. One thing I learned from that experience, and my Lyme doc to be coached me by phone- had never even met me- he said whatever you do don't talk about bugs, don't even say the word- bug. Boy was he right. I never brought up the springtails I had seen on me, the psychiatrist said he would discharge me after my first meeting with him. Aandraya On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:05 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: Thanks -- after spending 5 days in the psych unit after going to my PCP I am not ready to go to another doctor right now. They think you are delusional. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Elissa <elissarachel@...> wrote: Dismissed by my primary care dr. too. Ended up in tears with him patronizing me more...didn't see him again. Lyme doctors were great to me though! Hang in there. You just have to find the right dr. On Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote: Also taking daily baths with MMS1 helps while taking internally. Use no soap with the bath just MMS. I scrubbed good with lye soap in shower, and shampooed with lye, then rinsed well and soaked. > > >> > >> > > What Dr. prescribes ... > > > *From:* "Goldstein@" <Goldstein@> > > > *To:* bird mites > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:03 PM > > > *Sub... > > > **bird mites > > > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PM > > > *S... > > > *An:* "bird mites " <bird mites > > > > *Gesendet:* 1:30 Die... > > > *To:* bird mites > > > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PM > > > *Subje... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 HiTresa The same thing happed to me when I went the Dr. you are thinking to much about fleas he said ... It Devastated me , I had no forum to learn from .. just a vet who said he used flea shampoo, that is nasty & dosnt work well Dry borax like a snow storm on everything & under everything applied carefully with a mask on & left kills them & this mix on the skin http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheap then after every shower 2 tbls coconut oil in the tub & soak for 5-10 mins & & spray the envronment & the bug can't move ...bye bye bug .. Throw out stuff that takes more time to clean then it is worth . Pray hard God will help , he is good . God bless you , Bill ps SKF , the poster I learned about Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup in the bath & soak for 20-30 mins ,she was locked up by her family in the nut house too for a while . She got out & discoverd & used the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent on everything & killed them all , she also moved out for 6 months & came back & now helps her family that has it ,still she is uneffected & ok , it has been almost 3 years for her & me . She feels them once in a while a just bathes them off with the a & h . Praise His Holy Name Jesus , Many are the affictions of the rightoues ut God delivers them of them all , this too shall pass.. this is the best post I ever read : it has many may answers in it : Here it is : Mites and farmer tricks link bird mites/message/10634 I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about them. I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place. We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters. As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing " recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry. If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties Summary : Borax$3.99 Mustard 2.00 skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99 pinesol $4.00 bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com baking soda $1.00 tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s paste Pretty cheap ! And they work On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 8:19 AM EST Cecilia Borg wrote:>Sorry to hear about that experience. THey tend to make you feel crazy if nothing else by not believing you and you know it´s true. I wouldn´t either talk about bugs or mites with doctors anymore, because of the way they acted when I did...>TAKE CARE!>Cecilia>>>________________________________> From: <terelynjon@...>>bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:42 PM>Subject: Re: Re: Anti-Fungals> >> >Well, the psychiatrist there prescribed me Risperdal b/c they said I was " delusional. " I heard that over and over again while there. I tried the Risperdal for 1 day and it made me feel crazy, so my mother told me to just put it under my tongue and then spit it out, which I did. We had group therapy every day, so I got to listen to everyone's elses problems -- that might have helped a little. I knew from the 1st night it was a BIG MISTAKE for me to be there -- they did not believe me at all and I decided not to mention the mite problem after that. Family did visit me every night and my brother in Ohio called Sat. night and told me to not say anything, just go with the program and get the hell out of there, which I did. It was a very frightening experience and the nurses just sit around and watch you and try to control you with drugs. Very, very sad. But I'm trying to put back what is left of my life now...>>>On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:>> >> >>Me too! I stayed only 2 nights. What did they do for you during the 5 days there? Unbelievable. One thing I learned from that experience, and my Lyme doc to be coached me by phone- had never even met me- he said whatever you do don't talk about bugs, don't even say the word- bug. Boy was he right. I never brought up the springtails I had seen on me, the psychiatrist said he would discharge me after my first meeting with him.>>>>>>Aandraya >>>>>>>>>>On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:05 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:>>>>>> >>>Thanks -- after spending 5 days in the psych unit after going to my PCP I am not ready to go to another doctor right now. They think you are delusional. >>>>>>>>>On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Elissa <elissarachel@...> wrote:>>>>>> >>>> >>>>Dismissed by my primary care dr. too. Ended up in tears with him patronizing me more...didn't see him again. Lyme doctors were great to me though! Hang in there. You just have to find the right dr.>>>>On Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Also taking daily baths with MMS1 helps while taking internally. Use no soap with the bath just MMS. I scrubbed good with lye soap in shower, and shampooed with lye, then rinsed well and soaked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > What Dr. prescribes ... > > > *From:* " Goldstein@ " <Goldstein@> >>>>>> > > *To:* bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:03 PM>>>>>> > > *Sub... > > > **bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PM>>>>>> > > *S... >>>>>> > > *An:* " bird mites " <bird mites >>>>>>> > > *Gesendet:* 1:30 Die...> > > *To:* bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PM>>>>>> > > *Subje... >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Thanks Bill. I use Borax for laundry. I cannot tolerate coconut oil or Arm & Hammer right now, but I may try flowers of sulfur. I'm a lot better than a few months ago. Albeit out of my condo and living with my parents who never want to hear anything about what I'm going through... the last couple of days have been a little harder b/c of the rain and humidity. But thank God there are some good days when I feel hardly anything now. I guess it used to be that way for people with cancer -- no one wanted to talk about it, etc. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Doe <doe1769@...> wrote: HiTresa The same thing happed to me when I went the Dr. you are thinking to much about fleas he said ... It Devastated me , I had no forum to learn from .. just a vet who said he used flea shampoo, that is nasty & dosnt work well Dry borax like a snow storm on everything & under everything applied carefully with a mask on & left kills them & this mix on the skin http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheap then after every shower 2 tbls coconut oil in the tub & soak for 5-10 mins & & spray the envronment & the bug can't move ...bye bye bug .. Throw out stuff that takes more time to clean then it is worth . Pray hard God will help , he is good . God bless you , Bill ps SKF , the poster I learned about Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup in the bath & soak for 20-30 mins ,she was locked up by her family in the nut house too for a while . She got out & discoverd & used the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent on everything & killed them all , she also moved out for 6 months & came back & now helps her family that has it ,still she is uneffected & ok , it has been almost 3 years for her & me . She feels them once in a while a just bathes them off with the a & h . Praise His Holy Name Jesus , Many are the affictions of the rightoues ut God delivers them of them all , this too shall pass.. this is the best post I ever read : it has many may answers in it : Here it is : Mites and farmer tricks link bird mites/message/10634 I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about them. I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place. We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters. As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing " recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry. If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties Summary : Borax$3.99 Mustard 2.00 skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99 pinesol $4.00 bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com baking soda $1.00 tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s paste Pretty cheap ! And they work On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 8:19 AM EST Cecilia Borg wrote:>Sorry to hear about that experience. THey tend to make you feel crazy if nothing else by not believing you and you know it´s true. I wouldn´t either talk about bugs or mites with doctors anymore, because of the way they acted when I did...>TAKE CARE!>Cecilia>>>________________________________> From: <terelynjon@...>>bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:42 PM>Subject: Re: Re: Anti-Fungals> >> >Well, the psychiatrist there prescribed me Risperdal b/c they said I was " delusional. " I heard that over and over again while there. I tried the Risperdal for 1 day and it made me feel crazy, so my mother told me to just put it under my tongue and then spit it out, which I did. We had group therapy every day, so I got to listen to everyone's elses problems -- that might have helped a little. I knew from the 1st night it was a BIG MISTAKE for me to be there -- they did not believe me at all and I decided not to mention the mite problem after that. Family did visit me every night and my brother in Ohio called Sat. night and told me to not say anything, just go with the program and get the hell out of there, which I did. It was a very frightening experience and the nurses just sit around and watch you and try to control you with drugs. Very, very sad. But I'm trying to put back what is left of my life now...>>>On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:>> >> >>Me too! I stayed only 2 nights. What did they do for you during the 5 days there? Unbelievable. One thing I learned from that experience, and my Lyme doc to be coached me by phone- had never even met me- he said whatever you do don't talk about bugs, don't even say the word- bug. Boy was he right. I never brought up the springtails I had seen on me, the psychiatrist said he would discharge me after my first meeting with him.>>>>>>Aandraya >>>>>>>>>>On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:05 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:>>>>>> >>>Thanks -- after spending 5 days in the psych unit after going to my PCP I am not ready to go to another doctor right now. They think you are delusional. >>>>>>>>>On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Elissa <elissarachel@...> wrote:>>>>>> >>>> >>>>Dismissed by my primary care dr. too. Ended up in tears with him patronizing me more...didn't see him again. Lyme doctors were great to me though! Hang in there. You just have to find the right dr.>>>>On Dec 13, 2011 8:45 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Also taking daily baths with MMS1 helps while taking internally. Use no soap with the bath just MMS. I scrubbed good with lye soap in shower, and shampooed with lye, then rinsed well and soaked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > What Dr. prescribes ... > > > *From:* " Goldstein@ " <Goldstein@> >>>>>> > > *To:* bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:03 PM>>>>>> > > *Sub... > > > **bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PM>>>>>> > > *S... >>>>>> > > *An:* " bird mites " <bird mites >>>>>>> > > *Gesendet:* 1:30 Die...> > > *To:* bird mites >>>>>> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PM>>>>>> > > *Subje... >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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