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Hi Coni,

Sugar cravings are again linked to liver in that if it is functioning at it's

peak, blood sugar is in check and the sugar cravings are pretty much non

existent. Sugar cravings is specifically why my choice of foods are what they

are and they are liver cleansing. :-) I can tell if I have wavered off the

liver cleansing foods too much by my sugar cravings. :-) If you do nothing

else, invest in a good pro-biotiotic, digestive enzymes and add Milk Thistle to

your diet. Just these few changes usually make a pretty good difference in the

sugar cravings. Also, watch your bowel function. That can also effect sugar

cravings. If you haven't had a movement by 10:00 am every day, something should

be done about that. Increase the probiotics, take a supplement to help the

bowel move more often until it can heal and work properly. Rashelle has a

product on her site that she has used for years, I have also used and works

great to help with belly fat and regulating the colon as is should be

http://www.oxygenlift.net/inc/sdetail/4127

If you aren't sure about what probiotic to get, again, Rashelle has a product on

her site that covers it and actually goes a bit beyond the probiotic.

http://www.oxygenlift.net/inc/sdetail/10463

Again,

Hope this helps,

Karma

Frustrated

> >

> >

> > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> heavier than I

> have

> > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> want to cry. I've

> > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> my 40 breaths a

> day.

> > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> where to start.

> > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> losing weight as

> it is

> > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> wondering if I

> should

> > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> out loud. And

> > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> accountable to

> myself.

> >

> > D

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you Karma, I am going to her site today and check this out. I have IBS

the kind that is diarreah, I am always willing to try new things if it is

endorsed and used by people I trust as I do you and Rashelle and the wonderful

women of this group. Thanks for sharing. Coni

Frustrated

> > >

> > >

> > > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> > heavier than I

> > have

> > > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> > want to cry. I've

> > > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> > my 40 breaths a

> > day.

> > > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> > where to start.

> > > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> > losing weight as

> > it is

> > > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> > wondering if I

> > should

> > > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> > out loud. And

> > > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> > accountable to

> > myself.

> > >

> > > D

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Karma or anyone else, I can't get into the store to order, anyone else have

this problem? Coni

Frustrated

> > >

> > >

> > > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> > heavier than I

> > have

> > > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> > want to cry. I've

> > > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> > my 40 breaths a

> > day.

> > > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> > where to start.

> > > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> > losing weight as

> > it is

> > > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> > wondering if I

> > should

> > > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> > out loud. And

> > > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> > accountable to

> > myself.

> > >

> > > D

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Coni,

With the IBS, the probiotics should help a lot. If you get the colon

flourishing with the good kind of bacteria found in the probiotics then the IBS

might take a backseat to it. Actually the ultrasimple diet site that I gave

addresses IBS specifically as I recall.

I sure hope these things help you, IBS can be so miserable I'm told.

Karma

Frustrated

> > >

> > >

> > > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> > heavier than I

> > have

> > > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> > want to cry. I've

> > > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> > my 40 breaths a

> > day.

> > > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> > where to start.

> > > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> > losing weight as

> > it is

> > > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> > wondering if I

> > should

> > > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> > out loud. And

> > > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> > accountable to

> > myself.

> > >

> > > D

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Coni,

The link worked when I sent it and I just checked it again and it pulled up. It

did take a long time to load up today for some reason. When Rashelle reads the

message she will look into the problem I'm sure. :-) She likes her customer

service to be above and beyond what anyone else out there offers. :-)

Karma

Frustrated

> > >

> > >

> > > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> > heavier than I

> > have

> > > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> > want to cry. I've

> > > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> > my 40 breaths a

> > day.

> > > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> > where to start.

> > > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> > losing weight as

> > it is

> > > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> > wondering if I

> > should

> > > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> > out loud. And

> > > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> > accountable to

> > myself.

> > >

> > > D

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks Karma, I tried again and I can get into the site but not the store.

Coni

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Due to health issues beyond my control, I'm now

> > > heavier than I

> > > have

> > > > ever been. I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I

> > > want to cry. I've

> > > > also fallen off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do

> > > my 40 breaths a

> > > day.

> > > > I just feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know

> > > where to start.

> > > > I want to be stronger, it is not so much about

> > > losing weight as

> > > it is

> > > > about feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm

> > > wondering if I

> > > should

> > > > do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking

> > > out loud. And

> > > > hopefully posting to this group will help me stay

> > > accountable to

> > > myself.

> > > >

> > > > D

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Coni and Karma, I checked it again and the link works fine. If it still

does not work for you go to www.oxygenlift.net and go to the link on the left

that says Main Store. When you get to the store scroll down to the link that

says Weight Loss, Body Slimming Products + Seaweed Soap. After you click on this

link scroll to the bottom of the page and you will find the Herbal Diet Capsules

there. They are great. I have used them for many years and I love them. They

have a lot of herbs that are loaded with B vitamins so they really help you feel

calm and relaxed which of course is good for helping you get rid of belly fat.

There is nothing in them to make you feel like you are speeding. They are the

only thing I have ever used that really curbs my appetite when I am feeling

really hungry. Be Healthy and take good care, Rashelle Harness the Powerful

Benefits of Oxygen with LifeLift. Oxygen burns fat, tones muscles, reduces

stress Be healthier with each breath you take with LifeLift www.lifelift.com

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issues beyond my control, I'm now > heavier than I > have > > ever been.

I am just plain fat. It is ugly and I > want to cry. I've > > also fallen

off the LifeLift wagon. I need to do > my 40 breaths a > day. > > I just

feel so overwhelmed, I don't even know > where to start. > > I want to be

stronger, it is not so much about > losing weight as > it is > > about

feeling strong again. At least for me. I'm > wondering if I > should > >

do more than 40 breaths a day...just me thinking > out loud. And > >

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Kristi...When you lose a lot of weight immediately after banding it is mostly water. I suspect that if you are sticking to low calories then what is happening is that your body is losing fat and gaining water back, so you are still going in the right direction.

Are you doing moderate exercise? That will help as well.BTW, welcome to bandster hell. ;o) It's the time frame between banding and restriction. With restriction this will be much easier. Keep your protein up and your carbs down. Carbs will make you hungry, protein will stop hunger from happening to begin with for the most part. The time between banding and restriction isn't really designed for weight loss, it's designed for healing. Give yourself time, it will happen.

On 8/20/07, Kristi <puffpuff60@...> wrote:

I was banded on August 3. I lost 19 pounds almost right off the bat

but have not lost an ounce in 10 days. Even one pound would make me

feel better. I am sticking to between 700-900 calories everyday, track

everything that goes in my mouth on FitDay and making sure I get at

least 60 grams of protein every day. I am struggling with a lot of

hunger since I can't have a fill yet, but forcing myself to ignore it.

I know I should be really happy that I've lost 19 pounds, but nothing

in 10 days when I am eating so little? My goal was to be below 200

before next Monday since that is when I have to go back to work (school

is starting!). Am I being unrealistic?

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Kristi, We all want to lose weight right off the bat and you've done that...Congratulations on the 19 lbs gone forever...But, remember this is not the stage for you to lose weight, your body is still healing and is probably in starvation mode since it's been given so little and it's been through a lot (surgery)...Your weight loss will really kick in gear when you get your fill...It's like a tire on your car, if the air is out of it you can still drive with it but won't get the long distance and smooth ride you would get if it had air in it...Just hang in there and it will happen for you...Don't push the panic button yet...lol...The fills are the key, as you see the band is no good with out the saline fill... Take care and good luck... Rena DOB:9/26/06 204/139/135Kristi <puffpuff60@...> wrote: I was banded on August 3. I lost 19 pounds almost right off the bat but have not lost an ounce in 10 days. Even one pound would make me feel better. I am sticking to between 700-900 calories everyday, track everything that goes in my mouth on FitDay and making sure I get at least 60 grams of protein every day. I am struggling with a lot of hunger since I can't have a fill yet, but forcing myself to ignore it. I know I should be really happy that I've lost 19 pounds, but nothing in 10 days when I am eating so little? My goal was to be below 200

before next Monday since that is when I have to go back to work (school is starting!). Am I being unrealistic?KristiDOB 8/3/07219/200/145

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Hi Milena,

Take a DEEP Breathe sweetie. Here in the USA we do not have enough Ped

Rhuemy's which put's a big strain on those we do have. So we have to look at

this situation.

What you need to do is call the place and ask for your daughter to be put

on the Canceled List. So If someone cancels they will call you and you go to

the Ped Rhuemy then. Honestly it does help to keep this going even if she is

having a good day or bad day.

I myself do not understand the Healthcare system but I do know how to get

through it. By putting your child on this list will help keep your June

appointment but if another opening is available you have the chance to go on a

earlier date.

Remember thing's happen and sometimes it can not be avoided. Take a DEEP

Breathe and call them. Umm if you go with Private you may encounter the same

situation as well. Ped Rhuemys are hard to come by.

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I'm no expert, but ascorbic acid (vitamin C) works wonders on my family. I'm

not sure about how to give it to a toddler. My youngest is 14 months and is

still nursed as well. I take the ascorbic acid religiously and I " m sure this

wonderul vitamin is reaching her through the milk. Check into it. I've bought

the powered version and put it when I drink water....

http://www.evenbetternow.com/proddetail.asp?prod=VitCCrystals

This website also contains tons of other essential supplements.

Good Luck,

~

Frustrated

Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

recap.

Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of his

2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December and

has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor. He

said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus draining

from his ear.

I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea (sp?),

Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and stays

home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

helped with some of his issues.

Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can give

him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally gotten

an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my tears,

that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't make

me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are suffering

without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally he

said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to wait

until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

and any other immune deficiencies.

Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are treatable.

If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an immune

deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it takes

to get him better.

I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

~Jerinda

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Hi Jerinda, I'm sorry to hear about your little one. I think besides

the probiotic, try 1/2 tsp high vitamin cod liver oil every day(Dr.

Ron's is what I use.) Extra daily vitamin C too would be good.

I used to suffer through ear infections as a child so I know what

your son is going through. I heard that a little breast milk in the

ear may help and I know from experience a little extra virgin coconut

oil helps too. There are stronger antibacterials like tea tree oil,

but that might sting really bad.

I would try to eliminate glutens, yeasts, and actually most grains

and all sugars for a while, since medications can bring on a candida

problem. I would also try feeding him about 3 tsps coconut oil every

day. Try not to use colloidal silver too much, I think it can become

harmful.

I give my son high vitamin foods every day, like avocados which are

loaded with vitamins, liver also has a lot of vitamin C and A

(especially chicken,) butter, eggs, fruits and veggies.

As far as pain relief goes, I don't know much about homeopathy, but I

think arnica and chamomille would be good.

Hope this helps.

Vaccinations , " Jerinda " <mikeandjerinda@...> wrote:

>

> Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

> recap.

>

> Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

> about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

> and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

> ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of

his

> 2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

> from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

> was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

> dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December

and

> has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

> several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

> started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

> weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor.

He

> said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

> the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

> now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus

draining

> from his ear.

>

> I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea

(sp?),

> Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

> medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

> practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

> treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and

stays

> home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

> helped with some of his issues.

>

> Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

> anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

> is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can

give

> him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

> child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

> Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

>

> This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally

gotten

> an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my

tears,

> that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

> with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

> off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't

make

> me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are

suffering

> without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

> told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

> pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

> kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally

he

> said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

> Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

> It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to

wait

> until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

> and any other immune deficiencies.

>

> Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

> very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

> can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are

treatable.

>

> If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

> treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an

immune

> deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

> now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it

takes

> to get him better.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

> something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

> medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

>

> ~Jerinda

>

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As far as vitamin C goes, I take ascorbic acid mixed with baking

soda, but I don't want to give the baking soda to my son and ascorbic

acid by itself is really acidic and hard to drink. I give my son

acerola powder (NOW brand) which has a real high concentration of

vit. C and it tastes good and is not so acidic.

- In Vaccinations , Janice Cole

<sjguera_126@...> wrote:

>

> I'm no expert, but ascorbic acid (vitamin C) works wonders on my

family. I'm not sure about how to give it to a toddler. My youngest

is 14 months and is still nursed as well. I take the ascorbic acid

religiously and I " m sure this wonderul vitamin is reaching her

through the milk. Check into it. I've bought the powered version

and put it when I drink water....

http://www.evenbetternow.com/proddetail.asp?prod=VitCCrystals

> This website also contains tons of other essential supplements.

>

> Good Luck,

> ~

>

> Frustrated

>

> Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

> recap.

>

> Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

> about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

> and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

> ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of

his

> 2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

> from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

> was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

> dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December

and

> has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

> several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

> started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

> weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor.

He

> said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

> the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

> now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus

draining

> from his ear.

>

> I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea

(sp?),

> Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

> medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

> practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

> treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and

stays

> home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

> helped with some of his issues.

>

> Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

> anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

> is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can

give

> him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

> child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

> Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

>

> This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally

gotten

> an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my

tears,

> that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

> with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

> off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't

make

> me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are

suffering

> without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

> told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

> pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

> kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally

he

> said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

> Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

> It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to

wait

> until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

> and any other immune deficiencies.

>

> Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

> very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

> can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are

treatable.

>

> If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

> treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an

immune

> deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

> now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it

takes

> to get him better.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

> something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

> medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

>

> ~Jerinda

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

We all take ascorbic acid with 1 ounce of orange juice. It just makes the

juice have a little pucker power. I know friends who give it to their kids

with apple juice and they don’t even notice.

When are sick you should really up the does of it. My 3 year old has been

taking it along with her other supplements since she was 18 months. Started

out with 1/8 tsp when she was healthy and then if she had any other symptoms

(tired, more clingy, more grumpy, sneezing, coughing, anything) then we

upped the dose to at least ¾ tsp. But given in 1/8 tsp increments. If he is

really sick then putting it into apple sauce works well.

I also up her probiotic amount to at least double the amount. Jarrowdolphis

is considered the best OTC brand and I started my kids on it when they were

18 months. We now use Klaires brand but we can only get it through our

holistic PD.

Good luck,

le

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From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Vida Khan

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:52 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Frustrated

As far as vitamin C goes, I take ascorbic acid mixed with baking

soda, but I don't want to give the baking soda to my son and ascorbic

acid by itself is really acidic and hard to drink. I give my son

acerola powder (NOW brand) which has a real high concentration of

vit. C and it tastes good and is not so acidic.

- In Vaccinations@ <mailto:Vaccinations%40> ,

Janice Cole

<sjguera_126@...> wrote:

>

> I'm no expert, but ascorbic acid (vitamin C) works wonders on my

family. I'm not sure about how to give it to a toddler. My youngest

is 14 months and is still nursed as well. I take the ascorbic acid

religiously and I " m sure this wonderul vitamin is reaching her

through the milk. Check into it. I've bought the powered version

and put it when I drink water....

http://www.evenbett

<http://www.evenbetternow.com/proddetail.asp?prod=VitCCrystals>

ernow.com/proddetail.asp?prod=VitCCrystals

> This website also contains tons of other essential supplements.

>

> Good Luck,

> ~

>

> Frustrated

>

> Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

> recap.

>

> Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

> about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

> and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

> ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of

his

> 2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

> from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

> was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

> dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December

and

> has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

> several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

> started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

> weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor.

He

> said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

> the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

> now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus

draining

> from his ear.

>

> I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea

(sp?),

> Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

> medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

> practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

> treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and

stays

> home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

> helped with some of his issues.

>

> Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

> anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

> is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can

give

> him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

> child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

> Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

>

> This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally

gotten

> an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my

tears,

> that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

> with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

> off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't

make

> me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are

suffering

> without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

> told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

> pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

> kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally

he

> said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

> Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

> It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to

wait

> until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

> and any other immune deficiencies.

>

> Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

> very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

> can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are

treatable.

>

> If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

> treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an

immune

> deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

> now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it

takes

> to get him better.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

> something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

> medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

>

> ~Jerinda

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi, Jerinda. I have to disagree with your doctor about this being normal. He's

confusing it with it being common. There's a difference. That said, there is a

light at the end of the tunnel. You can build up your son's immune system and he

can get over this. I've been there.

Here's what I would do (and have): a great natural antibiotic that I give my

family is Larix. You can get it in a powdered form that easily mixes into juice.

I mix it in Emergen-C, which is a powdered Vit. C that you add water, too. Some

kids don't like the fizziness so another way to give Vit. C is a liquid form.

Twin Labs makes one that my kids always would take.

Another supplement I give is quercetin. It comes in capsules which obviously

your son can't swallow yet so you can mix it in applesauce or in mushed bananas.

Some brands are too bitter because they have Vit. C in them. My son will

tolerate Solgar quercetin. My naturopath has it without the C so it is made--I

just can't find it in the stores. Quercetin is excellent for allergies, and

chest colds--fights inflammation.

For homeopathy, you could try belladonna or pulsatilla. If you have to choose

between Tylenol and Advil, I'd go with the Advil because it reduces pain by

reducing inflammation. Tylenol does not. But I don't recommend either over

homeopathy.

Keep the faith--this will pass.

Winnie

Frustrated

Vaccinations

> Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

> recap.

>

> Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in

> May,

> about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until

> then

> and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he

> got 5

> ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day

> of his

> 2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully

> recovered

> from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something

> (never

> was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

> dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of

> December and

> has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

> several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well.

> He

> started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through

> the

> weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the

> doctor. He

> said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax

> (for

> the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax,

> he

> now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus

> draining

> from his ear.

>

> I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea

> (sp?),

> Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in

> energy

> medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

> practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

> treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and

> stays

> home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

> helped with some of his issues.

>

> Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

> anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old

> that

> is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can

> give

> him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating

> this

> child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

> Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

>

> This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally

> gotten

> an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my

> tears,

> that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is

> wrong

> with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other

> babies

> off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't

> make

> me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are

> suffering

> without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal.

> I

> told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find

> a

> pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with

> my

> kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother?

> Finally he

> said that there is a common immune disorder called Common

> Variable

> Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have

> it.

> It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to

> wait

> until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for

> it

> and any other immune deficiencies.

>

> Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I

> very,

> very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something

> we

> can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are treatable.

>

> If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

> treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an

> immune

> deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full

> year

> now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it

> takes

> to get him better.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

> something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer

> and

> medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

>

> ~Jerinda

>

>

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Och, poor you. And poor Quinn. I have known people to have amazing, just

amazing, success for ear infections by taking the little person to a chiro

that does children. Chronic infections stopping forever after two weeks of

draining, that kind of thing. This may help his whole head drain fully

and properly, which is does not sound like it is doing. If the mucus hangs

around, bad things happen that might not if the mucus were not available to

incubate, KWIM?

This sounds allergy based to me, in that it seems he is never truly well

because something is assaulting his system all the time. Not illness, that

comes because the assault leaves him ready to be really sick again. Rather

than the CS and Echinacea, which are beneficial but still need to be

processed by the system and his little systems seems to have more than it

needs already, I might seek out an allergist.

I used Hylands and a Bach thing, oh what is it? Arrgh. It's a name, rather

than naming what's in it (Not " Jasmine " , for example, but " Mystery Medicine "

or something.). I had a brain once, really. I'll send it to you when I

think of it.

Maeghan

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Behalf Of Jerinda

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:24 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Frustrated

Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

recap.

Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of his

2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December and

has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor. He

said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus draining

from his ear.

I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea (sp?),

Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and stays

home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

helped with some of his issues.

Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can give

him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally gotten

an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my tears,

that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't make

me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are suffering

without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally he

said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to wait

until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

and any other immune deficiencies.

Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are treatable.

If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an immune

deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it takes

to get him better.

I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

~Jerinda

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Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)/citricidal produces excellent results

stopping infections such as ear aches in children....

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/benefits-of-grapefruit-seed-extract.htm

" Grapefruit seed extracts main advantage is it's extraordinary ability

to perform both (internally and externally) against a wide variety of

known or unknown infections caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi and

parasites. "

Then for the home page for all benefits and uses....

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/health.htm

I swear by GSE, I even gave it to my dog when he was sick with Kennel

cough this winter, he gets three drops everyday in his water bowl.

I put my kids in a bath, twenty drops keeps the kids wicked healthy.

I would recommend every household have this on hand, I use it for

everything. I'm sorry you and Quinn have to go through this, it's

hard watching your child in pain. Best to the two of you.

Kris

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Hi

You might want to go to your health food store and order a book written by

and Patrica Bragg. You need to learn what causes sickness in the first

place

and how to detox the body. And most importantly why drugs should never be

put into a human body of any age, as they are all classified as poisons.

Good luck

Jim

Frustrated

Since most of you don't know my son's history, I'll give a brief

recap.

Quinn is now 14 months old. He got his first ear infection in May,

about 2 weeks after his 4 month shots. He was up to date until then

and hasn't received a vaccination since. Long story short, he got 5

ear infections in 5 months and got tubes on Halloween. The day of his

2 week tube check up, he got croup. He wasn't even fully recovered

from the croup when he got the flu or pneumonia or something (never

was diagnosed for sure) and ended up hospitalized for 2 days for

dehydration. He got out of the hospital the beginning of December and

has had a sinus infection, mild ear infection, ear infection and

several colds since. He has been sick more than he's been well. He

started running a fever last Friday night that lasted through the

weekend. On Tuesday, I finally gave in and took him to the doctor. He

said he had a bacterial infection and prescribed him Zithromax (for

the 4th time in his short life). After 2 doses of the Zithromax, he

now has an ear infection. I know he does because of the pus draining

from his ear.

I use several " alternatives " to medicine, including Echinachea (sp?),

Probiotics, and Colloidal Silver and am getting involved in energy

medicine to help alleviate some of these issues. We have a NAET

practioner as well, but we can't push forward with our NAET

treatments until he's well again. Quinn is solely breastfed and stays

home with me. He doesn't get any dairy at all, and that's really

helped with some of his issues.

Here is my first question, besides Colloidal Silver, is there

anything that I can use besides antibiotics for a 14 month old that

is safe and effective? Also, is there any pain relief that I can give

him besides Tylenol or Ibuprofen? I am sooo sick of medicating this

child, but I cannot watch him suffer. If it's a choice between

Tylenol or suffering, I choose Tylenol.

This week at the doctor, I did have a fit and may have finally gotten

an answer about his constant sickness. I told him, through my tears,

that I don't feel that this is normal and that something is wrong

with him. He disagreed and said that he could name 10 other babies

off the top of his head that are sick a lot. I said that didn't make

me feel better, but worse for the moms and babies that are suffering

without answers, just like we are. He still said it was normal. I

told him that if he wouldn't listen to me, I would have to find a

pediatrician who did. I like him a lot and think he's great with my

kids, but what good is he if he won't listen to a mother? Finally he

said that there is a common immune disorder called Common Variable

Immunodeficiency that, judging by Quinn's symptoms, he may have it.

It's a matter of a simple bloodtest to diagnose, but we have to wait

until he's well to do it. So, we go back in a month to test for it

and any other immune deficiencies.

Not that I want something to be wrong with my son, because I very,

very much don't, but I am happy to know that there is something we

can test for and many of the milder immune deficiencies are treatable.

If anyone knows anything about immune deficiencies and natural

treatments, that would be great too. I have no doubt he has an immune

deficiency, how could he not? He's been sick for almost a full year

now. I feel just awful for my poor baby and will do whatever it takes

to get him better.

I'm sorry this is so long, but I figure someone here may know

something that I don't. I just can't keep watching him suffer and

medicating to make it better. Thank you for your replies.

~Jerinda

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Jerinda,

I hope you will never again vaccinate your baby, it could be that one vaccine

causing all

this trouble. i can only recommend that you nourish well, and try contacting a

classical

homeopath that will start the cure, if you want a link to a good one, email me;

gerald.marica@...

Marica.

> Hi

> You might want to go to your health food store and order a book written by

> and Patrica Bragg. You need to learn what causes sickness in the first

place

> and how to detox the body. And most importantly why drugs should never be

> put into a human body of any age, as they are all classified as poisons.

> Good luck

> Jim

>

>

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Hi Kris,

I was wondering why you put the drops in your kids baths? Is that the only

way to give it to them?

Thank You, Rina

sisterkris2003 <sisterkris2003@...> wrote:

Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)/citricidal produces excellent results

stopping infections such as ear aches in children....

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/benefits-of-grapefruit-seed-extract.htm

" Grapefruit seed extracts main advantage is it's extraordinary ability

to perform both (internally and externally) against a wide variety of

known or unknown infections caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi and

parasites. "

Then for the home page for all benefits and uses....

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/health.htm

I swear by GSE, I even gave it to my dog when he was sick with Kennel

cough this winter, he gets three drops everyday in his water bowl.

I put my kids in a bath, twenty drops keeps the kids wicked healthy.

I would recommend every household have this on hand, I use it for

everything. I'm sorry you and Quinn have to go through this, it's

hard watching your child in pain. Best to the two of you.

Kris

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Hi Rena,

Well, I've found that GSE is difficult to administer to my children,

it tastes terrible to them, even mixed with fruit juice...they sense

the taste and reject it. Since the skin is our largest organ,

whatever we put on our skin absorbs into the body-right? When the

kids are in the bath, their pores are open, so it becomes quite easy

to administer this way. It's always my first defense when there's a

cold in the house. I let them soak as long as they want with about

30-40 drops of GSE, then before they get out I rub them down with

coconut oil to seal in the GSE, but more importantly, to protect them

from other harmful toxins (ie., bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc) that

may overload their immune systems while their bodies are trying to

combat the illness. It works for diaper rash for babies in the

bathtub too, or when I was potty training and the kids didn't wipe as

well as they should, sometimes a little rash will form and a good

soaking will heal this very quickly. It's my cure-all!!!

Peace,

Kris

>

> Hi Kris,

> I was wondering why you put the drops in your kids baths? Is

that the only way to give it to them?

>

> Thank You, Rina

>

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My local health food store has it, I find that most do.

If not you can find it here:

http://store.nutribiotic.com/pgi-customlistproducts?Grapefruit%20Seed%20Extract%\

20Liquid%20Concentrate,2,157,=,gse

there are many different manufacturers, Liquid Gold here:

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/

and from price grabber:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search.php?form_keyword=GSE & topcat_id=16 & st=query

>

> where do you buy it?

>

>

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I am so sorry to hear that he is not feeling any better. We have been going through this with Abi for 5 months. I know that it seems like it will never end and it will feel that way for a while. I know how frustrated u are and just know that things will eventually look up. Abi went through motrin, naprosyn, mobic back to motrin. Now she is on motrin, mtx and we just started prednisone. Her joints are still swollen, warm and tender to touch. Just know that there are people here that have been through this and will be here for u to vent to. Trust me we all need that. Abi 3 systemickjviers3 <jlviers@...> wrote: Hi again, my name is and my 4 yr old, , was just diagnosed 2 weeks ago. He has had symptoms for nearly 2 years. Well it seems that the naprosyn is not working very well. His knees and his right ankle were really swollen and painful this weekend. He also fell asleep very early 6:30 pm and slept to nearly 11 am every day. It just seems that since we got the diagnosis he is getting worse. I was so hopeful that being on medication would help him to feel better. The ped rheumy said that we have to wait at least 6 weeks on the naprosyn before they will try anything else. This is so frustrating.

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Hi ette, What state do you live in? I live in Missouri & SS sent me to there DR's,right away. I was unable to get my disability until I was denied x 2. I know how you feel, people think just because you don't look sick you aren't sick our in pain. I learned to let it go & let GOD take it. But in the beginning all the tests & medication changes trying to get things right it was really tough to take comments from my family. We don't have to explain anything to anyone. No one will ever understand until they walk in your shoes. I wish you the best hon.From my heart to yours,

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