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Hi Tina,

Good for you for continuing on the program! You are doing a great job! I know

it's hard, but you will find your way with the program and soon it will become

second nature to you.

When you eat these healing foods, like beef, your body says to itself: " Oh good,

I have some nutrients, I will use them to heal myself a little more. " So it

will increase your pulse and open up your blood vessels in order to detoxify.

It will also push toxins out of your tissues and this is what is causing to you

to feel so itchy and agitated and overly sensitive.

You are likely not having the same reactions when you only eat coconut oil as

when you eat it with food because your body also requires the nutrients from

foods in order to start the healing process. As Bee always say, all nutrients

work together to heal the body.

You shouldn't cut beef entirely out of your diet because of these reactions.

Instead, you need to introduce it slowly, just like you are doing with the

vitamins and the coconut oil.

I hope that helps to explain in what is going on in your body.

Have a great trip!

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> Hi Bee, I thought I'd lay low awhile and try to figure this out without

bugging you.

> So My first attempt, I got so far as introducing the cal citrate, mag citrate,

vit c crystals - all of these burned caused worse reflux etc.

> But, I have found a way to fix it, simply by adding much smaller amounts to my

water, which I drink about 5x a day, and mostly with food, so i'm not getting

the full dose yet, but much more than before w/o problems!

>

> I had to stop the evco b/c I started with this alone and within a few days I

was up to 3-4 tbsp. Then All hell broke loose after about almost a week, I had

started getting very picky burning insane itches under my skin all over my body

(intolerable) every time I'd eat! Not so much when I'd take the evco, but oddly

when I eat.

> (can you explain why?)

> But before all these reactions happened, I did have a fantastic 3-4 day window

where I was feeling great and tolerating my foods.

<snip>

>

> Can you explain to me what you think is happening? This happened to me before

with many foods, such as chicken and pork before I found your program, and I'd

get to the point that the reaction happens every time I eat them, so I end up

losing food choices and that's when I get scared. I mean, chicken, beef and

pork are what every supermarket sells, and although I can have some other foods,

this was a huge staple in my diet.

>

> Please help me to understand if it's detox reactions, why it happens

repeatedly with certain foods and feels like allergy, and also, why I get my

reactions only when I eat!? I need hope and encouragement!

> Thanks so much,

> Tina

>

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Thanks ,

My concern is that I had one bite of only beef and it set my body into this

'nuts' feeling mode.

I had had all my evco and supplements as usual. And I do take all my

supplements only when I eat, it's just I had only had beef and felt fine before

that bite. I ate more and it just intensified. I took my vits, the ones that I

have introduced at this point.

I just don't get why this crazy 'allergic' feeling inside is now happening to

just the beef.

Seems when I'm on the evco, after about 1 week (done this twice now in past

month) I start to get ultra sensitive to eating, and this beef reaction is a bad

one b/c I really like to eat it and have it only about every 3- 4 days, as I do

rotate my foods around anyway.

So for example, if I cook a duck, I eat that all day but won't make another one

for 4 days.

It is the most insane reactions I am getting to random foods, and sometimes I

can re-introduce them but sometimes this hellish reaction which is intolerable

lasts for hours.

Way before bee's program, this had been happening to me, when i'd eat, and it

happened to only a few foods, and rarely, building up more and more over the

past 1.5 yrs, to now being very unpredictable. but sometimes always happening

with certain foods. I had it 'calmed' a bit since stopping fruit, (my only

'bad' food I was eating) but stopped since starting bee's program about 4 weeks

ago anyway.

Thanks so much for input, never seem to find anyone with my intense bizarre

symptoms in the whole body/under skin/in nerves like this from just eating. I

can't wait to see big lights at the end of the tunnel!

by the way " itchy agitated and overly sensitive " as you put it is pretty close -

times it by 10 and maybe that's it exactly when I eat, plus burning!

Tina

>

> Hi Tina,

>

> Good for you for continuing on the program! You are doing a great job! I

know it's hard, but you will find your way with the program and soon it will

become second nature to you.

>

> When you eat these healing foods, like beef, your body says to itself: " Oh

good, I have some nutrients, I will use them to heal myself a little more. " So

it will increase your pulse and open up your blood vessels in order to detoxify.

It will also push toxins out of your tissues and this is what is causing to you

to feel so itchy and agitated and overly sensitive.

>

> > So My first attempt, I got so far as introducing the cal citrate, mag

citrate, vit c crystals - all of these burned caused worse reflux etc.

> > But, I have found a way to fix it, simply by adding much smaller amounts to

my water, which I drink about 5x a day, and mostly with food, so i'm not getting

the full dose yet, but much more than before w/o problems!

> >

> > I had to stop the evco b/c I started with this alone and within a few days I

was up to 3-4 tbsp. Then All hell broke loose after about almost a week, I had

started getting very picky burning insane itches under my skin all over my body

(intolerable) every time I'd eat! Not so much when I'd take the evco, but oddly

when I eat.

> > (can you explain why?)

> > But before all these reactions happened, I did have a fantastic 3-4 day

window where I was feeling great and tolerating my foods.

> <snip>

> >

> > Can you explain to me what you think is happening? This happened to me

before with many foods, such as chicken and pork before I found your program,

and I'd get to the point that the reaction happens every time I eat them, so I

end up losing food choices and that's when I get scared. I mean, chicken, beef

and pork are what every supermarket sells, and although I can have some other

foods, this was a huge staple in my diet.

> >

> > Please help me to understand if it's detox reactions, why it happens

repeatedly with certain foods and feels like allergy, and also, why I get my

reactions only when I eat!? I need hope and encouragement!

> > Thanks so much,

> > Tina

> >

>

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> Hi Bee, I thought I'd lay low awhile and try to figure this out without

bugging you.

> So My first attempt, I got so far as introducing the cal citrate, mag citrate,

vit c crystals - all of these burned caused worse reflux etc.

> But, I have found a way to fix it, simply by adding much smaller amounts to my

water, which I drink about 5x a day, and mostly with food, so i'm not getting

the full dose yet, but much more than before w/o problems!

+++Hi Tina. That's good you found a solution that helps. Hopefully you always

take supplements with meals. However, it is much easier to take vitamin C in

capsules or tablets than to take vitamin C crystals.

>

> I had to stop the evco b/c I started with this alone and within a few days I

was up to 3-4 tbsp. Then All hell broke loose after about almost a week, I had

started getting very picky burning insane itches under my skin all over my body

(intolerable) every time I'd eat! Not so much when I'd take the evco, but oddly

when I eat.

> (can you explain why?)

+++You increased it way too fast. You start with 1 teaspoon 3 times a day with

meals and only increase it every 5-7 days, depending upon how severe your

healing reactions area. Extra Virgin Coconut Oil is so beneficial it helps your

body heal and detoxify itself creating more symptoms. When your body detoxifies

it creates histamine which makes your skin itchy as this article explains:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat14.php

> But before all these reactions happened, I did have a fantastic 3-4 day window

where I was feeling great and tolerating my foods. Then I got struck by a sudden

bad cold and got over it pretty quickly though, sore throat chest phlegm etc.

+++As your body gets stronger it becomes " more able " to heal and detoxify itself

so that's why you got more symptoms. A cold, sore throat and chest congestion

are created by your body in order to get rid of toxins.

>

> So I had to stop all for a few days and things did settle down. I was able to

feel almost normal again, and I restarted.

> I first began with the cal/mag/vitc in my water, then next day or so added in

evco but only 1/8 tsp day 1, then 1/8 tsp 2x on days 2-4, then 1/8 tsp 3x for

next 2-3 days. I had been feeling great again and eating well.

>

> Then yesterday I had all the same but 2nd dose of evco I went up to 1/4 tsp.

I was feeling like I was getting sick/sore throat again! But it passed after a

few hours. I had felt so good in past week, that I planned a spontaneous trip

to orlando for my daughter feeling like I could handle it.

+++Tina, you cannot avoid healing and detoxifying reactions, so sometimes you

need to just get through them, but maybe you increased to 1/4 teaspoon too fast.

There is no race to get up to 5.5 tablespoons of coconut oil per day, so take

your time.

>

> Last night I was prepareing all kinds of foods, and I put one bite of beef in

my mouth. Normally this had been my safest meat, meaning fills me well and I

don't react. WELL, immediately I got a stingy itchy sort of feeling followed by

rushes and almost anxiety (not anxiety really but rushes that felt that way) I

got feeling very antsy all over and that hellish searing itch UNDER my skin all

over started along with burning skin on my ears, neck, face - just a horrble

sensation all over, my old sytmptoms, plus felt very agitated, weak, a pin drop

or any noise makes me jump out of my skin, and this went on all night. I had a

hot shower before bed to 'bring out' the acidic searing inside which relieves a

bit, and prayed for sleep. when I woke in middle of the night to pee, I was

soaked from head to toe profusely sweating, which I don't normally. this

morning I still feel agitated, sort of itchy or rashy under my skin, and shaken.

I have to fly to orlando now in less than 24 hrs.. and I feel like my safest

food of limited foods, is not a choice to eat anymore.

+++Was the beef organic, and untreated by salt or nitrates and non-irradiated?

>

> I looked back in my journal and the last time I ate the beef, I got some of

this reaction, not as severe but did.

>

> Can you explain to me what you think is happening? This happened to me before

with many foods, such as chicken and pork before I found your program, and I'd

get to the point that the reaction happens every time I eat them, so I end up

losing food choices and that's when I get scared. I mean, chicken, beef and

pork are what every supermarket sells, and although I can have some other foods,

this was a huge staple in my diet.

+++You need to ensure your meats are not treated, so it would be important to

buy organic or certified organic meats.

>

+++Maybe you need to get a consultation with me - see this page:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/consult.php

Bee

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> Hi Bee, I thought I'd lay low awhile and try to figure this out without

bugging you.

> So My first attempt, I got so far as introducing the cal citrate, mag citrate,

vit c crystals - all of these burned caused worse reflux etc.

> But, I have found a way to fix it, simply by adding much smaller amounts to my

water, which I drink about 5x a day, and mostly with food, so i'm not getting

the full dose yet, but much more than before w/o problems!

+++Hi Tina. Are you taking the cal/mag in water too? If you are, they will

settle to the bottom of the liquid so you'd have to dig them out with a spoon to

ensure you are getting all of them.

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Yes in water, but Iswish it/

also, the liquid stools AND severe reflux burn mellowed too by sticking with

it/.

Today oddly I got the crazy searing body symptoms from just the cal/mag/vitc

water but did not have any adverse effect this morning. So weird.

Also, had a very strongnausea, gurgling and diarrhea upset gut after pumpkin

seeds. Now I read this can happen, but I used to tolerate them years ago. Now

just barfy and diarrhea for couple hours/. I know it can be used as a

vermifuge, what is your takeon this Bee? They were raw pumpkin seeds, from

whole foods. I am in Orlando now, made the trip out here today!

Thanks,

Tina

>

> +++Hi Tina. Are you taking the cal/mag in water too? If you are, they will

settle to the bottom of the liquid so you'd have to dig them out with a spoon to

ensure you are getting all of them.

>

> Bee

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> Yes in water, but Iswish it/

> also, the liquid stools AND severe reflux burn mellowed too by sticking with

it/.

> Today oddly I got the crazy searing body symptoms from just the cal/mag/vitc

water but did not have any adverse effect this morning. So weird.

> Also, had a very strongnausea, gurgling and diarrhea upset gut after pumpkin

seeds. Now I read this can happen, but I used to tolerate them years ago. Now

just barfy and diarrhea for couple hours/. I know it can be used as a

vermifuge, what is your takeon this Bee? They were raw pumpkin seeds, from

whole foods. I am in Orlando now, made the trip out here today!

+++Hi Tina,

That's great you are having less liquid stools and reflux burning. I hope your

enjoy your trip to Orlando.

Pumpkin seeds are not included on this program which is explained in the

articles you would have read, and also see the food list:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foodslist.php

Most people would not know what vermifuge means, so when you use a word like

that please give the definition of it and explain it.

A vermifuge is a drug or substance in foods, herbs or spices that " supposedly "

expel worms or other animal parasites from the intestines.

I wrote " supposedly " because vermifuge is another word made up by the medical

industry to justify using drugs to expel worms and parasites which is not

possible to do anyway. That is because your own body creates bugs, fungus,

worms, parasites, etc. in order to clean up toxins. How can anything get rid of

them, kill them, or expel them when your body is creating them for a purpose?

This is why you cannot get rid of any bugs, parasites, fungus/candida & cancer

by " killing them off " or by " trying to get rid of them. " It just doesn't work

that way. They can only be cured by getting healthy, which is done by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (Bee's diet plus supplements which provides all

of the nutrients any Human needs in order to be healthy).

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer).

3) Eliminating damaging foods.

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When you are healthy enough your body automatically " changes " candida (or any

bug, parasite, cancer, etc.) back into the organism it is supposed to be when

the body is healthy.

It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the

poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing

off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means getting

healthy according to Nature's Laws on Health.

Bee

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