Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I make a brine with Himalayan Sea Salt Crystals. Take a tsp in water every morning. It has help adrenals. Has so many minerals that my nails are growing none stop. Sodium Chloride is bad for you, aka table salt. Sea salt in moderation is good for you. Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 This is great news Kooky. Hope other people will get on board. It's good for so many things. Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 > I could have caused harm in another direction by > flushing out my minerals - but I am confused a bit - would it be ok to > have celtic sea salt in it - or does that have in it the harmful NAcl??? You know, some people find sea salt (and even table salt) quite beneficial for their symptoms -- especially people with poorly functioning adrenals. So I'm not convinced that sea salt is all that bad for you. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi Marc, Sea salt is a combination of all minerals but mainly NaCl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_salt If you're very low on Sodium (Na), NaCl may help you. But eating food with organic Sodium would be so much better. And if your blood pressure is low, well NaCl may be a good thing in the short run. But in the end NaCl is toxic. It is proven that it opens the tight junctions... http://erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/full/20/6/1444 I'm copy/pasting interesting text here on this subject... http://timberwave.com/sodium.html Humans cannot do what plants can do. You can't go in your backyard, get a spoon full of soil,dirt. and eat that soil and absorb the minerals from the soil. The sodium in your salt shaker is inorganic,(dead) sodium. The minerals in your mineral water are inorganic, unavailable, useless.... Minerals are very important. It is believed to be instrumental in the healthy function of the human body. The electrical effects or electrolytes which they impart as they pass through the body enable us to move, work,and think. Some of these minerals impart the quality of hardness, such as calcium, phosphorus. Others impart the qualities of softness, flexibility, and activity and the one mineral most capable of doing this is sodium. Sodium helps us to have elasticity, limberness, and youthfulness in our tissues, It is necessary to maintain normal chemical balance not only to the walls of the stomach, but also the walls of the intestine. It is necessary to regulation of the fluid content and to normal flora in the intestinal tract, an is necessary to good bowel function. Sodium greatly affects the fluid balance throughout the body. Sodium works side by side with potassium. Sodium being extra-cellular and potassium being intra-cellular. It is unfortunate, therefore, that everyday modern living habits impose such a drain upon our reserve. We are surrounded by the influences of today's world of industry and progress: We have electrical lighting that encourages overwork Radio and television , that cause tension, computers that call for close concentration and extra eye strain, etc. Besides all these causes of stress, most people are the victims of devitalized foods which are acid producing and therefore require alkaline mineral elements to neutralize them. The waste acids produced in the body are irritating to the tissues and interfere with proper functioning that the digestive juices may no longer have proper consistency, and the acid-alkaline balance may be disturbed. The alkaline mineral most heavily drawn upon to neutralize these acids is sodium. Reserve supplies of sodium are stored in various organs of the body but mainly in the walls of the stomach. This makes the tissues of the stomach highly alkaline, as they should be to withstand the presence of the hydrochloric acid normally in the stomach. If it were not for the presence of sodium the stomach walls would be destroyed by the hydrochloric acid produced in these tissues. When there is tissue destruction in parts of the walls, we call the resulting sores ulcers. They can occur when sodium has been drained from the tissues of the stomach for other purposes in the body. Whenever acids are produced any place in the body through mental strain, physical strain, eye strain, etc., sodium is withdrawn from the stomach to neutralize them. This leaves an acid stomach wall. With this disturbance of balance, the stomach wall cannot properly secrete hydrochloric acid, so digestion becomes impaired. If we overdraw on the sodium reserve in the stomach, the organ with the next highest concentration of sodium will begin to suffer lack because the blood, in attempting to maintain chemical balance, will borrow it. Those tissues whose sodium-storing capacity is next highest to that of the stomach are the joint structures of the body. When sodium is withdrawn from the joints, a serious imbalance is created: calcium is left behind. Now calcium, with its quality of harshness, can make tissues immobile: the joints may become rigid unless there is sufficient sodium present to keep the calcium in solution. Such disorders as neuritis, neuralgia, rheumatism, and arthritis follow. Once sodium becomes depleted to a certain point your body will use its large calcium reserves, to neutralize the bodies acids. Once calcium becomes depleted to a certain point your liver will manufacture its own ammonia, which can reach 14 on the pH scale, to neutralize acid ash residue. Your body will continue to function pulling more and more of these alkaline minerals from your cells in order to neutralize the bodies metabolic acids and acid ash residue from the acid ash food and metabolic acid you produce. This compounds health problems of the smallest kind which can develop into more serious health problems. As your cell pH becomes lower and lower, Your bodies ability to carry oxygen will be diminished, thus in turn inviting illness to come in. Many doctors merely say that waste acids are responsible for such conditions, but actually these acids would not be present if there was an adequate sodium reserve to neutralize them. In attempts to neutralize excess acids and gas formations, many persons make the mistake of taking baking soda. The sodium in this compound is inorganic, it cannot be used by the body, it acts as an irritant, and can neutralize only with the acid with which it is immediately in contact. Some persons expect table salt or sodium chloride to aid in the production of hydrochloric acid in the stomach, but this also is an irritant and cannot be used for correction and repair of body tissue. Instead of using alkalizers and drugs, we should turn to natural food alkalizers such as are present in vegetable juices, ripe fruits, etc. When we are confronted with lack of sodium in the body, we should replenish the supply by using natural foods that are high in sodium content. Raw goat milk is one of the foods highest in sodium and it is easily assimilated. It seems to be very beneficial in cases of stomach ulcer and in rheumatic and arthritic conditions. Another sodium food which we have used a great deal in both office and sanitarium practice is Whey. This also is a natural food for acidophilus bacteria in the intestine. Another excellent source of sodium is veal joint broth, which is made by cooking out the gelatin from a veal joint with no meat on it. Plants that are matured in the sunshine are high in sodium. The acids in green fruits are sour, but when allowed to mature the sodium content gives them their sweet taste. Citrus fruits, when tree ripened, are high in sodium, but so many of them are picked green and expected to ripen in storage that eating them may cause disturbance -- especially in a stomach deficient in sodium. Unripe fruit never sets well in the human stomach. Cabbage juice and strawberry juice are good sources of sodium, as is celery stalk. Okra is one of our highest sodium-containing foods, is very soothing to the stomach wall, and therefore excellent for cases of ulcer. We should aim to prevent the formation of excess waste acids in the body so that we need not bankrupt the organs in which sodium is stored, such as the stomach and joints. We should constantly replenish the supply be eating natural food that are high in sodium. We will thus have better digestion, assimilation, and elimination, and prevent disorders such as arthritis, rheumatism, neuritis and neuralgia. The very things we would use in the prevention of these symptoms can also be used for their correction. That which will prevent a disease in many cases will cure it. > > > I could have caused harm in another direction by > > flushing out my minerals - but I am confused a bit - would it be ok to > > have celtic sea salt in it - or does that have in it the harmful NAcl??? > > You know, some people find sea salt (and even table salt) quite beneficial > for their symptoms -- especially people with poorly functioning adrenals. > So I'm not convinced that sea salt is all that bad for you. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 The key things to look out for in salt, is selecting a highly mineralised, fresh,unrefined, sun-dried sea salt. The sun-dried aspect is worth bearing in mind – most sea salts are heat treated at high temperatures, and when this happens the mineral content and quality of the salt will be compromised. Here’s a good article on salt: http://www.theecologist.org/green_green_living/health_and_beauty/270993/what_typ\ e_of_salt_is_best.html There’s a few good salts around that are worth checking out: http://nelsonhealthcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=23 <http://nelsonhealthcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=23 & products_id=96 & osCsid=1\ f91eb3289199b737529642e6380bf56> & products_id=96 & osCsid=1f91eb3289199b737529642e6380bf56 http://www.synergy-health.co.uk/supplements/celtic_sea_salt.html From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc Sent: 02 June 2010 19:32 Subject: Re: salt > I could have caused harm in another direction by > flushing out my minerals - but I am confused a bit - would it be ok to > have celtic sea salt in it - or does that have in it the harmful NAcl??? You know, some people find sea salt (and even table salt) quite beneficial for their symptoms -- especially people with poorly functioning adrenals. So I'm not convinced that sea salt is all that bad for you. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and saw immediate improvement, specially, in heart going into spasms, now, none ... Kooky From: e4health@... <e4health@...> Subject: Re: salt Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 4:19 PM  I make a brine with Himalayan Sea Salt Crystals. Take a tsp in water every morning. It has help adrenals. Has so many minerals that my nails are growing none stop. Sodium Chloride is bad for you, aka table salt. Sea salt in moderation is good for you. Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 > Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and > saw immediate improvement, specially, > in heart going into spasms, now, none ... Yes, and you'll notice that was just complaining about his heart skipping a beat. Perhaps some salt is needed. :-) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 If you feel better with inorganic minerals it's because you're low on minerals. And in the short run that may be better than taking nothing at all. But everybody would be much better with taking organic minerals instead... gr, . > > > Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and > > saw immediate improvement, specially, > > in heart going into spasms, now, none ... > > Yes, and you'll notice that was just complaining > about his heart skipping a beat. Perhaps some salt is > needed. :-) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I think those that are better with Himalayan/sea salt, must be low in Sodium or Chloride, because Himalayn/sea salt is mainly NaCl... Last year I had problems with my knees, if I took water with Himalayan salt, it was better for my knees. Now I've realized I'm low on Sodium and since eating more organic Sodium (carrots, celery,...) my knee problems are almost gone... Sodium is one of the most important minerals and like I had with my knees a lot of other people may be better with taking salt in the short run... but in the long run NaCl is no good. Taking organic stuff may take a bit longer to have an effect you notice but it's the best choice in the long run. By the way, Marc, my heart may have missed a beat!, but I've never noticed that myself or written this here, maybe you're confusing with sb or sth else... I did write here that when attacked with emf I do get pain in my " heart zone " ... . > > > Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and > > saw immediate improvement, specially, > > in heart going into spasms, now, none ... > > Yes, and you'll notice that was just complaining > about his heart skipping a beat. Perhaps some salt is > needed. :-) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Below a list of the % of the minerals in Celtic sea salt advised... The Celtic sea water is for 94% NaCl. And very low on other minerals? If you take 1 teaspoon of sea salt (4 grams) with your water each day (which is a lot probably) you have less than 0.0004 mg which is 0.003% of your daily requirement of Zinc (12-15 mg). I've checked this also for other minerals and I had the best score for Magnesium, 1 teaspoon should have (only) 4% of your daily requirement. It seems that sea water as a food additive is only good for a lot of inorganic Sodium + Chloride... And of course the body doesn't even absorb inorganic minerals as well as organic minerals... Sodium 31.42 Bromine 0.0403 Promethium <0.0011 Magnesium 3.12 Rubidium <0.0007 Samarium <0.0010 Aluminum <0.05 Strontium 0.0050 Europium <0.0009 Silicon 0.27 Yttrium <0.0004 Gadolinium <0.0007 Phosphorous <0.0395 Zirconium <0.0007 Terbium <0.0013 Sulfur 1.17 Niobium <0.0006 Dysprosium <0.0015 Chlorine 62.89 Molybdenum <0.0007 Holmium <0.0006 Potassium 0.64 Technetium <0.0009 Erbium <0.0007 Calcium 0.41 Ruthenium <0.0013 Thulium <0.0006 Scandium <0.005 Rhodium <0.0016 Ytterbium <0.0005 Titanium <0.0015 Palladium <0.0019 Lutetium <0.0005 Vanadium <0.0006 Silver <0.0025 Hafnium <0.0004 Chromium <0.0004 Cadmium <0.0035 Tantalum <0.0004 Manganese <0.0003 Indium <0.0044 Tungsten <0.0004 Iron 0.0284 Tin <0.0059 Rhenium <0.0004 Cobalt <0.0002 Antimony <0.0074 Osmium <0.0004 Nickel <0.0001 Tellurium <0.0537 Iridium <0.0003 Copper <0.0001 Iodine <0.0002 Platinum <0.0004 Zinc <0.0001 Cesium <0.0059 Gold <0.0004 Gallium <0.0001 Barium <0.0048 Mercury <0.0004 Germanium <0.0001 Lanthanum <0.0034 Thallium <0.0004 Arsenic <0.0001 Cerium <0.0023 Lead <0.0004 Selenium <0.0002 Praseodymium <0.0017 Bismuth <0.0004 Neodymium <0.0014 Thorium <0.0007 Uranium <0.0009 > > The key things to look out for in salt, is selecting a highly mineralised, fresh,unrefined, sun-dried sea salt. The sun-dried aspect is worth bearing in mind †" most sea salts are heat treated at high temperatures, and when this happens the mineral content and quality of the salt will be compromised. > > > > Here’s a good article on salt: > > > > http://www.theecologist.org/green_green_living/health_and_beauty/270993/what_typ\ e_of_salt_is_best.html > > > > > > There’s a few good salts around that are worth checking out: > > > > http://nelsonhealthcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=23 <http://nelsonhealthcare.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=23 & products_id=96 & osCsid=1\ f91eb3289199b737529642e6380bf56> & products_id=96 & osCsid=1f91eb3289199b737529642e6380bf56 > > > > http://www.synergy-health.co.uk/supplements/celtic_sea_salt.html > > > > > > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc > Sent: 02 June 2010 19:32 > > Subject: Re: salt > > > > > > > I could have caused harm in another direction by > > flushing out my minerals - but I am confused a bit - would it be ok to > > have celtic sea salt in it - or does that have in it the harmful NAcl??? > > You know, some people find sea salt (and even table salt) quite beneficial > for their symptoms -- especially people with poorly functioning adrenals. > So I'm not convinced that sea salt is all that bad for you. > > Marc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 That was me. Steve > From: <@...> > Subject: Re: salt > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 3:38 PM > I think those that are better with > Himalayan/sea salt, must be low in Sodium or Chloride, > because Himalayn/sea salt is mainly NaCl... > > Last year I had problems with my knees, if I took water > with Himalayan salt, it was better for my knees. Now I've > realized I'm low on Sodium and since eating more organic > Sodium (carrots, celery,...) my knee problems are almost > gone... > > Sodium is one of the most important minerals and like I had > with my knees a lot of other people may be better with > taking salt in the short run... but in the long run NaCl is > no good. > > Taking organic stuff may take a bit longer to have an > effect you notice but it's the best choice in the long run. > > > By the way, Marc, my heart may have missed a beat!, but > I've never noticed that myself or written this here, maybe > you're confusing with sb or sth else... I did write here > that when attacked with emf I do get pain in my " heart > zone " ... > > . > > > > > > > > > Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and > > > saw immediate improvement, specially, > > > in heart going into spasms, now, none ... > > > > Yes, and you'll notice that was just > complaining > > about his heart skipping a beat. Perhaps some > salt is > > needed. :-) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 As this is an older post I'll rephrase, Concerning adding salt to your food or drinking water I think: -kitchen salt NaCl is not so good in the long run because it's inorganic and toxic -sea salt and Himalaya salt is not much better than kitchen salt because it has got at least 90% NaCl -it's better to get Sodium from organic sources such as vegetables, goat's milk,... Now I've just read that Dead Sea salt is much more different than other sea salt: it has got only 30% NaCl... It has got mainly (this is based on measurements done in the 80's): 51% MgCl2 30% NaCl 14% CaCl2 4% KCl So dead sea salt seems much better if you want something else than mainly NaCl... This would also explain why they say it has healing effects to bathe in the Dead Sea... and not so much to bathe in the Atlantic. I've just bathed in water + MgCl2 by the way... will let you know if I have positive effects from it... I may try bathing in Dead Sea salt and Epsom salts too... Here's an interesting text on MgCl2 vs MgSO4 (epsom salts): http://alobar.livejournal.com/2746060.html . > > > > > Yesss, am taking Himalayan Salts, and > > > saw immediate improvement, specially, > > > in heart going into spasms, now, none ... > > > > Yes, and you'll notice that was just complaining > > about his heart skipping a beat. Perhaps some salt is > > needed. :-) > > > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hello Bee. My name is Raquel and I have been on the program for 1 week. When you say : " 1 1/2 teaspoons sprinkled over foods " . Do you mean to sprinkle the salt after cook the food, or can I add the salt while I am cooking?. Since I started this diet I am very thirsty and I am drinking a lot of water. I wake up thirsty, with dry throat. I think that I sprinkle more than 1 1/2 teaspoons over foods after cook them. Can this be the reason? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 > > Hello Bee. My name is Raquel and I have been on the program for 1 week. When you say : " 1 1/2 teaspoons sprinkled over foods " . Do you mean to sprinkle the salt after cook the food, or can I add the salt while I am cooking?. Since I started this diet I am very thirsty and I am drinking a lot of water. I wake up thirsty, with dry throat. I think that I sprinkle more than 1 1/2 teaspoons over foods after cook them. Can this be the reason? +++Hi Raquel, Welcome to our group. You can use ocean sea salt in these ways: 1) sprinkled on foods after they are cooked 2) added during cooking foods 3) mixed into water 4) by putting a little on your tongue and melting it The main reason you could be thirsty is because your body is running on its fight/flight nervous system, which can be due to emotional or physical stress. Being unhealthy is stress enough. That is because many things change throughout your body when it's running on that nervous system, including shutting down the production of saliva. In order to switch over do deep breathing exercises: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php Often you'll find saliva suddenly floods your mouth after doing a few of them. If that doesn't help, let me know. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Are you suggesting the Iodoral caused the health problems? What I have found to be true in my limited time on this earth (58 yrs), is when you fix one problem (ie: Iodine deficiency, or it could be anything), once you fix that particular problem, another will raise its ugly head. Our bodies can only handle a couple of issues at a time, and normally our bodies will let you know what those are. Once fixed, it moves on to the next issue. Years back, I quit smoking. A few months later I got really sick. Fortunately I got the help I needed and recovered. Had I not quit smoking, I probably wouldn't have been able to address this 2nd issue at that time, and I would not be alive today. As it could have been fatal. gwen salt I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need)thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 , I am newer at this too, but I found something that works for me. Drinking the salt in water did not do wonders for me, but you can put a little of the dose of salt in your drinking water through out the day so that you have taken it all by the end of the day. However, I have a Trader Joes store here that sells Pink Himalayan salt which is in bigger "rocks" and comes in a grinder. I open the container and shake out about 1/2-1 tsp of rock salt, and just swallow them like pills. It is really easier for me that way, and at $1.99 a bottle I don't feel like it taxes my grocery bill every few weeks. Also, use your good salt on your food after cooking or sprinkle on your salads and veggies. That starts to add up in time. I have usually cooked with a bit lower salt so my family does not crave salt, but I am upping my seasoning of food just a bit. We still prefer less salty than processed foods, but a bit more sea salt would be good for them all. Blessings, On 2/24/2011 4:09 AM, wrote: I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need) thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 So does this mean that one should be on thyroid meds with a diagnosis before starting any iodine? I used a product called thyro-balance over the summer, has 340 mcgs iodine in it. This is when my hair loss started becoming severe and has not stopped since discontinuing it. > > > > You have not gotten an answer because there isn't one. Accepted > > levels of supplementing are anywhere from 6.25 mgs - 50 mgs. > > Maintenance doses were considered to be 25 mgs for adults but as we > > learn more it is looking like 50 mgs may be the new needed dose to > > combat the halides we are bombarded with from all sides. > > For your child with Autism you can start him slowly at 6.25 mgs or > > lower and move him up to 12.5 mgs and see how it goes. My daughter is > > 8 and has been on 12.5 mgs since she was 6 yrs old. Autistic children > > seem to be very toxic. Have you considered getting an OATS test? You > > can get them to tell you where in their KREBS cycle they are needing > > nutrients. My son needed B Vitamins & Co-Q10 plus 5 HTP. I would > > have never guessed that he needed this but it told me this. He is not > > autistic but suffers from brain fog. He was also toxic in many > > environmental toxins which we tested for as well. It was part of the > > OATS test that we could add on. You can google Organic Acid Test or > > OATS to find out more info. Where we got it done is not available > > anymore. You will need to make sure that you are supporting him with > > selenium (100 mcg at least 3x / week), magnesium - I do 100 mgs a few > > times a week, Vit C in dosages of 2,000 - 3,000 to help with any > > detoxing. As for the salt. I put it in dipping cups and let my > > children eat it out of the cups and put it on their food. They craved > > it in the beginning and would eat tons of it. I let them. > > Yes you should be using salt as a supplement. The Iodine docs > > recommend 1/2 - 1 tsp per day unless you have detoxing symptoms and > > then you need to do the salt loading protocol - listed in the new > > members document in the files. > > Buist, ND > > Owner of Iodine Group > > > > * salt > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that > > I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an > > adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our > > table salt of course, but should we be taking a " dose " of salt > > also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked > > in the files/links and cannot find what I need) > > > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many > > times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. > > Thanks!! > > > > R > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 thank you ! That was the reply I needed! Yes, my son takes 70 mcg of selenium nearly every day in his multi, and he takes magnesium several different ways. He cannot tolerate that dose of Vitamin C due to oxalate conversion, so he gets just the RDA. I do want to add CoQ10 and B's, but I am waiting for a stool test to check for yeast before starting them (DAN's recommendations). I have never gotten an OAT but we did do organic acid tests through a traditional lab...got no info about his Kreb's cycle. I'll look into that. Anything else? Thank you so much! I can proceed with confidence now! R > > You have not gotten an answer because there isn't one. Accepted levels of supplementing are anywhere from 6.25 mgs - 50 mgs. Maintenance doses were considered to be 25 mgs for adults but as we learn more it is looking like 50 mgs may be the new needed dose to combat the halides we are bombarded with from all sides. > > For your child with Autism you can start him slowly at 6.25 mgs or lower and move him up to 12.5 mgs and see how it goes. My daughter is 8 and has been on 12.5 mgs since she was 6 yrs old. Autistic children seem to be very toxic. Have you considered getting an OATS test? You can get them to tell you where in their KREBS cycle they are needing nutrients. My son needed B Vitamins & Co-Q10 plus 5 HTP. I would have never guessed that he needed this but it told me this. He is not autistic but suffers from brain fog. He was also toxic in many environmental toxins which we tested for as well. It was part of the OATS test that we could add on. You can google Organic Acid Test or OATS to find out more info. Where we got it done is not available anymore. You will need to make sure that you are supporting him with selenium (100 mcg at least 3x / week), magnesium - I do 100 mgs a few times a week, Vit C in dosages of 2,000 - 3,000 to help with any detoxing. As for the salt. I put it in dipping cups and let my children eat it out of the cups and put it on their food. They craved it in the beginning and would eat tons of it. I let them. > > Yes you should be using salt as a supplement. The Iodine docs recommend 1/2 - 1 tsp per day unless you have detoxing symptoms and then you need to do the salt loading protocol - listed in the new members document in the files. > > Buist, ND > Owner of Iodine Group > > > > salt > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a " dose " of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need) > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!! > > R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 No it does not. My husband has hashi's and started on 37.5 mgs Iodoral. He has never been on thyroid meds. He takes the supporting nutrients too. Buist, ND Owner * salt> >> > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that> > I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an> > adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism?> >> > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our> > table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt> > also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked> > in the files/links and cannot find what I need)> >> > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many> > times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost.> > Thanks!!> >> > R> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have attached the organic acid pathway sheet. You need to take the high indicators and look at the paths. That tells you what nutrients need to be plugged in. The company name on the sheet is the name of the company that did my son's test. This is the KREBS cycle on this sheet. Buist, ND PS if you are reading from digest you won't get this attachment and you will need to go to the website. salt> > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need)> > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!!> > R> 1 of 1 File(s) Organic acid test pathway.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I just read yesterday on Biotin... a deficiency can cause hair loss!!! Do you get enough vit. b's??? laura On 2/24/2011 8:09 AM, laura19982005 wrote: So does this mean that one should be on thyroid meds with a diagnosis before starting any iodine? I used a product called thyro-balance over the summer, has 340 mcgs iodine in it. This is when my hair loss started becoming severe and has not stopped since discontinuing it. > > > > You have not gotten an answer because there isn't one. Accepted > > levels of supplementing are anywhere from 6.25 mgs - 50 mgs. > > Maintenance doses were considered to be 25 mgs for adults but as we > > learn more it is looking like 50 mgs may be the new needed dose to > > combat the halides we are bombarded with from all sides. > > For your child with Autism you can start him slowly at 6.25 mgs or > > lower and move him up to 12.5 mgs and see how it goes. My daughter is > > 8 and has been on 12.5 mgs since she was 6 yrs old. Autistic children > > seem to be very toxic. Have you considered getting an OATS test? You > > can get them to tell you where in their KREBS cycle they are needing > > nutrients. My son needed B Vitamins & Co-Q10 plus 5 HTP. I would > > have never guessed that he needed this but it told me this. He is not > > autistic but suffers from brain fog. He was also toxic in many > > environmental toxins which we tested for as well. It was part of the > > OATS test that we could add on. You can google Organic Acid Test or > > OATS to find out more info. Where we got it done is not available > > anymore. You will need to make sure that you are supporting him with > > selenium (100 mcg at least 3x / week), magnesium - I do 100 mgs a few > > times a week, Vit C in dosages of 2,000 - 3,000 to help with any > > detoxing. As for the salt. I put it in dipping cups and let my > > children eat it out of the cups and put it on their food. They craved > > it in the beginning and would eat tons of it. I let them. > > Yes you should be using salt as a supplement. The Iodine docs > > recommend 1/2 - 1 tsp per day unless you have detoxing symptoms and > > then you need to do the salt loading protocol - listed in the new > > members document in the files. > > Buist, ND > > Owner of Iodine Group > > > > * salt > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that > > I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an > > adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our > > table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt > > also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked > > in the files/links and cannot find what I need) > > > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many > > times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. > > Thanks!! > > > > R > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have upped all my B vitamins and even bought biotin to supplement, may help some but certainly not enough. My son is hypo and pdd-nos, I suspect I am as well and may need meds at this point, it's just so scary, but thanks for suggesting. > > > > > > > > You have not gotten an answer because there isn't one. Accepted > > > > levels of supplementing are anywhere from 6.25 mgs - 50 mgs. > > > > Maintenance doses were considered to be 25 mgs for adults but as we > > > > learn more it is looking like 50 mgs may be the new needed dose to > > > > combat the halides we are bombarded with from all sides. > > > > For your child with Autism you can start him slowly at 6.25 mgs or > > > > lower and move him up to 12.5 mgs and see how it goes. My daughter is > > > > 8 and has been on 12.5 mgs since she was 6 yrs old. Autistic children > > > > seem to be very toxic. Have you considered getting an OATS test? You > > > > can get them to tell you where in their KREBS cycle they are needing > > > > nutrients. My son needed B Vitamins & Co-Q10 plus 5 HTP. I would > > > > have never guessed that he needed this but it told me this. He is not > > > > autistic but suffers from brain fog. He was also toxic in many > > > > environmental toxins which we tested for as well. It was part of the > > > > OATS test that we could add on. You can google Organic Acid Test or > > > > OATS to find out more info. Where we got it done is not available > > > > anymore. You will need to make sure that you are supporting him with > > > > selenium (100 mcg at least 3x / week), magnesium - I do 100 mgs a few > > > > times a week, Vit C in dosages of 2,000 - 3,000 to help with any > > > > detoxing. As for the salt. I put it in dipping cups and let my > > > > children eat it out of the cups and put it on their food. They craved > > > > it in the beginning and would eat tons of it. I let them. > > > > Yes you should be using salt as a supplement. The Iodine docs > > > > recommend 1/2 - 1 tsp per day unless you have detoxing symptoms and > > > > then you need to do the salt loading protocol - listed in the new > > > > members document in the files. > > > > Buist, ND > > > > Owner of Iodine Group > > > > > > > > * salt > > > > > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that > > > > I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an > > > > adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > > > > > > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our > > > > table salt of course, but should we be taking a " dose " of salt > > > > also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked > > > > in the files/links and cannot find what I need) > > > > > > > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many > > > > times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > > > R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 No she is suggesting (I think) that the lack of enough iodine caused health problems. salt I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need)thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 stephanie...do you like the OATS testing better than spectracell? how do you feel about hair analysis? we did spectracell on some of my kids...not sure how it compares though...dawn > > > > You have not gotten an answer because there isn't one. Accepted levels of supplementing are anywhere from 6.25 mgs - 50 mgs. Maintenance doses were considered to be 25 mgs for adults but as we learn more it is looking like 50 mgs may be the new needed dose to combat the halides we are bombarded with from all sides. > > > > For your child with Autism you can start him slowly at 6.25 mgs or lower and move him up to 12.5 mgs and see how it goes. My daughter is 8 and has been on 12.5 mgs since she was 6 yrs old. Autistic children seem to be very toxic. Have you considered getting an OATS test? You can get them to tell you where in their KREBS cycle they are needing nutrients. My son needed B Vitamins & Co-Q10 plus 5 HTP. I would have never guessed that he needed this but it told me this. He is not autistic but suffers from brain fog. He was also toxic in many environmental toxins which we tested for as well. It was part of the OATS test that we could add on. You can google Organic Acid Test or OATS to find out more info. Where we got it done is not available anymore. You will need to make sure that you are supporting him with selenium (100 mcg at least 3x / week), magnesium - I do 100 mgs a few times a week, Vit C in dosages of 2,000 - 3,000 to help with any detoxing. As for the salt. I put it in dipping cups and let my children eat it out of the cups and put it on their food. They craved it in the beginning and would eat tons of it. I let them. > > > > Yes you should be using salt as a supplement. The Iodine docs recommend 1/2 - 1 tsp per day unless you have detoxing symptoms and then you need to do the salt loading protocol - listed in the new members document in the files. > > > > Buist, ND > > Owner of Iodine Group > > > > > > > > salt > > > > > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a " dose " of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need) > > > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!! > > > > R > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 We did a hair analysis test on my son too. I don't know anything about Spectracell testing. Steph salt> > > > > > > > I am so sorry to ask this again and again, but I don't feel that I've gotten an answer. What is a safe, strong starting dose for an adult with no health problems, and one for a 6 year old with autism? > > > > Second, our salt arrived yesterday. We are going to replace our table salt of course, but should we be taking a "dose" of salt also? All of us? How much? What exactly does this do? (I've looked in the files/links and cannot find what I need)> > > > thank you, and again I'm sorry to ask the same thing so many times...this is such a big group I think my questions got lost. Thanks!!> > > > R> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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