Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 At 05:54 AM 5/4/02 +0000, you wrote: >I now always use plastic gloves when applying it to cinnamon sticks, etc. for >extra strength smell in potpourri and herb garlands. >Considering how sensitizing cinnamon can be, ( any doubts try a dab on your >skin) >I take Marge's advice and avoid it in bath and body products. just a picky correction here...it's cinnamon BARK oil that is so strongly sensitizing... it can start a lifelong reaction... cinnamon LEAF oil is not a known sensitizer, but it IS a strong irritant and really has no place in skincare products. of course it's also cinnamon bark that is such a potent germkiller... useful in the lamp or diffuser, and in room sprays.... but NOT on the skin. Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 From the info I have both cinnamon bark and leaf have basically the same properties. Both do have antiseptic properties. I use cinnamon leaf in my soaps and have never had a problem. Both can be skin irritants if improperly used. I am not familar with using either in lotions, creams etc... but as far as soap goes it is perfectly safe as long as neither is overused. I do not use gloves when making soap. I must have tough skin because it doesn't bother me. If an aromatherapist out there has some info on this to share I would be happy to read from the site so that I may be corrected if I am incorrect. Sherry D -- Re:cinnamon At 05:54 AM 5/4/02 +0000, you wrote: >I now always use plastic gloves when applying it to cinnamon sticks, etc. for >extra strength smell in potpourri and herb garlands. >Considering how sensitizing cinnamon can be, ( any doubts try a dab on your >skin) >I take Marge's advice and avoid it in bath and body products. just a picky correction here...it's cinnamon BARK oil that is so strongly sensitizing... it can start a lifelong reaction... cinnamon LEAF oil is not a known sensitizer, but it IS a strong irritant and really has no place in skincare products. of course it's also cinnamon bark that is such a potent germkiller... useful in the lamp or diffuser, and in room sprays.... but NOT on the skin. Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Since it is an avoid, you are much better off using brewer's yeast tablets. (recommended for Os) ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Cinnamon I know there are some with diabetes on here and wonder if any of you take a teaspoon of cinnamon each day as is recommended and if so how you do it - I am hoping to stave off insulin resistance [runs in the family] and have tried a teaspoon each day in with a hot drink but it doesn't mix and even with continual stirring most of it ends up a gloopy disgusting mess in the bottom of the cup ( I'm going to try some spicy scones but doubt I'll manage a teaspoon in each one without it being a tad too strong. thanks ) *Finally got my diabetes ER4YT book today so can start reading it, still waiting for the standard ER4YT or LR4YT - can't remember which now; 14 days is sure a long time when you're waiting for something to come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 wrote: > > I know there are some with diabetes on here Hi , I have type 2 diabetes with very high insulin resistance and no ability to store insulin for phase 1 response after eating - and I am managing it with diet and supplements. I was diagnosed only recently like about 2 months ago and have done some intensive reading etc to figure out how to manage it. > and wonder if any of you > take a teaspoon of cinnamon each day as is recommended No. Cinnamon is not appropriate for Type O, but there are several things you can do. But first may I outline what insulin resistance is about, and recommend very strongly that you get your hands on a copy of the book " Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Control revised and updated " . You don't have to have diabetes to benefit greatly from this book - I sure wish I'd had it long before I got diabetes as then I'd not have it and I'd not have the damage I have from it. I would recommend this book very highly to anyone who is either overweight or insulin resistant or in a diabetes risk group or who has diabetes already (type 1 or 2). It really explains what's going on in your blood and with food and what fixes it as regards food, exercise, and glucose control and weight control. In a nutshell: Insulin resistance in brief is what you get if you are overweight. ALL overweight people have insulin resistance. Maybe some other people do too, especially if they eat high carb diets. Insulin resistance means insulin is failing to do one of its two jobs, namely to put glucose into cells to be used as energy. So insulin resistant people tend to be always tired and short of energy to burn. The other job insulin does however works perfectly, and that is the job of taking carbs and stuffing them into fat storage cells. So basically if you are insulin resistant: * you will tend to turn all the carbs you eat into stored fat * and you will tend to have high blood sugar because it is not being sent to cells for energy * and you will tend to be tired a lot and easily. The bad news is that the fatter you get the more insulin resistant you get, and the more fat you store - a vicious circle. The good news is that the reverse circle can also take place: If you are insulin resistant and you quit eating carbs (simple and " complex " makes no difference, they all feed the insulin fat hormone monster), and stick with high protein, high pigment leaf veg and mono and poly unsaturated oils, your insulin will not have any carbs to store as fat and the insulin resistance will gradually start to decline and you will lose weight and that will make the insulin resistance improve even more and so on - reversing the problem. So before you add supplements for insulin resistance I suggest you first change your diet to avoid triggering insulin - in other words to quit eating carbs. Here to give an example is a sample of my daily schedule, and it's working - I've lost a steady 2 pounds a week for 2 months now so far: Breakfast before swimming: 3 eggs, small tomato, half a green pepper, some onion flakes, 2 teasp of crushed dried parsley all in a scramble with 2 teasp EV olive oil, and 2 cups green tea. Then 1 square dark Royal Dark chocolate (RDC) I have two more RDC squares during ,my swimming session else my glucose drops too low. I swim a half mile. The only carbs here are the small tomato and RDS - but I need it for swimming. You may need more or less - you need a glucometer to see what's right./ You do not have to be diabetic to benefit from a glucometer - and you should get your blood glucose to remain 80 to 90 at all times - not that crazy high amount of 113-162 written on some test kit boxes. You get permanent damage if it is consistently over 100 even just after meals. 2 cups green tea in my water bottle. Breakfast with no swimming planned: Two eggs instead of three, a little onion powder and half a green pepper, 1 teasp olive oil, 2 cups green tea. Carbs need to be very low for breakfast as your blood sugar normally rises in the morning after you get up - your liver does that for you - so you do not need carbs to make it worse. I should have said - the higher your blood glucose the worse your insulin resistance gets - so you need to control blood sugar very closely to fix it. Lunch: Today I had ten chunks of beef (almost 1 inch cubes raw, smaller cooked) with a load of spinach, kale, collards, beet greens or other greens, 2 teasp olive oil OR a handful of walnuts and 1 RDC for the nice taste. Maybe some onion or radishes or suchlike. I turned it into a curry and thickened the meat juice with a little rye flour and rice bran mix to make instant gravy. 2 cups green tea. Carbs can be higher for lunch - but don't exceed 12g. In my case I can not go that high. In-between meal: Applegate brand turkey sausage (all organic), two of these with a load of green pepper and kale, and 2 cups green tea. 1 RDC. (Can you tell I am a chocoholic!) Supper: Half a small roast chicken including skin and loads of mushrooms, a few onion slices and a few cherry tomatoes. Green tea again. So this is a high protein moderate fat, very-low carb diet - and that's what you need for insulin resistance. Also for insulin resistance you need to NEVER EVER have carbs without a load of protein at the same time. So if you want chocolate or cake or whatever you need to do it the way I do - at the end of, and part of, a high protein meal. that way your insulin will not spike as badly as it does with carbs alone, and the spikes increase the insulin resistance. As I said, I am losing weight nicely on this diet, and I am also reducing my insulin resistance. The way to measure that short of a blood test for insulin, is to measure your blood glucose - which is why I suggest a meter. Two months ago my average blood sugar was 185 before I started this insulin resistance program. My insulin was 48, normal being less than 17, and so obviously the insulin was not fixing the glucose and that's insulin resistance. I started eating as described above and within a week I had my glucose around 136. Two weeks later I had it down to 126, and so on so that today it is between 100 and 117. I am too fat to get it lower than that yet, but it is going down as I do this diet and lose weight and I use the meter to control it closely as possible. Rules: If it is not under 100 I do not eat anything except protein. If it is 117 and I want chocolate, I eat beef instead and the craving will go and the glucose will *drop* after eating beef (or eggs) with no carbs - and in 2 hours I shall be down under 100 and I can have my RDC square with more protein. (Remember no carbs without *significant* protein.) I have discovered that if I crave the chocolate it really means I need protein. Maybe a smaller person would eat less quantity (I'm 6 foot 3, nonsecretor and 236 lbs on the way to 195 normal) - but the way I eat is to eat as much as I feel like eating at each meal - fill up on protein - be sure to include olive oil (mono-unsaturated fat) or walnuts (polyunsaturated fat) at every meal or snack and I don't need to watch how much protein. At a movie " popcorn " is the walnuts in my pocket. Two handfuls go with me, following a high meat meal before the movie. My protein intake might be higher than average - and I do have an illness that affects it but this is right for me - my blood protein was low three months ago and is now normal. My lipid profile that was bad is now worlds improved too on this plan. (I avoid saturated fat and never eat homogenized anything - but I don't stint on healthy fats.) So this plan works for how I feel, for how I look and for how my lab tests look. Feel free to copy. So you may find this worth a look to adapt for yourself. The book I recommended walks you through meal planning for insulin resistance step by step so you can tune it individually so your blood sugar is controlled - that is the secret - no blood sugar spikes. I do also use supplements, to get to your real question :-)) (But I hope something useful is above too!) INSULIN-RESISTANCE SUPPLEMENTS: (These are suggested by my doctor and homeopath and compare with several published sources.) * Multi-mineral with vanadium daily - or you can get vanadyl sulfate at a HF store if you can find it individually. I get a multi-mineral containing vanadium from bulknutrition.com where I get most of my supplements. * Chromium supplement three times a day. * Alpha-lipoic acid - I use as much as I can afford but ideally 300mg three times a day. I actually use 100mg three times a day, but I use R-ALA which is twice as useful as plain ALA and not twice the price. * Quercitin/Nettle Plus (Pilgrim's nutrition product, local HF store) which contains the foll in 3 caps per day: 250 mg Vit C; 250mg Pantothenic acid; 66 mg Mg; 1000 mg Quercitin; 150 mg bromelein; 100 mg Stinging nettle (Urtica dioica) * Vitamin E 800 to 1200 IU * Multimineral with decent amount of Vit A. All the above items improve insulin sensitivity. I am overweight as well and have high cortisol which resists fat burning so I also take weight loss supplements: * Clarinol CLA (conjugated=activated linoleic acid) 3 x 1/2 teasp/day * Inositol 500mg * L-arginine 2 x 500 mg * Tyrosine when I can afford to add it. * ALCAR = acetyl-L-carnitine 500 to 100mg/day * Lots of green tea, no coffee, no pop, no artificial anything and no licorice as there all affect weight. * No stress, no fights, lots of sleep. (Yes I consider these important " supplements " !) * Intentional planned Exercise * A weight loss email friend so we support each other and report at least weekly on progress, pick each other up, share successes and encourage and such. * A shopping list of all the best foods for my situation, permanently in my purse. Pictures of yummy stuff made from these in my kitchen. * A right-thinking card in my purse and on my desk. If you do emotional eating you also need the book " Self Matters " by Dr Phil McGraw - there's lots of homework in it but it will " cure " you :-) > I'm going to try some spicy scones but doubt I'll manage a > teaspoon in each one without it being a tad too strong. > thanks Scones are carbs so it is counter-productive - the scones will raise your insulin resistance more than any supplement can overcome. Try walnuts for a snack. Or after a protein meal, use blueberries as they have wonderful pigment - the more pigment the healthier. If it has no pigment it is not your friend!!! On my diet I eat no fruit at all, I find it affects my glucose too much - but get a glucometer and see what your glucose does after different foods - and tune this to *you*. The diabetes eat right book is great for giving you your " grocery store " . The type O stuff in there is what I imagine as existing in " my " grocery store - anything not there is not in my store and not in my house :-) I built my shopping list from this book - modified by the above method. The diabetes association is out of date and still does not understand the connection between carbs, blood sugar and insulin and the need to exclude carbs - which I hope I explained here - but which is well explained in Dr Bernstein's book. By the way he is a diabetic, has been so about 60 years - and he treats obese and diabetic folks - anyone with insulin issues - he knows his stuff and it jibes well with what I know from other good sources. Hope this is useful. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 >>Hope this is useful. **Useful ? - You are wonderful and very kind to take the time to write so much and in an understandable way! Thankyou. I thought cinnamon was a neutral - I was going by my BTD O food.beverage & supplement list book - obviously need to double check things in there. I am overweight, but my father who is insulin resistant and diabetic type 2 never was overweight at all. I have practically no carbs except veg ones as before this I looked hard at both atkins and the south beach diets and stopped breads,pastries,most cakes and biscuits then and have since cut down further. You mention you have mushrooms, I was avoiding these as some are an avoid but others aren't and the standard white mushrooms we get are not labelled with any name and being as I've never heard of the ones listed as an avoid I thought it best just to avoid them all. You are doing superb with your blood sugar and weight loss - I certainly hope I can put your advice to good use and reverse the process for myself also. thankyou very much again ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks - obviously my type O food,beverage & supplement book is already out of date ( as it lists it as a neutral. I will remember to double-check stuff, pity, I was hoping to use it when I shop as it is a handy size and slightly smaller than your standard paperback. thanks ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 wrote: > > Thanks - obviously my type O food,beverage & supplement book is > already out of date ( as it lists it as a neutral. I do use mine for shopping but I have adjusted it to the diabetes book recommendations with the help of some white-out and editing. In fact I got a 2nd copy after I got the Bernstein book so I can readjust to include that as well and to tune it for what my own blood glucose does with which. Besides the first copy was so dog-eared from use :-)) So just edit yours suitably. :-)) Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 >Thanks - obviously my type O food,beverage & supplement book is >already out of date ( as it lists it as a neutral. > >I will remember to double-check stuff, pity, I was hoping to use it >when I shop as it is a handy size and slightly smaller than your >standard paperback. > >thanks > > ) It IS a neutral for secretors. When in doubt, check the database as it has the latest updated information. http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 > It IS a neutral for secretors. When in doubt, check the database as > it has the latest updated information. > > http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm ** I have the secreter test but was thinking it best to do it and post it after the festive season incase of postal delays - with it being saliva does anyone know if delays would matter ? If not I'll do it now. I've got the diabetes book but haven't had the chance to pick it up yet as we are homing and trying to help an extra child from a troubled home at the moment and are trying to get social to shift a gear for him and find out what will happen for christmas for him so he can know what's what[!]. thanks ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 According to Type Base 4, which should be the latest information, cinnamon is neutral for secretors and avoid for non secretors. Re: Re: Cinnamon wrote: > > Thanks - obviously my type O food,beverage & supplement book is > already out of date ( as it lists it as a neutral. I do use mine for shopping but I have adjusted it to the diabetes book recommendations with the help of some white-out and editing. In fact I got a 2nd copy after I got the Bernstein book so I can readjust to include that as well and to tune it for what my own blood glucose does with which. Besides the first copy was so dog-eared from use :-)) So just edit yours suitably. :-)) Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 > No. Cinnamon is not appropriate for Type O, I thought cinnamon was a neutral/frequently. At least, that's what it says in the ER4YT Diabetes book. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hi - I spoke too soon - I am a nonsecretor and it is not okay for nonsecretors - I had thought it was avoid for all but I was wrong. Sorry!!!!!! .....Irene CK wrote: >>No. Cinnamon is not appropriate for Type O, > > I thought cinnamon was a neutral/frequently. At least, that's what it says > in the ER4YT Diabetes book. > > Carolyn -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Thanks this looks like a great website. Cinnamon is great for blood sugar control. joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 And it's absolutely wonderful in hot cocoa, and good for you!! Tina p.s. just had to bring chocolate into the conversation....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I read that on the sugar control! Remember awhile back there was study saying AZ was another type of diabetes? And the studies about kids with DS having trouble with sugars?? There was one like that wasn't there??? ( ginko is not helping me much, let me tell ya <g>) It just seemed to hit on more then a couple issues that seem common to kids with DS. Speaking of sugar control- I have been doing the South Beach Diet, though in typical style I didn't read the whole book til just last night, I just started to eat what he said. Really fasinacting book! Hits home cause out of my four older brothers THREE have had major heart attacks! Including the one who a lifer in the Navy and followed a low fat diet all his life, never over weight, jogger etc. Fourth brother passed away long time ago of lung cancer. One of the older brothers also had type 2 diabetes. The twins, 4years above me, both have high lipids and are showing signs of heart trouble now too. geesh... I just had my lipid profile which came back in terrific shape, but I was surprised that my fasting glucose was 96! !00 is normal, but Mercola is saying 80 should be. So not happy about that number at all and want to bring it down. Hopefully the diet and maybe added cinnamon?? Wish I could find a cardiologist as proactive as the one who wrote that book. He says if you have a heart attack , he FAILED. :-) Another interesting tidbit- ALL the cards he knows over 40 years of age are on statins!!! Regardless of their chlosteral numbers. I was floored. They all take aspirin too. Sorry way off topic!! Let me just say one more thing though! Somewhat DS related, at least in our house since is on the SCD. I too have been off high glycemic carbs for a full month now and last night I had some potato casserole made with white potatoes. What a mistake. Was hungry soon after, didn't sleep well, felt like I should get up and eat something and today my brain has been in a horrible fog along with a lot of achey joints and a headache. I wonder if this how always felt when eating those things too? The difference in how I felt was very dramatic and the brain fog has been down right scary. Funny thing is I wasn't even hungry for the potatoes, just too lazy to make myself something else and thought I could get away with a little bit. Won't make that mistake again! Bought myself some South Beach TV dinners. :-) It's late in the afternoon and I finally feel as though I am starting to come out of the fog. Carol in IL Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, chronic constipation ( cured now ) and DS. My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Oh Tina, I forgot to add I found a great low sugar/carb chocolate! I would like this even not following a diet! Lindt brand. It's at our grocery store and the 80% bar is SO YUMMY... best thing??? No one else in the house likes it!!! LOL So it's always 'there' <g> And you can have chocolate on the SBD, it's actually a very easy diet to stick with. And here I thought it was just one of those 'Hollywood' craze type diets. :-)Carol in IL Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, chronic constipation ( cured now ) and DS. My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi Carol, I joined a fitness boot camp about a month ago. Included in the camp is nutritional coaching. I was taught that carbs will only stay in your body for an hour. Protein, however will stay in your stomach two hours, and fats from three to five hours. So it's important to consume a protein whenever you consume a carb. (fats are usually in protein) so that you don't get hungry so soon. Hope this helps. JudyCarol in IL <ps1272000@...> wrote: I read that on the sugar control! Remember awhile back there was study saying AZ was another type of diabetes? And the studies about kids with DS having trouble with sugars?? There was one like that wasn't there??? ( ginko is not helping me much, let me tell ya <g>) It just seemed to hit on more then a couple issues that seem common to kids with DS. Speaking of sugar control- I have been doing the South Beach Diet, though in typical style I didn't read the whole book til just last night, I just started to eat what he said. Really fasinacting book! Hits home cause out of my four older brothers THREE have had major heart attacks! Including the one who a lifer in the Navy and followed a low fat diet all his life, never over weight, jogger etc. Fourth brother passed away long time ago of lung cancer. One of the older brothers also had type 2 diabetes. The twins, 4years above me, both have high lipids and are showing signs of heart trouble now too. geesh... I just had my lipid profile which came back in terrific shape, but I was surprised that my fasting glucose was 96! !00 is normal, but Mercola is saying 80 should be. So not happy about that number at all and want to bring it down. Hopefully the diet and maybe added cinnamon?? Wish I could find a cardiologist as proactive as the one who wrote that book. He says if you have a heart attack , he FAILED. :-) Another interesting tidbit- ALL the cards he knows over 40 years of age are on statins!!! Regardless of their chlosteral numbers. I was floored. They all take aspirin too. Sorry way off topic!! Let me just say one more thing though! Somewhat DS related, at least in our house since is on the SCD. I too have been off high glycemic carbs for a full month now and last night I had some potato casserole made with white potatoes. What a mistake. Was hungry soon after, didn't sleep well, felt like I should get up and eat something and today my brain has been in a horrible fog along with a lot of achey joints and a headache. I wonder if this how always felt when eating those things too? The difference in how I felt was very dramatic and the brain fog has been down right scary. Funny thing is I wasn't even hungry for the potatoes, just too lazy to make myself something else and thought I could get away with a little bit. Won't make that mistake again! Bought myself some South Beach TV dinners. :-) It's late in the afternoon and I finally feel as though I am starting to come out of the fog. Carol in IL Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, chronic constipation ( cured now ) and DS. My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Oh, I'll have to try that. I never get any of the goodies around....my family just snaps it up right away. It's like they think I'll never buy any goodies again (which could be true!). Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and 308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Good one, Lee, I wouldn't have known that. Here's a link to the real stuff, looks like! http://www.ceylon-cinnamon.com/Identify-Cinnamon.htmLee <leecuate@...> wrote: I'm just curious as to what type of cinnamon you are using. Most of the cinnamon sold in the US is actually cassia which is much cheaper than true cinnamon. Cassia contains high levels of coumarin compared to true cinnamon. Coumarin is a precurser of Warfarin, an anticoagulant also used as rat poisin. Coumarin is also somewhat toxic to the liver and kidneys. There are also several other types of cinnamon.Just the botanist in me.Lee> Hi everyone,> Just a followup on my husbands diabetes... I know that some of you > might not be interested in hearing about this because it does not > relate to hep c but there might be others who also are diabetic and > it might help someone, so in that vein, Im posting this info..> 6 weeks ago, my husband was diagnosed with diabetes with a blood > sugar of 132 fasting, his blood pressure was very elevated, his > cholesterol was very high along with his triglicerides. He is 6 ft 3-> 4 and he weighed in at 238. The doc said for him to lose 5-10 pounds > and to watch his foods,, and to come back in 6 weeks to have his > blood checked again.. so,,, we started on a protein enriched diet ( > not high protein) and we started walking just to the end of the > street and back which took us about 12 min round trip each day. He > started eating virtually very little fruit except at breakfast which > was really hard for him.. for breakfast he would eat some plain sugar > free yogurt with blueberries or marrionberries, or a couple of hard > boiled eggs, we ate only whole grains, and real whole wheat breads, > no 'wheat flavored' breads, you gotta watch labels because most wheat > bread is only 'flavored' and not the real thing. he stopped eating > ketchup and other condiments that have sugar and settled on mustard. > He had to stop drinking his lemonade too, and that was really the > hardest thing he has done.but we increased our veggies,, lots of > veggies,, So anyway, I had him start on the bioslife 2 for his > cholesterol and blood sugars which I am taking as well for my > cholesterol because it is also very good at stabilizing the > hemoglobin A1c and daily blood sugars as well as loweing the > cholesterol. At night before he went to bed, he ate some protein > because we found that when he did not eat between dinner and > breakfast, his fasting blood sugars were actually higher than when he > ate something before bed. so he either ate some hard boiled eggs ( > throwing the yolk out because thats where the cholesterol is and the > whites are pure protein that is the best kind of protein) and he > tooks cinnamon that I put into capsules, chromium and a pancreatin > supplement. Well we found that when he did this before bedtime, his > blood sugars were NORMAL and when he didnt do that, his blood sugars > showed diabetes. His hemoglobin A1c was NORMAL at 5.7, anything less > than 6.0 is good, so this last 6 weeks did impact his A1c too.. his > cholesterol was NORMAL, his fasting blood sugar that they tested at > the same time he had all the other labs done was NORMAL and his doc > has officially said his diabetes IS CURED... so as long as we > continue doing these things, he will not have to go onto oral > insulin. HOW great is that??? When we told the doc about what we > were doing, I think he initially had a knee jerk reaction about how > these things are not supposed to work,, but then HOW could he argue > with the labs? It does work... everytime Rog forgot to take his > cinnamon and chromium or forgot to eat before he went to bed, his > blood sugars were 140-190!! Such a simple thing, dont you think? I > bought one of those self-filling capsule fillers and some empty vegan > capsules and I fill his cinnamon and our bioslife because I just > cannot gag the bioslife down anylonger so we just take our capsules > with a big glass of water... the only thing we still have to get down > some is his triglycerides which actually did come down some but still > need to keep coming down. The bioslife will reduce that the rest of > the way over the next couple of months.. > So, in additon to this, roger lost 10 pounds and I have lost a few > myself. sooo,, I just wanted to share this with you guys as many of > you have diabetes as well.. > jax> > > > > > ---------------------------------> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > ---------------------------------> Never miss an email again!> Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. 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Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Thanks, It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day let along 6g. I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or something like that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week. Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I mean when I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and put on some pounds? From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of asfyso Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33 samters Subject: Cinnamon Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses of cinnamon : http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk_cannot_be_ruled_out.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 There is good theoretical basis behind the idea that nutrition may affect conditions such as asthma and Samter's, not to mention allergies. In practice, many effects may overlap and it would require testing/elimination to see which ones or which combinations affect most a given individual. That being said, bad sugars (or, to be more precise, high-glycemic index sugars), Omega-6 fats and high-arachidonic-acid fats (eggs, fat meat) would tend to worsen Samter's ; there are theoretical reasons for that, and I believe experience supports it too. Putting on pounds fast is likely to result from the excessive consumption of such foods ; switching to low-glycemic index sugars (fruits, vegetables, complete cereals) and modifying the fat content of the diet (less Omega-6s, more Omega-3s, mediterranean oils such as olive, less fat meat & eggs) would make it much more difficult to gain weight and may improve overall condition. In particular, eliminating all cakes, pastries, processed sugars, etc for a while (at least one or two months) will begin to yield good results on the scale. Eliminating Omega-6s is not recommended as they are needed, but they may need to be reduced if they are in excess. > > Thanks, > > It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day let along 6g. > I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or something like > that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper > container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week. > > Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I mean when > I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and put on some > pounds? > > From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of > asfyso > Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33 > samters > Subject: Cinnamon > > Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses of cinnamon : > http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk\ _can > not_be_ruled_out.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I started my diet today, I aim to drink lots of fresh vegetable juice’s and eat yogurts and cottage cheese with Celery and carrots when the hungry urge comes. I will need to keep my coffee though for the time being. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of asfyso Sent: 14 October, 2008 04:13 samters Subject: Re: Cinnamon There is good theoretical basis behind the idea that nutrition may affect conditions such as asthma and Samter's, not to mention allergies. In practice, many effects may overlap and it would require testing/elimination to see which ones or which combinations affect most a given individual. That being said, bad sugars (or, to be more precise, high-glycemic index sugars), Omega-6 fats and high-arachidonic-acid fats (eggs, fat meat) would tend to worsen Samter's ; there are theoretical reasons for that, and I believe experience supports it too. Putting on pounds fast is likely to result from the excessive consumption of such foods ; switching to low-glycemic index sugars (fruits, vegetables, complete cereals) and modifying the fat content of the diet (less Omega-6s, more Omega-3s, mediterranean oils such as olive, less fat meat & eggs) would make it much more difficult to gain weight and may improve overall condition. In particular, eliminating all cakes, pastries, processed sugars, etc for a while (at least one or two months) will begin to yield good results on the scale. Eliminating Omega-6s is not recommended as they are needed, but they may need to be reduced if they are in excess. > > Thanks, > > It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day let along 6g. > I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or something like > that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper > container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week. > > Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I mean when > I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and put on some > pounds? > > From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of > asfyso > Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33 > samters > Subject: Cinnamon > > Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses of cinnamon : > http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk\ _can > not_be_ruled_out.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 good luck with the diet Steve! BeckySteve <skunkburner@...> wrote: I started my diet today, I aim to drink lots of fresh vegetable juice’s and eat yogurts and cottage cheese with Celery and carrots when the hungry urge comes. I will need to keep my coffee though for the time being. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of asfysoSent: 14 October, 2008 04:13samters Subject: Re: Cinnamon There is good theoretical basis behind the idea that nutrition mayaffect conditions such as asthma and Samter's, not to mention allergies.In practice, many effects may overlap and it would requiretesting/elimination to see which ones or which combinations affect mosta given individual. That being said, bad sugars (or, to be more precise,high-glycemic index sugars), Omega-6 fats and high-arachidonic-acid fats(eggs, fat meat) would tend to worsen Samter's ; there are theoreticalreasons for that, and I believe experience supports it too. Putting onpounds fast is likely to result from the excessive consumption of suchfoods ; switching to low-glycemic index sugars (fruits, vegetables,complete cereals) and modifying the fat content of the diet (lessOmega-6s, more Omega-3s, mediterranean oils such as olive, less fat meat & eggs) would make it much more difficult to gain weight and may improveoverall condition. In particular, eliminating all cakes, pastries,processed sugars, etc for a while (at least one or two months) willbegin to yield good results on the scale. Eliminating Omega-6s is notrecommended as they are needed, but they may need to be reduced if theyare in excess.>> Thanks,>> It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day letalong 6g.> I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or somethinglike> that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper> container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week.>> Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I meanwhen> I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and puton some> pounds?>> From: samters [mailto:samters ] OnBehalf Of> asfyso> Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33> samters > Subject: Cinnamon>> Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses ofcinnamon :>http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk\_can> not_be_ruled_out.pdf> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 If dieting, remember to stay balanced between proteins (prefer fish - but avoid farmed ones, lean meat, yoghurt), lipids (prefer olive oil, fish oils, but don't eliminate other oils, low-fat yoghurt/milk), and glucids (fruits, vegetables, complete or semi-complete rice/pasta/cereals/bread, severely reduce added sugars). And drink decent amounts of normally-mineralized water (avoid extremes such as almost-no-minerals water or highly mineralized water). No alcohol of course. Exercise (even walking 30 minutes a day is good enough as long as it is daily). Go to bed early (theoretically very good for Samter's). Glycemic index tables (see on the internet) are of real use in planning out food preferences. Eliminating or severely reducing pastries, cakes, cookies, candies etc is very costly, at times inhuman, especially the first 3-4 weeks, but then the habit kicks in when the brain gets accustomed to the new chemistry, and pounds will start flying off the scales because the metabolism will begin tapping the fat reserves. When that happens, it may (or may not) have a fluctuating (sometimes good, sometimes bad) effect on Samter's because fats get released into the bloodstream under the same form they were saved in the first place. If craving for a candy or a cake, have some fruits, fruit muesli or whatever else reasonable until the brain stops asking (it will, eventually). Begin decelerating the process when the target weight comes into sight, because it always takes some time (from 1-2 weeks to 1-3 months) for the metabolism to adjust its functioning after switching diets. I lost 35-40 pounds in a little less than two years that way, and have not regained much since, so I feel quite comfortable when saying that reducing bad sugars and bad fats does work in the long run. Now, pastries still look great, but many taste like poison after the second bite, because of their excessive sugar/fat content, so I am not even inclined to revert to old habits. Also, it is being increasingly realized that this type of diet is quite efficient at reversing metabolic syndrome, and even improving on early diabetes, so it is likely to help many conditions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day let > along 6g. > > I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or something > like > > that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper > > container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week. > > > > Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I mean > when > > I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and put > on some > > pounds? > > > > From: samters [mailto:samters ] On > Behalf Of > > asfyso > > Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33 > > samters > > Subject: Cinnamon > > > > Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses of > cinnamon : > > > http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk\ \ > _can > > not_be_ruled_out.pdf > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I forgot to add that reasonable amounts of spices and herbs do help a lot to make a low-bad-fats/low-bad-carbs diet more friendly. Keeping a half-dozen or more dried powder dispensers on hand is very handy to vary the taste. Fresh herbs and spices are even better. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > It would be unusual for anyone to digest 1g of cinnamon a day let > > along 6g. > > > I read some time ago that it slows the blood sugar level or > something > > like > > > that. Basically controls the blood sugar spikes etc. I use a pepper > > > container & sprinkle my porridge 5/6 days a week. > > > > > > Question; It seems that when I overeat it affects my breathing, I > mean > > when > > > I get fat etc like the last few weeks I have been eating bad and put > > on some > > > pounds? > > > > > > From: samters [mailto:samters ] On > > Behalf Of > > > asfyso > > > Sent: 13 October, 2008 18:33 > > > samters > > > Subject: Cinnamon > > > > > > Just a warning about the potential risks of high daily doses of > > cinnamon : > > > > > > http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/245/high_daily_intakes_of_cinnamon_health_risk\ \ > \ > > _can > > > not_be_ruled_out.pdf > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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