Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Hi Anne ... I really wish that I could help you with those plastic containers, but I can't ... good luck! nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 To get VCO in gallon containers I have had to buy it in plastic. With both TT and QFI, these containers have been almost impossible to get open. It has taken me an hour to open them, and it has involved hammering a serrated knife through the top and sawing through the top until I can scoop the oil out in huge chunks. It is a terrible nuisance. From now on I am going to order the VCO in liters instead. Those, too, however, are plastic. I move them to glass when I get them. The gallon ones, however, I have to wait until I can set aside the time and energy. Nina Plastic containers Cin, Most plastics do not hold up to coconut oil or even other oils. Oils act as solvents on some plastics and dissolve them. This is why it is best to buy oil, including coconut oil, in glass jars. A good food grade plastic is relatively stable but cheap plastic bottles will be dissolved by the oil. So it is best not to put coconut oil in plastic containers or with containers with plastic seals. Bruce Skin problems > > Hi, > > I am having a problem that I hope someone can help me with. A good > while back when I first started putting virgin coconut oil on my face at > night, it was wonderful. I already have good skin, but it made my skin > even > better. I was using a little that was left in the glass bottle it came > in. > I eventually put the rest of it in a little plastic container that I had > and > kept it in my bathroom. Well, I had open heart surgery and didn't use it > for 6-8 weeks. I started using it on my face again and my skin got very, > very dry. Very flaky. I stopped using it for a while and my face cleared > up. I then put some more (I threw away the oil in the plastic container) > oil in a little glass bowl and put a plastic cover over it. I began using > that oil on my face and sure enough, my face started getting very dry > again. > I stopped using it and my face cleared up. My question is this: does the > plastic have anything to do with it? The plastic I am covering it with > now > is a little bowl cover with elastic around it. Like I said I think it is > the plastic because when I first started using it (when it was in the > glass > bottle), my skin was fine. I used it like that for a while. Has anyone > else had any experience like this? > > Thanks, > > Cin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Good morning, Malcolm :-) In message <d80ve8+9827eGroups> you wrote: > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not good for > brewing KT. It's all a matter of how fussy you are ;-) As I've said before, foodgrade 1, 2 and 5 are considered safe even for acidic food use, although there is a variety of different opinion, similar to the veggie versus non-veggie issue. http://www.packaginggraphics.net/plastic-recycle-logo-identification.htm Recycle Logo | Recycling Symbols for Plastic Packaging http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/education/quicklist-detail.asp?Main_ID=353 How to tell plastics apart: by the numbers Anyway, those 2 site addresses are useful in explaining the different plastics. If I remember rightly, the Happy Herbalist Ed uses some foodgrade plastic containers and sells them. A friend of mine who carries Kombucha supplies also carries 5 litre grade 2 buckets - I use quite a few of them. The thing to watch out for is whether any roughness or deterioration in the plastic may be showing. Especially the inside of the brewing container needs regularly checking. Any signs of pitting or roughness, the container needs to replaced ASAP. > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to check > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the base. > There was and the number was 5. > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it not > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > is 'food' quality plastic? Yes, 1, 2 and 5 are by many considered to be safe and usable for brewing. I used grade 5 for a long time without any problems until I managed to get the grade 2 buckets. I also brew in many glass containers, especially the cultures that I send out to people plus the starter liquid ... just to be on the safe side ;-) > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > container? I would only use a container that shows the symbols 1, 2 or 5 in the triangle, normally on the bottom of the container. > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my container. > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an elastic > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated it is > perfect for the job. I should use several layers of tights material, to make absolutely sure that there is no chance of fruitfly or other bugs to squeeze through the mesh, depending how open the knit is. Sounds an o.k. sort of thing to use as long as it does not come into contact with the brew ;-) Hope that goes towards answering your questions Happy brewing and drinking! Greetings to you and your wife :-) Margret -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... www.therpc.f9.co.uk +---------------------------------------------------------------+ No tree has branches so foolish as to fight amongst themselves. -Ojibwa Indian saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 It does not matter which grade plastic you use, the fact that it is plastic is a matter for concern. As you will recall from your chemistry class, acids are stored in glass because they do not react with each other. The KT becomes more acidic over time and can eat into the plastic, causing the petrochemicals to leach into the brew. Remember, acids are NEVER stored in plastic, only glass. Plastic containers > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not good for > brewing KT. > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to check > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the base. > There was and the number was 5. > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it not > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > is 'food' quality plastic? > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > container? > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my container. > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an elastic > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated it is > perfect for the job. > > Malcolm. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Hi you'd said; " Not necessarily true. For example there is hydroflouric acid which dissolves glass. Only certain non-reactive plastics can be used to store it Blessings mark Plastic containers > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not good for > brewing KT. > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to check > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the base. > There was and the number was 5. > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it not > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > is 'food' quality plastic? > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > container? > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my container. > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an elastic > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated it is > perfect for the job. > > Malcolm. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 In my school days the acid that was stored in glass was very concentrated such as Nitric, Hydrocloric, and other nasty big burn stuff if got on ones skin. Surly the acids that we are talking about here is realy not so caustic otherwise we would not be drinking it. I would agree that glass would be best, but it is not easily to obtain suitable glass containers for KT. So we have to use the next best and cheapest thing. I am new to KT but I also feel sure that the many people on here that have been useing 'Plastic' for their brews for some time are still alive and well. Sauce that contains citric acid (Vinegar) is now contained in plastic bottles. (I just checked HP sauce is stored in a triangle 5 plastic bottle). Malcolm. > It does not matter which grade plastic you use, the fact that it is plastic > is a matter for concern. As you will recall from your chemistry class, acids > are stored in glass because they do not react with each other. The KT > becomes more acidic over time and can eat into the plastic, causing the > petrochemicals to leach into the brew. Remember, acids are NEVER stored in > plastic, only glass. > > Plastic containers > > > > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not good for > > brewing KT. > > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to check > > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the base. > > There was and the number was 5. > > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it not > > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > > is 'food' quality plastic? > > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > > container? > > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my container. > > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an elastic > > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated it is > > perfect for the job. > > > > Malcolm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 We seem to be laboring over this plastic issue. If there are any members from Europe, perhaps they can tell us if any plastics are forbidden to be used in drinks in their country. Also, there is quite a bit of info online about how plastics leach into liquids. If we are using KT to obtain natural benefits, why are we even debating the use of plastics? As for finding glass containers. If you're in the USA try Wallmart. They have great large glass containers. And you can improvise with large mayonnaise jars that are sold in wholesalers to restaurants and are sold in SAMS, etc. Other than that, This Is One Great Helpful Group! More like a friendly family. Dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 06:03 PM 6/6/2005, you wrote: >In my school days the acid that was stored in glass was very >concentrated such as Nitric, Hydrocloric, and other nasty big burn >stuff if got on ones skin. >Surly the acids that we are talking about here is realy not so >caustic otherwise we would not be drinking it. >I would agree that glass would be best, but it is not easily to >obtain suitable glass containers for KT. So we have to use the next >best and cheapest thing. >I am new to KT but I also feel sure that the many people on here >that have been useing 'Plastic' for their brews for some time are >still alive and well. >Sauce that contains citric acid (Vinegar) is now contained in >plastic bottles. (I just checked HP sauce is stored in a triangle 5 >plastic bottle). >Malcolm. > > > > > > It does not matter which grade plastic you use, the fact that it >is plastic > > is a matter for concern. As you will recall from your chemistry >class, acids > > are stored in glass because they do not react with each other. The >KT > > becomes more acidic over time and can eat into the plastic, >causing the > > petrochemicals to leach into the brew. Remember, acids are NEVER >stored in > > plastic, only glass. > > > > Plastic containers > > > > > > > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not >good for > > > brewing KT. > > > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to >check > > > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the >base. > > > There was and the number was 5. > > > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it >not > > > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > > > is 'food' quality plastic? > > > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > > > container? > > > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my >container. > > > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an >elastic > > > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated >it is > > > perfect for the job. > > > > > > Malcolm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years now and nothing wrong. Chris Re: Plastic containers In my school days the acid that was stored in glass was very concentrated such as Nitric, Hydrocloric, and other nasty big burn stuff if got on ones skin. Surly the acids that we are talking about here is realy not so caustic otherwise we would not be drinking it. I would agree that glass would be best, but it is not easily to obtain suitable glass containers for KT. So we have to use the next best and cheapest thing. I am new to KT but I also feel sure that the many people on here that have been useing 'Plastic' for their brews for some time are still alive and well. Sauce that contains citric acid (Vinegar) is now contained in plastic bottles. (I just checked HP sauce is stored in a triangle 5 plastic bottle). Malcolm. > It does not matter which grade plastic you use, the fact that it is plastic > is a matter for concern. As you will recall from your chemistry class, acids > are stored in glass because they do not react with each other. The KT > becomes more acidic over time and can eat into the plastic, causing the > petrochemicals to leach into the brew. Remember, acids are NEVER stored in > plastic, only glass. > > Plastic containers > > > > It has been said on here that some plastic containers are not good for > > brewing KT. > > I am doing my third brew in such a container. I was advised to check > > the base to see if there was a number in the triangle on the base. > > There was and the number was 5. > > What is the best number on the container for KT use or does it not > > matter as long as the container has the required number and it > > is 'food' quality plastic? > > If a container is unsuitable what effect would show on/in the > > container? > > Tip: I am useing a pair of my wife's old tights to cover my container. > > I have cut off the legs and sealed the cut opening with an elastic > > band. The top goes over the container and as it is elasticated it is > > perfect for the job. > > > > Malcolm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to lead to lung cancer... Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. Randie > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years now and > nothing wrong. > > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 And then again, I've seen people that have never smoked that died of lung cancer. You live, you'll die and paranoia won't help. I've seen as much research both ways that balances to a point of whats true and not. If I feel safe enough to allow my son to drink juice from plastic then I'm not real worried about the same containers being used for KT. And by the way, I use beer bottles to bottle mine. I used to use plastic like the tast of the bottled better. Chris Re: Plastic containers Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to lead to lung cancer... Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. Randie > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years now and > nothing wrong. > > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 In all of this discussion of glass vs plastic I only have one question. Does could someone please tell me of a reasonable source of either one to bottle my finished product in. I just don't drink enough pop, never drink beer or anything else to be able to have the needed bottles to put up my precious brew in -- Re: Plastic containers Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to lead to lung cancer... Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. Randie > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years now and > nothing wrong. > > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 On 6/6/05, Stanley <chrisshann@...> wrote: \ > And by the way, I use beer bottles to bottle mine. I used to use plastic > like the tast of the bottled better. > > Chris What do you use for the lids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I got a bottle capper and caps from a brewery supply. Chris Re: Plastic containers On 6/6/05, Stanley <chrisshann@...> wrote: \ > And by the way, I use beer bottles to bottle mine. I used to use plastic > like the tast of the bottled better. > > Chris What do you use for the lids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I bought a case of bottles for like 9 bucks at brewery supply with caps and a capper. The caps were like 3 or 4 bucks a pound or something. The capper was like 18 bucks or so. I use the juice bottles from Juicy Juice bottles or the other juice 1/2 gallon bottles. Like said before, a 1, 3 or 5 which I wouldn't go above a 1, is supposed to be safe. Its that little number on the bottom of the bottle that is inside that 'recycle' symbol. Chris Re: Plastic containers Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to lead to lung cancer... Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. Randie > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years now and > nothing wrong. > > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Go to a beer supply store and buy some beer bottles, or else buy them online. CMR Re: Plastic containers > > > Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to > lead to lung cancer... > > Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is > wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. > > Randie > > > > > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years > now and > > nothing wrong. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Thanks all I don't know why I didn't think of that DUH LOL -- Re: Plastic containers Go to a beer supply store and buy some beer bottles, or else buy them online. CMR Re: Plastic containers > > > Most often it takes 20 to 30 years, sometimes longer, for smoking to > lead to lung cancer... > > Duration doesn't necessarily mean nothing is happening or nothing is > wrong. Symptoms quite often don't show up until it's too late. > > Randie > > > > > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years > now and > > nothing wrong. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I have put my brewed tea in plastic jugs (like you get distilled water in) > > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years > now and > > nothing wrong. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I have put my brewed tea in plastic jugs (like you get distilled water in) > > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 years > now and > > nothing wrong. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 At least in the US, why take any chance when glass containers are so common? Tim ldyinanna <ldyinanna@...> wrote: Thanks all I don't know why I didn't think of that DUH LOL -- Re: Plastic containers Go to a beer supply store and buy some beer bottles, or else buy them online. CMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 If you go to www.mercola.com and do a search on plastic bottles, you will find why storing water in plastic jugs is not safe. KT is worse because it is acidic. Re: Plastic containers >I have put my brewed tea in plastic jugs (like you get distilled > water in) > > > > >> > My Father-in-law has been drinking KT out of plastic for 10-15 > years >> now and >> > nothing wrong. >> > >> > Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 In message <d82h7b+73greGroups> you wrote: > In my school days the acid that was stored in glass was very > concentrated such as Nitric, Hydrocloric, and other nasty big burn > stuff if got on ones skin. > Surly the acids that we are talking about here is realy not so > caustic otherwise we would not be drinking it. > I would agree that glass would be best, but it is not easily to > obtain suitable glass containers for KT. So we have to use the next > best and cheapest thing. > I am new to KT but I also feel sure that the many people on here > that have been useing 'Plastic' for their brews for some time are > still alive and well. > Sauce that contains citric acid (Vinegar) is now contained in > plastic bottles. (I just checked HP sauce is stored in a triangle 5 > plastic bottle). Thanks for making all those points, Malcolm, as they were exactly the things that were on my mind, too. So I don't have to write them out agaim. :-) Margret -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... www.therpc.f9.co.uk +---------------------------------------------------------------+ We learn to pray by praying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Yes, and there are many smokers who have lived happy healthy lives. However, I doubt you recommend a person stop being paranoied and start smoking! Just a thought... :-) Randie > And then again, I've seen people that have never smoked that died of lung > cancer. > > You live, you'll die and paranoia won't help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Didn't know that I said that. WOW! To help you out, I meant that if your going to be paranoid over every little thing you do won't make life that much fun to live. Maybe I should have explained myself a little better. Chris Re: Plastic containers Yes, and there are many smokers who have lived happy healthy lives. However, I doubt you recommend a person stop being paranoied and start smoking! Just a thought... :-) Randie > And then again, I've seen people that have never smoked that died of lung > cancer. > > You live, you'll die and paranoia won't help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Amen. Most of the bad things we consume take a while to affect our health. I prefer glass and have little problems finding glass containers, vinegar. ready made tea... some soft drinks... beer bottles... wine bottles...etc From: sudsup Date: 06/07/05 07:06:11 kombucha tea Subject: Re: Plastic containers Yes, and there are many smokers who have lived happy healthy lives. However, I doubt you recommend a person stop being paranoied and start smoking! Just a thought... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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