Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Hi Jim, I did Dr. 's parasite cleanse. When I started I'd been bedridden for about 2 months with flu that was intense and I just couldn't get over it--my immune system had been wrecked by a whole year of antibiotics for Lyme disease. (No more men in white coats for me, thank you very much.) With a week I started eliminating parasites and my energy began improving immediately. I stayed on the cleanse for about 6 weeks instead of the recommended 18 days, as I was still eliminating parasites. I also did the kidney and liver cleanse during that time. I went from bedridden to being able to actually go for walks, do the housework, cook, etc, in a matter of a few weeks. It was very, very beneficial for me and I highly recommend it. However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. Good luck with your cleanse! Peggy >>has anyone done the cleanse by dr. clark?,>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Hi Jim, I did Dr. 's parasite cleanse. When I started I'd been bedridden for about 2 months with flu that was intense and I just couldn't get over it--my immune system had been wrecked by a whole year of antibiotics for Lyme disease. (No more men in white coats for me, thank you very much.) With a week I started eliminating parasites and my energy began improving immediately. I stayed on the cleanse for about 6 weeks instead of the recommended 18 days, as I was still eliminating parasites. I also did the kidney and liver cleanse during that time. I went from bedridden to being able to actually go for walks, do the housework, cook, etc, in a matter of a few weeks. It was very, very beneficial for me and I highly recommend it. However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. Good luck with your cleanse! Peggy >>has anyone done the cleanse by dr. clark?,>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. >> Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those three weeks were horrible. And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different cleansing is still there. I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. Does Homozon kill all parasites? As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. >> Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those three weeks were horrible. And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different cleansing is still there. I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. Does Homozon kill all parasites? As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 << You may very well have a tapeworm in the transverse colon. Feed that sucker some nice wormwood. >> Thank you Saul; I have been overdosing on it. Just the thought of taking it again makes me gag. How much of this can they take before they croak? Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 << You may very well have a tapeworm in the transverse colon. Feed that sucker some nice wormwood. >> Thank you Saul; I have been overdosing on it. Just the thought of taking it again makes me gag. How much of this can they take before they croak? Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 if you get on the proper diet for your body-- parasites will die of their own accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 if you get on the proper diet for your body-- parasites will die of their own accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Christel, I know you have done a lot of cleansing and used a lot of products to regain your health. I do think it could be a tape worm. I know when the one I passed was dying, it was visible as my belly moved just like I was pregnant and a baby kicked. You know how a person can see a baby kick inside a mother's belly? That is what it looked like when this worm was dying. I passed large pieces of it over several days. As you might remember, I went on the Sonne's cleanse for almost a solid month, the last two weeks a LOT of black walnut tincture orally 5 times a day preceded by sweet apple juice 1/2 hour before taking the black walnut tincture, and at least two 5 gallon buckets (home colema board) of garlic water. I followed this month immediately by the Awareness cleanse. That seemed to kill that nasty varmint. I have since learned of RASCAL, have you tried it? Also of the Olive Leaf Extract, both, I have heard wonderful things about, but never tried myself. Have you tried them? ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: parasite cleanse << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. >> Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those three weeks were horrible. And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different cleansing is still there. I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. Does Homozon kill all parasites? As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Christel, I know you have done a lot of cleansing and used a lot of products to regain your health. I do think it could be a tape worm. I know when the one I passed was dying, it was visible as my belly moved just like I was pregnant and a baby kicked. You know how a person can see a baby kick inside a mother's belly? That is what it looked like when this worm was dying. I passed large pieces of it over several days. As you might remember, I went on the Sonne's cleanse for almost a solid month, the last two weeks a LOT of black walnut tincture orally 5 times a day preceded by sweet apple juice 1/2 hour before taking the black walnut tincture, and at least two 5 gallon buckets (home colema board) of garlic water. I followed this month immediately by the Awareness cleanse. That seemed to kill that nasty varmint. I have since learned of RASCAL, have you tried it? Also of the Olive Leaf Extract, both, I have heard wonderful things about, but never tried myself. Have you tried them? ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: parasite cleanse << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend against this. >> Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those three weeks were horrible. And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different cleansing is still there. I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. Does Homozon kill all parasites? As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Dear Christel, Homozon does NOT eliminate parasites. It may take out a few eggs, but it is not a substitute for a proper parasite cleanse. Black walnut hulls, wormwood and cloves. There is no other way. You may very well have a tapeworm in the transverse colon. Feed that sucker some nice wormwood. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Re: parasite cleanse > > > << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, > in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It > made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of > swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend > against this. > >> > Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those > three weeks were horrible. > And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as > you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots > until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. > The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different > cleansing is still there. > I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache > is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have > to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was > doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One > question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the > way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always > there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. > Does Homozon kill all parasites? > As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too > until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. > Christel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Dear Christel, Homozon does NOT eliminate parasites. It may take out a few eggs, but it is not a substitute for a proper parasite cleanse. Black walnut hulls, wormwood and cloves. There is no other way. You may very well have a tapeworm in the transverse colon. Feed that sucker some nice wormwood. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Re: parasite cleanse > > > << However, I emphatically do not recommend her so-called " mop-up " program, > in which you use cysteine and ozonated olive oil every day for 3 weeks. It > made me really sick, I lost weight, and I still can't abide the thought of > swallowing olive oil. I believe some others on the list will also recommend > against this. > >> > Peggy,as you know I second that statement. Not that I lost weight but those > three weeks were horrible. > And now we are both riding out the high doses of Homozon. I am not sick as > you are. Today is my first day with 10tsp per day. After having the trots > until now I have not been able to eliminate anything since noon yesterday. > The problem I had and have tried to eliminate with 6 month of different > cleansing is still there. > I am bloated, unable to eat and have extreme headaches. I know the headache > is due to toxin release. But the pressure is way high in my stomach. I have > to lay flat or stand up, can't sit. I don't know what to make of it. Was > doing so good up until now eliminating all kinds of junk and creatures. One > question remains. Would it be possible to have a large tapeworm blocking the > way? I know it sounds stupid but the noise in my transverse colon is always > there, and only there, constant rumbling. And sometimes I feel sharp stings. > Does Homozon kill all parasites? > As it is right now I will not increase my intake. May have to cut back too > until things ease up. Hopefully that will happen soon. > Christel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 It is my opinion tha ozonated olive oil is rancid and loaded with free radicals. I tested for liver enzymes(released by cell damage) and they were unusually high, directly afterward. Reason for teating was because of feeling and looking ill, immediately afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 It is my opinion tha ozonated olive oil is rancid and loaded with free radicals. I tested for liver enzymes(released by cell damage) and they were unusually high, directly afterward. Reason for teating was because of feeling and looking ill, immediately afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 To clarify; I think ozonated olive oil is very good externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 To clarify; I think ozonated olive oil is very good externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Saul, How would one take >Black walnut hulls, >wormwood and cloves. There is no other way. > I have them all in tincture.. Can I take them all at the same time?? Thanks Amal _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Saul, How would one take >Black walnut hulls, >wormwood and cloves. There is no other way. > I have them all in tincture.. Can I take them all at the same time?? Thanks Amal _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 << if you get on the proper diet for your body-- parasites will die of their own accord. >> And what diet would that be? I tried to kill mine with parasite herbs,a diet of no carbs,no dairy,no sugar, no meat, juicing raw only. lots of garlic and cayenne. A lot of them responded but not the tapeworm if that is what I have. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 << if you get on the proper diet for your body-- parasites will die of their own accord. >> And what diet would that be? I tried to kill mine with parasite herbs,a diet of no carbs,no dairy,no sugar, no meat, juicing raw only. lots of garlic and cayenne. A lot of them responded but not the tapeworm if that is what I have. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 what would the right diet for you be? thats a good question-- it's an individual thing...and it might change daily for you. for worms i think the best way to go about it is slow and steady. on the correct diet your colon will clean itself out. as the colon cleans itself, worms will be exposed to the outer layer as food passes through. you made the assumption that the diet you were on was the best one for you which may not be the case, and probably isn't the case since worms are still present. some ideas: white sugar is good to eliminate. your immune system might need some form of meat. and it also might need some form of dairy. some carbs might also be necessary. food choices based on dogma imo are a BAD way to go. eat food based upon how you feel. everything that happens in the body is a communication to your conscious mind. so that you are aware that you have a tapeworm still living in you is a sign that something else needs to be done that you aren't doing now. how food is cooked is also relevant. if you go all raw for too long-- you might be weakening your organs by cleansing too fast and not rebuilding. you might want to try raw dairy or different forms of dairy. if your colon is impacted, then lots of fat will be needed to lubricate the waste as it is ready to move out. certain foods are strongly antiparasitic if added to the diet daily like green pumpkin seeds, pineapple, papaya, garlic, most bitter foods in general. for supplements, pancreatic enzymes will chew up waste and worms. black walnut is just one of hundreds of anti-parasitics. and worms become adapted to certain substances so you have to rotate. in hindsight -- during my worm cleansings, i wouldn't have been so focused on the worms specifically. i would rather be more focused on keeping my immune system strong in all of its many facets. if this is done over a long period of time, then the worms will go away with more ease. mr vonderplanitz has a theory that worms are there as part of our natural eco-system, to chew up waste in our colons when it is impacted. i don't know whether i completely agree, but it does make alot of sense. in a healthy colon worms will not thrive. so you might want to consider strengthening your colon instead. some form(s) of proper bacteria through fermented dairy(yogurt , kefir), vegetables (sauerkraut, kim chi), or supplementation. the colon is a muscle which some people do not acknowledge, and as such needs to be fed as a muscle would be fed. i find that eating like a bodybuilder makes my colon strong (doesn't mean it will work for you since everyone is different). if your muscles are generally weak-- don't expect your colon to fight off a tapeworm some other helpful substances might be msm, whey, goat milk, raw cow milk, fresh pineapple juice (i challenge any worm to live in an environment of fresh pineapple juice). also, your liver has to be strong enough to handle the toxins released by the parasite. when your liver is not strong enough your body will not let you kill parasites-- especially large ones. i would just go on my merry way and keep colon cleansing and keep the colon and liver and other organs strong, and it will die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 what would the right diet for you be? thats a good question-- it's an individual thing...and it might change daily for you. for worms i think the best way to go about it is slow and steady. on the correct diet your colon will clean itself out. as the colon cleans itself, worms will be exposed to the outer layer as food passes through. you made the assumption that the diet you were on was the best one for you which may not be the case, and probably isn't the case since worms are still present. some ideas: white sugar is good to eliminate. your immune system might need some form of meat. and it also might need some form of dairy. some carbs might also be necessary. food choices based on dogma imo are a BAD way to go. eat food based upon how you feel. everything that happens in the body is a communication to your conscious mind. so that you are aware that you have a tapeworm still living in you is a sign that something else needs to be done that you aren't doing now. how food is cooked is also relevant. if you go all raw for too long-- you might be weakening your organs by cleansing too fast and not rebuilding. you might want to try raw dairy or different forms of dairy. if your colon is impacted, then lots of fat will be needed to lubricate the waste as it is ready to move out. certain foods are strongly antiparasitic if added to the diet daily like green pumpkin seeds, pineapple, papaya, garlic, most bitter foods in general. for supplements, pancreatic enzymes will chew up waste and worms. black walnut is just one of hundreds of anti-parasitics. and worms become adapted to certain substances so you have to rotate. in hindsight -- during my worm cleansings, i wouldn't have been so focused on the worms specifically. i would rather be more focused on keeping my immune system strong in all of its many facets. if this is done over a long period of time, then the worms will go away with more ease. mr vonderplanitz has a theory that worms are there as part of our natural eco-system, to chew up waste in our colons when it is impacted. i don't know whether i completely agree, but it does make alot of sense. in a healthy colon worms will not thrive. so you might want to consider strengthening your colon instead. some form(s) of proper bacteria through fermented dairy(yogurt , kefir), vegetables (sauerkraut, kim chi), or supplementation. the colon is a muscle which some people do not acknowledge, and as such needs to be fed as a muscle would be fed. i find that eating like a bodybuilder makes my colon strong (doesn't mean it will work for you since everyone is different). if your muscles are generally weak-- don't expect your colon to fight off a tapeworm some other helpful substances might be msm, whey, goat milk, raw cow milk, fresh pineapple juice (i challenge any worm to live in an environment of fresh pineapple juice). also, your liver has to be strong enough to handle the toxins released by the parasite. when your liver is not strong enough your body will not let you kill parasites-- especially large ones. i would just go on my merry way and keep colon cleansing and keep the colon and liver and other organs strong, and it will die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 AAlltogether, If I am not mistaken, the liver enzymes released by cell damage are also released in the process of repair. jim alltogethernow@... wrote: > > It is my opinion tha ozonated olive oil is rancid and loaded with free > radicals. I tested for liver enzymes(released by cell damage) and they > were unusually high, directly afterward. > Reason for teating was because of feeling and looking ill, > immediately afterward. ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 AAlltogether, If I am not mistaken, the liver enzymes released by cell damage are also released in the process of repair. jim alltogethernow@... wrote: > > It is my opinion tha ozonated olive oil is rancid and loaded with free > radicals. I tested for liver enzymes(released by cell damage) and they > were unusually high, directly afterward. > Reason for teating was because of feeling and looking ill, > immediately afterward. ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Dear Christel, Usually two weeks worth of it does the trick. Are you sure you have got the right stuff in your bottle? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Re: parasite cleanse > > > << You may very well have a tapeworm in the transverse colon. > Feed that sucker some nice wormwood. > >> > Thank you Saul; > I have been overdosing on it. Just the thought of taking it again makes me > gag. > How much of this can they take before they croak? > Christel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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