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In a message dated 8/25/01 11:28:19 AM Mountain Daylight Time, tazztp@...

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Hey everybody. I'm new to the group and also fairly new to er4yt. I

don't yet know if I am a secretor or not. My concern is: I started

this diet in June and have lost 20 lbs but now I have reached this

awful plateau that I cant get away from. I still have 20 more lbs to

go. Can anyone please give me some suggestions for continueing my

loss. I ordered the bladderwack from the doc's website and just

started it today, but i need more info. pleeeeeeease help.

Thanks O+ in NC

,

Congratulations on your weight loss. I am a type O and had a terrible time

losing any weight. And I wish that I only had 20 pounds to lose. However I

looked into the I Love Dieting Program and it is wonderful. I have lost

almost 30 pounds in seven weeks, even with surgery and a general anesthetic

which really threw off my system for a couple of weeks. I am eating tons of

food and have never been able to eat all that I am allowed. It is a healthy

program and I am able to remain ER compliant for my type. And I know for the

first time in my life, that when this weight is gone, it will be gone for

good. My system is becoming balanced and handling all that I eat properly.

If you are interested go to the I Love Dieting website below for more

information. Use " diet " and " diet " for the passwords. Order the tape and

booklet and when you get it, I will be happy to answer any of your questions

or help you out all I can.

Pam in ID

check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

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I'm also new to the group, am about to start changing my diet (type

O), and am concerned about the red meat in the " highly beneficial "

list. I haven't eaten red meat in over 20 years, however I do eat

poultry and fish/seafood. Will it still work for me?

Also, in looking at the ILD web site, I noticed you must use Shaklee

products to do this. Whenever I've been on a strict regimen for

whatever " diet " , it's fine. It's after I get off and have to eat

normal food that my weight reverts. How can the ILD work with ER4YT?

I don't understand. Should I lurk in the group for awhile and " all

will become clear " ?

Thanks, elp

> In a message dated 8/25/01 11:28:19 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

tazztp@a...

> writes:

> Hey everybody. I'm new to the group and also fairly new to

er4yt. I

> don't yet know if I am a secretor or not. My concern is: I started

> this diet in June and have lost 20 lbs but now I have reached this

> awful plateau that I cant get away from. I still have 20 more lbs

to

> go. Can anyone please give me some suggestions for continueing my

> loss. I ordered the bladderwack from the doc's website and just

> started it today, but i need more info. pleeeeeeease

help.

>

>

> Thanks O+ in NC

>

> ,

>

> Congratulations on your weight loss. I am a type O and had a

terrible time

> losing any weight. And I wish that I only had 20 pounds to lose.

However I

> looked into the I Love Dieting Program and it is wonderful. I have

lost

> almost 30 pounds in seven weeks, even with surgery and a general

anesthetic

> which really threw off my system for a couple of weeks. I am

eating tons of

> food and have never been able to eat all that I am allowed. It is

a healthy

> program and I am able to remain ER compliant for my type. And I

know for the

> first time in my life, that when this weight is gone, it will be

gone for

> good. My system is becoming balanced and handling all that I eat

properly.

> If you are interested go to the I Love Dieting website below for

more

> information. Use " diet " and " diet " for the passwords. Order the

tape and

> booklet and when you get it, I will be happy to answer any of your

questions

> or help you out all I can.

>

> Pam in ID

> check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

> <A

HREF= " http://www.shaklee.net/For_Your_Health " >http://www.shaklee.net/F

or_Your_Health</A>

>

>

>

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I too am O. I had almost completely eliminated the red meat from my diet

for years because I thought that was what was upsetting my stomach. When I

went on the ILD, I was hesitant about all that red meat. Guess what, as it

turned out, it wasn't the red meat that was bothering my stomach - it was

the potatoes, etc. that I had with the meat. Maybe you will need to

incorporate red meat slowly back into your diet. Obviously you can eat the

neutrals, but the HBs are still better for you. I also am on the ILD. What

I am finding is that I am slowly changing most of my bad eating habits to

good ones. Reading over all the testimonies, the recurrent theme is that

most people do not put the weight back on because they have learned better

eating habits. I, for one, want that to happen to me also. I have been

unable on any other program to loses weight but ILD really works for me.

AND I really do feel better eating this way then I ever did before.

Regarding " normal " food eating after the ILD, if you follow ER, you will be

eating " normal " food on and off of ILD.

I say " jump in " - you'll love it!!!

Kathie

O+ S

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Re: losing weight

I'm also new to the group, am about to start changing my diet (type

O), and am concerned about the red meat in the " highly beneficial "

list. I haven't eaten red meat in over 20 years, however I do eat

poultry and fish/seafood. Will it still work for me?

Also, in looking at the ILD web site, I noticed you must use Shaklee

products to do this. Whenever I've been on a strict regimen for

whatever " diet " , it's fine. It's after I get off and have to eat

normal food that my weight reverts. How can the ILD work with ER4YT?

I don't understand. Should I lurk in the group for awhile and " all

will become clear " ?

Thanks, elp

> In a message dated 8/25/01 11:28:19 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

tazztp@a...

> writes:

> Hey everybody. I'm new to the group and also fairly new to

er4yt. I

> don't yet know if I am a secretor or not. My concern is: I started

> this diet in June and have lost 20 lbs but now I have reached this

> awful plateau that I cant get away from. I still have 20 more lbs

to

> go. Can anyone please give me some suggestions for continueing my

> loss. I ordered the bladderwack from the doc's website and just

> started it today, but i need more info. pleeeeeeease

help.

>

>

> Thanks O+ in NC

>

> ,

>

> Congratulations on your weight loss. I am a type O and had a

terrible time

> losing any weight. And I wish that I only had 20 pounds to lose.

However I

> looked into the I Love Dieting Program and it is wonderful. I have

lost

> almost 30 pounds in seven weeks, even with surgery and a general

anesthetic

> which really threw off my system for a couple of weeks. I am

eating tons of

> food and have never been able to eat all that I am allowed. It is

a healthy

> program and I am able to remain ER compliant for my type. And I

know for the

> first time in my life, that when this weight is gone, it will be

gone for

> good. My system is becoming balanced and handling all that I eat

properly.

> If you are interested go to the I Love Dieting website below for

more

> information. Use " diet " and " diet " for the passwords. Order the

tape and

> booklet and when you get it, I will be happy to answer any of your

questions

> or help you out all I can.

>

> Pam in ID

> check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

> <A

HREF= " http://www.shaklee.net/For_Your_Health " >http://www.shaklee.net/F

or_Your_Health</A>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 8/25/01 1:42:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

elongp@... writes:

Also, in looking at the ILD web site, I noticed you must use Shaklee

products to do this. Whenever I've been on a strict regimen for

whatever " diet " , it's fine. It's after I get off and have to eat

normal food that my weight reverts. How can the ILD work with ER4YT?

I don't understand. Should I lurk in the group for awhile and " all

will become clear " ?

That is one of the wonderful things about ILD. It works you back into the

real world very nicely. In the meantime, your system has been balanced so

you do not crave the sugars and carbohydrates you ate before. Please order

the booklet and tape and you will see how great it truly is. You eat good

food every day and I have stayed 98 - 100% compliant to my ER lists. It is

just a matter of choosing your foods. Believe me, the two work very well

together. There is even a ER4YT-ILD list that you can join once you have

started. It is a small but wonderful group and we are all doing very well. I

lost about 75% of the pain in my body the first two weeks on the program. I

have FMS and arthritis. I have had a bilateral hip replacement and have not

been able to walk correctly for almost 4 years. By the end of two weeks on

the program my chiropractor was totally amazed at the difference. Give the

program a try. I know you won't be sorry. Keep in touch and let me know

what you think.

Pam in ID

check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

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In a message dated 8/25/01 3:09:54 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

webfantasy@... writes:

The thing about LR and ER is that if you eat foods that are good for you and

avoid foods

that are bad for you that you will naturally slim down (not necessarily be

skinny) the aim here

is for healthiness. One thing I've noticed for O's is that if you follow the

diet properly you

will be consuming way less carbs - which of course is an evil in most weight

gain. sigh.

Cystal,

Golly gee, I wish that were so with all of us. I followed LR4YT for over a

year. And I was 95% compliant. And I had next to no weight loss. However I

didn't gain, so that was a good thing. And I felt good with no digestive

problems, however I never had many to speak of. I will stay on LR4YT

forever, since I truly believe it the program. But within two weeks on ILD,

I lost 75% of my chronic pain and over 10 pounds. There is something in the

program that has really worked for hundreds of people. ILD works very well

with ER4YT and for those who have not had the weight loss they would like, I

can sure recommend using both programs at the same time. I have been on it

for 7 weeks and have lost almost 30 pounds. It is a healthy diet, balances

out your system to stop the cravings and allows those of us with severe

weight problems to become normal again. I think that both programs are valid

and for some people, both programs may be the answer to a life long problem.

Since both programs are very healthy, why not give them both a try if there

is a weight issue?

Pam in ID

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E Long wrote:

> I'm also new to the group, am about to start changing my diet (type

> O), and am concerned about the red meat in the " highly beneficial "

> list. I haven't eaten red meat in over 20 years, however I do eat

> poultry and fish/seafood. Will it still work for me?

Yes there are even vegetarians (tho not recommended) - red meat is supposed to

be good for you

but the most important thing is to get the protein and stuff you need.

> Also, in looking at the ILD web site, I noticed you must use Shaklee

> products to do this. Whenever I've been on a strict regimen for

> whatever " diet " , it's fine. It's after I get off and have to eat

> normal food that my weight reverts. How can the ILD work with ER4YT?

> I don't understand. Should I lurk in the group for awhile and " all

> will become clear " ?

> Thanks, elp

FWIW the ILD has NOTHING to do with ER4YT and LR4YT... its just some people are

incorporating it in with their LR strategy. You can do one without the other

and vice versa.

The thing about LR and ER is that if you eat foods that are good for you and

avoid foods

that are bad for you that you will naturally slim down (not necessarily be

skinny) the aim here

is for healthiness. One thing I've noticed for O's is that if you follow the

diet properly you

will be consuming way less carbs - which of course is an evil in most weight

gain. sigh.

HTH

Crystal.

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Sharpcats@... wrote:

> I think that both programs are valid

> and for some people, both programs may be the answer to a life long problem.

> Since both programs are very healthy, why not give them both a try if there

> is a weight issue?

I didn't say not to try it :) she just sounded like she might have thought they

were part of a whole program - LOL I'm trying

the mid-low carb thing myself as I have a zillion pounds to lose sigh ...

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webfantasy@... writes:

> I didn't say not to try it :) she just sounded like she might have thought

> they were part of a whole program - LOL I'm trying

> the mid-low carb thing myself as I have a zillion pounds to lose sigh ...

>

> ,

I sure know how that feels. However a zillion is a bit much! LOL I wish

you luck. If you don't lose enough to suit you, look into I Love Dieting.

It has removed all the carb cravings from my system and I was truly the Queen

of the Carbohydrate Lovers. Don't feel alone out there. I had about 100

pounds to lose when I started which is at least a zillion on your scale! I

wish you luck.

Pam in ID

check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

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In a message dated 8/27/01 4:32:00 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

webfantasy@... writes:

> I had about 100

> pounds to lose when I started which is at least a zillion on your scale! I

> wish you luck.

Nope only about 1/2 zillion :) :) :) and ty :)

There are posts of people on the ILD site who have lost 250 pounds. I think

that any of us can lose all that we need to lose, if we are willing to give

it a fair try.

Pam in ID

check out this website http://www.ilovedieting.com

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In a message dated 10/31/2002 11:56:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

az1home@... writes:

<< Also does anyone have a receipe for pie crusts for pumpkin pies. >>

I bought pans to make the pumpkin pie without the crusts. Wasn't too bad.

Max

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hey - I'm goodlooking too - although I'm not slim !

Pumpkinpyecrust:

take any recipe of other crusts you like, but substitute with speltflour -

don't forget to put some egg and oliveoil into the dough, spelt doesn't

stick so well otherwhise

love

az1home wrote:

> Hi everyone just a tid bit. I just found out that two of my

> daughters are going to have children one in June and another in

> July. That would make a grand total of 4 grandchildren. The best

> news of that is by then I will be a good looking slim downed grandma.

> Also does anyone have a receipe for pie crusts for pumpkin pies. My

> family loves them and I would like to have a piece if its not to

> fattening. oh by the way Iam only 44.

>

>

>

>

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- you still need to give me your list.

Love

Re: Losing Weight

hey - I'm goodlooking too - although I'm not slim !

Pumpkinpyecrust:

take any recipe of other crusts you like, but substitute with speltflour

-

don't forget to put some egg and oliveoil into the dough, spelt doesn't

stick so well otherwhise

love

az1home wrote:

> Hi everyone just a tid bit. I just found out that two of my

> daughters are going to have children one in June and another in

> July. That would make a grand total of 4 grandchildren. The best

> news of that is by then I will be a good looking slim downed grandma.

> Also does anyone have a receipe for pie crusts for pumpkin pies. My

> family loves them and I would like to have a piece if its not to

> fattening. oh by the way Iam only 44.

>

>

>

>

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The only diet that worked for me and made me lose weight was the Diabetics'

diet. It is the one with exchange lists. It measures the amount of carbs/fats,

etc. that one takes each meal. The hospitals' diabetic clinics/centers have

this exchange list booklet.

Losing weight

nna wrote:

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:40:40 -0000

From: " julianna " <jaxthecat1234@...>

> I just came across this information and would like to discuss in greater

> detail. Have had a extreme difficult time losing weight. Go to the gym on

a

> regular basis, follow Adkins but still no luck. Have many of the symptoms of

> Hypothyroid condition (pending testing). Can anyone share their experiences

> with coconut oil and losing weight? Any information will be appreciated

> considerably. thanks

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

nna, There is no one 'formula' that works for everyone, but I can tell

you my story. I'm hypothyroid, have fibromyalgia, am overweight,

postmenopausal and have had extreme difficulty losing weight for several

reasons.

Had to take cortisone for 1 year in 1989. Slowed my metabolism. I had a

hysterectomy in 1983 and was given Premarin (estrogen) without any thought

to hormone balance (i.e. progesterone, DHEA, testosterone, cortisol,

thyroid). Hormone imbalance. I've done a few successful diets, but

regained the weight, and as a result my weight has yo-yoed, creating a

higher 'set point' each time. And I had a total mastectomy for breast

cancer in August 2003. So I am very concerned with eating properly and

preventing further cancers.

I've been to a doctor who has personally recovered from CFS (chronic fatigue

syndrome), and who now treats FM, CFS, and post-polio patients whose

metabolism has stalled. Her philosophy is that most of us are not getting

enough calories to repair the body. In other words, we are eating too

little. And her strategy is to gradually increase calories in a particular

ratio of fats/protein/carbs. I found her particular method difficult and

did not stick with it long enough to see results.

I'm now interested in the strategy outlined in " Turn Up The Heat - Unlock

the fat-burning power of your metabolism " -

Author: Philip Goglia - ISBN:0670030856

Goglia is the founder of Performance Fitness Concepts in Los Angeles. He is

a registered nutritionist for more than 20 years, and is a board member of

Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Beverly Hills and City of Hope board of

governors in Los Angeles. He has " more than 250,000 clients worldwide.

Despite what many modern diets tell us, weight is not genetically

predetermined, and exercise alone will not make you thin. "

The theory is much the same as the medical doctor I saw, with an added

factor. Goglia has found that some people burn fats and protein

efficiently, but not carbs. Some burn carbs efficiently, but not fats and

protein. And a very small percentage burn fats, protein and carbs

efficiently. In other words, he helps you discover which metabolic type you

are and to customize your food and exercise programs according to your

body's needs. His book helps you do that.

For example, if you are an efficient carb burner, and inefficient

fat/protein burner, the Atkins diet will not do a thing for you. Goglia

structures diet according to metabolic type, and combines it with physical

exercise.

I personally believe that dieting alone will not be successful either. That

it must be combined with exercise, according to ability and type of exercise

(both weight bearing and aerobic).

The bottom line is that we must burn fat, not muscle for energy. If you are

not an efficient fat burner, you will not lose weight by using coconut oil.

If you are an efficient fat burner, you may be one of those who can lose

weight while using the oil.

Be leary of global claims by any diet regimen that their way will work for

'you'. Find out what works for you.

I know... way too long,

ciao,

-- Joan McPhee, MH, WT

mailto:mcpheej@... --

MH = Master Herbalist

WT = Wholistic Therapist

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Hu na and welcome to the forum!

I've written a few times about how I lost weight and so as mot to repeat myself

I am reposting the two messages I posted to the forum last year, which tell the

story of how I lost weight with coconut oil. I know in the meantime that it does

not work for everyone, though.

regards,

Sharon

My rediscovery (of coconut oil) came around Easter this year when I was trying

to

lose weight and tried everything but couldn't. The moment I started

using coconut oil the weight began to melt off. It was amazing. Soon

I was down 20 pounds, and a pair of pre-pregnancy pants I had not

worn for 20 years but had not wanted to throw away because I liked

them so much were fitting me again!

After that initial meltdown i reached a plateau and seemed not to be

moving any more (my goal is just 5 pounds more). During the summer

holidays I was rather anxious as I went to the USA and on a cruise

and could not keep to cooking with my precious oil. On the cruise

they told us that the average weight gain is 1 pound a day! Soemhow

though I managed to carry a little bottle around with me and add it

to the food.

I stayed with a friend and again I had my little bottle at

mealtimes. She saw it on the floor next to my feet and thought I was

secretly drinking vodka! But when I told her she was an easy convert

and began using it too.

I was afraid to go onthe scales after I came back home but I noticed

my waistband was not any tighter. And when I did weigh myself I had

not gained.

I still lose weight, but more slowly. It doesn't show up so much as

pounds but as inches. Those favourite pants now have a three inch

gap at the waist and I will have to get rid of them anyway - they

are too big!

I also have loads of energy and feel fantastic!

so that's my story.

Re: Introductions?

(in reply to a questioon)

Well - yes and no. For six weeks before I started coconut oil I had been

trying to lose weight the usual way - cutting down on food. I was on a fruit

diet, a cabbage soup diet, a Master Cleanse diet, you name it, I did it,

non-stop. And nothing happened.

In the week before I started on coconut oil I was on a water fast. I had not

eaten for five days - just water and lime juice. I remember it so well - the

despair because in spite of these drastic measures I was not losing weight. I

had planned to stay on that fast for 10 days, but on the fifth day I had to

drive 8 hours from England to Germany and my daughter begged me to eat on that

day, because she was afraid I would faint or something on the way, or just get

too tired! So that - a Wednesday, the Wednesday before Easter - was the day I

started eating again, this time with coconut oil. While I was in Germany I kept

on eating, cooking everything with cocontut oil. I wasn't eating much, mind you

- definitely low-carb, and lots of fruit and vegetables. But far more than I had

been eating in the six weeks previously. I did not have any expectations at all

- since nothing had worked till now I had given up. I returned to England that

weekend and on the Sunday I went on the scales for the first time since strating

to eat again. And I was five pounds lighter than on Wednesday.

After that it just kept dropping off. I had never been a bog eater and always

a healthy one though I used to use things like soy productrs and unsaturated

oils - thinking them to be healthy. I cut all that out, like Bruce Fife said .

Read Eat Fat Look Thin - I basically followed those instructions. So I had

certainly changed much of my eating habits along with the coconut oil. But I

know it was the oil that did the trick because I just felt all this energy -

nothing like it in the 30 years previously!

The coconut oil also helped me to feel really satisfied, reduced my cravings -

I could go for longer without food.

hope this helps,

Sharon

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Weight Watchers is a great plan that does not require excercise.

> Hello:

>

> I am a achrondroplasia dwarf of 4'3 and have been in a wheelchair for

> four years now. I had back surgery back in 03' and can no longer walk

> I have Periferial Neuorapathy(sp).. Anyway since I have been

> wheelchair bound I have gained about 30 pounds.. Please tell me how

> can I lose this extra weight??

>

> Thanks to all and Happy New Year!!!

>

>

>

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I was doing some research and I ran across this site and I thought

some might find this helpful for the people that are in the

wheelchairs. And the person that posted about doing excersises in

their chair.

http://www.hotexercise.com/wheelchair-bound/wheelchair-bound/

http://exercise.about.com/cs/exdisabilities/a/disabilities.htm

Thank you,

Danny

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Hey all,

Back to the thread about weight, I absolutely love

Weight Watchers! It is great for those that cannot be

physically active. It is all about the way you eat, it

is NOT a diet, it's a life style change. It teaches

you how to eat properly. I am a big believer in

attending the meetings as well. I started weight

watchers about two years ago, I was 110 pounds, I was

not obese but wayyy to heavy. I stopped six months

later and was down to 93 lbs. From two Junes ago to

last Dec I did go up to 100, but with getting good

sleep, really focusing on what I am eating, and being

as physically active as my body lets me I'm down to

87lbs!

I am boney and it is a weird feeling but it rocks! I

love my weight and I am on a conceeded high but I

earned it! lol

If you gained 30 pounds you really need to look at

what you are eating. Increase big time your fruits

and veggies, when hungry go for protein snacks, meats

nuts, cheeses. Substitute items for fat free or low

fat. Do not skip meals or eat one big one a day. The

more you eat throughout the day the better off you

are. The less you eat the slower your metabolism

becomes which means you'll start putting on the

pounds. Lastly you can still have cookies, pies,

chips, but make them the least amount of your food

intake daily.

Good luck everyone!

:)

--- danny <zeb8745@...> wrote:

>

> I was doing some research and I ran across this

> site and I thought

> some might find this helpful for the people that are

> in the

> wheelchairs. And the person that posted about doing

> excersises in

> their chair.

>

>

>

>

http://www.hotexercise.com/wheelchair-bound/wheelchair-bound/

>

>

http://exercise.about.com/cs/exdisabilities/a/disabilities.htm

>

> Thank you,

> Danny

>

>

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I am going to throw in my two cents about the losing weight thing.

Here is what a naturopathic doctor would tell you. You do not want to lose weight you want to lose inches. In fact you want to gain weight (remember I am not overweight but I weigh 180 at 5'7"). When you lose weight you lose bone mass and muscle mass. Something you do not want to do. It is the inches and fat you want to lose while building up your muscle mass and bone mass. This is achieved by cutting out all processed carbs. NO wheat. None. Zip. Nada. Not a bit. No grains. Can have rice. I would also cut out all potato. No sugar. None. Nada. Zip. Lot's of veggies (no peas). NO corn. None. Corn is so genetically modified it does not even resemble the corn of our grandparents. Alter cells in the brain and is just starch. NO juice. Just sugar. Fruit and protein. You can have good fats. Butter, Olive oil, Coconut Oil. The other oils in the store are rancid before you even get them home. Kill B

vitamins in the body. Do not limit your protein sizes. If you scrimp on protein your body will take it from your muscle and organs. You would be surprise what a yummy diet you can have when you do not "diet" and waste calories on non nutritious garbage. You will drop sizes and gain bone mass and muscle mass. This you want and need. Bone broth is a miracle worker in the area. I start my day with bone broth.

My Naturopathic doctor says when women 'lose' weight they get bones like bird bones. All lacy and delicate. No wonder there is so much Osteoporosis and broken bones as women get older. We eat so badly and worry about the wrong foods that go in our mouths.

My two cents.

hugs,

Sue

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Thanks Sue - This is way more than two cents worth. lol It's a $million

dollars. My coffee jar is empty now so no more coffees in between meals.

As too many calories, (especially with all the honey) and now will only

have a cappuchino at the cafe. I have fruits, veges etc but need to cut

down the size of my meals just a little. I do have protein with each

meal but unsure how much protein is enough or too much?

You said " no peas " so I assume they must be fattening? Good to know

because I eat them regularly and plentifully. I only eat the good fats

and oils at home. But when I occasionally eat out I get sick almost

every time. So I agree with you. I just know that they have used toxic,

rancid oils containing trans-fats. I truly think that a lot of the

illnesses, and diseases we are seeing today are connected to the bad

fats, and oils!

You have mentioned your bone broth before. I will have to get that

recipe and make it. Thanks for the info. Hope you are feeling stronger,

and a bit better. Keep warm and take care.

Love & hugs

Carlene

>

> I am going to throw in my two cents about the losing weight thing.

> Here is what a naturopathic doctor would tell you. You do not want to

lose weight you want to lose inches. In fact you want to gain weight

(remember I am not overweight but I weigh 180 at 5'7 " ). When you lose

weight you lose bone mass and muscle mass. Something you do not want to

do. It is the inches and fat you want to lose while building up your

muscle mass and bone mass. This is achieved by cutting out all processed

carbs. NO wheat. None. Zip. Nada. Not a bit. No grains. Can have rice. I

would also cut out all potato. No sugar. None. Nada. Zip. Lot's of

veggies (no peas). NO corn. None. Corn is so genetically modified it

does not even resemble the corn of our grandparents. Alter cells in the

brain and is just starch. NO juice. Just sugar. Fruit and protein. You

can have good fats. Butter, Olive oil, Coconut Oil. The other oils in

the store are rancid before you even get them home. Kill B vitamins in

the body. Do not limit your protein sizes. If you

> scrimp on protein your body will take it from your muscle and organs.

You would be surprise what a yummy diet you can have when you do not

" diet " and waste calories on non nutritious garbage. You will drop sizes

and gain bone mass and muscle mass. This you want and need. Bone broth

is a miracle worker in the area. I start my day with bone broth.

> My Naturopathic doctor says when women 'lose' weight they get bones

like bird bones. All lacy and delicate. No wonder there is so much

Osteoporosis and broken bones as women get older. We eat so badly and

worry about the wrong foods that go in our mouths.

> My two cents.

> hugs,

> Sue

>

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Sue~~I really appreciate all the info you give to us here in group. I was wondering if you could give us like a menu of what you eat daily. I am getting really confused and don't know where or how to start. I have been thinking about fasting for a few days. I too would like your recipe about the the bone broth. Getting ready to go to bed. It is snowing heavily here tonight. Do hope you have a peaceful rest tonight, and will feel better tomorrow.

Love & Hugs

Cyn

-- Re: losing weight

I am going to throw in my two cents about the losing weight thing.

Here is what a naturopathic doctor would tell you. You do not want to lose weight you want to lose inches. In fact you want to gain weight (remember I am not overweight but I weigh 180 at 5'7"). When you lose weight you lose bone mass and muscle mass. Something you do not want to do. It is the inches and fat you want to lose while building up your muscle mass and bone mass. This is achieved by cutting out all processed carbs. NO wheat. None. Zip. Nada. Not a bit. No grains. Can have rice. I would also cut out all potato. No sugar. None. Nada. Zip. Lot's of veggies (no peas). NO corn. None. Corn is so genetically modified it does not even resemble the corn of our grandparents. Alter cells in the brain and is just starch. NO juice. Just sugar. Fruit and protein. You can have good fats. Butter, Olive oil, Coconut Oil. The other oils in the store are rancid before you even get them home. Kill B vitamins in the body. Do not limit your protein sizes. If you scrimp on protein your body will take it from your muscle and organs. You would be surprise what a yummy diet you can have when you do not "diet" and waste calories on non nutritious garbage. You will drop sizes and gain bone mass and muscle mass. This you want and need. Bone broth is a miracle worker in the area. I start my day with bone broth.

My Naturopathic doctor says when women 'lose' weight they get bones like bird bones. All lacy and delicate. No wonder there is so much Osteoporosis and broken bones as women get older. We eat so badly and worry about the wrong foods that go in our mouths.

My two cents.

hugs,

Sue

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I had no idea that unsaturated & polyunsaturated fats were

metabolic suppressors.

One thing to add, coconut oil can speed up a sluggish

metabolism rate, so one burns more calories.

Many people I have know who are perpetually struggling to lose

weight have some things in common (in my observation).

a) They are very sedentary. The send other people to run errands or

use the car rather than walk 6 blocks.

B) They use lots of crappo oils and avoid the healthy saturated fats.

c) They really love their carbs! For example, they will drink diet

coke, but then have a bowl of potato salad.

d) They snack a lot. They seem to be always hungry. Seems to that

points to Leptin Resistance. And also points back to (B) and ©

above. Years ago an experiment was posted on one of my health

lists. If one is hungry and sits down to a meal of pancakes with

syrup, one can eat and eat, then eat some more. But if one eats a

steak or pork chops, and eats the fat on the meat, one gets full and

has little urge to gorge. So what they eat will determine how much

they eat.

e) Tied into (d) is intestinal health. If one's gut is clogged with

gunk. In folks with poor bowel health, some food never passed out

the butt. It mummifies in the gut. Technical term is fecolith. The

fecoliths inhibit absorption of nutrients, so even if one eats a full

meal, one feels like one is starving. So one keeps eating more and

more. Adding lots of fiber to the diet is the most gentle way to

deal with fecoliths. For those who want a quicker path to bowel

health, one can do juice fasts plus high colonics. I once knew a

woman who ridded herself of massive amounts of fecoliths in several

different juice fasts with high colonics. She lost over 100 pounds,

then kept the weight off by eating healthily. I once read a book by

a coroner who autopsied people who died from morbid obesity. He

sometimes found more than 100 pounds of fecoliths in the intestines of

a very morbidly obese person. Not only do fecoliths inhibit nutrient

absorption, but as the food rots and mummifies, toxins are put into

the body every day which cause damage to many organs. He

hypothesized that fecoliths contributed to death of the morbidly obese

more than their excess weight.

Alobar

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

> Cheryl, you can reduce weight with a reduced-carb " anti-candida " diet even

without the coconut oil. Meat, whey and almost all the various low carb veggies

you can eat will usually get a person to the right weight for that diet. The

anti-candida diet and similars that reduce carbs are metabolic enhancers while

carb-heavy diets are metabolic suppressors. :)

>

> Also, unsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats beyond the minimum are

metabolic suppressors. Using deodorized coconut oil is a great option if you

don't like the taste of coconut. The other fats should be saturated, so

primarily butter and lard, with a small amount of extra virgin live oil for a

break.

>

> Older adults often need to maintain metabolic increase via HGH growth hormone

releasers, as HGH release is the main metabolic control. My family and I have

used SomaLife gHP for HGH enhancement since around 2003, while some prefer the

IGF-1 boost in colostrum. I'm told body builders use four tbsp daily of

colostrum for the IGF-1 push.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>>

>> Hi I am new to this group and want to use coconut oil to lose weight.  Don't

like the taste though so wondering if any of you out there can give me some

ideas of how to use it easily in other ways.

>>

>> Thank you.

>> Cheryl

>>

>>

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I think your observations below are pretty much bang-on, Alobar. Routine

alcohol consumption also plays a role in weight problems (e.g. beer gut).

I had read about the fecolith problem before but not with that term being used

or with a sufficient description to make it appear to be a legitimate issue. It

doesn't sound good and appears to be something a lot more people need to be

aware of.

Also, thanks Duncan for your information previous to Alobar's. I enjoy reading

both of your comments on the forum as your knowledge and insight seemingly

always fit in with my areas of interest.

> >

> > Cheryl, you can reduce weight with a reduced-carb " anti-candida " diet even

without the coconut oil. Meat, whey and almost all the various low carb veggies

you can eat will usually get a person to the right weight for that diet. The

anti-candida diet and similars that reduce carbs are metabolic enhancers while

carb-heavy diets are metabolic suppressors. :)

> >

> > Also, unsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats beyond the minimum are

metabolic suppressors. Using deodorized coconut oil is a great option if you

don't like the taste of coconut. The other fats should be saturated, so

primarily butter and lard, with a small amount of extra virgin live oil for a

break.

> >

> > Older adults often need to maintain metabolic increase via HGH growth

hormone releasers, as HGH release is the main metabolic control. My family and I

have used SomaLife gHP for HGH enhancement since around 2003, while some prefer

the IGF-1 boost in colostrum. I'm told body builders use four tbsp daily of

colostrum for the IGF-1 push.

> > all good,

> > Duncan

> >...

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Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

that it seems to help.

cheers

cheryl

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Alcohol, antibiotics and the Pill kill good bacteria in your digestive

system. knowthecause.com

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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:01 AM, radio5961 <radio5961@...> wrote:

>

>

> I think your observations below are pretty much bang-on, Alobar. Routine

> alcohol consumption also plays a role in weight problems (e.g. beer gut).

>

> I had read about the fecolith problem before but not with that term being

> used or with a sufficient description to make it appear to be a legitimate

> issue. It doesn't sound good and appears to be something a lot more people

> need to be aware of.

>

> Also, thanks Duncan for your information previous to Alobar's. I enjoy

> reading both of your comments on the forum as your knowledge and insight

> seemingly always fit in with my areas of interest.

>

>

> > >

> > > Cheryl, you can reduce weight with a reduced-carb " anti-candida " diet

> even without the coconut oil. Meat, whey and almost all the various low carb

> veggies you can eat will usually get a person to the right weight for that

> diet. The anti-candida diet and similars that reduce carbs are metabolic

> enhancers while carb-heavy diets are metabolic suppressors. :)

> > >

> > > Also, unsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats beyond the minimum are

> metabolic suppressors. Using deodorized coconut oil is a great option if you

> don't like the taste of coconut. The other fats should be saturated, so

> primarily butter and lard, with a small amount of extra virgin live oil for

> a break.

> > >

> > > Older adults often need to maintain metabolic increase via HGH growth

> hormone releasers, as HGH release is the main metabolic control. My family

> and I have used SomaLife gHP for HGH enhancement since around 2003, while

> some prefer the IGF-1 boost in colostrum. I'm told body builders use four

> tbsp daily of colostrum for the IGF-1 push.

> > > all good,

> > > Duncan

> > >...

>

>

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