losing weight

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl:

I don't know if you've heard about Matt Stone. His theories are absolutely

awesome. I have lost weight as many others have on various groups I'm on. He has

a fee ebook that helps you understand that raising your body temperature, and

slowing down your exercise routine will indeed make you lose the extra pounds. I

won't go into all of it, but its fascinating. Here's the link:

http://180degreehealth.com/

It's garbage that people who can't lose weight are all lazy, eating bad, not

exercising. When you read this ebook you will know it has everything to do with

low body temperature as do those who have thyroid issues.

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

From: Cheryl Mcduff <c.mcduff@...>

Subject: Re: losing weight

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 5:39 AM

Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods.  I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny.  Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

that it seems to help.

cheers

cheryl

:

[Guest guest]

Thank you for that .

I did feel that it was assumed that I was a lazy couch potato and nothing could

be further from the truth.

Much appreciated and I will let you know how I get on.

I am also going to Alkalise as much as I can.

cheers

[Guest guest]

The other thing I see commonly is thyroid/adrenal issues which are missed by

regular doctors because they don't run the complete panel of tests and/or they

misread the tests. A good endocrinologist can check that out for you. Although,

I'm finding though that my endo doesn't seem to know a lot about adrenals so I'm

having to search out for another doc.

I knew of a lady who went on the HCG diet (which works really well-I've lost

70lbs) however, she failed miserably. She investigated and found that she had

pituitary issues and thyroid issues which had been missed by her primary doctor.

(Once fixed, she went on the diet and lost). My doctors also missed my thyroid

issues as well. They told me my thyroid was normal when it was not. I had been

on diets, did cardio, weight training, martial arts, swimming, etc and only lost

6 lbs over 6 months. It was found finally when I went to a weight/sports

medicine doctor who found it by running the full thyroid panel. But even she did

not know how to treat it. So I ended up going to an Endocrinologist. Once I

started getting treatment for it, I tried the HCG diet and met with success.

You may consider asking your doctor on your next physical to run a full thyroid

panel (TSH, free T3, free T4, reverse T3, TPO, etc.) plus D3, ferritin, B

vitamins (if you have deficiencies, it will affect thyroid even if thyroid is

normal). If you notice you are prone to stress/anxiety, then request an adrenal

check as well. Make sure to get a copy of your results and then research them on

thyroid forums/net/other doctors.

BTW-thanks to a personal trainer, she advised me of the problems with soy (which

I had been consuming a lot of). My doctors yet to tell me about the problems

with soy.

If you are doing everything right with your eating, etc then there may be

something else going on with your body.

Jen

>

>

> Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

>

> I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

>

> Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

that it seems to help.

>

> cheers

>

> cheryl

> :

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, I see; given your information, something may have been reducing your

metabolic rate for much of your life. The coconut oil, whey and selenium, and

HGH increasers as you get toward your golden years may increase your slow

metabolic rate, and detoxification provided from the whey's glutathione increase

will also help to reduce weight. Given you're on a nutritional and exercise

program you'll probably see results with those changes.

But take a good hard look at your diet anyway and determine if just possibly

dysbiosis is playing a role. A lot of athletes are high-carbing, and that

increases toxin load in the gut by skewing the ecology towards pathogenesis. The

gut responds with inflammation, which may look like belly fat but is half

inflammation. The correct diet to control bowel culture will be to reduce

carb-heavy foods to almost nothing and increase inulin to historic values or at

least around 15 grams per day. This has the effect of stimulating immune

response and liver function too.

References to the huge role a simple food component plays in health and gut

issues can be found Gooogling Inulin References. I'd start with my site, listing

one.

Glutathione references are now legendary; Googling will turn up my reference

page also at #1. You will also see a lot of Youtubes from doctors who paraphrase

the science; ALL of them stress the importance of glutathione in health, aging

and fitness, and they don;t all sell Immunocal. I used to sell that high-dollar

item before I found out that essentially ALL the undenatured wheys furnish

building blocks with which to produce glutathione.

As an aside to Alobar the last Youtubes I watched were of Parkinson's patients,

one of whom had diabetes, who went from crippled -- hardly moving/walking at all

-- to skipping and walking with full control and laughing with facial expression

in minutes with a 600 mg. glutathione injection. IV glutathione doesn't even

enter most cells, so we know we can do better Google Parkinson disease

glutathione.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

>

> I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

>

> Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

that it seems to help.

>

> cheers

>

> cheryl

> :

>

>

[Guest guest]

Birth control pills kill good bowel flora? The reason I don't believe it is that

it's a very low dose and no scientific support seems to be coming up for the

statement. What we do know is that probiotic action helps to enhance hormone

excretion.

all good,

Duncan

> > > >

> > > > Cheryl, you can reduce weight with a reduced-carb " anti-candida " diet

> > even without the coconut oil. Meat, whey and almost all the various low carb

> > veggies you can eat will usually get a person to the right weight for that

> > diet. The anti-candida diet and similars that reduce carbs are metabolic

> > enhancers while carb-heavy diets are metabolic suppressors.

> > > >

> > > > Also, unsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats beyond the minimum are

> > metabolic suppressors. Using deodorized coconut oil is a great option if you

> > don't like the taste of coconut. The other fats should be saturated, so

> > primarily butter and lard, with a small amount of extra virgin live oil for

> > a break.

> > > >

> > > > Older adults often need to maintain metabolic increase via HGH growth

> > hormone releasers, as HGH release is the main metabolic control. My family

> > and I have used SomaLife gHP for HGH enhancement since around 2003, while

> > some prefer the IGF-1 boost in colostrum. I'm told body builders use four

> > tbsp daily of colostrum for the IGF-1 push.

> > > > all good,

> > > > Duncan

> > > >...

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

Absolutely, and adrenal/thyroid issues in people with gut dysbiosis is quite

common. The physical stressor is the toxin load, thyroid is suppressed by

stressors and cortisol and adrenaline are usually jacked by stressors. Anyway

adrenal fatigue combined with low HGH release is an outcome, in a condition of

metabolic suppression.

We can bail people out of the metabolic suppression with attention to HGH

release from the pituitary and often by supplementing zinc, and improving

stomach acidity, in addition to the glutathione program with whey and selenium,

and attention to the dysbiosis itself with the inulin.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even

though:

> >

> > I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

> >

> > Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

that it seems to help.

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > cheryl

> > :

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jen, What thyroid medication are you using with success?

 

The other thing I see commonly is thyroid/adrenal issues which are missed by

regular doctors because they don't run the complete panel of tests and/or they

misread the tests. A good endocrinologist can check that out for you. Although,

I'm finding though that my endo doesn't seem to know a lot about adrenals so I'm

having to search out for another doc.

I knew of a lady who went on the HCG diet (which works really well-I've lost

70lbs) however, she failed miserably. She investigated and found that she had

pituitary issues and thyroid issues which had been missed by her primary doctor.

(Once fixed, she went on the diet and lost). My doctors also missed my thyroid

issues as well. They told me my thyroid was normal when it was not. I had been

on diets, did cardio, weight training, martial arts, swimming, etc and only lost

6 lbs over 6 months. It was found finally when I went to a weight/sports

medicine doctor who found it by running the full thyroid panel. But even she did

not know how to treat it. So I ended up going to an Endocrinologist. Once I

started getting treatment for it, I tried the HCG diet and met with success.

You may consider asking your doctor on your next physical to run a full thyroid

panel (TSH, free T3, free T4, reverse T3, TPO, etc.) plus D3, ferritin, B

vitamins (if you have deficiencies, it will affect thyroid even if thyroid is

normal). If you notice you are prone to stress/anxiety, then request an adrenal

check as well. Make sure to get a copy of your results and then research them on

thyroid forums/net/other doctors.

BTW-thanks to a personal trainer, she advised me of the problems with soy (which

I had been consuming a lot of). My doctors yet to tell me about the problems

with soy.

If you are doing everything right with your eating, etc then there may be

something else going on with your body.

Jen

>

>

> Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

>

> I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

>

> Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told that

it seems to help.

>

> cheers

>

> cheryl

> :

>

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan:

All these refs to whey-what do those of us truly dairy-allergic do? I'm not just

lactose intolerant, but truly allergic.

I lost 70 lbs on yeast-free, but still have 40 to go and NOTHING seems to help.

I could go for weeks eating just bare minimum calroies, and not lose any more

weight.

Thanks,

Laurie

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 1:02:01 PM

Subject: Re: losing weight

Cheryl, I see; given your information, something may have been reducing your

metabolic rate for much of your life. The coconut oil, whey and selenium, and

HGH increasers as you get toward your golden years may increase your slow

metabolic rate, and detoxification provided from the whey's glutathione increase

will also help to reduce weight. Given you're on a nutritional and exercise

program you'll probably see results with those changes.

But take a good hard look at your diet anyway and determine if just possibly

dysbiosis is playing a role. A lot of athletes are high-carbing, and that

increases toxin load in the gut by skewing the ecology towards pathogenesis. The

gut responds with inflammation, which may look like belly fat but is half

inflammation. The correct diet to control bowel culture will be to reduce

carb-heavy foods to almost nothing and increase inulin to historic values or at

least around 15 grams per day. This has the effect of stimulating immune

response and liver function too.

References to the huge role a simple food component plays in health and gut

issues can be found Gooogling Inulin References. I'd start with my site, listing

one.

Glutathione references are now legendary; Googling will turn up my reference

page also at #1. You will also see a lot of Youtubes from doctors who paraphrase

the science; ALL of them stress the importance of glutathione in health, aging

and fitness, and they don;t all sell Immunocal. I used to sell that high-dollar

item before I found out that essentially ALL the undenatured wheys furnish

building blocks with which to produce glutathione.

As an aside to Alobar the last Youtubes I watched were of Parkinson's patients,

one of whom had diabetes, who went from crippled -- hardly moving/walking at all

-- to skipping and walking with full control and laughing with facial expression

in minutes with a 600 mg. glutathione injection. IV glutathione doesn't even

enter most cells, so we know we can do better Google Parkinson disease

glutathione.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even though:

>

> I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods.  I am also a qualified Personal

>Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

>

> Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

>skinny.  Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told

>that it seems to help.

>

> cheers

>

> cheryl

> :

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm using a combination of T3/T4 meds (Levoxyl & Cytomel generics).

It's helped a lot but I think that my Endo doesn't have it adjusted right yet as

my free T3 and free T4 numbers are still off. Jen

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even

though:

> >

> > I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

> >

> > Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was never

skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been told that

it seems to help.

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > cheryl

> > :

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> i use Armor Thyroid and it balanced my hypothyroid. synthroid just made me

> feel awful

>

--

*Bonnie *

Clinical Herbalist and Herbal Educator

www.bonniesherbals.com

www.wonderfulheatlhywater.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks Duncan for your information.

Had a look last night at some of the sites you mentioned. Stayed up far too

late as I find these sites very interesting.

I am an avid researcher but don't always have enough time as their is so much

information out there. Could live on my computer researching but alas work has

to fit in as well.

I have heard of Glutathione as my sister has cancer and I am always researching

for information on that.

Interesting re Parkinsons as one of New Zealand's best athlete of the 80's has

Parkinson's disease. He was a 1500 meter runner.

I have a lot of information to sift through.

Which is your site???

Supplements are very expensive here in Phuket so have to choose wisely which

ones to take.

Thanks again for you help.

cheers

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie, whey is well tolerated by even severely milk-sensitive people but

those who are truly allergic would use cycsine capsules and selenium for the

glutathione increase. A better option would be unheated goat whey. I found some

online a few days ago but I didn't save the link.

Some people choose N-acetylcysteine but the drug hydrolyzes on its way to the

cells yielding toxic freeform cysteine until what's left of it is absorbed.

Enteric coated glutathione is OK for topical bowel lining, and liposomal

glutathione is said to absorb into the blood serum where it has some application

just as injections do. For glutathione increase in the cells where 90% is

needed, precursors must be used and cystine or whey (plus selenium) are IMO the

best.

You can maximize glutathione manufacture with Amgenex DNA, which switches on 200

genes connected with glutathione production. It also contains the extracts of 8

of the top nutraceutical fruits and it's AMized for energy.

I keep mentioning energy because that's what you're inducing to lose weight. Low

carbing and detoxification also increase metabolic rate and energy production.

People losing weight with the AMwater Actify and some of the other

microclustered water devices report more energy too.

But the elderly often need to really increase HGH release because low HGH is

what drags other hormonal values down and allows one to age. For that, SomaLife

gHP is stellar. My wife's trying a round of colostrum for the IGF-1 push.

Colostrum is good for bowel health too.

Sit bouncing for 10 minutes a day on a mini-trampoline will slim down the whole

body including things that hardly ever move except to sag

Ozone steam saunas are well known to be a weight reducer too. The therapy breaks

down toxins and increases metabolism.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan:

>

> All these refs to whey-what do those of us truly dairy-allergic do? I'm not

just

> lactose intolerant, but truly allergic.

> I lost 70 lbs on yeast-free, but still have 40 to go and NOTHING seems to

help.

> I could go for weeks eating just bare minimum calroies, and not lose any more

> weight.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Laurie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

my sites:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow

http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP

http://amegapacific.com

I'm glad you find the information interesting and useful

Duncan

>

>

> Thanks Duncan for your information.

>

> Had a look last night at some of the sites you mentioned. Stayed up far too

late as I find these sites very interesting.

>

> I am an avid researcher but don't always have enough time as their is so much

information out there. Could live on my computer researching but alas work has

to fit in as well.

>

> I have heard of Glutathione as my sister has cancer and I am always

researching for information on that.

>

> Interesting re Parkinsons as one of New Zealand's best athlete of the 80's has

Parkinson's disease. He was a 1500 meter runner.

>

> I have a lot of information to sift through.

>

> Which is your site???

>

> Supplements are very expensive here in Phuket so have to choose wisely which

ones to take.

>

> Thanks again for you help.

>

> cheers

>

> Cheryl

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan,

Interesting info - thank you.

Question-

My alternative doctor had the theory that increasing my stomach acid would help

with digestion and asthma. He gave me betaine hcl. At first it seemed to help.

Then I got really sick for a couple of months. Turns out my liver enzymes went

crazy and lipase depleted. I asked both my regular doc and alternative doc if

the hcl could be a factor and they said they didn't think so. Then I went online

and some website said that lipase works best in an alkaline environment and

adding hcl would cause lipase to deplete. All my symptoms were indicative of a

lipase deficiency! So I went off of it and my symptoms resolved rather quickly

and liver function tests went back to normal.

I don't know anything about inulin. Does it impact acidity/enzymes?

Also, I heard something in the press recently about protein powders having high

levels of arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury. Do I need to be careful about which

whey I get?

Jen

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks for the information, weight loss has always been a problem even

though:

> > >

> > > I don't drink, smoke, or eat fatty foods. I am also a qualified Personal

Trainer so am well educated in the areas of Nutrition and Fitness.

> > >

> > > Even when I was at the peak of my fitness and running marathons I was

never skinny. Thats why I thought I would try the coconut oil as I have been

told that it seems to help.

> > >

> > > cheers

> > >

> > > cheryl

> > > :

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen, yes the HCl should help with asthma by improving digestion, which allows

for less putrefaction so lower toxin creation. And more lipase will be created.

Asthma indicates depleted lung glutathione, and since low glutathione is

actually systemic, It seems you're not on an anti-aging program that

deliberately increases it. Selenium is necessary for its creation and

undenatured whey provides precursors. Undenatured whey is an anti-aging tool

that has also been used in studies on asthma and COPD - chronic obstructive

pulmonary disease; you can read some of the studies on my resource page or find

the page at #1 by Gooogling glutathione references:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html

You shouldn't need much extra lipase unless you're using fats that require

digestion; my wife has no gallbladder yet she's on a full fat/high-fat diet,

mainly milk fat, which requires little digestion.

Inulin is not broken by acidity or human enzymes and it does not increase

stomach acidity but it increases certain enzymes in the bowel that digest food.

Probiotics numbers that are increased by inulin secrete enzymes. The full story

on inulin with references you can find by Gooogling inuln references or going to

my reference page here:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/inulin_prebiotic_probiotic.html

The press on some things might be pretty scary, but the actual amount of

contamination of whey is pretty low. You can choose a whey from animals that are

not exposed to pesticides, antibiotics, growth factors, etc., if you wish. The

glutathione created by the whey and selenium is plenty to break and complex

those toxins as well as all of your other toxins combined so it's a net gain

with no worries anyway ...there are a couple of good ones on my website to

compare to.

all good,

Duncan Crow

> >

> > Hi Jen,

> >

> > Absolutely, and adrenal/thyroid issues in people with gut dysbiosis is quite

common. The physical stressor is the toxin load, thyroid is suppressed by

stressors and cortisol and adrenaline are usually jacked by stressors. Anyway

adrenal fatigue combined with low HGH release is an outcome, in a condition of

metabolic suppression.

> >

> > We can bail people out of the metabolic suppression with attention to HGH

release from the pituitary and often by supplementing zinc, and improving

stomach acidity, in addition to the glutathione program with whey and selenium,

and attention to the dysbiosis itself with the inulin.

> >

> > all good,

> >

> > Duncan

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

When I started the diet I could feel myself loosing weight. I did cheat a bit

over the holidays but going strong in the New Year. I don't seem to be dropping

weight but putting it on (just a bit) I take 6 T. of CO/day and 2 CLO/day. I eat

mostly meat.

I looked at Fitday or whatever it is called and I don't know about calculating

each meal. I don't have the brain power. Can I eyeball my meat/veggy portions?

I seems like I hardly eat any veggies (or carbs).

Can you help me understand my body and why I'm not loosing?

Thanks,

Cassandra

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> When I started the diet I could feel myself loosing weight. I did cheat a bit

over the holidays but going strong in the New Year. I don't seem to be dropping

weight but putting it on (just a bit) I take 6 T. of CO/day and 2 CLO/day. I eat

mostly meat.

+++Hi Cassandra,

Some women do not lose weight on this program, and it is mainly because of

hormones, particularly if you are now taking birth control pills, any other

kinds of hormones for adrenals, etc., hormone replacement therapy, etc. or have

taken them in the past.

Have you have female related health issues?

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Amen.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

I don't know what happened, but I was 'amen-ing' Cassandra's comment. She ask

" why do some lose weight on this program while others gain? "

Bee, your answer was hormones. Will these issues work themselves out over time

or will I still have a flabby belly in the end?

Thanks,

Debbie

[Guest guest]

I'm 55 y.o. I have taken birth control pills in my 20's. I also did bioidentical

hormones and have tried Armour Thyroid (with little success). Most of us

probably have been on these sometime in our lives.

Can we visualize a pyramid of our diet with protein being the most consumed,

fats next, then carbs? Or is fats to be at the top and protein next, then carbs?

Thanks so much Bee,

Cassandra

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > When I started the diet I could feel myself loosing weight. I did cheat a

bit over the holidays but going strong in the New Year. I don't seem to be

dropping weight but putting it on (just a bit) I take 6 T. of CO/day and 2

CLO/day. I eat mostly meat.

>

> +++Hi Cassandra,

>

> Some women do not lose weight on this program, and it is mainly because of

hormones, particularly if you are now taking birth control pills, any other

kinds of hormones for adrenals, etc., hormone replacement therapy, etc. or have

taken them in the past.

>

> Have you have female related health issues?

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cassandra,

If you visualized a pyramid, the widest part would be the fats, then the protein

the carbs. Make sure to do your proper calculations, though, so you get the

correct amounts of each.

Group Moderator

>

>

> I'm 55 y.o. I have taken birth control pills in my 20's. I also did

bioidentical hormones and have tried Armour Thyroid (with little success). Most

of us probably have been on these sometime in our lives.

>

> Can we visualize a pyramid of our diet with protein being the most consumed,

fats next, then carbs? Or is fats to be at the top and protein next, then carbs?

>

> Thanks so much Bee,

> Cassandra

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear that your son is struggling. I've been on a liquid diet for about

three months now and have been able keep my weight from dropping to much. I

drink a lot of Odwella or Naked fruit smooties. They have the kind that include

protein plus fruit. One bottle can be up to 500 cals. They aren't to thick for

me. And right now my E doesn't really drop liquid that well. Another thing I

live on is (laugh here) Slim Fast drinks. They taste way better than ensures and

aren;t to think and heavy. They only have about 200 cals per can but have lots

of vitamins and fiber. Hope this helps.

Stefani

>

>

> Priti,

>

> This may come across as silly, but I used to drink warmed up chocolate ensure

with about 1/4 cup of milk added (enough to thin it out). I heated it in a

coffee mug and pretended I was having coffee. It worked:)

> Try the same for your son and he can pretend it's hot chocolate!

>

> I wish you and your family all the best of luck!

>

>

> Thunder Bay, Ontario

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How old is your son? I'm 47 yrs old and had A since I was 14. Medicine has come

sooo far since the 70's and your son is getting the best update info to get him

better. Love to know how he is doing

All the Best,

________________________________

From: Preeti Mahajan <priti19.mahajan@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 7:03:43 PM

Subject: Re: Losing weight

You know another good thing about this support group is that other than the

advise/suggestion there are so many good wishes and prayers we receive

!hat we are not alone.

Thank you all especially for being so nice and kind!

From: Cullinan <andreacullinan1@...>

Subject: Re: Losing weight

achalasia

Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:43 PM

I know how he feels!! It is very thick, I drank the carnation breakfast. It was

a lot thinner and much easier to get down. You might try the powder and add just

a cup of milk that might be even better for him then the already made bottles.

I'll be thinking of him and he will get better...many of us have

All the Best

________________________________

From: priti19.mahajan <priti19.mahajan@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 4:37:21 PM

Subject: Losing weight

Hello Friends,

Another suggestion needed.

Dr had recommended that my son should try to maintain his weight as he did lose

a lot in the past month. He recommended Ensure and breakfast carnation. I do

not know what I may be thinking or not thinking that I picked up ensure clinical

strength Revigor immune balance vanilla milk shake. I did not think thatit may

be thick for it to go down. So now my son is not feeling well and did not even

eat anything tonight. Does anyone know of anything else that is easy to go down

and can help maintain his weight till surgery in July.

Thanks,

Priti

[Guest guest]

One more thing, I was thinking about your son and what I ate and my favorite was

Pastina. It is a infant size pasta and great with butter and if he can, mashed

peas. Also cream of rice or wheat, with losts of milk. Last I take everyday a

liquid B12. I drop 2 droppers worth in my mouth and it will help with energy for

him. I get so tired from lack of vitimins that the B12 gives me that little

extra. You can find the liquid B12 and others at any of your CVS or Rite Aid

drug stores. I wouldn't take it in pill form, it will just sit in his E and give

him to much pain. It is such a limited menu but it should be easy to get down

and easy on reflux and spasms. July will be here before you know it. I think

that is when he is having his surgery?

All the best and have a great weekend

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From: Preeti Mahajan <priti19.mahajan@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 7:03:43 PM

Subject: Re: Losing weight

You know another good thing about this support group is that other than the

advise/suggestion there are so many good wishes and prayers we receive

!hat we are not alone.

Thank you all especially for being so nice and kind!

From: Cullinan <andreacullinan1@...>

Subject: Re: Losing weight

achalasia

Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:43 PM

I know how he feels!! It is very thick, I drank the carnation breakfast. It was

a lot thinner and much easier to get down. You might try the powder and add just

a cup of milk that might be even better for him then the already made bottles.

I'll be thinking of him and he will get better...many of us have

All the Best

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From: priti19.mahajan <priti19.mahajan@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 4:37:21 PM

Subject: Losing weight

Hello Friends,

Another suggestion needed.

Dr had recommended that my son should try to maintain his weight as he did lose

a lot in the past month. He recommended Ensure and breakfast carnation. I do

not know what I may be thinking or not thinking that I picked up ensure clinical

strength Revigor immune balance vanilla milk shake. I did not think thatit may

be thick for it to go down. So now my son is not feeling well and did not even

eat anything tonight. Does anyone know of anything else that is easy to go down

and can help maintain his weight till surgery in July.

Thanks,

Priti