Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 > Do you give milk thistle every day for prolonged periods or on a > chelation type cycle? THe health food specialist said give on a 6 day > on and one day off cycle for 6 weeks but I was wondering how everyone > here gives it. > Thanks Patti All the time, continuously, for months or years on end. Andy .. . . .. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 > Do you give milk thistle every day for prolonged periods or on a > chelation type cycle? THe health food specialist said give on a 6 day > on and one day off cycle for 6 weeks but I was wondering how everyone > here gives it. > Thanks Patti I give it on chelation days only. This works for us. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 My son takes the capsules. I give him one a day which is 280 mg. I just bought a new brand that is supposed to be better. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 Because there has been no response to the Milk Thistle question I am assuming that there is little to no reaction for our kids. Searching on iHerb.com brought up the following information and I think that I can safely give my son the capsule form at the low adult rate. -Lynette Dosage: The standard dosage of milk thistle is 200 mg 2 to 3 times a day of an extract standardized to contain 70% silymarin. There is some evidence that silymarin bound to phosphatidylcholine may be better absorbed. This form should be taken at a dosage of 100 to 200 mg twice a day. Safety Issues Milk thistle is believed to possess very little toxicity. Animal studies have not shown any negative effects even when high doses were administered over a long period of time. lynette wrote: > I have several question having to do with dosage and form. I am having > difficulty comparing the alcohol extraction form with a capsule form. > > Milk Thistle extract - the tincture form is very difficult to get into > my son. 1ml = 35ml Silymarin. I mix w/hot water (evaporate off the > alcohol) and mix w/juice and stevia - but it is an ordeal. > > My son is 11 and 65lbs and pretty agreeable to most things but this is > bringing up the gag reflex. > > But, I don't understand the comparison with a capsule form. TwinLab > supplement facts shows that 2 capsules = 350mg milk thistle seed extract > (standarized for 80% silymarin). > > How do I compare these two forms? And can I give my son a capsule? > He easily takes them but has been sensitive to a lot of stuff (gluten > free, casein free, soy and corn free, low phenols and sugar, no dyes or > preservatives). > > Everyone who is chelating should be taking milk thistle - right? So, > there should be plenty of thoughts on this question. > > Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 > I have several question having to do with dosage and form. I am having > difficulty comparing the alcohol extraction form with a capsule form. comparing dosage is difficult. At least I don't know how to compare them well. I think that alcohol extraction is probably the best bet for milk thistle. I think this based on a GENERAL knowledge of herb forms, and that milk thistle seed is VERY hard. (I've collected it, chewed on it, made extracts from it, etc.) With capsules or tablets the issues are about absorbsion and freshness. With extracts the issues are about which properties can be extracted with a given solvent ( " menstrum " is actaully the proper word here). > Milk Thistle extract - the tincture form is very difficult to get into > my son. 1ml = 35ml Silymarin. I mix w/hot water (evaporate off the > alcohol) and mix w/juice and stevia - but it is an ordeal. > > My son is 11 and 65lbs and pretty agreeable to most things but this is > bringing up the gag reflex. not good! > > But, I don't understand the comparison with a capsule form. TwinLab > supplement facts shows that 2 capsules = 350mg milk thistle seed extract > (standarized for 80% silymarin). how much is 350 mg of extract? I'd have to look in Joy of Cooking to see if mg to liquid conversion is in there. Extracts are usually measured in drops, with 20 drops = about one dropperful. > > How do I compare these two forms? And can I give my son a capsule? > He easily takes them but has been sensitive to a lot of stuff (gluten > free, casein free, soy and corn free, low phenols and sugar, no dyes or > preservatives). I think if the extract is difficult it would make sense to use capsules even though I think it is not as potent. Be practical. > > Everyone who is chelating should be taking milk thistle - right? So, > there should be plenty of thoughts on this question. Herbalists, in general, disagree about preferred FORM for herbs. Although, this also varies with the specific herb, at least somewhat. The methods of preparation will vary depending on the type of herb (green leafy stuff vs. hard barky stuff) and also depending on the properties of the active constituents -- e.g. some things are not extracted by alcohol that are by water, and so on.... I have actually checked with someone I know who makes herbal preparations (commercially that is), regarding my guess that alcohol tincture is the " best " form for milk thistle and she agreed with this. She also sells a tincture that is MADE with alcolhol and then alcohol evaporated and glycerine (sweet) added, which saves you the evaporation " step " of the process. (Let me know if you want contact info, and I'll find it.) But this is NOT the same as buying a glycerine tincture which was probably MADE with glycerine WHICH IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 Moria I think this would be very helpful - if the information is not too difficult to find. Obviously I just want to offer my son's liver the best support that I can, especially during chelation, and this has been very difficult to determine. Either chelation is not harming anyone with whatever supports they are using or no one is checking on possible damage. I have not been able to sweeten the ticture form enough to get it in my son. Andy's book recommends 1-2 capsules with each meal (and in another location) 250-750mg silymarin. So, I would guess that a reputable brand and following these guidelines would be sufficient. Lynette moriamerri wrote: > > I have actually checked with someone I know who makes herbal > preparations (commercially that is), regarding my guess that > alcohol tincture is the " best " form for milk thistle and she > agreed with this. She also sells a tincture that is MADE > with alcolhol and then alcohol evaporated and glycerine > (sweet) added, which saves you the evaporation " step " of > the process. (Let me know if you want contact info, and > I'll find it.) But this is NOT the same as buying a > glycerine tincture which was probably MADE with glycerine > WHICH IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE. > > Moria > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 > > > > > I have actually checked with someone I know who makes herbal > > preparations (commercially that is), regarding my guess that > > alcohol tincture is the " best " form for milk thistle and she > > agreed with this. She also sells a tincture that is MADE > > with alcolhol and then alcohol evaporated and glycerine > > (sweet) added, which saves you the evaporation " step " of > > the process. (Let me know if you want contact info, and > > I'll find it.) But this is NOT the same as buying a > > glycerine tincture which was probably MADE with glycerine > > WHICH IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE. > > > > Moria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I had forgotten about Milk Thistle until saw it mentioned here. It is good for the liver, right? would it also be helpful to the pancreas also? Judith BTW, thank you, , for the info on skin brushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 In a message dated 8/25/2004 3:09:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jes94@... writes: > I had forgotten about Milk Thistle until saw it mentioned here. It is good > for the liver, right? would it also be helpful to the pancreas also? > Judith: My opinion and I am tired so take it with a grain of salt....Milk Thistle rebuilds liver, Enzymes take load off pancreas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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