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Treatment for adults and kids is the same. Sexual transmission may be

prevented by using protection , other than that not much can be done.

No, once you already have had Hep C , it is unlikely that you will get

re-infected if you do clear the virus in the first place.

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If you become HCV negative and stay that way, the hepatitis and cirrhosis

progression stops. There

is evidence that fibrosis may reverse as well , however cirrhosis is mostly non

-reversible .

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If you become HCV negative and stay that way, the hepatitis and cirrhosis

progression stops. There

is evidence that fibrosis may reverse as well , however cirrhosis is mostly non

-reversible .

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If you become HCV negative and stay that way, the hepatitis and cirrhosis

progression stops. There

is evidence that fibrosis may reverse as well , however cirrhosis is mostly non

-reversible .

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If you become HCV negative and stay that way, the hepatitis and cirrhosis

progression stops. There

is evidence that fibrosis may reverse as well , however cirrhosis is mostly non

-reversible .

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Hi Vesper...on my workdays, W-F-S, I spend half of my lunch hour walking..I usually go between 2-3 miles. On Tues & Thurs I do 2 miles each day on a Gazelle glider. I also do a 10 min lifting routine on a bowflex machine every other day. I don't work out on Sun-Mon...unless I just feel like it..if the weather is good, I ride my horses...this time of year, grooming them is a huge workout with all the mud here...yuck! I try to keep my exercise low impact...I have a bad leg and ankle due to a very bad fracture, and very low flexion in the ankle. I have not lost a single pound in the last 2 weeks, but I haven't gained either, and my clothes are fitting looser. I have my fill on Monday, so then I hope I will start losing again.BIG HUGS, AND GOD'S BLESSINGSDawnita MayLowpass, Oregon10/05/05 dob "Iraida" 209/190/135 5ft 3inches"before" photos at: http://dawnita1961.myphotoalbum.com/

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At 06:29 PM 1/28/07, you wrote:

>Have any of you read,

> " The Mindbody Prescription " by E. Sarno,M.D.

>

>Vikki

I did and thought in a body like mine were I had crushed vertebrae, 4

levels of back fusion , a torn Dura, and 2 levels of neck fusion, it

didn't apply to me. I'm open to anything that will make my back pain

better, I guess I just didn't get it. Dave

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At 06:29 PM 1/28/07, you wrote:

>Have any of you read,

> " The Mindbody Prescription " by E. Sarno,M.D.

>

>Vikki

I did and thought in a body like mine were I had crushed vertebrae, 4

levels of back fusion , a torn Dura, and 2 levels of neck fusion, it

didn't apply to me. I'm open to anything that will make my back pain

better, I guess I just didn't get it. Dave

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You most likely got the infection because only alcohol was used. If you'll notice Dr. A doesn't use alcohol, he uses a different solution.

Know what alcohol does? If it is 70% isopropyl alcohol that means that if you take an instrument and soak it for 24 hours it will kill 70% of the bacteria. If it is 90% Isopropyl alcohol then if you soak an instrument (or needle) in it for 24 hours it will kill 90% of the bacteria. That's just not good enough when you are talking about entering the skin where there is a silicone band under there. People seem to think alcohol is such great stuff and honestly, I don't know where they get that idea. Alcohol doesn't sterilize a bloody thing. There is a reason it is not used in ORs, the reason is that it doesn't sterilize things.

Dr. A used to use Alcohol and then a layer of betadine. When I was there last he uses something different, not sure what it is. But I have never seen him use alcohol only. He also uses complete sterile technique. You won't find Hall or anyone else doing that either. They use non sterile gloves, Dr. A uses Sterile Gloves. They handle non sterile items such as the non sterile wrapper to the syringe. Dr. A has two people doing fills, one to handle the non sterile items and he only touches sterile items while wearing sterile gloves.

What you are describing is not sterile technique. It doesn't have as much to do with the needle as it does with the lack of simple precautions. If the skin is not prepared adequately then there is bacteria on the skin. Your doc only used alcohol. She might as well have used soap and water, it might have done a better job. So there was already bacteria on your skin. So it doesn't really matter how many times she poked you or if she used a different needle each time. She was pushing bacteria on your skin through the hole the needle made and pushing it into your body. One needle, 20 needles, it doesn't matter. Your skin wasn't clean enough to poke you to begin with.

Alcohol cleans, it does not sterilize. Alcohol does a great job of cleaning dirt and making chrome shiny. It does not sterilize skin. Betadine does a much better job.

In a hospital setting if someone has to have a foley placed in their bladder they don't clean the site with anything other than Betadine. That is for a reason. Same difference with preparing the skin for a port injection.

On 4/12/07, J Currie <giftedtch@...> wrote:

Odds? I can't tell you the odds. They may, in fact, be very low. However, it can happen and it does happen...more than you realize. You are right. The needle goes from my own flesh back to my own flesh BUT there are many germs that are harbored on the outside of my own flesh that do not need to be introduced to the inside of my body. Our skin is covered with various bacteria that can wreak havoc on us if they gain access to our blood stream. Each time a needle enters our flesh, cappilaries are compromised. One needle stick isn't a problem but the more needle sticks, the more damage is done, thus jeopardizing the general health of the cappilary system, making it more susceptible to infection.

Let me explain this as well. When I contracted an infection, I was in the office of a very prominant bariatric surgeon in Atlanta, GA. She wiped my stomach with a 2 inch piece of gauze, covered in alcohol. Then she proceeded to stick me numerous times with the same needle before deciding that the needle had become too dull to do any good. Sterile environment? Probably not. Toxic environment? Our skin is constantly a toxic environment. What are the odds? I don't have any idea but I know that I lost my port due to this procedure. It isn't the end of the world, however, and successful life with my band continues day to day. It has also happened to others, I assure you.

Jennimiamiangel888 <miamiangel888 > wrote:

What are REALLY the odds of getting an infection from being stuck more than once with the same needle? Honestly, not longshot-wise. I mean it goes from YOUR flesh back into YOUR flesh. Where is it picking up the so called infection; from the two seconds it was airborne? I would think that unless you are in an already toxic environment, that the odds of it happening that particular way are extremely rare.

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I work out 4-5x's a week. 2hr's each session if not more, it depends

on my body, but at least 2hrs. I do eliptical, treadmill, rowing

machine, crunches, and other strength machines. I went to a regular

gym that I really like and I got a trainer, I highly reccommend

getting a trainer at first and then going into it on your own. Good

Luck!

Kelli

>

> I was wondering how many people on this site actually have a workout

> routine, what type of exercise they participate in and for how

> long/times per week. How do you feel your exercise has affected

your

> weight loss. Have any of you participated in a type of exercise

that

> affected your band?

>

> Vesper

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Hmmmmm...I find it interesting that a physician who does not use flouroscopy would tell his patients that there is no guarantee that using flouro makes for a better fill. Why would he/she encourage that service when he/she doesn't offer it? I am curious, have you ever had a fill with flouro? If not, let me explain. Having the flouro doesn't insure the proper fill but I beg to differ on what your doctor says about hitting the port. Hell, even I could hit the port if I am sitting there looking at it on the x-ray machine. How could you not? The port, the tubing, the band, everything is visible, as is the needle as it goes in. Not hit the port?? Highly doubtful. You can get all the fills you want without the visual reasurrance but I, for one, will never allow anyone to touch me, my port, or attempt to access my band without it. The odds may not be very high for infection or

subsequent problems but those odds did, in fact, hit home with me. Therefore, even one patient (me being the one) in 1 million are odds I'm not willing to risk again. To each his own. Jenni"G. " <allen@...> wrote: I've got the same question. I keep hearing all of these horror stories on here about people getting infected and having their bands removed and it seems like the cause is an infected needle stick, or a doctor that

didn't use flouroscopy. I asked my doctor about whether he had to do so many more fills to hit the sweet spot because he didn't use flouroscopy and had to just use trial and error and small fills to be able to tell when an unfill is needed. He said watching a swallow on flouroscopy was no indication of whether you were too full or not unless you were so tight that not even liquids could get through, otherwise it was still a trial and error process. He also said that flouroscopy was only mildy useful in hitting the port with the needle and no guarantee whatsoever that you would miss the tubing with the needle.I think it is human nature to hear a story about something bad happening to someone else and convince ourselves that if we just adjust and turn the screwdriver a little bit, that it won't happen to us. I think the reality is that sometimes, no matter how good we are and what precautions we take, random bad

stuff can still happen to us and we just need to struggle and work our ways through it.Greg P.miamiangel888 wrote:> > > What are REALLY the odds of getting an infection from being stuck more> than once with the same needle? Honestly, not longshot-wise. I mean> it goes from YOUR flesh back into YOUR flesh. Where is it picking up> the so called infection; from the two seconds it was airborne? I would> think that unless you are in an already toxic environment, that the> odds of it happening that particular way are extremely rare.> >

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Not to be too argumentative here, but we know that Dr. A. has done

several thousand of these procedures and how many cases do we know of

where someone had a major problem for ANY reason? I'm not saying it's

impossible, I'm just wondering if it isn't rally a case where it looks

inflated because that is the only experiences we are hearing about. Dr.

A. seems to have thousands of patients, but I seriously doubt that the

vast majority of them only go back to Mexicali for fills. I understand

if someone feels very strongly about only going to Dr. A and that type

of thing, but for me personally, I'm taking my chances with the local

guy who has done several thousand surgeries and might stick me twice

with the same needle. He does offer flouro, it's just that the hospital

charges me an extra $800 for it, so I personally am not willing to pay

extra. I might be an idiot and feeling really bad somewhere down the

line when I lose my band and have to go back to Mexicali and shell out

another 10 or 20 grand to get everything repaired, but I'm willing to

take that chance. If it does happen to me though, I will be sure and

come here and eat crow and be completely honest about it.

DOB 11/06/2006

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ps;Maybe it's just all those years of experience as an IV drug user back

in the 80's, but since I never caught anything back then even sharing

needles, I'm not too scared about a Doctor sticking me now.

ga cr wrote:

>

>

> Just being curious with the odds ?? has caused more than enough problems

> around here lets see I can think of atleast three and im sure there are

> more that did get infection one lost here band, the other a port, and as

> with the other all the fun of fighting off a very very bad infection!!!

> Maybe there are odds that no infection but WHY would a good Dr. take

> that risk over a fresh needle and two seconds of his time. In my case if

> I ever go outside Dr. A again im going to offer to pay for the extra

> needle just so it don't happen to me. NOT WORTH THE CHANCE!!!! :~))

>

> */miamiangel888 <miamiangel888@...>/* wrote:

>

> What are REALLY the odds of getting an infection from being stuck more

> than once with the same needle? Honestly, not longshot-wise. I mean

> it goes from YO UR flesh back into YOUR flesh. Where is it picking up

> the so called infection; from the two seconds it was airborne? I would

> think that unless you are in an already toxic environment, that the

> odds of it happening that particular way are extremely rare.

>

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Didn't we just recently hear someone talking about having a Dr. miss the

port with Flouro?

I could pay extra for flouro and the hospital would be happy to take my

money, but I'm taking my chances. If I end up miserable in the end, you

guys will be the first to know, but so far no problems.

Of course like I said before, I never had any problems when I was

sharing needles with junkies and putting street drugs into my veins, so

I feel pretty safe in a Doctor's office with alcohol swabs, etc.

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J Currie wrote:

>

>

> Hmmmmm...I find it interesting that a physician who does not use

> flouroscopy would tell his patients that there is no guarantee that

> using flouro makes for a better fill. Why would he/she encourage that

> service when he/she doesn't offer it? I am curious, have you ever had a

> fill with flouro? If not, let me explain. Having the flouro doesn't

> insure the proper fill but I beg to differ on what your doctor says

> about hitting the port. Hell, even I could hit the port if I am sitting

> there looking at it on the x-ray machine. How could you not? The port,

> the tubing, the band, everything is visible, as is the needle as it goes

> in. Not hit the port?? Highly doubtful.

>

> You can get all the fills you want without the visual reasurrance but I,

> for one, will never allow anyone to touch me, my port, or attempt to

> access my band without it. The odds may not be very high for in fection

> or subsequent problems but those odds did, in fact, hit home with me.

> Therefore, even one patient (me being the one) in 1 million are odds I'm

> not willing to risk again.

>

> To each his own.

>

> Jenni

>

> */ " G. " <allen@...>/* wrote:

>

> I've got the same question. I keep hearing all of these horror stories

> on here about people getting infected and having their bands removed

> and

> it seems like the cause is an infected needle stick, or a doctor that

> didn't use flouroscopy. I asked my doctor about whether he had to do so

> many more fills to hit the sweet spot because he didn't use flouroscopy

> and had to just use trial and error and small fills to be able to tell

> when an unfill is needed. He said watching a swallow on flouroscopy was

> no indication of whether you were too full or not unless you were so

> tight that not even liquids could get through, otherwise it was still a

> trial and error process. He also said that flouroscopy was only mildy

> useful in hitting the port with the needle and no guarantee whatsoever

> that you would miss the tubing with the needle.

>

> I think it is human nature to hear a story about something bad

> happening

> to someone else and convince ourselves that if we just adjust and turn

> the screwdriver a little bit, that it won't happen to us. I think the

> reality is that sometimes, no matter how good we are and what

> precautions we take, random bad stuff can still happen to us and we

> just

> need to struggle and work our ways through it.

>

> Greg P.

>

> miamiangel888 wrote:

> >

> >

> > What are REALLY the odds of getting an infection from being stuck

> more

> > than once with the same needle? Honestly, not longshot-wise. I mean

> > it goes from YOUR flesh back into YOUR flesh. Where is it picking up

> > the so called infection; from the two seconds it was airborne? I

> would

> > think that unless you are in an already toxic environment, that the

> > odds of it happening that particular way are extremely rare.

> >

> >

>

>

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Well, one issue to consider is that the port is an object without blood

flow. Even using dirty needles is not bad " in the same way " because your

body can wash away and surround the bad bacteria with antibodies

(hopefully). But an object without blood flow such as a band it can

potentially make a difference. It's like a foley cath. If you poke a cath

up someone's whazoo they are more likely to get an infection if you leave it

there because the body has a harder time fighting bacteria in an object

without blood flow, that cath. You can treat the infection but it is not

likely to go away because of the cath. Remove the cath and the infection

typically clears right up. Now think of the band. If you introduce

bacteria in the band it is less likely to heal if the band is there vs. if

it is not.

How you do your fills is an individual issue. I have had it done both ways

and I now prefer Dr. A do it and under fluoro. It's not more " correct " or

better than your way, it's merely my preference. Your way is not better or

'more correct' than my way, it's simply your preference. Either way is

okay. I can justify the fluoro in my case for several reasons. It's

actually cheaper to go to Dr. A vs. the guy in Flagg that uses fluoro but

the distance is a great deal more (six of one, half a dozen of the other)

but the bottom line is that it is personal preference. I trust Dr. A and

Dr. Campos, I have invested too much time and money in this band to screw it

up, and it's a simple precaution in my case BUT, I live in AZ. It's

3.5hours from Mexicali. I'm quite sure it isn't nearly as convenient

for you.

Either way is fine, it is simply what you prefer. It's your band and your

body. You do what you feel is best. You aren't a stupid person, if someone

was being careless and not doing things properly you would recognize that

and deal with it. That is really all that matters.

On 4/12/07, G. <allen@...> wrote:

>

> Not to be too argumentative here, but we know that Dr. A. has done

> several thousand of these procedures and how many cases do we know of

> where someone had a major problem for ANY reason? I'm not saying it's

> impossible, I'm just wondering if it isn't rally a case where it looks

> inflated because that is the only experiences we are hearing about. Dr.

> A. seems to have thousands of patients, but I seriously doubt that the

> vast majority of them only go back to Mexicali for fills. I understand

> if someone feels very strongly about only going to Dr. A and that type

> of thing, but for me personally, I'm taking my chances with the local

> guy who has done several thousand surgeries and might stick me twice

> with the same needle. He does offer flouro, it's just that the hospital

> charges me an extra $800 for it, so I personally am not willing to pay

> extra. I might be an idiot and feeling really bad somewhere down the

> line when I lose my band and have to go back to Mexicali and shell out

> another 10 or 20 grand to get everything repaired, but I'm willing to

> take that chance. If it does happen to me though, I will be sure and

> come here and eat crow and be completely honest about it.

>

>

> DOB 11/06/2006

> 345/260/165

>

> ps;Maybe it's just all those years of experience as an IV drug user back

> in the 80's, but since I never caught anything back then even sharing

> needles, I'm not too scared about a Doctor sticking me now.

>

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> I'm just curious. How much cod liver oil and extra virgin olive oil do you

consume a day?

+++Hi ,

Are you asking me, or just anyone on the group? Maybe a better Subject line

would help, i.e. intake of cod liver oil and extra virgin olive oil?

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I take 1 tablespoon of each. My cod liver oil is from GNC and Bee calculated the

amount I should be taking.  I just started the olive oil this past week and I

have heard others on here say 1-2 tablespoons.

> I'm just curious. How much cod liver oil and extra virgin olive oil do you

>consume a day?

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