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What types of things do you do to help with the oral defensivness?

is also very defensive in that area.

>He is very orally defensive however that has improved alot over the last

year. We do quite a bit >of oral stimulation in order to combat the

defensiveness but nothing seems to affect the teeth >grinding.

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Dear Jodi,

Abby did this for a while too. I found that it was

linked with fluid in the ear canals, and when that

cleared up, the teeth grinding stopped. Thank

goodness. It was really irritating to me! My husband

does it in his sleep. I couldn't get away from it.

Good Luck,

Cyndi,

Mom to Abby 27months DS

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On 28 Feb 2001 19:04:54 -0000, Vaccinations wrote:

>>, I do the same thing at night. I don't know why and I cannot

control it. At one time I read that it could be parasites. I am currently

using antifungals that are helping with both my yeast and parasites if I

have them. My grinding has minimized. I cannot find where I read of heard

this so I have no hard information. Perhaps you will be able to find

something.

>>Margaret White

Thank you for the info, unfortunately my son does it only during the

daytime and not at night at all. The info you gave me was what I've found

online. Is it just a frustration release or a sign of something else?

That's what I'm wondering. Anyone know of any reasons for daytime teeth

grinding? He seems to do it absentmindedly is why I can't quite figure it

out.

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Thanks for sharing this information . My son grinds his teeth

as every kid with Down Syndrome . They do it as a lack of sensory

input in the mouth and or jaw . Sometimes oral motor therapy helps,

we use an electric tootbrush . I do see it happen when under a bit of

stress . I wish would enjoy drinking water , I have to find

many ways for him to drink fluids . Gatorade , Crystal light ,

flavored water , juices , & once in a while cold water . This would

make some sense on what you've written . His Ped . dentist has

mentioned not to worry about it , but as he gets older and teeth has

grinded down . Here is where a plastic type cap over teeth could be

worn if child permits it . Since using the electric toothbrush it has

cut down on his teeth grinding . Still has sleep issues , under

medication for it , depending on what food has triggered his sleep

disorder the medication does not work . I'm keeping on eye on that .

We did try Melatonin in the past , it did not work for him , it had

caused lethargic and aggressive behaviors . I've been reading more on

the Melatonin which has helped kids with autism . I was willing to

give it a try again . I had lacked info on it , before . I did read

where it must be taken at the same time every night , I was not doing

that . This week I'm glad that he is sleeping , last week no sleep ,

yuck . So I'll let it be for now . A website -http://www.ont-

autism.uoguelph.ca/revnov.html , as I was hunting for info . Thanks.

Irma, 13,DS/ASD g2g get some zzzz's . : )

> I hate to sound redundant but the best cure for teeth grinding (and

> sleep disorders) is extra water. The general rule is to drink one

> ounce of water for each two pounds of body weight.

>

> Ian Houdini used to have a real problem with grinding his teeth,

> especially when he felt stressed. (He also had sleep problems.) As

> the severe issues he had with eating and drinking diminished as he

> got older and he became willing to drink more, his teeth grinding

> mostly disappeared. I can only think of one time in the last year

> that I heard him grinding his teeth.

>

> Water is a logical choice of treatment. Water reduces tension.

Water

> loosens you up. Water reduces Vata (dryness) disturbances (although

> it is not the only thing). Water should be the first treatment that

> is tried for teeth grinding, sleep disorders (How many people avoid

> giving their child water too close to bedtime?), sensory disorders,

> constipation, dry skin, nervous disorders, tension, anger, joint

> pain/stiffness, lack of sweating, fever, intolerance to heat,

> eating/drinking disorders, colds and flu, temper tantrums, head

> banging, fingernail biting, and lots of other symptoms. If water

> doesn't work, try essential fatty acids. If even that does not

work,

> you might want to consult a physician.

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nathan's teeth grindig is a sensory issue, and he does

drinks lots of fluids dly, especially water, several

big insulated keep water cold cups full a day. plus

his CPAP also has a heated humidifier so he is not

getting dried out, and stops the snoring quite a bit.

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Joan, Margaret & Others,

Sephanie is a chronic teeth grinder, too. It SO wonderful to know

others who are going through the same behaviours. In our case, Steph can be

bored, anxious or just " self-regulating " . When we ask her to stop grinding,

she will, but only for 5 seconds! LOL!

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You can't stop it...you never will. I know...I've tried for years and years.

My son, Evan, is 6. He absolutely drives us crazy with teeth grinding.

Especially when he is tired. I have learned to tune it out sometimes.

That's the only thing that helps. Buy earplugs...lol.

Terry

Mom to Evan, 6, DS and to Kohl, 9 months, (who gets awakened by the sound of

his brother's grinding teeth all the time)

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thrill@... writes:

<< Help!! Mac has started to grind his teeth and it makes me cringe

everytime--I can't stand it!! He just started doing it several months ago

and only prior to bed--so I thought it was something he was doing when he was

tired--he also moves his lower jaw around a lot when he's tired. Now he's

grinding his teeth and moving his jaw around all the time!! He doesn't seem

to be in any discomfort and we were at the dentist the end of June and he

said all was well. I know it also might be sensory...Kit's OT suggested I

massage his gums which I've been doing, but no results. Anyone else have any

ideas on why this has started and how to get it to quit?!?! Thanks.

Jill

Mom to Mac (4, Ds) and Kit (turning 1 on Monday, Ds) >>

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In a message dated 8/17/02 4:40:16 PM Central Daylight Time, thrill@...

writes:

> Anyone else have any ideas on why this has started and how to get it to

> quit?!?!

> Thanks.

>

> Jill

>

Hi Jill,

the only other thing you might want to check if you already havent is the

ears. :-) usually started to drive us nuts when she had an ear

infection.....and of course there really wasn't any other sign of one.

sigh. good luck

Joy

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Heidi (12) grinds too, has for years. Her speech therapist taught her to

cluck her tongue. Whenever Heidi would grind, the SLP would cluck her tongue and

ask Heidi to do the same. Now, all we have to do to get her to stop grinding is

cluck a couple of times. Heidi does it too and stops grinding. Sometimes,

though, she will just continue to grind again. It is helpful to learn how to

ignore the grinding, annoying as it is.

B CNY

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Corrie 10 DS and Mae 6 DS

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Re: Teeth Grinding

You can't stop it...you never will. I know...I've tried for years and years.

My son, Evan, is 6. He absolutely drives us crazy with teeth grinding.

Especially when he is tired. I have learned to tune it out sometimes.

That's the only thing that helps. Buy earplugs...lol.

Terry

Mom to Evan, 6, DS and to Kohl, 9 months, (who gets awakened by the sound of

his brother's grinding teeth all the time)

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thrill@... writes:

<< Help!! Mac has started to grind his teeth and it makes me cringe

everytime--I can't stand it!! He just started doing it several months ago

and only prior to bed--so I thought it was something he was doing when he was

tired--he also moves his lower jaw around a lot when he's tired. Now he's

grinding his teeth and moving his jaw around all the time!! He doesn't seem

to be in any discomfort and we were at the dentist the end of June and he

said all was well. I know it also might be sensory...Kit's OT suggested I

massage his gums which I've been doing, but no results. Anyone else have any

ideas on why this has started and how to get it to quit?!?! Thanks.

Jill

Mom to Mac (4, Ds) and Kit (turning 1 on Monday, Ds) >>

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At 07:29 AM 11/28/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>If you get too

>much, the stool will be loose..so decrease the dose.

Be careful with magnesium. it can cause diarrhea and subsequent dehydration

even over a period of time with few signs of diarrhea. I have a knee jerk

reaction to use of Mg as a supplement separate from an multivitamin after

reading a case study of a child who died from an overdose of magnesium.

High doses can affect the heart as well. The child had CP, was

constipated....it's admittedly a rare occurrence, but it was certainly one

to take note of. Especially the fact that she didn't share with the

physicians (nor did they ask) the amount or frequency she was using Mg for

his " constipatiobn. " (he wasn't constipated, it turns out....)

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In a message dated 5/31/2004 6:43:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sarendarella@... writes:

> Does any of your children do this and do you know why?

>

He has a lot in the past. It could be due to sensory issues or fluid in the

ears. For sensory issues giving kids hard or chewy things to chew on like

pretzels seems to help. If you suspect fluid in his/her inner ear you should

call your pediatrician.

Kathy, Liam's mom( 6)

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Children often grind because of molar growing in, or sometimes stress. When

My kids did this I gave them a wet washcloth to chew on. Seems to help,

Goodluck Nettie619 or a frozen popsicle helps

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Can you get him a mouth guard from the dentist. My mom grinds her teeth and thats what she uses. She isn't autistic though.danielle_aqw <danielle_aqw@...> wrote:

I am a paraeducator and am wondering if anyone know how I can get my child to stop grinding his teeth. He is nonverbal and he is either humming or grinding his teeth. I think that it is a comfort thing for him. He also tends to suck on things. He's in 1st grade. No chew items work. He will chew on something and grind his teeth. Telling him to stop or telling him it hurts his teeth works for about 5 seconds and he back to doing it again.Thank you,le

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Can you get him a mouth guard from the dentist. My mom grinds her teeth and thats what she uses. She isn't autistic though.danielle_aqw <danielle_aqw@...> wrote:

I am a paraeducator and am wondering if anyone know how I can get my child to stop grinding his teeth. He is nonverbal and he is either humming or grinding his teeth. I think that it is a comfort thing for him. He also tends to suck on things. He's in 1st grade. No chew items work. He will chew on something and grind his teeth. Telling him to stop or telling him it hurts his teeth works for about 5 seconds and he back to doing it again.Thank you,le

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Both my sons used to grind there teeth, but only when they were sleeping. I had brought this to my Dentists attention and he said that is very normal for a young child who have there baby teeth still to grind them. He told me not to worry, because they usually outgrow this once they get their adult teeth coming in. Well low and behold, neither of them do it anymore. I do not know if there are other reasons a child might do this, but maybe you could ask your dentist about it. carol sobczak <cpsobczak@...> wrote:

Can you get him a mouth guard from the dentist. My mom grinds her teeth and thats what she uses. She isn't autistic though.danielle_aqw <danielle_aqw@...> wrote: I am a paraeducator and am wondering if anyone know how I can get my child to stop grinding his teeth. He is nonverbal and he is either humming or grinding his teeth. I think that it is a comfort thing for him. He also tends to suck on things. He's in 1st grade. No chew items work. He will chew on something and grind his teeth. Telling him to stop or telling him it hurts his teeth works for about 5 seconds and he back to doing it again.Thank you,le

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Both my sons used to grind there teeth, but only when they were sleeping. I had brought this to my Dentists attention and he said that is very normal for a young child who have there baby teeth still to grind them. He told me not to worry, because they usually outgrow this once they get their adult teeth coming in. Well low and behold, neither of them do it anymore. I do not know if there are other reasons a child might do this, but maybe you could ask your dentist about it. carol sobczak <cpsobczak@...> wrote:

Can you get him a mouth guard from the dentist. My mom grinds her teeth and thats what she uses. She isn't autistic though.danielle_aqw <danielle_aqw@...> wrote: I am a paraeducator and am wondering if anyone know how I can get my child to stop grinding his teeth. He is nonverbal and he is either humming or grinding his teeth. I think that it is a comfort thing for him. He also tends to suck on things. He's in 1st grade. No chew items work. He will chew on something and grind his teeth. Telling him to stop or telling him it hurts his teeth works for about 5 seconds and he back to doing it again.Thank you,le

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He wouldn't put up with a mouth gaurd. He is starting to get his

adult teeth in and I am worried that he will grind them down too. It

is a comfort thing for him and he is very schedule oriented. I just

have to break the habit.

> I am a paraeducator and am wondering if anyone know how I can get

my

> child to stop grinding his teeth.

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> He is nonverbal and he is either humming or grinding his teeth. I

> think that it is a comfort thing for him. He also tends to suck

on

> things. He's in 1st grade. No chew items work. He will chew on

> something and grind his teeth.

> Telling him to stop or telling him it hurts his teeth works for

about

> 5 seconds and he back to doing it again.

>

> Thank you,

> le

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My son's private speech therapist suggested to us that many of the patients

she followed that had DS tended to grind their teeth when they had ear

infections. Has anyone else noticed a correlation in the amount of teeth

grinding

and ear infections? Nick was sick last week and I had noticed an increase in

the amount of teeth grinding he was doing just prior to getting sick (and

while sick) and then on Saturday he was diagnosed with an ear infection. So

now, I'm wondering if there might be a correlation.

Cari

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I have a suggestion! Try getting her a battery operated toothbrush that

is hers to use whenever she wants. It really works!

teeth grinding

I need help! I know this subject has come up before but I have a 4 year

old daughter with DS. Her teeth grinding has gotten so bad. It is only

during the day when she grinds. People have suggested that she chew

hard foods such as raw carrots. She does not chew a lot of stuff. She

is a very lazy chewer. She has been grinding for over a year. Any

suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Yes, there is a connection. For years, I knew had fluid building up

in his ears by him grinding his teeth, making a dolphin like noise, sucking

his finger(s) and an increase in behaviors. Sometimes I'd have to push to

have an audiological evaluation completed (tympannogram) because doctors

would look in the ear and not see signs of infection. Always, always insist

on the tympannogram. had tubes put in 8 times..I think I could be

an expert :) Just kidding......

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> My son's private speech therapist suggested to us that many of the

> patients

> she followed that had DS tended to grind their teeth when they had ear

> infections. Has anyone else noticed a correlation in the amount of teeth

> grinding

> and ear infections? Nick was sick last week and I had noticed an

> increase in

> the amount of teeth grinding he was doing just prior to getting sick (and

> while sick) and then on Saturday he was diagnosed with an ear infection.

> So

> now, I'm wondering if there might be a correlation.

>

> Cari

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Nic's grinding was at it's worse when he was getting his molars. He hasn't

done that in quite a while now that I think about it-it's something you

don't miss!

Di

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> My son's private speech therapist suggested to us that many of the

> patients

> she followed that had DS tended to grind their teeth when they had ear

> infections. Has anyone else noticed a correlation in the amount of teeth

> grinding

> and ear infections? Nick was sick last week and I had noticed an

> increase in

> the amount of teeth grinding he was doing just prior to getting sick (and

> while sick) and then on Saturday he was diagnosed with an ear infection.

> So

> now, I'm wondering if there might be a correlation.

>

> Cari

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My "typical" daughter grinds her teeth all the time. She started when she was 3 and is now 3 weeks away from her 8th birthday. The dentist told us there was nothing to do about it until she was an adult and could handle a sleep piece.

If it is sensory related you might want to try a little more than a chewy tube. I can't remember all the other things they had my daughter with DS do. I will look into my file and if someone else doesn't post I will. How about listening therapy? Have you tried that?marcy

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Have you been to an ENT? It may be something in the ear canal, possibly even "itching" and the grinding helps "scratch" it. Also, it's a sensory issue. It stimulates the brain by the grinding...I forget the technical definition of it.

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Hi ,

Our 3 year old also started grinding his teeth, both in his sleep and while

awake. In my understanding, the tricky part is that there could be one or

more of several causes. Some possible sources for the grinding might be:

fluid in his ears; a calcium/magnesium deficiency; a pantothenic acid

deficiency; finding a new form of stimming; a need for more mouth

stimulation; stress; malocclusion. I read somewhere that there is even a

parasite, threadworms, that can cause grinding.

What we have done with Isaac is keep a close monitor of his ear fluid with

the Ear Check and beef up his osteopathic massage when fluid is present. The

other thing we are using, which seems to be helping, is Nutrition Now Rhino

Calcium chewables. They have the recommended 2:1 ratio of calcium to

magnesium. We correct Isaac with a " don't grind " when we hear (ohhhh, that

sound is just awful - like fingernails on the chalkboard) him grinding and

he often responds to that. We also upped the z-vibe stimulation when the

grinding was escalating but we are not having to do that as much now (some

daily z-vibe use is part of his regular therapy - I also up it's use when he

takes to sucking on his tongue). He initially started grinding at night, so

loud and long that he was keeping his brother awake. The nighttime grinding

is hardly happening at all now and the daytime grinding is much less

frequent than it was before we before we ramped up the interventions. It was

happening throughout the day. Now it pops up here and there but is no longer

an every day occurrence.

Like so many things, nixing the grinding is a trial and error thing. Some

folks have had success with one or more of the above remedies. Some say

they've tried everything and their child is still grinding. Some say if the

children are young grinders they will grow out of it. But since our guys

tend to stay in stages longer, waiting for them to outgrow a habit which

will have a longer period to entrench itself doesn't seem like the best

plan. Hope this helps and you find something that works for your son!

Blessings,

Sandy

>I know that we may have discussed this before but my

> almost 3 year old is starting to grind his teeth. I

> do give him his chewy tube whenever I hear it. Any

> other suggestions? Does this last forever? UGH

>

> WEndy B

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did it briefly and mostly to annoy me - when I stopped reacting to it,

he stopped also.

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Date: 2006/09/20 Wed AM 08:43:05 CDT

Down Syndrome Treatment

Subject: Teeth Grinding

I know that we may have discussed this before but my

almost 3 year old is starting to grind his teeth. I

do give him his chewy tube whenever I hear it. Any

other suggestions? Does this last forever? UGH

WEndy B

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