Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 > is right. So should I go on antibiotics instead? Or colloidal silver > for some time, till the ulcer is healed? > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > Cathalijne Zoete (NL) Aloe vera heals very quickly and has a dirct microbial action. I've seen success with the Cayenne pepper 1 tsp stirred into a glass of water 3x a day, in just one day! Coconut oil, colloidal silver both kill h. pylori in the stomach for sure, and probably, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract or wild oregano oil would too. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 potato juice or cabbage juice is a remedy for ulcers first thing in morning on empty stomach start with a small dose mastic gum, an extract of pistachio nut is also a remedy for h pylori i would examine the diet as well and eliminate irritating foods like nitrates, possibly coffee, chemicals, metals, and amalgams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 > potato juice or cabbage juice is a remedy for ulcers > > first thing in morning on empty stomach start with a small dose > > mastic gum, an extract of pistachio nut is also a remedy for h pylori > > i would examine the diet as well and eliminate irritating foods like > nitrates, possibly coffee, chemicals, metals, and amalgams Don't forget Raw Monuka Honey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Thanks Sebastian for giving me advice on my stomach ulcer. Unfortunately it is not getting better yet, although I am doing what you suggested already. The main problem I guess is the state of my bowelflora, and my immune-system reacting to bacteria. The last few weeks I am getting weaker again, and after being in the hot sauna I got severe muscle weakness and tingling sensations in my body. The doctor said I need to take antibiotics because of bladder infection and another course of pills for gastritis. Because of the infections, the M.S. is becoming more active, this makes me afraid for the consequences. I experience severe pain in my joints (bacteria are migrating) and weakness in arms and legs, (and heart?)My heartbeat goes up high sometimes even in the night (110). During daytime I have severe pains even if I walk a small distance in the house. I think there is increased lack of B12 in the body due to boweldisfunction and lack of gastric juices causes dysbiosis. If I continue on ozontherapy what would be the benefit right now: I can kill some of the bad bacteria, but the immune-system may get activated also? Ozon will use up the decreasing amount of B12? Isn't that harmful? I am afraid to continue the ozon-sauna right now. It increases the tingling feeling in my muscles and has not (yet) helped to improve the arthritis in my knees. Supplements are not well absorbed, and I cannot take them during ozon-treatment... or? Thanks, C.Zoete Re: stomach ulcer > potato juice or cabbage juice is a remedy for ulcers > > first thing in morning on empty stomach start with a small dose > > mastic gum, an extract of pistachio nut is also a remedy for h pylori > > i would examine the diet as well and eliminate irritating foods like > nitrates, possibly coffee, chemicals, metals, and amalgams Don't forget Raw Monuka Honey OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hi Bee; So sorry, confusion in my brain, I think!  Also, Can I take Slippery Elm Bark for my terrible stomache ulcer? I am being put alot of pressure by my Doctor to take Prilosec, as he is saying i don't have enough stomache acid, which I am SURE is wrong. Wouldnt the HCI hurt a stomache ulcer? I have H Pylori and it hurts and I'm nauseous each meal. Though, the butter and steak seems to be working for sure. Thank you so much, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 > > Hi Bee; So sorry, confusion in my brain, I think!  Also, Can I take Slippery Elm Bark for my terrible stomache ulcer? I am being put alot of pressure by my Doctor to take Prilosec, as he is saying i don't have enough stomache acid, which I am SURE is wrong. > > Wouldnt the HCI hurt a stomache ulcer? I have H Pylori and it hurts and I'm nauseous each meal. Though, the butter and steak seems to be working for sure. > >++Hi Holly, Do not take slippery elm. Instead take 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sauerkraut with each meal, and take a tablespoon or two every time you get ulcer pains. Sauerkraut is unique, since it increases stomach acid if it is too low, and it decreases it if it is too high. Prilosec shuts off the body's production of stomach acid, so it is very damaging to your health. In fact I've helped many people get off of prilosec by taking sauerkraut. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi Bee; Thank you so much! I tried the sauerkraut and getting terrible TERRIBLE cysitiis after, should I continue or stop. It does actually seem to help my stomache a little, but Im in and out of the bathroom all day long, thank you, Holly ________________________________ From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 2:17:08 PM Subject: [ ] Re: stomach ulcer  > > Hi Bee; So sorry, confusion in my brain, I think!  Also, Can I take >Slippery Elm Bark for my terrible stomache ulcer? I am being put alot of >pressure by my Doctor to take Prilosec, as he is saying i don't have enough >stomache acid, which I am SURE is wrong. > > Wouldnt the HCI hurt a stomache ulcer? I have H Pylori and it hurts and I'm >nauseous each meal. Though, the butter and steak seems to be working for sure. >  >++Hi Holly, Do not take slippery elm. Instead take 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sauerkraut with each meal, and take a tablespoon or two every time you get ulcer pains. Sauerkraut is unique, since it increases stomach acid if it is too low, and it decreases it if it is too high. Prilosec shuts off the body's production of stomach acid, so it is very damaging to your health. In fact I've helped many people get off of prilosec by taking sauerkraut. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 > > Hi Bee; Thank you so much! I tried the sauerkraut and getting terrible TERRIBLE cysitiis after, should I continue or stop. It does actually seem to help my stomache a little, but Im in and out of the bathroom all day long, +++Hi Holly, Are you sure you have cystitis, since toxins being released increases more urine in order to get rid of them. It can " feel like " an infection when there is none. The bladder can also burn and have a lot of pressure. By the way, what kind of ulcers do you have? Gastric or duodenal? Yes, HCl aggravates ulcers, so you shouldn't take HCl supplements, however shutting off acid production means protein won't be digested. Also there must be enough HCl and fluids mixed into foods from the stomach it won't empty properly and they also trigger the pancreas to do its job, i.e. produce baking soda to make the mixture alkaline, then digestive enzymes. So not having HCl affects digestion of all foods. Read Stomach Acid to understand how that works: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php Stress decreases stomach acid, so you should do deep breathing exercises to help normal acid production: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php I did some research on cabbage yesterday, and found out you can eat boiled cabbage instead of sauerkraut, since it helps rebuild the lining of the stomach and also regulates stomach acid production. You can mix cabbage, ginger, celery, cayenne pepper, black pepper, and sea salt and cook them at least 1 hour, but I don't know the amount of each ingredient. I was going to experiment making it but they were out of cabbages at the health store. You could make up a big enough batch and eat some before meals, and every time you get ulcer pain just like sauerkraut is used. You can take Slippery Elm Bark if you wish. It won't hurt you. Let me know if it makes a difference. Also every time you get ulcer pain take 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda mixed into 4-5 ounces of non-chlorinated water and sip it until the pain subsides. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hi Bee;  Sorry for the delay in response, but I wanted to make sure about the slippery elm. Yes it seems to help a bit, I was taking Licorice chewables from Natural Factors but have since stopped as I am getting on your program and it has malodextrin in it. The sauerkraut I have continued, and my bladder has calmed down, I have cooked the cabbage with the ingredients you suggested, but the sauerkraut seems to help a bit more. I have a gastric ulcer and H pylori, and the doctor wants to push the prilosec and antacids and I try to get him to realize that I probably have low acid as I have a B12 deficiency, but they don't listen. Now he wants to do a CT scan with the dye and barium sulfate, and instructs me to take prednisone 60 mg. beforehand because of my many drug allergies. I dont want to do all of this. THe radiologist informed me that it takes MONTHS for this dye to detoxify, and prednisone is the reason I think I have all these stomach issues.  Thank you, Holly ________________________________ From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:09:32 AM Subject: [ ] Re: stomach ulcer  > > Hi Bee; Thank you so much! I tried the sauerkraut and getting terrible >TERRIBLE cysitiis after, should I continue or stop. It does actually seem to >help my stomache a little, but Im in and out of the bathroom all day long, +++Hi Holly, Are you sure you have cystitis, since toxins being released increases more urine in order to get rid of them. It can " feel like " an infection when there is none. The bladder can also burn and have a lot of pressure. By the way, what kind of ulcers do you have? Gastric or duodenal? Yes, HCl aggravates ulcers, so you shouldn't take HCl supplements, however shutting off acid production means protein won't be digested. Also there must be enough HCl and fluids mixed into foods from the stomach it won't empty properly and they also trigger the pancreas to do its job, i.e. produce baking soda to make the mixture alkaline, then digestive enzymes. So not having HCl affects digestion of all foods. Read Stomach Acid to understand how that works: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php Stress decreases stomach acid, so you should do deep breathing exercises to help normal acid production: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath4.php I did some research on cabbage yesterday, and found out you can eat boiled cabbage instead of sauerkraut, since it helps rebuild the lining of the stomach and also regulates stomach acid production. You can mix cabbage, ginger, celery, cayenne pepper, black pepper, and sea salt and cook them at least 1 hour, but I don't know the amount of each ingredient. I was going to experiment making it but they were out of cabbages at the health store. You could make up a big enough batch and eat some before meals, and every time you get ulcer pain just like sauerkraut is used. You can take Slippery Elm Bark if you wish. It won't hurt you. Let me know if it makes a difference. Also every time you get ulcer pain take 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda mixed into 4-5 ounces of non-chlorinated water and sip it until the pain subsides. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 > > Hi Bee; Sorry for the delay in response, but I wanted to make sure about the slippery elm. Yes it seems to help a bit, I was taking Licorice chewables from Natural Factors but have since stopped as I am getting on your program and it has malodextrin in it. The sauerkraut I have continued, and my bladder has calmed down, I have cooked the cabbage with the ingredients you suggested, but the sauerkraut seems to help a bit more. I have a gastric ulcer and H pylori, and the doctor wants to push the prilosec and antacids and I try to get him to realize that I probably have low acid as I have a B12 deficiency, but they don't listen. Now he wants to do a CT scan with the dye and barium sulfate, and instructs me to take prednisone 60 mg. beforehand because of my many drug allergies. I don't want to do all of this. THe radiologist informed me that it takes MONTHS for this dye to detoxify, and prednisone is the reason I think I have all these stomach issues. +++Dear Holly, I am very happy to read your post, since it is obvious you understand doctors cannot help you. Since the big push in the early 1900s by the Rockefeller Association who owned drug companies, medical education switched over to drugs, so doctors only get about 5-8 hours training in nutrition. In addition, a person can only detoxify in MONTHS if their body is " able to " detoxify itself. Some people may never detoxify them, nor any similar tests or procedures, or even Airport Scans. It is interesting that I just read how taking hormones and hormonal problems caused by poor health, cause stomach and bowel issues like constipation. It is interesting that my first ulcer attack (H. pylori) was the first year after starting menses. Every period I got terrible cramps, upset stomach, fever, headache, etc. that were less after I had children. But I still had ulcers. Obviously I wasn't getting the nutrients I needed. Onward & Upward, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thank you Bee: My first Ulcer was at 17 years old, 2 years after the onset of my menses. I am now 51 and have never felt so sick in my life. Beyond the CT scan the doctor wants and endoscopy and colonoscopy. He tried to put me on an acid reducer, and I tried to tell him there isn't enough acid I didn't think, but he doesn't want to hear this at all. I am beyond frustrated with the medical doctors. I then tried a Naturapathic doctor, who gave me Pancreatic enzymes, which also made me feel sick, and she is pushing for the CT scan also.  Holly ________________________________ From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 12:00:34 PM Subject: [ ] Re: stomach ulcer  > > Hi Bee; Sorry for the delay in response, but I wanted to make sure about the >slippery elm. Yes it seems to help a bit, I was taking Licorice chewables from >Natural Factors but have since stopped as I am getting on your program and it >has malodextrin in it. The sauerkraut I have continued, and my bladder has calmed down, I have cooked the cabbage with the ingredients you suggested, but the sauerkraut seems to help a bit more. I have a gastric ulcer and H pylori, and the doctor wants to push the prilosec and antacids and I try to get him to realize that I probably have low acid as I have a B12 deficiency, but they don't listen. Now he wants to do a CT scan with the dye and barium sulfate, and instructs me to take prednisone 60 mg. beforehand because of my many drug allergies. I don't want to do all of this. THe radiologist informed me that it takes MONTHS for this dye to detoxify, and prednisone is the reason I think I have all these stomach issues. +++Dear Holly, I am very happy to read your post, since it is obvious you understand doctors cannot help you. Since the big push in the early 1900s by the Rockefeller Association who owned drug companies, medical education switched over to drugs, so doctors only get about 5-8 hours training in nutrition. In addition, a person can only detoxify in MONTHS if their body is " able to " detoxify itself. Some people may never detoxify them, nor any similar tests or procedures, or even Airport Scans. It is interesting that I just read how taking hormones and hormonal problems caused by poor health, cause stomach and bowel issues like constipation. It is interesting that my first ulcer attack (H. pylori) was the first year after starting menses. Every period I got terrible cramps, upset stomach, fever, headache, etc. that were less after I had children. But I still had ulcers. Obviously I wasn't getting the nutrients I needed. Onward & Upward, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 ****I too have an ulcer and have had it most of my life. I also did the medical route when I was younger which made it much worse, then I used licorice capsules too. I have now been on Bee's diet 1 1/2 yrs. and it is getting better on this diet, but it still flares up just before my monthly cycle. I will swear by the rejuvilac juice. It has helped me when nothing else would. Also a glass of baking soda water when it is really hurting does wonders as well. Heidi from Iowa > > Thank you Bee: > > My first Ulcer was at 17 years old, 2 years after the onset of my menses. I am > now 51 and have never felt so sick in my life. Beyond the CT scan the doctor > wants and endoscopy and colonoscopy. He tried to put me on an acid reducer, and > I tried to tell him there isn't enough acid I didn't think, but he doesn't want > to hear this at all. I am beyond frustrated with the medical doctors. I then > tried a Naturapathic doctor, who gave me Pancreatic enzymes, which also made me > feel sick, and she is pushing for the CT scan also.  Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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