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One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are inter-related.

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

Sacramento, CA

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Hi All,

I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you,

O'Donnell RD, LD

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Jeanne,

I am currently trying to convince my surgeons to add vit A to our list of labs.

We see a fair number of iron deficiencies. - Are you saying that this could this

be related to a vit A deficiency?

If you have any articles handy that support this, it would be greatly

appreciated!

Thank you so much!

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Re: vitamin A

One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency

concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are inter-related.

 

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

Sacramento, CA

-------------- Original message from ODonnell <jlod2@...>:

--------------

Hi All,

I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly

low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she

went off of it and then it dropped again.  She recently purchased a mvi which as

3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet.  My question is, will

this be too much?  I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts

but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more?  If any

of you could get back to me that would be great.  I have always been taught that

10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you,

O'Donnell RD, LD

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Jeanne,

I am currently trying to convince my surgeons to add vit A to our list of labs.

We see a fair number of iron deficiencies. - Are you saying that this could this

be related to a vit A deficiency?

If you have any articles handy that support this, it would be greatly

appreciated!

Thank you so much!

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Re: vitamin A

One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency

concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are inter-related.

 

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

Sacramento, CA

-------------- Original message from ODonnell <jlod2@...>:

--------------

Hi All,

I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly

low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she

went off of it and then it dropped again.  She recently purchased a mvi which as

3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet.  My question is, will

this be too much?  I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts

but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more?  If any

of you could get back to me that would be great.  I have always been taught that

10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you,

O'Donnell RD, LD

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Here is some information on Vitamin A and Iron Interactions (as well as others), it is on page 7 of the PDF. Bo Lonnerdal is one of the professors in my department.

Jeanne

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are in

ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD >

gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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Here is some information on Vitamin A and Iron Interactions (as well as others), it is on page 7 of the PDF. Bo Lonnerdal is one of the professors in my department.

Jeanne

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are in

ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD >

gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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Is this a textbook?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jbship@...Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:20 PM ; Cc: danaeswilley@...Subject: Re: vitamin A

Here is some information on Vitamin A and Iron Interactions (as well as others), it is on page 7 of the PDF. Bo Lonnerdal is one of the professors in my department.

Jeanne

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are in ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD > & gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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Is this a textbook?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jbship@...Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:20 PM ; Cc: danaeswilley@...Subject: Re: vitamin A

Here is some information on Vitamin A and Iron Interactions (as well as others), it is on page 7 of the PDF. Bo Lonnerdal is one of the professors in my department.

Jeanne

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are in ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD > & gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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It is a chapter in a text, I sent Bo an e-mail to get the exact citation.

JB

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are

in ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD > BR> & gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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It is a chapter in a text, I sent Bo an e-mail to get the exact citation.

JB

--------- Re: vitamin A > > > One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency > concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are

in ter-related. > > Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD > Sacramento, CA > -------------- Original message from ODonnell : > -------------- > > > > > Hi All, > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came back slightly > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she > went off of it and then it dropped again. She recently purchased a mvi which as > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet. My question is, will > this be too much? I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more? If any > of you could get back to me that would be great. I have always been taught that > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you, > O'Donnell RD, LD > BR> & gt; > ---------------- > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels > > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with > FareChase. > > > >

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Thank you so much for your help!

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RE: vitamin A

It is a chapter in a text, I sent Bo an e-mail to get the exact citation.

JB

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>

>

> One more thought, you would want to treat any presenting iron deficiency

> concurrently to vitamin A deficiency...they are in ter-related.

>  

> Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

> Sacramento, CA

> -------------- Original message from ODonnell :

> --------------

>

>

>

>

> Hi All,

> I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels came

back slightly

> low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it back up, she

> went off of it and then it dropped again.  She recently purchased a mvi which

as

> 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet.  My question is, will

> this be too much?  I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in large amounts

> but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little more?  If any

> of you could get back to me that would be great.  I have always been taught

that

> 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you,

> O'Donnell RD, LD

> BR> & gt;

> ----------------

> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels

> > NDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> with

> FareChase.

>

>

>

>

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Some docs recommend 10,000 IU daily for proximal/medial RNY pts. and

20,000 IU daily for distal RNY pts. Should be dry (water soluble)

Vitamin A. Retinol, not beta-carotene.

DRIs are established for healthy people (i.e., those with a normal

GI tract).

Steve Huntington, PhD, RD, LD

> > Hi All,

> > I have a pt that is on vitamin A supplementation, her levels

came back slightly

> > low:306. I had her on 10,000 IU's for about 3 months, brought it

back up, she

> > went off of it and then it dropped again.  She recently

purchased a mvi which as

> > 3500 IU's vitamin A along with a 8000 IU vitamin tablet.  My

question is, will

> > this be too much?  I know vitamin A can be toxic if consumed in

large amounts

> > but since she had a malabsorptive surgery, can she have a little

more?  If any

> > of you could get back to me that would be great.  I have always

been taught that

> > 10,000 IU's is the upper limit. Thank you,

> > O'Donnell RD, LD

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I did a google search for his name with iron and vitamin A I have the citation:Nutrient interactions by By C. E. Bodwell, W. Erdman, Copyright 1988 ISBN 0824778685 an IFT symposium You can view and search the book online at google books Do you know if this was original research published in the book? Do you know if there is a newer publication? Thanks, Lora , BS Masters in Dietetics Student D'Youville College, Buffalo, NY

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Can anyone recommend a good weight loss program in Houston Texas where there is a doctor monitoring and providing medications etc. I work in dialysis and not sure where to refer a coworker who wants to lose about 30 pounds and has been unsuccessful for years despite exercising and dieting. charrisonrd@...Lora <loranutritionist@...> wrote: Here is a link to the book: http://books.google.com/books?id=kj78ja7XHvYC & pg=PA163 & lpg=PA163 & dq=bo+lonnerdal+vitamin+a+and+iron & source=web & ots=5DTUUK59aL & sig=WTkA-nQwiHSovZNIHgDIXYR3QFU#PPP1,M1 Lora

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At 03:34 PM 9/25/2008, you wrote:

>How do you give a baby Vitamin A specifically?

>

>

Mycelized A can be given in drops in the mouth

Or if you don't need high dosages, in cod liver oil - depends on the

age of the baby

Sheri

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Here's an alternate approach:

As the mom, eat a diet rich in tender greens, fruits, and vegetables,

uncooked to whatever extent you are willing. Then breastfeed the baby.

Supplements always indicate a broken diet. Fix the diet, the problem, don't

patch the symptom. Of course, that may take more effort on your part, but

then you volunteered to be a parent, I imagine. It's a big job, let's do it!

Best,

Elchanan

Re: Vitamin A

At 03:34 PM 9/25/2008, you wrote:

>How do you give a baby Vitamin A specifically?

>

>

Mycelized A can be given in drops in the mouth Or if you don't need high

dosages, in cod liver oil - depends on the age of the baby Sheri

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certainly! But with measles you need very very high doses of Vitamin

A for 2 days -more than you could ever eat!

Sheri

At 05:45 PM 9/25/2008, you wrote:

>Here's an alternate approach:

>

>As the mom, eat a diet rich in tender greens, fruits, and vegetables,

>uncooked to whatever extent you are willing. Then breastfeed the baby.

>

>Supplements always indicate a broken diet. Fix the diet, the problem, don't

>patch the symptom. Of course, that may take more effort on your part, but

>then you volunteered to be a parent, I imagine. It's a big job, let's do it!

>

>Best,

>Elchanan

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Unless you have access to polar bear liver (4 grams would give that

dose)... :) or really, really, really like beef liver...(to the tune of

400 grams of it).

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...>wrote:

> certainly! But with measles you need very very high doses of Vitamin

> A for 2 days -more than you could ever eat!

> Sheri

>

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Regarding multi ...(my opinion). In a perfect world not needing

supplemental vitamins would be true.

However, you can't trust the companies that make them. So, that is a

big problem.

On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> certainly! But with measles you need very very high doses of Vitamin

> A for 2 days -more than you could ever eat!

> Sheri

>

> At 05:45 PM 9/25/2008, you wrote:

> >Here's an alternate approach:

> >

> >As the mom, eat a diet rich in tender greens, fruits, and vegetables,

> >uncooked to whatever extent you are willing. Then breastfeed the

> baby.

> >

> >Supplements always indicate a broken diet. Fix the diet, the

> problem, don't

> >patch the symptom. Of course, that may take more effort on your

> part, but

> >then you volunteered to be a parent, I imagine. It's a big job,

> let's do it!

> >

> >Best,

> >Elchanan

>

>

>

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I took Kroeger Herbs Sunny A which is both. I take 25,000 iU per day so it must have been all in one day. I think I just did it one day. It's been quite a while since I did it.

Steph

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Can Iodine cause a change in the frequency of menstrual cycle's? I have been on thyroid medication for almost a year now. I started Iodoral about a month ago and noticed my periods have gone from every 26-28 days to every 17-21 days. Any help is much appreciated.

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No I don't think it will fix it. RT3 issues are an issue of the body producing too much T3 and that is due to liver toxicity, stress and poor diet. Check out www.liverdoctor.com This is the diet that Dr. Brownstein uses for his patients for RT3 issues.

Steph

Re: vitamin a

i am wondering if you think that iodine will help with an RT3 issue...one of my hashi daughters is struggling with it...she is on 3.25 grains of NT does iodine protocol atp cofactors dmg etc..has been doing this for about 5 months but her RT3 is still high...her basal body temps stay low..never above 97.2...she does not seem to be ovulating cause there is never a rise in temp mid cycle...her cycles are short about 21 days...i have told her to keep on doing iron to raise ferritin which was 30 or so when last tested 4 months ago...and she has increased b12 and other b's...she is due to see doctor this week and i am wondering if we should address the rt3 thing...her FT3 is high and so is her FT4 but she is still hypo with low body temp and weight gain...any ideas...ever see anyone reverse a problem with RT3 doing iodine protocol and not taking HC...i am waiting on her salivary cortisol test to see where she is on that..is there anything else i should look at..wish i had done the cortisol testing long time ago.

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That's what I take. Sorry I don't have another option.

Steph

vitamin A

OK, so I was all ready to click the "buy now" button for the Kroeger Sunny A and I decided to email Kroeger Herbs and clarify that it does not contain soy. Their reply follows. Kroeger Herbs replied:The Sunny A has beta carotene, which contains soy.Please let us know if you have any other questions.Sincerely,The KHP StaffDoes beta carotene come from soy? I tried to research this on google and could find nothing that clarified the connection. I try to avoid soy. Any thoughts.

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There are a lot of products “derived”

from soy and beta carotene is one as is Vitamin A, some Vitamin E, etc. This can be done in a way in which the

negative effects of soy are not included.

For instance all USP progesterone is derived either from the Mexican

Wild Yam Root (not extract) or the Soy Plant. They both make IDENTICAL USP

progesterone. No difference. However, convincing people of this is

difficult, at best.

I don’t know much about Kroeger Herbs (I do know about Hanna Kroeger) or their

purity. According to one source: Soybean oil is used as a stable carrier

for many products. It is an excellent inert carrier (I don’t think that

any ingredient is “inert”). Most soy allergies are actually

allergies to the soy " protein. " Soybean oil does not contain soy protein.

The next question to ask about the soybean oil is if it is genetically

modified. In 1995 Monsanto

introduced Roundup Ready soybeans

that have been genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup. In

1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the

United States were genetically modified. In 2006, the figure was 89%.

There is a lot of information flying around about the safety of soy, but not

many make the distinction between soy oil and soybean protein.

Be Well

Dr.L

OK, so I was all ready to click the " buy

now " button for the Kroeger Sunny A and I decided to email Kroeger Herbs

and clarify that it does not contain soy. Their reply follows.

Kroeger Herbs replied:

The Sunny A has beta carotene, which contains soy. Please let us know if you have any other

questions.

Sincerely, The

KHP Staff

Does beta carotene come from soy? I tried to research this on google and could

find nothing that clarified the connection. I try to avoid soy. Any thoughts.

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Thank you for clarifying that.I found it impossible to find Vit.e without soy oil.So there is not any goitrogens in soy oil? I've read the only safe soy is fermented. Pat

iodine From: drlanphier@...Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:57:09 -0600Subject: RE: vitamin A

There are a lot of products “derived” from soy and beta carotene is one as is Vitamin A, some Vitamin E, etc. This can be done in a way in which the negative effects of soy are not included. For instance all USP progesterone is derived either from the Mexican Wild Yam Root (not extract) or the Soy Plant. They both make IDENTICAL USP progesterone. No difference. However, convincing people of this is difficult, at best.I don’t know much about Kroeger Herbs (I do know about Hanna Kroeger) or their purity. According to one source: Soybean oil is used as a stable carrier for many products. It is an excellent inert carrier (I don’t think that any ingredient is “inert”). Most soy allergies are actually allergies to the soy "protein." Soybean oil does not contain soy protein.The next question to ask about the soybean oil is if it is genetically modified. In 1995 Monsanto introduced Roundup Ready soybeans that have been genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup. In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified. In 2006, the figure was 89%.There is a lot of information flying around about the safety of soy, but not many make the distinction between soy oil and soybean protein.

Be WellDr.L

OK, so I was all ready to click the "buy now" button for the Kroeger Sunny A and I decided to email Kroeger Herbs and clarify that it does not contain soy. Their reply follows. Kroeger Herbs replied:The Sunny A has beta carotene, which contains soy. Please let us know if you have any other questions.Sincerely, The KHP StaffDoes beta carotene come from soy? I tried to research this on google and could find nothing that clarified the connection. I try to avoid soy. Any thoughts.

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Dr. Lanphier, Are you then of the opinion that if a vitamin/supplement contains soybean oil from a non genetically modified source that it would be safe for someone with a diseased thyroid to consume? Thank you for taking the time to clarify this matter.

From: Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier@...>iodine Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:57:09 PMSubject: RE: vitamin A

There are a lot of products “derived†from soy and beta carotene is one as is Vitamin A, some Vitamin E, etc. This can be done in a way in which the negative effects of soy are not included. For instance all USP progesterone is derived either from the Mexican Wild Yam Root (not extract) or the Soy Plant. They both make IDENTICAL USP progesterone. No difference. However, convincing people of this is difficult, at best.I don’t know much about Kroeger Herbs (I do know about Hanna Kroeger) or their purity. According to one source: Soybean oil is used as a stable carrier for many products. It is an excellent inert

carrier (I don’t think that any ingredient is “inertâ€). Most soy allergies are actually allergies to the soy "protein." Soybean oil does not contain soy protein.The next question to ask about the soybean oil is if it is genetically modified. In 1995 Monsanto introduced Roundup Ready soybeans that have been genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup. In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified. In 2006, the figure was 89%.There is a lot of information flying around about the safety of soy, but not many make the distinction between soy oil and soybean protein.

Be WellDr.L

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