vitamin A

[Guest guest]

Here is a soy-free formula:

Garden Of Life -- Vitamin Code Raw Vitamin E Complex

>> OK, ... for the Kroeger Sunny A and I decided to email Kroeger Herbs and

clarify that it does not contain soy. Their reply follows.

> The Sunny A has beta carotene, which contains soy.

.... Does beta carotene come from soy? I tried to research this on google and

could find nothing that clarified the connection. I try to avoid soy. Any

thoughts.

>

[Guest guest]

That’s because soy oil as well as rice

bran oil is rich in the full-spectrum (tocopherols and tocotrienols) of Vitamin

E.

As far as goitrogens, there are numerous types of foods that are listed as goitrogens and the list seems

to continue to grow - from soybeans to strawberries to cabbage and many other

very healthy foods. For most people

it is not good for their over-all health to avoid all these foods. In fact, I think it can become a huge

stressor for some people, not to mention fostering vitamin/mineral depletion. Again, as always, it is important to

look at the whole-body synergistically and not just a particular organ. I believe it is very important to have a

large variety of healthy, organic fruits and vegetables in the diet. They are needed so that the body can

heal and repair properly. But

it’s also about moderation and while some foods are considered estrogenic

or goitrogens, it doesn’t mean the body will always use them in that

way. Going on overload, especially

for those that eat a lot of pre-packaged foods that contain processed soy or

are eating, on a daily basis, a tremendous amount of goitrogenic

fruits/vegetables is what causes concern.

Dr.

Ben Kim: It is important to understand that it’s best

to eat a variety of foods. Anytime you eat too much of one specific food,

especially if that food is rich in protein, you may increase your risk of

eventually becoming intolerant to that food. Fermentation is a “natural”

type of processing that doesn’t have the potential to hurt the nutrient

value of soybeans the way that high temperature processing techniques do. (Organic

soy oil is usually derived using very low temps.)

From http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/foods/cruciferous/:

Very

high intakes of cruciferous vegetables, such as cabbage and turnips, have been

found to cause hypothyroidism (insufficient thyroid hormone) in animals (68). Two

mechanisms have been identified to explain this effect. The hydrolysis of some

glucosinolates found in cruciferous vegetables (e.g., progoitrin) may yield a

compound known as goitrin, which has been found to interfere with thyroid

hormone synthesis. The hydrolysis of another class of glucosinolates, known as

indole glucosinolates, results in the release of thiocyanate ions, which can

compete with iodine for uptake by the thyroid gland. Increased exposure to

thiocyanate ions from cruciferous vegetable consumption or, more commonly, from

cigarette smoking, does not appear to increase the risk of hypothyroidism

unless accompanied by iodine deficiency. One study in humans found that the

consumption of 150 g/day (5 oz/day) of cooked Brussels sprouts for four weeks

had no adverse effects on thyroid function (69).

I would ask exactly what “very high intakes”

mean? And what happens in animals

doesn’t always happen in humans. I find it interesting that so many of

the foods listed as goitrogens are actually foods that can help the body heal

from degenerative diseases such as cancer as well as even prevent cancer. When I read food studies that indicate

that a certain food is “bad” for you or indicate that a certain

food will always act a certain way in the body, I look at where the study came

from, was it performed on humans or animals and how it was performed. Were they using pre-packaged foods,

frozen foods, cooked foods, raw foods, GMO foods, organic foods? You see, all of this can make a

difference as to the results of the study. And the overall health of

one’s body can certainly make a difference. Yet, we are usually never

given this information. And most likely the effect of many of the foods on the

goitrogen list is less if iodine is sufficient from some of these

foods…some of the foods that contain goitrogens also contain sufficient

iodine in their analysis, such as kale.

Mineral content (including iodine) is also dependent on the soil (as we

all know) the food is grown in...vegetables/fruits grown organically will

usually have a mineral rich soil.

Within the last ten years or so, there has been an

onslaught of “studies” trying to show how certain fruits/vegetables

or their components may actually be harmful. Several years back there were articles

written suggesting organic foods were no different than regular foods –

other than being very expensive.

This is pure propaganda from Big Food. If the foods used in these studies are

genetically modified, highly processed, sprayed with pesticides/herbicides,

etc. then certainly they could harm the body. We must also remember that much of our

food supply is being genetically modified. Thus why it’s becoming very

important to buy organically or to have a backyard garden in order to know

exactly how your food is being grown.

Pat, sorry to be so long in my reply, but I don’t think there is a simple

answer to your question about soy.

Personally, I stay away from soy as much as possible because I

don’t really like the taste and because so much of it IS genetically

modified. It’s not my favorite oil by a long shot. I do take a

full-spectrum Vitamin E that is derived from non-GMO soy and I have clients

with hypothyroidism that use it also with absolutely no problems at all. I source all of the OAW brand supplements

without soy because many times the last thing people are willing to cleans-up

is their diet….which should be the

first thing. My biggest concern is

that our government has allowed soy to be put into everything (it’s

cheap) and Monsanto has a huge monetary stake in this. Anytime one particular food (GMO or

chemically treated) is consumed in tremendous amounts over long periods of

time, health consequences will most likely arise.

Be Well

Dr.L

Thank you for clarifying that.I found it impossible to find Vit.e without soy

oil.So there is not any goitrogens in soy oil? I've read the only

safe soy is fermented. Pat

[Guest guest]

Dr.Lanphier,

The article on soy and goitrigens was not lengthy in the least and had much informative information on which I do agree.I "thank you so much" for your expertise and your time in sending this "food for thought".

Pat

iodine From: drlanphier@...Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:40:54 -0600Subject: RE: vitamin A

That’s because soy oil as well as rice bran oil is rich in the full-spectrum (tocopherols and tocotrienols) of Vitamin E.

As far as goitrogens, there are numerous types of foods that are listed as goitrogens and the list seems to continue to grow - from soybeans to strawberries to cabbage and many other very healthy foods. For most people it is not good for their over-all health to avoid all these foods. In fact, I think it can become a huge stressor for some people, not to mention fostering vitamin/mineral depletion. Again, as always, it is important to look at the whole-body synergistically and not just a particular organ. I believe it is very important to have a large variety of healthy, organic fruits and vegetables in the diet. They are needed so that the body can heal and repair properly. But it’s also about moderation and while some foods are considered estrogenic or goitrogens, it doesn’t mean the body will always use them in that way. Going on overload, especially for those that eat a lot of pre-packaged foods that contain processed soy or are eating, on a daily basis, a tremendous amount of goitrogenic fruits/vegetables is what causes concern.

Dr. Ben Kim: It is important to understand that it’s best to eat a variety of foods. Anytime you eat too much of one specific food, especially if that food is rich in protein, you may increase your risk of eventually becoming intolerant to that food. Fermentation is a “natural” type of processing that doesn’t have the potential to hurt the nutrient value of soybeans the way that high temperature processing techniques do. (Organic soy oil is usually derived using very low temps.)

From http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/foods/cruciferous/: Very high intakes of cruciferous vegetables, such as cabbage and turnips, have been found to cause hypothyroidism (insufficient thyroid hormone) in animals (68). Two mechanisms have been identified to explain this effect. The hydrolysis of some glucosinolates found in cruciferous vegetables (e.g., progoitrin) may yield a compound known as goitrin, which has been found to interfere with thyroid hormone synthesis. The hydrolysis of another class of glucosinolates, known as indole glucosinolates, results in the release of thiocyanate ions, which can compete with iodine for uptake by the thyroid gland. Increased exposure to thiocyanate ions from cruciferous vegetable consumption or, more commonly, from cigarette smoking, does not appear to increase the risk of hypothyroidism unless accompanied by iodine deficiency. One study in humans found that the consumption of 150 g/day (5 oz/day) of cooked Brussels sprouts for four weeks had no adverse effects on thyroid function (69).

I would ask exactly what “very high intakes” mean? And what happens in animals doesn’t always happen in humans. I find it interesting that so many of the foods listed as goitrogens are actually foods that can help the body heal from degenerative diseases such as cancer as well as even prevent cancer. When I read food studies that indicate that a certain food is “bad” for you or indicate that a certain food will always act a certain way in the body, I look at where the study came from, was it performed on humans or animals and how it was performed. Were they using pre-packaged foods, frozen foods, cooked foods, raw foods, GMO foods, organic foods? You see, all of this can make a difference as to the results of the study. And the overall health of one’s body can certainly make a difference. Yet, we are usually never given this information. And most likely the effect of many of the foods on the goitrogen list is less if iodine is sufficient from some of these foods…some of the foods that contain goitrogens also contain sufficient iodine in their analysis, such as kale. Mineral content (including iodine) is also dependent on the soil (as we all know) the food is grown in...vegetables/fruits grown organically will usually have a mineral rich soil.

Within the last ten years or so, there has been an onslaught of “studies” trying to show how certain fruits/vegetables or their components may actually be harmful. Several years back there were articles written suggesting organic foods were no different than regular foods – other than being very expensive. This is pure propaganda from Big Food. If the foods used in these studies are genetically modified, highly processed, sprayed with pesticides/herbicides, etc. then certainly they could harm the body. We must also remember that much of our food supply is being genetically modified. Thus why it’s becoming very important to buy organically or to have a backyard garden in order to know exactly how your food is being grown.Pat, sorry to be so long in my reply, but I don’t think there is a simple answer to your question about soy. Personally, I stay away from soy as much as possible because I don’t really like the taste and because so much of it IS genetically modified. It’s not my favorite oil by a long shot. I do take a full-spectrum Vitamin E that is derived from non-GMO soy and I have clients with hypothyroidism that use it also with absolutely no problems at all. I source all of the OAW brand supplements without soy because many times the last thing people are willing to cleans-up is their diet….which should be the first thing. My biggest concern is that our government has allowed soy to be put into everything (it’s cheap) and Monsanto has a huge monetary stake in this. Anytime one particular food (GMO or chemically treated) is consumed in tremendous amounts over long periods of time, health consequences will most likely arise.Be WellDr.L

Thank you for clarifying that.I found it impossible to find Vit.e without soy oil.So there is not any goitrogens in soy oil? I've read the only safe soy is fermented. Pat

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

I think I may have ordered the wrong A. I thought I was getting retinol, but

this says palmitate. I thought that was natural A. I thought with Carlson cod

liver oil, we were to take A twice a day, and now you mention once a day. This

is what I got.

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Vitamin-A-10-000-IU-100-Tablets/1017?at=0

Thanks,

C.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee,

I have not checked your updates in a long time. I did more reading in Price

foundation site last night. It seems even at 10,000 units twice a day if taken

with cod liver oil, of synthetic does not appear to be toxic,(that was the

understanding I got), but from shark liver oil is better.

C

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> > I think I may have ordered the wrong A. I thought I was getting retinol, but

this says palmitate. I thought that was natural A. I thought with Carlson cod

liver oil, we were to take A twice a day, and now you mention once a day. This

is what I got.

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Vitamin-A-10-000-IU-100-Tablets/1017?at=0

>

> +++Hi ,

>

> You should have gotten Now Foods, Shark Liver Oil Vitamin A, which is listed

on my iHerb page with Carlson Cod Liver Oil:

> http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Shark-Liver-Oil-400-mg-120-Softgels/815?at=0

>

> See this iHerb page:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

,

Why did Bee recommend you take extra vit. a for 3 months?

thanks,

>

> Hello Bee jenny here again. you recommended i take extra vitamin a for 3

months. " Take 90,000 IU of vitamin A per day, including the amount you are

getting in your cod liver oil " ...

>

> Ive been taking 6 shark live oil 10,000 iu each NOW BRAND and cod liver oil 2

spoons full. just want to make sure i'm doing it right.

>

> thank you so much

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> Why did Bee recommend you take extra vit. a for 3 months?

>

+++Hi ,

That message from was last May.

Extra vitamin A can help some women who have female-related issues.

Bee