High cholesterol

[Guest guest]

The majority of our cholesterol issues is NOT what we eat, but our heredity and

also exercise. What does your doctor say about it at your annual physical? If

you've not had one in a year or so, get one NOW. Those commercials for

cholesterol meds that emphasize it is your genes, plus your lifestyle are right.

I have a friend a few years older than us who eats as perfectly as possible and

is on heavy cholesterol meds. She's happy when her cholesterol is under 500!!!

I'd also, in general, question how accurate some of the " free screenings " , no

matter what they're for.

Finally, cholesterol is sensitive to what and when you ate, etc. Had you fasted

for 12 hours before the test?

Just a few thoughts.

dan

High cholesterol

> Has anyone's cholesterol actually gone up since they lost weight? I

> had a free screening and my cholesterol was 293! I expected it to be

> much lower as I think I am pretty good most of the time. Lost 50

> pounds, no, or almost no fast food, minimum fried foods and when I do

> stir fry veggies I use olive oil or canola oil. My biggest " sin " is

> honey butter on rice cakes once in a while. And, I havn't had them in

> a couple of weeks :-( What gives???? Should I be on meds??? I am 59

> and weigh 174, 5'1 "

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristi,

Please consider taking a look at healingnaturallybybee.com

Best to you,

Anne

High Cholesterol

Hello everyone,

I come from a family where having high cholesterol is almost a

passage of rites. My grandfather died at 45 of a MI and his diet was

basically farm products and anything fried was done so in bacon fat.

Fast forward a few generations and all of his descendents are dx'd

with high cholesterol. So much so, that in my mid thirties, I

developed an orange patch on the side of my face, along my jaw line,

that after being biopsied, was found to be lipids that were

collecting under my skin. I went to see a dietician and I proceeded

on a 3 month stretch of what I call " The no fat, no flavor, cardboard

diet " . I had been eating an average diet, definitely not loaded in

fast-food, but butter and homemade foods I had been been making from

scratch. Needless to say, my overall cholesterol was in the lower

300's. Barring the orange patch, every one of my siblings are also in

the 300's overall, as well.

Well, that diet only brought it down a few notches, and I happily

went on a statin to keep my cholesterol, HDL, LDL, etc, all wnl, as

they were also outside of their healthy boundries too. Fast forward a

few more years, and I am now in my mid to upper forties, on a super-

statin and eating organic vegies and stuffs. I have noticed if I

forget to take my medication a few days in a row, my skin will start

to break out and get oily and female issues become much more painful.

Three years ago, I went to the ER, as I was so bloated after eating a

high fat meal (yum-yum), that I was incompacitated with pain. The IV

nurse stuck me to get blood and it shot out of my veins like a

gieyser. The thinning was due to my statin, I knew, as before taking

one, I had seen how sticky and globby it was. They also took an x-ray

of my gut and told me I had atheroschloresis in my abdominal aorta.

And I've got to be straight forward and honest...as this is my body

AND my life...I am having a very difficult time digesting the

information about coconut oil as being more healthy for someone,

especially me. Where is the independent research data on this? I am

definitely not going to stop taking my medication w/o something that

is more than just opinion and " personal stories. "

May I add that I am not overweight? If I knew that I could stop

taking my medication and not put my health in jeopardy, I would do so

in a heartbeat. However, I need more than opinion. I need some

scientific factual data.

Kristi

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Kristi -

What did your Doctor say was the CAUSE of your elevated cholesterol

levels?

Did he/she explain to you how exactly the statin meds you are on lower

your cholesteorol?

Did he/she say that the cause of your face issues were directly rated

to your cholesterol intake (as in eating dietary cholesterol)? Or was

it just correlated in time?

Did he/she tell you about the benefits of high blood cholestorol?

Are you aware that 80% of the cholesterol in your body is endogenous?

Did you know that 50% of the cell wall is made of cholesterol? You

have over one trillion cells!!

Did you know that the very first food we eat when we come into this

world is cholesterol?

Did you know that cholesteorol is the precursor to every hormone in

your body?

Did you know that cholesterol is one of the most potent anti-oxidants

in the human body?

I could go on and on.....

The health benefits of coconut oil have been the topic of at least 4

books I can think of off the top of my head. It's use as a food in

traditional cultures is centuries old. The scientific research on

coconut oil and the compounds it contains - everything from how it's

metabolized to it's antifungal properties - is very well documented.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that statin drugs have harmed

thousands, if not millions more people than coconut oil has or ever

will! The research on the effects of that drug are rife in the medical

litterature.

A good place to start leaning about coconut oil is here:

http://www.coconutoil.com/research.htm

http://www.coconutoil.com/peer_reviewed.htm

A good place to start learning about statin drugs is here:

http://www.coconutoil.com/cholesterol.htm

Hope that helps!

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I come from a family where having high cholesterol is almost a

> passage of rites. My grandfather died at 45 of a MI and his diet was

> basically farm products and anything fried was done so in bacon fat.

>

> Fast forward a few generations and all of his descendents are dx'd

> with high cholesterol. So much so, that in my mid thirties, I

> developed an orange patch on the side of my face, along my jaw line,

> that after being biopsied, was found to be lipids that were

> collecting under my skin. I went to see a dietician and I proceeded

> on a 3 month stretch of what I call " The no fat, no flavor, cardboard

> diet " . I had been eating an average diet, definitely not loaded in

> fast-food, but butter and homemade foods I had been been making from

> scratch. Needless to say, my overall cholesterol was in the lower

> 300's. Barring the orange patch, every one of my siblings are also in

> the 300's overall, as well.

>

> Well, that diet only brought it down a few notches, and I happily

> went on a statin to keep my cholesterol, HDL, LDL, etc, all wnl, as

> they were also outside of their healthy boundries too. Fast forward a

> few more years, and I am now in my mid to upper forties, on a super-

> statin and eating organic vegies and stuffs. I have noticed if I

> forget to take my medication a few days in a row, my skin will start

> to break out and get oily and female issues become much more painful.

>

> Three years ago, I went to the ER, as I was so bloated after eating a

> high fat meal (yum-yum), that I was incompacitated with pain. The IV

> nurse stuck me to get blood and it shot out of my veins like a

> gieyser. The thinning was due to my statin, I knew, as before taking

> one, I had seen how sticky and globby it was. They also took an x-ray

> of my gut and told me I had atheroschloresis in my abdominal aorta.

>

> And I've got to be straight forward and honest...as this is my body

> AND my life...I am having a very difficult time digesting the

> information about coconut oil as being more healthy for someone,

> especially me. Where is the independent research data on this? I am

> definitely not going to stop taking my medication w/o something that

> is more than just opinion and " personal stories. "

>

> May I add that I am not overweight? If I knew that I could stop

> taking my medication and not put my health in jeopardy, I would do so

> in a heartbeat. However, I need more than opinion. I need some

> scientific factual data.

>

> Kristi

>

[Guest guest]

My husband has the same sort inherited high cholesterol problem. This is usually

caused by the liver working over time creating its own cholesterol. At one point

his LDL was over 500! It is now under 200 and getting better all the time. He is

not taking any meds for it either.

The main thing that has helped him is cutting his sugar intake (for both of us

really but he was the big sugar addicted)! We hardly do any thing with processed

sugar any more and he rarely drinks pop. He (we) is taking a good quality cod

liver oil most days and I am starting him on Selenium too (I already take this).

We eat eggs, raw full milk, coconut oil and eat a more WAP diet. Now mind ya,

we are not 100% there but well over 50% and getting better all the time. Most of

our food is organic and made from scratch. So this way I know what is in it.

We have greatly increased our veggie intake but also our meat intake too. We eat

pasture raised meats most of the time and trout from our friends at Star Prairie

(it is the best!! If we could we would be eating it daily!!!). Our carbohydrate

intake is small well over half of it is whole grain. We do eat potatoes and

brown rice too. (My hubby piles on the butter too! LOL)

At my last doctor appointment all my blood work was down and my doctor told me

to keep doing what I have been doing! LOL. My LDL has gone steadily down since I

started the WAP diet. So hubby and I are both living examples of how well the

WAP works and restores good health not only outwardly but on the cellular level

as well!

Oh and both of us now have nice low blood pressure too!!! Mine was getting a bit

on the border line of high but now is running 104/74. Hubby's was always low but

was starting to raise but now is back to his normal low of 96/68.

The main thing to remember is that it will not change over night. It takes time.

We have been at it for a few years and have had our ups and downs too. Life and

health is a journey, enjoy it and embrace it.

Kimi

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There is a natural product call cholestforte which will reduce you cholesterol without drugs.

Kate

On Nov 14, 2007 11:47 AM, Umali <tranquilart@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am needing a little input here. I am halfway through my second round of Phase 2. I have lost a total of 42 pounds over the course of my two phases, feel the best I have ever felt and believe in this program completely.

My doctor, who does not know I have been on this program ordered a follow up blood work on me. She ordered one six months ago. I have had another in between these two which was required by GHI Medical when I began the program. I was shocked to see that my good cholesterol went down and my bad went up. My triglycerides have elevated just a bit but are well within normal.She has prescribed a medication to lower my cholesterol. I am a little concerned as I am wondering if the HCG might have a temporary affect on my cholesterol reading. The pharmacist who knows I have been injecting HCG wants me to contact my physician. I am reluctant to do so as I know she will be negative about this method of weight loss. She always says, cut calories and exercise...yeah if that worked we would all be thin right? I was thinking my cholesterol would have dropped significantly and instead it raised.

Has anyone like Mike O experienced this?

I appreciate any feedback as I want to avoid taking this medication and would prefer to do it naturally. I purchased some excellent Omega 3-6-9's and some flax oil and some Vitamin C to start the natural process.

Thanks for future feedback!

[Guest guest]

Statin drugs prevent your liver from manufacturing cholesterol and in the process, prevent the production of the anti-oxidant Co-enzyme Q-10 as well. I would never consider taking a statin (mainly because I do not think that cholesterol is a valid marker for heart disease), but if you do at some point, be sure to supplement with Co-Q-10 to make up for it.

CC

High cholesterol

Hello,

I am needing a little input here. I am halfway through my second round of Phase 2. I have lost a total of 42 pounds over the course of my two phases, feel the best I have ever felt and believe in this program completely.

My doctor, who does not know I have been on this program ordered a follow up blood work on me. She ordered one six months ago. I have had another in between these two which was required by GHI Medical when I began the program. I was shocked to see that my good cholesterol went down and my bad went up. My triglycerides have elevated just a bit but are well within normal.She has prescribed a medication to lower my cholesterol. I am a little concerned as I am wondering if the HCG might have a temporary affect on my cholesterol reading. The pharmacist who knows I have been injecting HCG wants me to contact my physician. I am reluctant to do so as I know she will be negative about this method of weight loss. She always says, cut calories and exercise...yeah if that worked we would all be thin right? I was thinking my cholesterol would have dropped significantly and instead it raised.

Has anyone like Mike O experienced this?

I appreciate any feedback as I want to avoid taking this medication and would prefer to do it naturally. I purchased some excellent Omega 3-6-9's and some flax oil and some Vitamin C to start the natural process.

Thanks for future feedback!

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[Guest guest]

i was on cholesterol medicine and got cancer!!! be very careful of

any rx you use because they all have side effects ! your cholesterol

count is not a true marker of heart disease as many doctors will tell

you. Your choolesterol count could be due to the fat you lost on the

diet. once you are off p2 you can get your good cholestrol up by

using only extra virgin oil to cook and use for all other things. all

other veg oils are bad for you including reg olive oil. is

right about the CoQ10.

>

> Hello,

> I am needing a little input here. I am halfway through my second

round of

> Phase 2. I have lost a total of 42 pounds over the course of my

two phases,

> feel the best I have ever felt and believe in this program

completely.

> My doctor, who does not know I have been on this program ordered a

follow up

> blood work on me. She ordered one six months ago. I have had

another in

> between these two which was required by GHI Medical when I began

the program

> I was shocked to see that my good cholesterol went down and my bad

went up.

> My triglycerides have elevated just a bit but are well within

normal.She has

> prescribed a medication to lower my cholesterol. I am a little

concerned as

> I am wondering if the HCG might have a temporary affect on my

cholesterol

> reading. The pharmacist who knows I have been injecting HCG wants

me to

> contact my physician. I am reluctant to do so as I know she will be

negative

> about this method of weight loss. She always says, cut calories and

> exercise...yeah if that worked we would all be thin right? I was

thinking my

> cholesterol would have dropped significantly and instead it raised.

> Has anyone like Mike O experienced this?

> I appreciate any feedback as I want to avoid taking this medication

and

> would prefer to do it naturally. I purchased some excellent Omega

3-6-9's

> and some flax oil and some Vitamin C to start the natural process.

> Thanks for future feedback!

>

[Guest guest]

Dr Simeons addressed the higher cholesterol reading in his

manuscript. He wrote:

" When the total amount of circulating cholesterol is normal before

treatment, this absolute amount is neither significantly increased

nor decreased. But when an obese patient with an abnormally high

cholesterol and already showing signs of arteriosclerosis is treated

with HCG, his blood pressure drops and his coronary circulation seems

to improve, and yet his total blood cholesterol may soar to heights

never before reached.

At first this greatly alarmed us. But then we saw that the patients

came to no harm even if treatment was continued and we found in

follow-up examinations undertaken some months after treatment that

the cholesterol was much better than it had been before treatment.

As the increase is mostly in the form of the not dangerous free

cholesterol, we gradually came to welcome the phenomenon. Today we

believe that the rise is entirely due to the liberation of recent

cholesterol deposits that have not yet undergone calcification in the

arterial wall and therefore highly beneficial. "

I hope this eases your mind.

Sandy

>

> Hello,

> I am needing a little input here. I am halfway through my second

round of

> Phase 2. I have lost a total of 42 pounds over the course of my

two phases,

> feel the best I have ever felt and believe in this program

completely.

> My doctor, who does not know I have been on this program ordered a

follow up

> blood work on me. She ordered one six months ago. I have had

another in

> between these two which was required by GHI Medical when I began

the program

> I was shocked to see that my good cholesterol went down and my bad

went up.

> My triglycerides have elevated just a bit but are well within

normal.She has

> prescribed a medication to lower my cholesterol. I am a little

concerned as

> I am wondering if the HCG might have a temporary affect on my

cholesterol

> reading. The pharmacist who knows I have been injecting HCG wants

me to

> contact my physician. I am reluctant to do so as I know she will be

negative

> about this method of weight loss. She always says, cut calories and

> exercise...yeah if that worked we would all be thin right? I was

thinking my

> cholesterol would have dropped significantly and instead it raised.

> Has anyone like Mike O experienced this?

> I appreciate any feedback as I want to avoid taking this medication

and

> would prefer to do it naturally. I purchased some excellent Omega

3-6-9's

> and some flax oil and some Vitamin C to start the natural process.

> Thanks for future feedback!

>

[Guest guest]

Good find, Sandy!

CC

Re: High cholesterol

Dr Simeons addressed the higher cholesterol reading in his manuscript. He wrote:"When the total amount of circulating cholesterol is normal before treatment, this absolute amount is neither significantly increased nor decreased. But when an obese patient with an abnormally high cholesterol and already showing signs of arteriosclerosis is treated with HCG, his blood pressure drops and his coronary circulation seems to improve, and yet his total blood cholesterol may soar to heights never before reached.At first this greatly alarmed us. But then we saw that the patients came to no harm even if treatment was continued and we found in follow-up examinations undertaken some months after treatment that the cholesterol was much better than it had been before treatment. As the increase is mostly in the form of the not dangerous free cholesterol, we gradually came to welcome the phenomenon. Today we

believe that the rise is entirely due to the liberation of recent cholesterol deposits that have not yet undergone calcification in the arterial wall and therefore highly beneficial."I hope this eases your mind.Sandy>> Hello,> I am needing a little input here. I am halfway through my second round of> Phase 2. I have lost a total of 42 pounds over the course of my two phases,> feel the best I have ever felt and believe in this program completely. > My doctor, who does not know I have been on this program ordered a follow up> blood work on me. She ordered one six months ago. I have had another in> between these two which was required by GHI

Medical when I began the program> I was shocked to see that my good cholesterol went down and my bad went up.> My triglycerides have elevated just a bit but are well within normal.She has> prescribed a medication to lower my cholesterol. I am a little concerned as> I am wondering if the HCG might have a temporary affect on my cholesterol> reading. The pharmacist who knows I have been injecting HCG wants me to> contact my physician. I am reluctant to do so as I know she will be negative> about this method of weight loss. She always says, cut calories and> exercise...yeah if that worked we would all be thin right? I was thinking my> cholesterol would have dropped significantly and instead it raised. > Has anyone like Mike O experienced this?> I appreciate any feedback as I want to avoid taking this medication and> would prefer to do it

naturally. I purchased some excellent Omega 3-6-9's> and some flax oil and some Vitamin C to start the natural process.> Thanks for future feedback!>

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[Guest guest]

Your mother is under medicated as high cholesterol is a side effect of under medication or non medicated hypothyroidism. My cholesterol was 10 and even with a low fat diet, taking supplements to reduce it it never went below 7, now on armour it is a very healthy 4.3.

Luv nne

for about 6 months and is taking 50 mcg of levotyroxine, she is 65years old and normally very active. She has just recently had bloodsdone by GP and her Ferritin is 36 and cholesterol 6.6

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila Lizzie here, I wondered if you would mind giving me some advice for myMum. Just to give you some background - she has been diagnosed hypoTfor about 6 months and is taking 50 mcg of levotyroxine, she is 65years old and normally very active.

After 6 months of treatment, she should be on a much higher dose of thyroxine than 50. Even if her blood results are within the normal range, she should have her dose increased until her symptoms are relieved.

She has just recently had bloodsdone by GP and her Ferritin is 36 and cholesterol 6.6 despite eating alow fat diet.I think that the cholesterol which has gone up since lasttest shows that her T4 treatment is not adequate despite her TSH being0.26. Her GP has said her Ferritin is normal she also has borderlinehypertension.

For some people, perhaps 36 is OK, but for somebody who is hypothyroid and who has a rising cholesterol and BP, she should be tried on 200 mgs of Ferrous Sulphate to get her body functioning better. With low iron, nothing will work correctly.

Please could you advise me what supplements she needs tobring down her cholesterol. I have advised that she ask her GP forFerrous sulphate tabs and also that we need to know her T3 level tosee if she is converting.

She needs to try 350 mgs of NON-FLUSHING Niacin which is Vitamin B3 and also 300 mgs CoEnzymeQ10. These will help both her rising cholesterol and rising BP. She might not be able to get her Free T3 tested because it is the laboratories who are refusing to do these. She can get tested through NPTech Services (£17), that way, if you post her results and reference range for each test, we would have a better idea of what is happening to her. Has she also been tested to see if she has antibodies to her thyroid?

I think she will pay privately for thisblood test. I went with her to see GP initially who could see noconnection between T4 and T3 level and believed that TSH told youeverything.

Well, sorry to sound a little sarcastic, but she is only a GP and obviously not qualified in anything to do with thyroid disease, so, she knows nothing about the fact that T4 is 'inactive' and needs to convert to the 'active' hormone T3. T3 has to get into every cell to make it function. Without T3, we is dead!

She is also suffering from episodes of breathlessness onexertion which I think may be another indication that she is notconverting the T4. GP has done chest xray and ecg and both have comeback normal.

Agaion, breathlessness is related to being hypothyroidism and not being treated correctly. Read the following - there is a lot about breahting problems and the thyroid if you google these together.

Hypothyroidism presenting with respiratory muscle weakness.Laroche CM, Cairns T, Moxham J, Green M.Respiratory Muscle Laboratory, Brompton Hospital, London, England.A 58-yr-old woman presented with recurrent chest infections, breathlessness, and orthopnea. She complained of nonspecific tiredness and aching limbs. A chest radiograph showed an elevated right hemidiaphragm. Thyroid function tests showed her to be severely hypothyroid (T4 = 23 nmol/L; TSH greater than 50 mU/L). Measurement of maximal respiratory mouth pressures (expiratory: 50 cm H2O, normal, 94 +/- 33; inspiratory: 15 cm H2O, normal, 71 +/- 27) suggested global respiratory muscle weakness. Severe bilateral diaphragm weakness was demonstrated by a greatly reduced maximal transdiaphragmatic pressure (Pdi) (Pdi Pimax = 0, normal, 65 +/- 31 cm H2O; sniff Pdi = 25 cm H2O, normal, 121 +/- 25). No Pdi was detectable on stimulation of the right phrenic nerve, whereas, on the left, it was 11 cm H2O (normal 7 to 15 cm H2O). Phrenic nerve conduction time was prolonged to both sides (right, 12 ms, left, 10 ms; normal, less than 9.5 ms). The relaxation rate of Pdi after a maximal sniff and after bilateral phrenic nerve stimulation was abnormally slow (7.4%/10 ms, 6.3%/10 ms, respectively). Three months after starting treatment with thyroxine she had become euthyroid, and phrenic nerve conduction times and Pdi relaxation rates had returned to normal. Maximal respiratory pressures, vital capacity, and maximal voluntary ventilation improved progressively on treatment, although maximal respiratory pressures still had not reached the normal range after six months. We conclude that hypothyroidism may present with breathlessness due to respiratory muscle weakness and/or phrenic nerve neuropathy and is reversible with treatment.

Source - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=3195839 & dopt=Abstract

I would welcome your advice and thankyou for all you do for us.Love Lizzie

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Karni,

I am taking no meds at all. The bad chloresterol was 174. I am seeing my Dr on Tues and will see what she says.

Thank you to everyone who answered. This group has been such a great help. It really helps to know I'm not alone.

Arlene

From: Karni <k.r.perez@...>Subject: high cholesterol Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:12 PM

Arlene,

Did your cholesterol test differentiate between high- and low-density? Are you by any chance taking hormones? Once I got a result on a blood test that indicated high cholesterol, and then my gynecologist told me that the hormone I was taking at the time increases blood cholesterol, but it’s the high-density one, which was all right.

Best,

Karni

[Guest guest]

I'll have to read this, thanks. YOu should also forward it to my dad. If I

send it, he won't read it, perhaps from you he will?

>

> I thank Fran Mosher for posting this. For those who don't already know, my

doctor just now told me my cholesterol is high (230). Because of my age (64) I

needed to have a physician fill out a form before I could renew my driver's

license - and since several mb counselors have been saying not a bad idea to get

a check-up, I thought why not.

>  

> But when my doctor seemed very concerned and started talking about I need to

do something about this, I did get scared. I was thinking of posting and asking

and then this wonderful article was on my screen. Now I go back to wondering if

it's such a good idea to get into the allopathic treadmill.

>  

> Also because of Pirello's experience, I've decided to get a bone

density test - any good sane articles on that issue?

>

> http://foodandhealing.com/articles/article-cholesterol.htm

>

> Klara

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this. I have LOVED her cookbook The Book of

Whole Meals - it was my Bible when my son was young. I

used it every day for years. Just came across another copy

a few weeks ago - using it again. I have signed up for her

mailing list.

Regarding cholesterol - I heard just recently that cholesterol

goes up as a woman's estrogen level goes down. I had not

known that. Aging - the loss of estrogen - can really affect

an older woman's health much more than I had understood.

Blessings, EmLet everything you do be done in love.1 Corinthians 16:14

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this. I have LOVED her cookbook The Book of

Whole Meals - it was my Bible when my son was young. I

used it every day for years. Just came across another copy

a few weeks ago - using it again. I have signed up for her

mailing list.

Regarding cholesterol - I heard just recently that cholesterol

goes up as a woman's estrogen level goes down. I had not

known that. Aging - the loss of estrogen - can really affect

an older woman's health much more than I had understood.

Blessings, EmLet everything you do be done in love.1 Corinthians 16:14

[Guest guest]

Bless you, Em!!!!!! You are the first response that has taken into consideration my condition. Not only am I menopausal, but I got into it suddenly because of the hysterectomy - and I am sure there's a connection, just not sure what that connection is. That is the road I need to study more.

When I had my consultation, I was told I need to strengthen my spleen - now to go learn how.

Klara

From: emilie hamilton <emiliehamilton@...> Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:12:16 AMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Thank you for this. I have LOVED her cookbook The Book of

Whole Meals - it was my Bible when my son was young. I

used it every day for years. Just came across another copy

a few weeks ago - using it again. I have signed up for her

mailing list.

Regarding cholesterol - I heard just recently that cholesterol

goes up as a woman's estrogen level goes down. I had not

known that. Aging - the loss of estrogen - can really affect

an older woman's health much more than I had understood.

Blessings, EmLet everything you do be done in love.1 Corinthians 16:14

[Guest guest]

Hi Klara, I'm concerned about this topic too because I had a hysterectomy the last june. I'm 47 and my cholesterol always has been ok. Anyway somebody told me I should be checking my cholesterol frequently now. Do you really think is there a connection? From: Klara LeVine <klara_levine@...> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009

5:24:54 PMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Bless you, Em!!!!!! You are the first response that has taken into consideration my condition. Not only am I menopausal, but I got into it suddenly because of the hysterectomy - and I am sure there's a connection, just not sure what that connection is. That is the road I need to study more.

When I had my consultation, I was told I need to strengthen my spleen - now to go learn how.

Klara

From: emilie hamilton <emiliehamilton>Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:12:16 AMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Thank you for this. I have LOVED her cookbook The Book of

Whole Meals - it was my Bible when my son was young. I

used it every day for years. Just came across another copy

a few weeks ago - using it again. I have signed up for her

mailing list.

Regarding cholesterol - I heard just recently that cholesterol

goes up as a woman's estrogen level goes down. I had not

known that. Aging - the loss of estrogen - can really affect

an older woman's health much more than I had understood.

Blessings, EmLet everything you do be done in love.1 Corinthians 16:14

[Guest guest]

Hi luz,

Are you feeling well? That's the first most important consideration, I guess

I'm not a teacher and really don't know anything about high cholesterol - but do know that I don't want to enter any kind of scare from the doctors, just because they say something

Was your hysterectomy connected to a birth? As that was what worried Rosoff when he gave me the consult. Em, where did you hear about the connection of cholesterol and estrogen?

Does anyone here have info on strengthening the spleen??

Klara

From: luz Marana-Borrero <luzmarana@...> Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 4:02:59 PMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Hi Klara, I'm concerned about this topic too because I had a hysterectomy the last june. I'm 47 and my cholesterol always has been ok. Anyway somebody told me I should be checking my cholesterol frequently now. Do you really think is there a connection?

From: Klara LeVine <klara_levine>Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 5:24:54 PMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Bless you, Em!!!!!! You are the first response that has taken into consideration my condition. Not only am I menopausal, but I got into it suddenly because of the hysterectomy - and I am sure there's a connection, just not sure what that connection is. That is the road I need to study more.

When I had my consultation, I was told I need to strengthen my spleen - now to go learn how.

Klara

From: emilie hamilton <emiliehamilton>Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:12:16 AMSubject: Re: High Cholesterol

Thank you for this. I have LOVED her cookbook The Book of

Whole Meals - it was my Bible when my son was young. I

used it every day for years. Just came across another copy

a few weeks ago - using it again. I have signed up for her

mailing list.

Regarding cholesterol - I heard just recently that cholesterol

goes up as a woman's estrogen level goes down. I had not

known that. Aging - the loss of estrogen - can really affect

an older woman's health much more than I had understood.

Blessings, EmLet everything you do be done in love.1 Corinthians 16:14

[Guest guest]

Hi. I heard a story on public radio recently - not sure whether it was on BBC or NPR - but it attracted my attention as I have felt my estrogen level drop dramatically over the past couple years - can tell the difference. So the story made an impression upon me.

I just found several articles by doing a google search on high cholesterol and lower estrogen levels in women. You can find the articles on the website http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com

Posting one of the articles below. Blessings Em

Menopause Often Means Worsening Cholesterol

Dec. 11 (HealthDay News) -- Blood levels of LDL cholesterol, the bad kind that blocks arteries, go up sharply in women at the time of menopause, but there are no other dramatic changes in risk factors for heart attack, stroke and other cardiovascular problems, a new study has found.

"This suggests that as women approach menopause, they need to have their lipid profiles checked," said A. s, a professor of psychiatry, epidemiology and psychology at the University of Pittsburgh and the study's lead author. A report on the findings is published in the Dec. 15/22 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, which is focused on prevention of cardiovascular disease.

Two other studies reported in the same issue showed that higher doses of statins, drugs that lower LDL cholesterol levels, are more effective over the long run than lower doses in preventing heart attacks, other cardiovascular problems and premature death.

The menopause report is the latest from a study that has followed more than 3,000 American women since 1996, "trying to understand the changes women experience during life," s said. One major change is menopause, when menstruation stops as production of estrogen is reduced.

It has been known that women's risk for cardiovascular problems increases after menopause. "Our study has been checking many different things in relation to menopause and cardiovascular risk," s said. "The primary result is an increase in total cholesterol, due to an increase in LDL cholesterol as well as in apolipoprotein B, the protein carrier for LDL cholesterol."

Those changes occur regardless of ethnic background and "appear to be a fairly uniform response to menopause," she said.

"Other risk factors we measured didn't show a dramatic change," s said. "I expected to see some change in inflammatory factors because some data suggest that hormone users have higher cholesterol levels, but it did not occur."

The lesson she draws from the finding is that women should pay more attention to lifestyle factors associated with cardiovascular risk as menopause approaches and occurs. "They should lose weight and keep it off and increase their physical activity," s said. "Smokers should stop smoking."

The study will continue to chart the changes that occur after menopause, she said, looking at such problems as "what happens if you have a lot of hot flashes."

The two statin studies, sponsored by Pfizer and Bristol-Myers Squibb, which market versions of the cholesterol-lowering drugs, looked at the effects of different dosages, comparing 80 milligrams a day with 40 milligrams daily in nearly 14,000 patients who had experienced one heart attack or other cardiovascular event.

It's been customary to give a higher statin dose after such an event, and the question has been whether to switch back to the lower dose after a while, said Dr. P. Cannon, a cardiologist at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston and a member of the team that performed one of the studies.

"The short answer is that the use of strong statins is helpful in preventing not just a first heart attack or death but could prevent more problems than just one," Cannon said.

That answer emerged because the researchers changed the way they had been counting. In previous studies, they stopped assessing the effect of higher-dose statin use after a single second event. In the two new studies, they kept monitoring the effects after a second event.

"The benefits are even bigger than we thought," Cannon said. "Fifty percent more events were prevented than we have been counting to date because we were just counting the first event."

Other studies in the same issue of the journal reported that:

People who stopped smoking after a first heart attack had half the risk of dying prematurely than did those who continued to smoke.

High blood pressure and atherosclerosis, or hardening of the arteries, develop before puberty in obese children, and increased physical activity decreases them.

Modest weight loss in obese adults, an average of 22 pounds, improves heart muscle and blood vessel structure and function.

SOURCES: A. s, Ph.D., professor, psychiatry, epidemiology and psychology, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, Pittsburgh; P. Cannon, M.D., cardiologist, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Boston; Dec. 15/22, 2009, Journal of the American College of Cardiology

[Guest guest]

-Hi there.

Looked through recent paperwork and I can report that the results are serum

cholesterol level 7.8 mmol/L - the HDL is 1.3 and the LDL is 6.1. the serum

tryglyceride level is 0.09

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacey, Before the TSh test was invented high cholesterol levels were used to diagnose hypo! > thyroid treatment > From: stacey57@...> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:39:27 +0000> Subject: High cholesterol> > HI there,> > I have high cholesterol - 7.6 just now and has been 8.4 in the past - healthy lifestyle etc - told by Gp possibly genetic. Not on statins.> > OK - so here is my theory and both my GP and the endo didn't agree with my thoughts.> > If your thyroid is working very slowly and your metabolism is slow - hence weight gain etc etc - how about how we metabolise fats and if that is slow then then can sit in the body longer adn hey presto, high cholesterol!!!!????> > Others thoughts would be interesting?> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Maureen,

Try eating sweet fruits in the morning, for your lunch you can eat cooked

vegetables, small quantity of grain/ carbohydrates, steamed non- fatty fish and

raw vegetables and in the evening try eating semi- acid and acidic fruits only.

Try to exclude vegetable oil in your meals, dairy products, gluten... and at the

same time be gentle to yourself.

You can also scan some food for blood type " O " in the internet for your

guidance. God bless!

Elvie

________________________________

From: bluequilter1 <bluequilter1@...>

Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 6:58:57 PM

Subject: High Cholesterol

I got a report on my cholesterol levels this morning. The doctor was not happy

and wants me to take a prescription. Since I have MCS (Multiple Chemical

Sensitivity) taking a drug is out of the question.

The technician that called me told me to go on a diet of mostly grains and

beans. I told her that was not possible.

Do any of you have any experience with lowering your cholesterol by natural

means? What can we O's do to keep it down? Or get it down?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Maureen

China Spring

[Guest guest]

A gram (1,000 mg) of Niacin a day takes care of the triglycerides, restrict your

oil consumption to Olive oil and increase your consumption of shaved fresh

ginger (a hunk big as your thumb) and minced garlic (minimum starting point two

cloves a day), (undercooked or added late in the cooking process) and (mumble

grumble whine) walk more and further. Too hot? Ride a bike. Still too hot? Go

swimming every day or you could join the ranks of Mall s, grin.

Oh and taking this much Niacin, if you cheat and sugar/starch it up... your

entire body surface will flush red as a Redneck's neck for about 2-3 minutes,

smile. Shoot the other Mall s might think you're either having a hot flash

or thinking naughty thoughts, chuckle. Anyway as it is oft repeated from on

high, your Diet and Exercise. But shoot you already knew that anyway.

From: bluequilter1 <bluequilter1@...>

Subject: High Cholesterol

Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 6:58 PM

 

I got a report on my cholesterol levels this morning. The doctor was not

happy and wants me to take a prescription. Since I have MCS (Multiple Chemical

Sensitivity) taking a drug is out of the question.

The technician that called me told me to go on a diet of mostly grains and

beans. I told her that was not possible.

Do any of you have any experience with lowering your cholesterol by natural

means? What can we O's do to keep it down? Or get it down?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Maureen

China Spring

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[Guest guest]

Hi Maureen,

I have genetic high cholesterol, and you can lower it through diet and

exercise, although most people would rather continue to eat like they do

and medicate their poor diet with drugs. It's sort of good you can't

take the drugs, because your liver will never be taxed by decades of use.

First, to lower your LDL, you really can't eat a lot of animal products,

Type O or not, you just can't. In fact, you don't have to eat any. I

know, I'm a Type O and don't eat it at all, and my protein levels are

fine, and I exercise daily, alternating between weights and running. I'm

49 and a size six. There are plenty of seafood choices with lots of

protein that are good for cholesterol levels, and you can get a complete

protein by combining beans, legumes and whole grains. So, the vegetarian

myth is really just a myth. You make a big batch of soup with beans,

lentils and barley and you have a complete protein that won't clog your

arteries. Take that same combo and eat it with a big green salad and

fresh veggies (or just use the soup and add a little balsamic vinegar).

The beans have plenty of good fat to keep you feeling full.

Now you want your HDL levels to be as /high /as possible, which helps

counteract the effects of LDL. That's where exercise comes in. Get up an

hour earlier and go for a power walk, or go at lunchtime. This lifestyle

change is critical, and you'll feel great all day. I know I'm less

likely to stray from my diet when I feel good.

At one point I had a total cholesterol level of 277,. which scared me. I

was a size four and ate /no /fat. If your body produces bad fat like

mine does, then you have to give it good fat so it doesn't. I started

adding olive oil to my salads, and after six months I was down to 220

with a high HDL. I started exercising slowly, at first walking. But, I

soon got bored and would walk a little, then run a little, etc. Soon, I

was just running. Then I gained weight when i was pregnant at 42, and

started eating what i cooked for my husband - who's overweight and in

denial. My cholesterol shot up to 350, that was no typo, and I brought

it down again by returning to my healthy diet. I regard it as my diet,

not a diet. Some people have fast food diets, some eat textbook Type O

diets. You have to adopt /your /diet.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:58 PM, bluequilter1 wrote:

> Do any of you have any experience with lowering your cholesterol by

> natural means? What can we O's do to keep it down? Or get it down?

Yes sure, I have no ability to handle drugs either and so I do all my

health care by natural methods.

To get cholesterol down I do this:

* Take Moducare 6 caps a day. (It is plant cholesterol - sterols and

sterolins) While it may seem odd, the body prefers this extract from

pines in a special ratio, to animal cholesterol and it works like

roto rooter for the blood vessels.

When your cholesterol is down, then slack off as it can make it too

low in some people (not me though I use it continuously as I have an

aggravating factor I can not remove and it also helps my immune system).

* Eat Extra virgin olive oil (EVO) at each meal, at least a teaspoon.

* Trim meat fats and replace with EVO

* Take several fish oil caps daily. (This will also shoot up your

good cholesterol and lower trigs)

* Avoid ALL trans fats period. (Make your own salad dressings with

EVO for example)

* Eat plenty of whole eggs. (They improve the good cholesterol).

* Eat low carb diet. (It is NOT food cholesterol that is the issue -

it is carbs dumped on the middle which manufacture bad cholesterol

internally.) ONLY eat the carbs you plan to work off right after the

meal where you eat them.

* GOLDEN RIULE: Carbs without exercise = bad cholesterol.

* Skip all the inflammatory seed oils.

* Never go near soy.

* Never go near artificial sweeteners.

* Skip all the GMO products. Organic is non-GMO.

(Otherwise avoid all Soy or soy lecithin, Cotton or cottonseed oil,

Beet sugar - must be labelled cane sugar, Canola, Corn incl corn

syrup thus incl candy... Avoid fresh zucchioni and summer squash.)

I do a bunch of other stuff but I am not sure which is for

cholesterol. So watch this space, I'll try to remember to check when

I get home! It's definitely easy and safe to do without drugs. I got

my LDL down from over 250 to 115 and I do NOT want it lower...... too

low is unhealthy. My HDL is now 76. That makes my effective LDL 115

minus 76 = 39.

My trigs are 35. You don't want to know what they used to be:-) ANd

these values are despite an illness that usually sky rockets all the

wrong things.

So go for it Maureen:-)

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "