Carbohydrates

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa:

My son Steve has put on quite a bit of weight since taking Paxil. He hates

it and tries hard not to gain weight but often succumbs to carbo cravings.

We just put extra focus on the output and I try to cook more healthily for

him. This is tough as he has contamination issues about the health food

stores where I shop. Usually he manages to boss back his fears about the

food and try it.

It is hard to be pudgy and pre-teen at the same time. Aloha, Kathy (Ha)

kathyh@...

At 10:31 AM 6/7/99 -0400, you wrote:

> Hi I would like some input from the list about carbohydrates.I have

>been reading on the other list about the increase of eating carbohydrates

>on meds and wondered if anyone has noticed this with their children.My

>child has always eaten a lot of starchy foods(she even ate uncooked dry

>noodles as a baby)and she is very overweight.The discussion is about ocd

>and high carbohydrate intake.Thanks Theresa

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa, I noticed a dramatic increase in my daughter's desire for *sweets*,

especially chocolate, following her sudden onset of ocd symptoms last December.

This has lessened quite a bit actually since she has been on SSRI's (first

Prozac, now Luvox) but she does have a strong preference for starchy foods such

as pasta, cereal for breakfast, etc. She also eats veggies and fruits well so I

don't know which or what may be associated with the SSRI, if it even is. BTW,

she lost 2 pounds quickly while on Prozac (her appetite was quite low on this

drug), during the first month on Luvox she gain 4 pounds and by now has gained

five. She has a pronounced toddler-type tummy on her where formerly she was

lean, and I hope this weight gain stops here. Her doctor weighs her at each

visit (every 6 weeks.)

Hope this helps.

Kathy R. in Indiana

carbohydrates

Hi

I would like some input from the list about carbohydrates.I have been reading

on the other list about the increase of eating carbohydrates on meds and

wondered if anyone has noticed this with their children.My child has always

eaten a lot of starchy foods(she even ate uncooked dry noodles as a baby)and she

is very overweight.The discussion is about ocd and high carbohydrate

intake.Thanks

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Judi,

This is exactly what I am finding too.

You said it perfectly.... the body NEEDS more protein as we AGE, and esp.

when we are experiencing cancer.

You have answered a question that I put to the list about a month ago.

It's no longer a question in my mind.

We have to find ways to get protein back into our diets, hormone free of

course....

Ahhhhh, I have lots more to say, but no time.

Gotta run.

This is a gem, Judi. Thanks again.

Be well,

At 02:22 PM 04/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>My friend was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and told she would

not see another Christmas. That was four Christmas's ago. She is truly in

the hands of God and has not had any medical intervention other than her

mastectomy four years ago. She did some alternative treatment at that time

in Mexico (American Biologics, I believe). She has NEVER been cancer free.

She has done everything from every alternative book out there and I'm sure

this has kept her alive. However in the year I have known her, her liver

has been mostly cancer and she has to wear maternity clothes always because

of the fluid buildup. She walks with a limp and has a lot of pain. She was

recently diagnosed with diabetes and told she had to give herself shots...

>She hates that! So she told me one day, God has showed me how to cure my

cancer by giving me diabetes...! I didn't understand until one month later

when she told me she had gone on Dr. Atkin's diet and her tumor markers

dropped in ½ in four weeks!!!

>Now 2 weeks later she had another blood test and has had another drastic

reduction in her markers.

>She also has a friend who just got back from Dana Farber and was told to

eat more protein and less carbs. (even vegetables have carbs. especially

the sweet ones).

>She eats a lot of meat and cream; everything that you would think would

kill her. She is an " O " blood type.

>I just wanted to tell this story. I wonder if some people that die from a

macrobiotic diet are not blood types that require meat. I wonder if Hoxsey

didn't die from cancer because his own remedy contained red clover and he

was a " B " type....

>I am not looking to dispute what anyone is doing as I think part of the

cure is just believing in what you are doing

>I just wonder......

>Praise God!

>Peace people,

>Judi

>

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[Guest guest]

Attention Judi; Mel and I have been on Dr.Atkins diet over two years..Our

Doctor, she is all for it..as long as it is working for us. Our diet is what

is helping us to heal our own body..and following the advice of so many of

you good people that are out on this site reaching out to us..with great

encouragement.

I'm blood type A..Which I was raised to believe I could eat all the

vegetables I wanted..but not oodles of meat.. However my dad was type O..and

told to eat meat, and limit veggies..So in our household, my Mom, would fix

all kinds of food in order to satisfy us all. And we learned to know our

limitations on either one we ate.

I however refused milk, and preferred herbal or wild tea, only if I had

to drink it during flu-bug time, or after noon snack with crackers..My dad

and I however were the coffeeolics. He preferred his served at room

temperature..I had to have mine scalding hot. And Dad liked it black and

strong. He would take day old coffee in his lunch pail to work..We also

liked coffee soup.

Back to meat.. We never liked boiled meat, we preferred it crispy fried

over baked. But after I got married and begin to understand more of value of

foods, I begin to eat more veggies and less meat, dropping from my diet from

40 cups coffee to 1 or two now a day. And since I've been on the Parasite

medicine..of walnut,wormwood, and cloves, I don't have that craving appetite

that I had, where I would snack around the clock.

Now I eat only when I'm hungry..as my family doctor suggested to me

along time ago to do. That is not to eat meals at any given set time..to let

the body take it's course. Funny how after I and Mel begin the Parasite

medicine,that we begin to notice remarkable changes in out sitting down to a

meal. We sometimes find that we now cook to much, or serve to much on the

plate. Whereas before we'd crave for another helping, and even a second

salad. Were lucky now to be able to get one cupful of salad down, and one

small potato, or cooked ( 1 cup vegetables ), depending on what we have

cooked. Even now we don't crave meat like we had..this really has surprised

us. Mel has been a meat eater before all this. Funny also that we never

noticed this all at once,but over a matter of a few weeks it has come

gradual. I believe that the parasite medicine, balances things in our system

back to normal so not to shock us all at once.

Veggies, are great..And we also eat allot raw, or nibble on some during our

one main course meal, which is usually late evening. We go out to dine, and

when we do we take along our herbs..and we are very careful what we order.

Last night I chose Liver and onions. For I've not fixed any for our self in

awhile. Mel had spaghetti, and soy-meatballs.And a Cole-slaw, since cabbage

is good for us. I chose vegetable soup. Mel had ice-berry tea and I had

decafe/coffee ( second time of the day ) we actually had to bring a

doggy-bag home. Whereas before we would have ate ours and ordered more to

bring home and eat later before bedtime. So anybody that tells us that we

are imagining Parasite don't live in our body..we know what the medicine

anyway is doing for us. And lately another young man is telling us of the

remarkable change since he had brain cancer. His doctor is now asking him

questions.

Don't fear eating good-wholesome ( organic ) vegetables,: meat, grown on

organic, farms, when you can get it. Someone wrote me lately and couldn't

believe that our grocery stores don't have this meat all the time. I too

which they did..or would order in some from people like this lady that wrote

to me, whom runs a large production of organic cattle, on the crops they

grow organically...feed into cattle what you know is good and you wouldn't

need to worry about a piece of meat on the dinner table. Once in a while

meat won't harm us..if you don't over indulge. But that goes true with

everything we eat, to never over stuff our system.

Sincerely, One of Your Best Friends,Judy

carbohydrates

My friend was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and told she would not

see another Christmas. That was four Christmas's ago. She is truly in the

hands of God and has not had any medical intervention other than her

mastectomy four years ago. She did some alternative treatment at that time

in Mexico (American Biologics, I believe). She has NEVER been cancer free.

She has done everything from every alternative book out there and I'm sure

this has kept her alive. However in the year I have known her, her liver has

been mostly cancer and she has to wear maternity clothes always because of

the fluid buildup. She walks with a limp and has a lot of pain. She was

recently diagnosed with diabetes and told she had to give herself shots...

She hates that! So she told me one day, God has showed me how to cure my

cancer by giving me diabetes...! I didn't understand until one month later

when she told me she had gone on Dr. Atkin's diet and her tumor markers

dropped in ½ in four weeks!!!

Now 2 weeks later she had another blood test and has had another drastic

reduction in her markers.

She also has a friend who just got back from Dana Farber and was told to eat

more protein and less carbs. (even vegetables have carbs. especially the

sweet ones).

She eats a lot of meat and cream; everything that you would think would kill

her. She is an " O " blood type.

I just wanted to tell this story. I wonder if some people that die from a

macrobiotic diet are not blood types that require meat. I wonder if Hoxsey

didn't die from cancer because his own remedy contained red clover and he

was a " B " type....

I am not looking to dispute what anyone is doing as I think part of the cure

is just believing in what you are doing

I just wonder......

Praise God!

Peace people,

Judi

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[Guest guest]

Thats interesting Judi, Thank you

I'm AB+ blood type and I tried that low carb diet in my

20's, fanatically. I weighed 120lbs at the time and ate

around 2,500-3500 protein cals per day. I now weigh 130lbs

and eat much less on this macrobiotic diet. At the time my

only worry was that i might not be getting enough vitamins

and minerals, and i occasionally needed diaretics or are

they laxatives to move the bowels. But i felt marvelous, no

sugar mood swings at all. I slept less and definitely seemed

to be on some sort of ketosis high. I worked 16 hours a day

and Discoed after!

I have always looked back on those experimental days with

wonder. I also discovered my pancreas had stopped producin

insulin oneday when i ate a bag of cookies in a hurry and

started falling asleep standing up shopping, weird feeling.

I'm too scared to go back on it nowadays because animal

produce has more bacteria than my weakened immune system can

handle. I haven't eaten meat for ages now and would not like

to give up my fruit and vegetables, but it was a most

interesting experiment, i can see how it would work for

diabetics for sure.

My brother suffers mild schizophrenia and the low carb diet

keeps him calm, and easy going, so much for violent meat

eaters. The ancient Eskimos must have felt great, sharing

around their wives, not a problem :-)

Skye

Judi wrote:

My friend was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and

told she would not see another Christmas. That was four

Christmas's ago. She is truly in the hands of God and has

not had any medical intervention other than her mastectomy

four years ago. She did some alternative treatment at that

time in Mexico (American Biologics, I believe). She has

NEVER been cancer free. She has done everything from every

alternative book out there and I'm sure this has kept her

alive. However in the year I have known her, her liver has

been mostly cancer and she has to wear maternity clothes

always because of the fluid buildup. She walks with a limp

and has a lot of pain. She was recently diagnosed with

diabetes and told she had to give herself shots...

She hates that! So she told me one day, God has showed me

how to cure my cancer by giving me diabetes...! I didn't

understand until one month later when she told me she had

gone on Dr. Atkin's diet and her tumor markers dropped in ½

in four weeks!!!

Now 2 weeks later she had another blood test and has had

another drastic reduction in her markers.

She also has a friend who just got back from Dana Farber and

was told to eat more protein and less carbs. (even

vegetables have carbs. especially the sweet ones).

She eats a lot of meat and cream; everything that you would

think would kill her. She is an " O " blood type.

I just wanted to tell this story. I wonder if some people

that die from a macrobiotic diet are not blood types that

require meat. I wonder if Hoxsey didn't die from cancer

because his own remedy contained red clover and he was a " B "

type....

I am not looking to dispute what anyone is doing as I think

part of the cure is just believing in what you are doing

I just wonder......

Praise God!

Peace people,

Judi

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[Guest guest]

Hello All,

Things have been strange and I've been preoccupied for a while but I'm

back.

I was just going through email and saw this about proteins and

carbohydrates. Both are neccessary for the communication system of the body

on the cellular level so we have to be careful which ones we cut out. Just

wanted to through that in.

I have a new email and would like to communicate with you all from

there if someone could tell me how to change from here to there. THANKS

GOD BLESS & HAVE A HEALTHY DAY!!!

Eddie

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Re: carbohydrates

> Judi,

>

> This is exactly what I am finding too.

>

> You said it perfectly.... the body NEEDS more protein as we AGE, and esp.

> when we are experiencing cancer.

>

> You have answered a question that I put to the list about a month ago.

>

> It's no longer a question in my mind.

>

> We have to find ways to get protein back into our diets, hormone free of

> course....

>

> Ahhhhh, I have lots more to say, but no time.

>

> Gotta run.

>

> This is a gem, Judi. Thanks again.

>

> Be well,

>

>

> At 02:22 PM 04/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:

> >My friend was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer and told she would

> not see another Christmas. That was four Christmas's ago. She is truly in

> the hands of God and has not had any medical intervention other than her

> mastectomy four years ago. She did some alternative treatment at that time

> in Mexico (American Biologics, I believe). She has NEVER been cancer free.

> She has done everything from every alternative book out there and I'm sure

> this has kept her alive. However in the year I have known her, her liver

> has been mostly cancer and she has to wear maternity clothes always

because

> of the fluid buildup. She walks with a limp and has a lot of pain. She was

> recently diagnosed with diabetes and told she had to give herself shots...

> >She hates that! So she told me one day, God has showed me how to cure my

> cancer by giving me diabetes...! I didn't understand until one month later

> when she told me she had gone on Dr. Atkin's diet and her tumor markers

> dropped in ½ in four weeks!!!

> >Now 2 weeks later she had another blood test and has had another drastic

> reduction in her markers.

> >She also has a friend who just got back from Dana Farber and was told to

> eat more protein and less carbs. (even vegetables have carbs. especially

> the sweet ones).

> >She eats a lot of meat and cream; everything that you would think would

> kill her. She is an " O " blood type.

> >I just wanted to tell this story. I wonder if some people that die from a

> macrobiotic diet are not blood types that require meat. I wonder if Hoxsey

> didn't die from cancer because his own remedy contained red clover and he

> was a " B " type....

> >I am not looking to dispute what anyone is doing as I think part of the

> cure is just believing in what you are doing

> >I just wonder......

> >Praise God!

> >Peace people,

> >Judi

> >

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In a message dated 10/9/2002 7:32:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

info@... writes:

<< Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight. >>

I recommend you get Atkin's book. He shows you how to figure out how many

carbs you can eat. He also tells you ways to get passed the plateau.

[Guest guest]

That is like - how many cigarettes can I smoke and still not get cancer.

How much do you weigh? The recipe goes like this:

Bodyweight x 8 = total calorie intake - 65% will leave you with the

amount of carbs you can eat to loose weight. In other words 35% of your

calories should be carbs. (non starchy btw)

Love

Carbohydrates

Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

Depends also on your particular metabolism and activity level. There is no " One

size fits all " .

Carbohydrates

It depends on body weight and quality (status & pesticide content) of

carbs more than quantity. For example, you can eat an unlimited amount

of carbs from spinach or broccoli, but should avoid carbs from grains

for weight loss.

-

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 09:49 PM, az1home wrote:

> Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

> O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for the information you gave me. That will help me

out alot.

I weighed 212 lbs when I started. I now weigh 160 lbs and

still have a way to go. I try to workout 5 days a week. But I hit a

plateau and have been feeling frustrated on how to get past it, since

Iam eating the right foods.

Plus I need to know how to work this computer, Im still learning how

to use it. Thanks

[Guest guest]

,

are you talking all carbs or the higher density ones like sweet potatoes,

carrots, rice.....your leafy green ones etc. also included in this? Just

curious

Dekany wrote:That is like - how many cigarettes can I smoke and still

not get cancer.

How much do you weigh? The recipe goes like this:

Bodyweight x 8 = total calorie intake - 65% will leave you with the

amount of carbs you can eat to loose weight. In other words 35% of your

calories should be carbs. (non starchy btw)

Love

Carbohydrates

Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

So, I weigh 145 lb x 8 = 1160 I eat about 2000 calories a day and do not

gain weight....body comp is about 30 % fat, I think ....any thinner and I look

gaunt...I did weigh 10-15 lbs less a couple of years ago and it was not a

healthy weight...I had to endure all sort of comments about being too

thin...unreal...people do not believe that I weigh as much as I do.

35% of 1160 = 406 calories from carbs. If these are to be in non-starchy carbs,

then it is one heck of a lot of veggies! 1 cup of broccoli is 40 calories....

Please help me here....I have to eat starchy veggies and some grains or I am

starving. Yes, I do eat plenty of quality fats/oils and protein...probably 75

gm of protein a day. Ann

Carbohydrates

Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

" " " " " " " " " " " I have to eat starchy veggies and some grains or I am

starving " " " " " " " "

You are starving because you are underfeeding yourself!!!!!!!!!!

You are eating around 15% protein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Consume 3 x as much.

(45% protein)

35% carbs includes fruits too.

Also eat more fat too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Carbohydrates

So, I weigh 145 lb x 8 = 1160 I eat about 2000 calories a day and

do not gain weight....body comp is about 30 % fat, I think ....any

thinner and I look gaunt...I did weigh 10-15 lbs less a couple of years

ago and it was not a healthy weight...I had to endure all sort of

comments about being too thin...unreal...people do not believe that I

weigh as much as I do.

35% of 1160 = 406 calories from carbs. If these are to be in non-starchy

carbs, then it is one heck of a lot of veggies! 1 cup of broccoli is 40

calories....

Please help me here....I have to eat starchy veggies and some grains or

I am starving. Yes, I do eat plenty of quality fats/oils and

protein...probably 75 gm of protein a day. Ann

Carbohydrates

Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

yes

Carbohydrates

Can any one tell me how many carbohydrates we need daily for our type

O's. And how many we can take in and still lose the weight.

[Guest guest]

Give me details?????????????????????? So I may assist you.

Re:Carbohydrates

Thanks everyone for the information you gave me. That will help me

out alot.

I weighed 212 lbs when I started. I now weigh 160 lbs and

still have a way to go. I try to workout 5 days a week. But I hit a

plateau and have been feeling frustrated on how to get past it, since

Iam eating the right foods.

Plus I need to know how to work this computer, Im still learning how

to use it. Thanks

[Guest guest]

I also like pasta, but I have switch to rice pasta w/o gluten, wheat.

Iam trying a variety of other foods. But sometimes its difficult

when eating out to find the best foods for the plan that we should be

on. I dont think Im starving myself even though my mind might think

so, I have been eating more fruits expecially organic fruits. I wish

they had a place near where I lived so I can buy organic meat, or

free range meats. I do feel better about changing my eating habits

and I know I can never go back because I somewhat tried and got very

ill. I feel great.

[Guest guest]

Eating that little protein isn't healthy. You can always order organic

meat on line. Go to http://www.er4yt.org <http://www.er4yt.org/> for

resources.

Love

When out, order a salad and animal protein with olive oil on the side.

Much harder for As however.

RE:carbohydrates

I also like pasta, but I have switch to rice pasta w/o gluten, wheat.

Iam trying a variety of other foods. But sometimes its difficult

when eating out to find the best foods for the plan that we should be

on. I dont think Im starving myself even though my mind might think

so, I have been eating more fruits expecially organic fruits. I wish

they had a place near where I lived so I can buy organic meat, or

free range meats. I do feel better about changing my eating habits

and I know I can never go back because I somewhat tried and got very

ill. I feel great.

[Guest guest]

Glad that you wrote such a long e-mail. I will take your advice and increase my

proteins and fats and reduce the carbs again. I have the book you mentioned and

actually have had long periods on low carb diet...just get off track every so

often.

My apologies to those that are bothered with all the footers...just have been

forgetting to clean up the footers the last while. Sorry.

Carbohydrates

Look Axel, I never attach all the footers. I hope the Biltong Gods are

smiling on me for my good list behaviour. Thank you for reminding everyone!

I see there is a thread about carbohydrates, with many ER adherents seeking to

substitute " good " carbs for " bad " .

[Guest guest]

, congratulations on your weight loss. Is that why you started the BTD? I

started the BTD because of a life threatening condition... I was so toxic I was

landing in emerg with my throat swelling up... histamine levels were so high I

was reacting to all kinds of things. Anyway, the bonus to following this

lifestyle is that I've gone from a size 16 to a size 12. I asked my naturopath

if I would stop losing at some point and his answer was that your body will

naturally regulate itself. You don't have to try to control it. Once you get

to your body's ideal weight you'll stay there on this diet (hate that word!).

So maybe you're body functions best at 160? We all used to think we needed to

be 125 lbs to be at the right weight, years ago, but that's not so. I don't

think I'm going to look at any of the formula's put out by the " Establishment "

to decide what weight's best for me. I'm going to let my body decide as long as

I'm healthy.

Just MHO.

:-)

[Guest guest]

Absolutely! My experience....and remember BMI (Body Mass Index) is not very

meaningful...it does not work for people with higher than normal muscle mass.

Body comp tests are more meaningful. Ann

----- Original Message -----

From: & Bruce Doyle

...that your body will naturally regulate itself. You don't have to try to

control it. Once you get to your body's ideal weight you'll stay there on this

diet

[Guest guest]

my brother-in-law turned me and my husband on to the book.

Besides being over weight my health was not that great. The doctors

have told me I have some genetic problem they cant cure. Im the hole

in the sidewalk, anyway my insides are aging faster than my age so

Iam trying anything to slow it down. I feel great and doing better

everyday, with the food and the exercising. I do have some

drawbacks, I cheat alittle but mostly stay on the course. I went

from 187 cholestoral 126. Talk to you soon

> , congratulations on your weight loss. Is that why you

started the BTD? I started the BTD because of a life threatening

condition... I was so toxic I was landing in emerg with my throat

swelling up... histamine levels were so high I was reacting to all

kinds of things. Anyway, the bonus to following this lifestyle is

that I've gone from a size 16 to a size 12. I asked my naturopath if

I would stop losing at some point and his answer was that your body

will naturally regulate itself. You don't have to try to control

it. Once you get to your body's ideal weight you'll stay there on

this diet (hate that word!). So maybe you're body functions best at

160? We all used to think we needed to be 125 lbs to be at the right

weight, years ago, but that's not so. I don't think I'm going to

look at any of the formula's put out by the " Establishment " to decide

what weight's best for me. I'm going to let my body decide as long

as I'm healthy.

>

> Just MHO.

>

> :-)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, you've done an amazing job. I have been " cheating " these past two weeks

as well and feeling not as great as before. Two nights ago I had a bad dream...

that my hives were back. So I am throwing out any avoids left in my house after

Thanksgiving (this last weekend here in Ontario) and getting back on track. I

also want to get more active, as I haven't really done that yet. I'm glad

you're doing so well. It's life changing, isn't it?

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Re:Carbohydrates

my brother-in-law turned me and my husband on to the book.

Besides being over weight my health was not that great. The doctors

have told me I have some genetic problem they cant cure. Im the hole

in the sidewalk, anyway my insides are aging faster than my age so

Iam trying anything to slow it down. I feel great and doing better

everyday, with the food and the exercising. I do have some

drawbacks, I cheat alittle but mostly stay on the course. I went

from 187 cholestoral 126. Talk to you soon

[Guest guest]

>These are carbs? " salad, broccoli, onions, garlic, ginger, peppers,

>nuts, " ?????????????

>

>I thought carbs were pasta, bagels, doughnuts, chips, crackers and cooked

>root vegetables.

This is a bit confused.

Carbs, short for carbohydrates, are one of three categories of

macronutrients: protein, carbohydrates, and fats. Micronutrients

include vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and various phytochemicals.

Carbohydrates are found mainly in vegetables, fruits, and grains, but

there is also some carbohydrate in nuts and seeds and milk, etc.

Proteins are found in meats and dairy products and other animal-based

foods (such as eggs) and fats are found in both plant and animal

foods. Most nutritionists say that all the macronutrients are

necessary to life and health, although some say carbohydrates are

less necessary. However, the plant foods, which contain

carbohydrates, are necessary for the vitamins, minerals, fiber,

enzymes, phytochemicals and other micronutries (many as yet

unidentified by science) are needed for optimum health. What is

undeniable is that protein (composed of various amino acids) and

fats/oils (at least certain essential fatty acids) are absolutely

essential to life. On top of that, it's not just what you eat, but

what your body digests and absorbs that determines your state of

health. And then there are lots of other factors that enter in, but

I'm trying to stick to the basics here.

So, " carbohydrates " does not equal past, bagels, doughuts, chips,

crackers and cooked root vegetables, but those foods are all sources

rich in carbohydrates.

Salad (a pretty vague term; it could mean green Jello with pineapple

and cottage cheese, or a plate of greens), broccoli, onions, garlic,

ginger, peppers and nuts also contain carbohydrates but they are

lower in starch than the other foods mentioned. " Starch " is another

term for carbohydrate, usually used to refer to carbohydrate-dense

foods or extracted, concentrated carbohydrates (such as cornstarch,

potato starch, etc.).

cheers,

Jeanmarie

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Also, I meant 2 servings of starches, not just carbohydrates. Glad

you understood.

Buntzen, MS, RD

Bariatric Dietitian

Bariatric Care Center

>>> <danaeswilley@...> 3/12/2008 1:39 PM >>>

I recommend the same - 2 to 3 servings of grains, with a majority of carbs

coming from dairy, fruits, and vegetables. I don't give them a specific

timeline of when to reach the goal of 100-130g of carb. Everyone's tolerance

and advancement ability is different, I've found.

Dana

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Carbohydrates

Hi everyone. I've only been working as a Bariatric Dietitian for a few months

and I'm puzzled about the adequacy of the diet for the patient who is one or

more years post op.Protein intake is usually very good, carbohydrate intake

seems to be between 25-60 grams. Doesn't the ADA recommend 120 grams of carbs.

for proper function of the brain/nervous system? I would really appreciate your

input.

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[Guest guest]

Hello Bee. I am in the program for 2 weeks. The last 5 days I have eaten

no carbohydrates, only 1 lemon per day in electrolite drink. I have read that

Dr. Jan. Kwasniewski says: " a minimum daily intake of carbohydrate (50 g) is

recommended in humans to prevent ketosis and loss of muscle protein " . Do you

agree with this? Do you think I should eat a little amount of vegetables (20-50

gr) per day?

Thank you