Re: All Meat & Fat Program or not?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> My ratios by calorie count are as follow :

>

> fat : 82%

> protein : 17%

> carbs : 1%

>

> Considering these ratios am I following the All Meat & Fat Program?

> If yes should I have at least 2 servings of fish and 1 serving of liver per

week?

+++Hi Adri,

Yes you are doing all Meat & Fat, so you should follow my All Meat & Fat

Program:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat5.php

Of course everyone should have at least 1 serving of fish and 1 serving of red

meat liver per week.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee,

At what point should you begin to follow the all meat diet? My carb percent can

be as low as 1% some days, but most days it is higher. I usually only consume

veggies at one meal a day, sometimes two.

Also, how detrimental to my healing is the lack of liver? I buy it

occasionally, but I'm the only one who will eat it, and I'm not a huge fan

either.

As always, thank you for your dedication Bee!

Dawn

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > My ratios by calorie count are as follow :

> >

> > fat : 82%

> > protein : 17%

> > carbs : 1%

> >

> > Considering these ratios am I following the All Meat & Fat Program?

> > If yes should I have at least 2 servings of fish and 1 serving of liver per

week?

>

> +++Hi Adri,

>

> Yes you are doing all Meat & Fat, so you should follow my All Meat & Fat

Program:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat5.php

>

> Of course everyone should have at least 1 serving of fish and 1 serving of red

meat liver per week.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Bee,

> At what point should you begin to follow the all meat diet? My carb percent

can be as low as 1% some days, but most days it is higher. I usually only

consume veggies at one meal a day, sometimes two.

>

> Also, how detrimental to my healing is the lack of liver? I buy it

occasionally, but I'm the only one who will eat it, and I'm not a huge fan

either.

>

> As always, thank you for your dedication Bee!

+++Hi Dawn,

It isn't necessary to follow the All Meat & Fat Program even though some people

do.

There's no detriment to your healing if you don't eat liver.

You are welcome for my dedication Dawn!

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for your answer Bee.

Do I have to eat less fat and more protein to respect the 80/20 ratio knowing

that I'm within the recommended fat range and 19 grams above the recommended

protein intake for my height (97 instead of 78)?

I dislike both fish and liver, would it affect my progress if I don't consume

these foods?

All the best, Adri.

>

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > My ratios by calorie count are as follow :

> >

> > fat : 82%

> > protein : 17%

> > carbs : 1%

> >

> > Considering these ratios am I following the All Meat & Fat Program?

> > If yes should I have at least 2 servings of fish and 1 serving of liver per

week?

>

> +++Hi Adri,

>

> Yes you are doing all Meat & Fat, so you should follow my All Meat & Fat

Program:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat5.php

>

> Of course everyone should have at least 1 serving of fish and 1 serving of red

meat liver per week.

>

> All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you very much for your answer Bee.

>

> Do I have to eat less fat and more protein to respect the 80/20 ratio knowing

that I'm within the recommended fat range and 19 grams above the recommended

protein intake for my height (97 instead of 78)?

>

> I dislike both fish and liver, would it affect my progress if I don't consume

these foods?

+++Hi Adri,

You follow my All Meat and Fat Program, using calorie counts instead of gram

ratios.

No, not consuming fish and liver won't affect your progress.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee, So do I need to lower my fat intake to 80% fat / 20% protein?

That's great news it will not affect my progresses if I'm not consuming these

foods. I will try at least to eat some liver if I found some certified organic.

All the best, Adri.

>

> >

> > Thank you very much for your answer Bee.

> >

> > Do I have to eat less fat and more protein to respect the 80/20 ratio

knowing that I'm within the recommended fat range and 19 grams above the

recommended protein intake for my height (97 instead of 78)?

> >

> > I dislike both fish and liver, would it affect my progress if I don't

consume these foods?

>

> +++Hi Adri,

>

> You follow my All Meat and Fat Program, using calorie counts instead of gram

ratios.

>

> No, not consuming fish and liver won't affect your progress.

>

> Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee, So do I need to lower my fat intake to 80% fat / 20% protein?

>

> That's great news it will not affect my progresses if I'm not consuming these

foods. I will try at least to eat some liver if I found some certified organic.

+++Hi Adri. You may not need to change your fat and protein intake. Please

read the instructions in my All Meat and Fat Program, which explains it all.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee,

I re-read the instructions several times and from what I understood the 20%

meat/eggs and 80% fats ratio is important to maintain blood sugar levels.

Am I right to assume that it's specially important for those who switch to this

program while on their lower fat ratios so they have enough proteins that can

turn into glucose? In this case could those who switch to this program with

higher fats ratio maintain their fats ratio a little higher, like 81-82% fats /

17-18% proteins?

Also could you please tell me what would be the maximum carb amount one can

consume on the All Meat & Fat Program?

Sorry for all these questions but I have faith in your program so I'm willing to

understand and follow it the best I can.

All the best, Adri.

> >

> > Thanks Bee, So do I need to lower my fat intake to 80% fat / 20% protein?

> >

> > That's great news it will not affect my progresses if I'm not consuming

these foods. I will try at least to eat some liver if I found some certified

organic.

>

> +++Hi Adri. You may not need to change your fat and protein intake. Please

read the instructions in my All Meat and Fat Program, which explains it all.

>

> Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I re-read the instructions several times and from what I understood the 20%

meat/eggs and 80% fats ratio is important to maintain blood sugar levels.

+++Hi Adri. The 20% to 80% ratio is because that amount of protein needs 80%

fat, which is the ratio Eskimos consumed because they only consumed meats and

fats, and no carbs.

There's no problem maintaining blood sugar levels with all meats and fats, or

with meats, fats and carbs in the ratios recommended. That is because 58% of

protein and 10% of fat can be changed, as needed, to maintain blood sugar levels

on either diet, and it also lowers your blood's need for sugar.

>

> Am I right to assume that it's specially important for those who switch to

this program while on their lower fat ratios so they have enough proteins that

can turn into glucose?

+++See my comments above. Also on all meats and fats the person will most

likely have to increase their fat ratio quickly to higher than the lower range

in order to get 80% fat to the 20% protein.

In this case could those who switch to this program with higher fats ratio

maintain their fats ratio a little higher, like 81-82% fats / 17-18% proteins?

+++No.

>

> Also could you please tell me what would be the maximum carb amount one can

consume on the All Meat & Fat Program?

+++I do not believe there is any great advantage comsuming all meats and fats,

however some people go on it because they say they do not do well on any carbs

(plant foods). When they go on it they do not have any carbs, except for some

in eggs or small amounts of spices.

" Why make protein " fulfill blood sugar requirements since it is more expensive

than carbs?

That is why it is impractical to eliminate all carbs and it isn't necessary

either.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I re-read the instructions several times and from what I understood the 20%

meat/eggs and 80% fats ratio is important to maintain blood sugar levels.

>

> Am I right to assume that it's specially important for those who switch to

this program while on their lower fat ratios so they have enough proteins that

can turn into glucose? In this case could those who switch to this program with

higher fats ratio maintain their fats ratio a little higher, like 81-82% fats /

17-18% proteins?

>

> Also could you please tell me what would be the maximum carb amount one can

consume on the All Meat & Fat Program?

>

+++Dear Adri,

I thought of something else that might help you understand better. My protein,

fat and carb ratios are exactly the same as Dr. Jan Kwasniewski has on his

Optimal Diet. He has been curing people of heart disease, cancer, asthma,

diabetes, etc. for over 30 years in Poland. His books are written in Polish,

and one was translated into English, however it is still very technical and

difficult to read and understand.

He writes: The main principle of this dietary model is a marked increase in the

consumption of fat, and the reduction in the consumption of carbohydrate, as the

energy source for the body. There are, however, strict rules on the proportion

between the three main food components, protein, fat and carbohydrates, which

need to be followed (with few exceptions) in order to achieve claimed benefits

of the Optimal Diet.

Consumption of excess amino acids [protein] thus is wasteful, since this surplus

is catabolised [see the definition below] to form energy, a function that

carbohydrates and lipids [fats] can serve at a lower cost.

Catabolic processes (canabolism), are hormones that break down substances into

simpler ones, which include thyroid hormones that function as general

stimulators of many cellular reactions, hormones produced by the adrenal glands

such as cortisol, and others.

Anabolic processes (anabolism), are hormones that build molecules, tissues and

even organs in the body, which includes sex hormones, insulin, and growth

hormones produced in the pituitary gland in the head which are responsible for

tissues repair, cell regeneration, and building new tissues as needed.

For most situations, a diet in which 12% of the energy is supplied as protein is

adequate. The efficiency with which dietary protein is used determines the total

quantity of protein required. This quantity is affected by three major factors:

protein quality, energy intake, and physical activity.

The quality of protein is measured by comparing the proportions of essential

amino acids in a food with the proportions required for good nutrition. The

closer the two numbers are, the higher the protein quality. Egg and milk

proteins are high - quality proteins that are efficiently used by the body and

are used as reference standards against which other proteins can be compared.

Meat protein is of high protein quality, whereas several proteins from plants

used as major food sources are relatively deficient.

The real value of egg yolk fats, for our body, according to a reliable

scientific investigation, is four times higher than the value of the fat from

butter or cream, and dramatically higher than the biological (and factual) value

of the remaining fats.

NOTE>>>>Under no circumstances should we mix different kinds of fuel or the two

different sources of energy: fats and carbohydrates, more precisely we should

maintain a correct proportion between the two.

By eating animal fats we not only receive concentrated energy, but we also

receive all the fat-accompanying elements needed to obtain this energy, in the

necessary quantity and proportion.

The human body metabolises animal fats easily and such metabolism is

energetically economical. The digestive system is designed to slowly deliver the

building blocks and energy containing matter.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> NOTE>>>>Under no circumstances should we mix different kinds of fuel or the

two different sources of energy: fats and carbohydrates, more precisely we

should maintain a correct proportion between the two.

>

+++ The first line leads me to believe we should never eat fat with

carbohydrates. But the next line ( " we should maintain a correct proportion

between the two [fats & carbs] " ) makes it sound like it's ok to have fat and

carbs in the same meal but under the proper ratio.

Which is correct?

Thanks!

began 03/09/10

[Guest guest]

> >

> > NOTE>>>>Under no circumstances should we mix different kinds of fuel or the

two different sources of energy: fats and carbohydrates, more precisely we

should maintain a correct proportion between the two.

> >

>

> +++ The first line leads me to believe we should never eat fat with

carbohydrates. But the next line ( " we should maintain a correct proportion

between the two [fats & carbs] " ) makes it sound like it's ok to have fat and

carbs in the same meal but under the proper ratio.

>

+++Hi ,

The key words above are " fuel " and " two different sources of energy " . It does

not infer you should never eat fat with carbs.

It is the total intake of foods for the day and not per meal, however meals

should always include protein and fat.

You need to maintain daily intake so fats and carbs are maintained in the

correct proportions to ensure your body is using fat for energy, instead of

carbs, and it takes time to switch your body over.

If you intake high carbs one day, even if your fats are high, it confuses your

body, which creates symptoms and reactions, since your body cannot suddenly

switch back from fats to carbs.

That's what Dr. Jan K means. There are 2 pathways used by the body. One is

used when the energy source is carbs, and the other is used when the energy

source is fats. I haven't gotten into those details since it is extremely

complicated and technical.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Thank you very much for your response, but now I'm even more confused

It seems like the All Meat & Fat Program and the Optimal Diet are contradicting

themselves.

From the Optimal Diet :

" Consumption of excess amino acids [protein] thus is wasteful, since this

surplus is catabolized to form energy, a function that carbohydrates and lipids

[fats] can serve at a lower cost. "

But on the All Meat & Fat Program in order to maintain the 80% fats / 20%

proteins ratio one has to exceed the 1 gram of protein per kilogram of " due body

weight " , even when consuming very lean meat. And paradoxically it's recommended

to choose cuts of meat that contain the most fat in them.

Also what about Butterfat consumption among Masai warriors that can reach 1 and

1/2 pounds per day? Then they would have to eat a very high amount of protein in

order to maintain the 80% fats / 20% proteins ratio. Maybe the blood they drink

is very high in protein but from what I read they mostly consume it on special

occasions.

All the best, Adri.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Thank you very much for your response, but now I'm even more confused

>

> It seems like the All Meat & Fat Program and the Optimal Diet are

contradicting themselves.

>

> From the Optimal Diet :

>

> " Consumption of excess amino acids [protein] thus is wasteful, since this

surplus is catabolized to form energy, a function that carbohydrates and lipids

[fats] can serve at a lower cost. "

>

> But on the All Meat & Fat Program in order to maintain the 80% fats / 20%

proteins ratio one has to exceed the 1 gram of protein per kilogram of " due body

weight " , even when consuming very lean meat. And paradoxically it's recommended

to choose cuts of meat that contain the most fat in them.

>

> Also what about Butterfat consumption among Masai warriors that can reach 1

and 1/2 pounds per day? Then they would have to eat a very high amount of

protein in order to maintain the 80% fats / 20% proteins ratio. Maybe the blood

they drink is very high in protein but from what I read they mostly consume it

on special occasions.

>

+++Hi Adri,

The two diets do not contradict each other.

" Consumption of excess amino acids [protein] thus is wasteful, since this

surplus is catabolized to form energy, a function that carbohydrates and lipids

[fats] can serve at a lower cost. "

+++Notice the key word is " wasteful " . Dr. K. doesn't say it is bad for you. He

says you can get your energy from fats at a lower cost.

Bee