Cod Liver Oil

[Guest guest]

Tonja wrote:

>

> I haven't done as much research on cod liver oil as I have flax seed oil.

> but they have some of the same qualities.

> They are very good for the digestive system, also very good to add weight,

> or take weight off~high in Omega (6 and 3??) fats..which boosts I.Q about 10

> pts. Builds the immune system etc.

Flax seed oil is much better than cod liver oil. As I remember, cod

liver oil only has one of the Omegas (3?). Flax has 3, 6, and 9. It's

great for dry skin and ezcema (sp?). I've also read it's good for the

nervous system. We use it every day since a physicians assistant

recommended it to us several years ago. I could give a couple of

testimonies about its benefit to both me and my youngest son.

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>

> thanks for the info. i just read a page today on flax seed oil. I

didn't know it had so many benefits. I'm going to start using it.

Hi all!

Here's a link to an article on flaxseed oil that contradicts some of

what is being said elsewhere;

http://www.coconut-info.com/facts_on_flax.htm

www.mercola.com also has some cautionary words to say abt flaxseed

oil.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

I believe cod liver oil is advised as it is the best way to get Vit A during a

disease. I don't know why else one would want to add this to an infant's

dite,tho, if bfing.

Laurie>Oh

[Guest guest]

Cod Liver Oil is a great Essential Fatty Acid or EFA's....they do lots of

great things for the body. I would give them to my kids if I could get them

to take them.

Flax only has one component (Omega 3) and Cod Liver Oil has all three....3,6

9.

[Guest guest]

does this sax flower or cod liver oil come in pill form?

Thanks. Porsche

[Guest guest]

>The brand of clo that you were giving your child, did you verify it was

relatively safe (as mercury free as possible)? If the clo was flavored, could

your

child be allergic to the flavoring? Perhaps you can try coconut oil.<

It was Kirkman's bottled lemon flavored Cod Liver Oil. I assumed it was safe.

[Guest guest]

>The brand of clo that you were giving your child, did you verify it was

relatively safe (as mercury free as possible)? If the clo was flavored, could

your

child be allergic to the flavoring? Perhaps you can try coconut oil.<

It was Kirkman's bottled lemon flavored Cod Liver Oil. I assumed it was safe.

[Guest guest]

I have used the Quantum brand from Wilderness Family

Naturals. It is the high vitamin type. But I prefer

the Blue Ice brand (they have it at MVV) which is also

high vitamin-type, but is a little lighter and seems

to be less of a problem with lingering aftertaste, for

me at least. The peppermint-flavored is quite good.

My 1-year old granddaughter takes it straight with no

problem.

--- Kristi Landis <kdlandis@...> wrote:

> I have used Nordic Naturals and like the taste, but

> I still can't take

> any straight. I mix mine with about 1/4 cup

> pinnaple juice and down

> it. Even my kids, ages 11 down to my 2 year old

> will all drink it

> that way. They even ask for more!

>

> Kristi

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have no idea, that is what needs to be determened. I hope to know more

tomorrow.

Kimi

[Guest guest]

Supplements are not regulated- exactly why I only buy from a few

brands that I feel I can trust their manufacturing procedures.

Barb

>

> Hi all,

>

> There have been several discussions of Vitamin D and cod liver oil

on

> this list. I stumbled on a cod liver oil article, below, that

might

> interest you. I have a big bottle of Carlson's in my refrigerator,

so

> it interests me!

>

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

>

>

> http://onibasu.com/blog/2005/04/cod-liver-oil-murky-contents.html

>

> Saturday, April 16, 2005

> Cod Liver Oil: Murky Contents

>

> Triggered by an allegation of deceptive labeling, cod liver oil

(CLO)

> has been the subject of several long running threads on a few

mailing

> lists recently. The root cause seems to be the lack of transparency

in

> labelling and production practises.

>

> A post from October 2004 was the first indication that there was

more

> than pollutants like mercury to worry about in cod liver oils.

Petteri

> from Finland reported that the product information sheet filed with

a

> government agency found soy product, synthetic vitamins and other

> additives in Carlson's cod liver oil.

> Natural tocopherols (soy oil concentrate 70%), synthetic

> dl-alphatocopherol-acetate, retinylpalmitate-concentrate (incl.

> synthetic retinylpalmitate and peanut oil), cholecalciferol

concentrate

> (incl. synthetic cholecalciferol and vegetable oil).

> The lemon flavor version includes also: saccharinsolution (incl.

> ethanol), lemon flavor.

> This vitamin E from soy is used to lengthen the shelf life of cod

liver

> oil.

>

> Petteri later asked Dr. Mercola (who endorses Carlson's cod liver

oil)

> about these issues but received nothing concrete:

> About a half year ago I contacted Mercola on the subject of

Carlson's

> soy based vitamin E and the synthetic vitamin A and D used in the

> product. They asked for more information and after I send them some

> documents they went completely mute.

> Recently, Pratick Mukherjee received a response from Carlson's many

> weeks after initially contacting Dr. Mercola. Johanek of J

R

> Carlson Laboratories finally confirmed that Carlson's CLO contained

> soy-derived vitamin E. In a follow up, Johanek stated that a

mixture of

> GMO and non-GMO soy was used, and no synthetic vitamin A or D was

> added. Unfortunately this contradicts Petteri's information sheet.

>

> If that wasn't enough, the Weston A. Price Foundation stopped

endorsing

> Carlson's Cod Liver Oil on their website in February 2005,

stating " the

> manufacturer is removing vitamin A out of concerns of toxicity. "

>

> Removing nutrients is one thing, what about artificially increasing

the

> levels of Vitamin A and D? There is concern among some that some

CLO

> marketers may be engaging in this practise. For example, Petteri

> reports that a major CLO wholesale supplier, Lysi, cannot supply

their

> product without fluctuations in vitamin content:

> " We can offer unbleached and undeodorized cod liver oil with

natural

> vitamins A and D. The vitamin content will however fluctuate a lot.

The

> vitamin A can be approximately 600 - 1.500 i.u./g and the D vitamin

100

> - 250 i.u./g. "

> Although producers may employ techniques to make vitamin levels

more

> consistent, Petteri found that CLO marketers do not have to even

> bother, at least in his jurisdiction. In a conversation with a

senior

> government scientist:

> So I asked: If I add the required amount of synthetic vit. A and

vit. D

> to a fish oil base, can I sell this procuct as cod liver oil? Would

the

> Agency of Medicine approve it?

>

> She said yes.

>

> And would I have to mention the synthetic vitamins on the label?

>

> No.

> Another possibility is that the levels fluctuate in the actual

product

> despite the implication of consistency made by the label, as Suze

> Fisher reported:

> I have at least one assay of a batch from NF [Natural Factors]

which I

> requested and it shows the peroxide value, as well as vits A and D

> potency, which can vary quite a bit from what the label states (on

any

> brand).

> Consequently, Petteri feels cod liver oils such as Nordic Naturals

and

> Garden of Life's Olde World Icelandic, that state an approximate

range,

> as more " honest " and convincing.

>

> Fundamentally, it seems the companies that sell cod liver oil to

> consumers, the marketers, could do a better job of education and

> creating more transparency to their business. With a confusing

plethora

> of terms, it's hard for consumers to know what is often-repeated

myth

> and what's important. It is also ironic that a government-regulated

> informational filing in Northern Europe provided the first

discussed

> hint of additives in one of the most reputable brands on the market.

>

> Sometimes even the marketers aren't sure of the answers. Between

fish

> and bottle is a mysterious process.

> posted by onibasu at 12:59 AM

>

> Direct link to this entry:

> http://onibasu.com/blog/2005/04/cod-liver-oil-murky-contents.html

>

[Guest guest]

On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:40 AM, Barb Peck wrote:

> Supplements are not regulated- exactly why I only buy from a few

> brands that I feel I can trust their manufacturing procedures.

And there are dealers who are a lot pickier than others about the

quality they carry. I've actually had pretty good luck with the

larger chains like Vitamin Shoppe, Whole Foods, and GNC. Their buyers

have medical advisory boards who guide them; and they compete to

carry the better brands. Also, their house brands seem to be of

consistently reasonable quality.

Some small local stores are run by people who are also very savvy

about who's putting out the good stuff. There's one in my

neighborhood run by a woman who's sharp as a tack, and chooses her

lines very knowledgeably.

On the other hand, I've had very uneven experiences with Costco,

particularly their house brand. My low-grade osteoarthritis (thanks,

Mom, for that gene) still responds very well to 1000mg of glucosamine

morning and evening. But Costco's bargain-brand gluco doesn't work

worth a damn. I'd be better off taking baby asprin, really.

Barb, what brands do you feel you can trust? This is an important

topic to share information on.

Some I like:

Ortho-Molecular (mostly sold only through doctors, though you can

occasionally find it at some of the better online places)

Allergy Research Group is also mostly sold by doctors. Their NAC is

probably the highest quality on the market.

Get Well International has some very high-quality supplements that

are based on Chinese herbal formulas. Their Female Well, in

particular, has been a terrific help with early menopause symptoms.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Jeanne,

We highly recommend The Wilderness Family Natural Cod Liver Oil.

Here's what it says on their web site:

" Our Cod Liver Oil is produced from Cod that is caught in the cold,

northern waters off of Norway. This oil has never been hydrolyzed,

fractionated, molecularly distilled or heated. It is simply a natural

cod liver oil, purified by filtering through diatomaceous earth. This

oil is independently tested to ensure the absence of detectable levels

of mercury and other heavy metals, PAH's, PCB's and dioxins. "

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/cod-liver-oil.htm

Janet Brunner

Midvalleyvu Farms

> What is a good brand? And where does one find it?

> Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Judy, I'm not Will, but we use the WFN Cod Liver Oil. Blue Ice is good stuff,

but when you consider the processing most CLO's go through, much of the vitamins

are lost and must be added back.

Though WFN may have less of the A & D than Blue Ice - it is a 100% natural form

and likely more usable by the body as apposed to synthetic additions. The only

processing the WFN brand uses is purifying by filtering through diatomaceous

earth. The WFN CLO is also bottled in glass, where the last shipment of Blue

Ice we received was bottled in plastic! (We carry both brands in our store).

Our honest opinion is that if you can get a product in it's purest form, you

gain so much more from it. But then again, it's all a matter of personal

choice.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

Will, I'm wondering which brand you use for your cod liver oil? ---Judy

[Guest guest]

We take the CARLSON Lemon flavored CLO in our house. One-two tablespoons a day.

We

take this brand for one main reason and that is because it is the ONLY brand

Rebekah can

stand the flavor of, and this one is so good it's almost delicious to her. You

would not

believe how heathy we've become and we attribute a great deal of that to regular

CLO

intake. Rebekah really notices it in her skin, eyes and hair. You would be wise

to stay with

such good brands as BLUE ICE or WILDERNESS as well.

The misconceptions around Vitamin D levels abound and most people, even here in

the

TF world are out of touch with the reality. For the fastest connection to the

latest

information I recommend getting the CD from the WAPF conference of DR JOHN

CANNELL's lecture. It was a staggering blast of good information.

For that matter, and I will be harping on this over and over, if you are NOT a

member of

WAPF it is really time to get on board. The annual membership is only $40 a year

and the

benefits could save you many a heartache (or heart attack!). It's CRAZY not to

join. Family

membership could be an EXCELLENT HOLIDAY GIFT and you could also extend a

membership to others in your circle of friends and family.

BACK TO VITAMIN D 101

1) It's essentially impossible to get enough Vitamin D in one's diet

2) Almost 100% of the stories about overdose are related to the artificial,

so-called

vegetarian Vitamin D which is actually D2 not the safe and healing D3 found in

seafood,

dairy, meat and eggs.

3) The best source of Vitamin D is actually SUNLIGHT something no one gets

enough of at

our latitude. (It's also been demonized like saturated fat!). The body has

natural protective

mechanisms making it possible to overdose on skin-sourced Vitamin D

4) The best way to get skin Vitamin D living here now (wintertime) is to spend 5

minutes a

week naked in a suntan booth. SAD lamps made today do NOT emit enough uv for any

Vitamin D synthesis! Sunbeds are not needed if you are sunbathing in the

summer.

5) Sunbathing naked at noon here in the summer will give you over 2000 iu in

only 15

minutes, a wonderful dose that will flow over into all parts of the body. That's

the Vitamin

D equivalent of drinking 200 glasses of good whole milk!!!

6) Almost every single person in Minnesota is DEFICIENT right now in Vitamin D

7) Low levels of Vitamin D are directly related to obesity/stroke/chronic

pain/cancer/MS/

rhumatoid arthritis/depression/Parkinson's disease/ auto-immune

diseases/peridontal

disease/hypertension/cardiovascular disease/osteoporosis/diabetes-syndrome X/

osteoarthritis and most chronic disease.

8) Levels of Vitamin D in the blood are inversely proportional to obesity

9) Influenza virus (bird flu included) is a " hide from the sun " winter virus

10) Ideal adult dose is 4000 iu daily plus you need to get in the sun daily

11) Chronically ill patients should go up to 5000-6000 until the blood levels

rise

12) Infants and up to 50# = 1000iu --above 50# 2000iu

IN SUMMARY

1) Join WAPF now

2) Get Dr. Cannell's tapes

3) Take your CLO

4) Don't be a " caveman "

Will

[Guest guest]

On Wednesday 14 December 2005 02:40 am, wrote:

> What is a good brand? And where does one find it?

> Jeanne

MVV carries the Blue Ice brand. They had CLO in cinnamon and mint and butter

oil when I was there almost 2 weeks ago. You can also order it from

www.greenpasture.org

Carlson's is not a good brand. I haven't heard a judgment on TwinLab. Does

anybody know?

--

Oster, MN

Isaiah 26:3

" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

everything else. "

--C. S.

[Guest guest]

Jeanne, We use Carlson's lemon flavored or Nordic Naturals (they have a

few different flavors). I ordered them online from iherb.com for about

$14 for 8oz bottle.

>Message: 14

> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:00:46 +0000

> From: jeannekrieg@...

>Subject: cod liver oil

>

>

>What is a good brand? And where does one find it?

>Jeanne

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We also really like Carlson's lemon-flavored. I once tried Garden of Life brand

and it almost made me puke (and I am the type that I'll try anything if you

convince me that it is good for me)!

I have heard something about high vitamin CLO but don't understand the

difference. (Haven't had the time to research it yet.)

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

Carlson's cod liver oil is popular because it tastes good. But it tastes

good because it is highly processed. From what I understand it contains fish

oils other than cod liver oil and has had some vitamins removed (vitamin A)

and some added (vitamin D).

Bruce

Re: Re: cholesterol and fish oil

>

>

> > Bruce,

> >

> > You have said that you do not take any polyunsaturated oils. For one,

> > they lead to more skin wrinkles and possibly other skin problems.

> Also,

> > someone on this forum mentioned that her LDL cholesterol went up from

> > using fish oil - whether that is the cause or not.

> >

> > We have many seniors including myself who are taking high quality fish

> > and cod liver oils in winter. This is due to studies showing positive

> > benefits to the heart, veins, brain, eyes, etc. What do you think of

> > these studies then? Would you advise not to take the fish oils?

> >

> > I also regularly use vco, as I feel it adds stability to the poly and

> > monounsaturated fatty acids in my cellular tissues. The more vco I

> take,

> > the more fish oil I believe I could take. Vco provides more protection

> > from free radicals. Some people take extra vitamin E.

> >

> > Could you comment with your thoughts on the pros or cons of fish oil?

> >

> > Lil

> >

> >

> >

> > Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > For the most part, doctors and nurses don't understand the cholesterol

> > issue. They are brainwashed by the educational material and continuing

> > education seminars sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry. Also keep

> in

> > mind that medical journals get all of their money from advertising from

> > these companies. Consequently, these companies have an enormous

> influence

> > in

> > what medical journals choose to publish and not publish. I know of

> > instances

> > where journal editors were threatened with the loss of advertising for

> > publishing articles on an herbs that competed with drugs sold by some

> of

> > the

> > journal's advertisers. This is why there appear to be many pro

> cholesterol

> > theory studies published and why researchers twist their data to fit

> the

> > " politically correct " dogma. If they don't, then they don't get

> published

> > and their careers suffer.

> >

> > Research is very competitive. The grants they get from sponsors pays

> their

> > mortgage and food bills as well as funds their studies and advances

> their

> > careers. If they produce results that are unfavorable to the sponsor

> and

> > publicize these results they will not get funded again by the sponsor

> or

> > anyone else in the industry because they will be labeled a

> troublemaker.

> > Essentially killing their career. It wasn't always like this. Years ago

> > most

> > researchers were concerned about finding and publishing the truth

> > regardless

> > of the consequences. Not nowadays. This situation has gotten worse over

> > the

> > past 30 years or so. Just in the past few weeks I've read articles in

> the

> > newspaper where two totally unrelated groundbreaking studies that have

> > been

> > widely accepted have proven to be totally bogus. The researchers made

> up

> > or

> > twisted the data to promote their careers. These were high profile

> cases

> > because their studies had enormous significance, but many other

> > researchers

> > working on less dramatic issues are doing the same thing. It is very

> > common

> > now. If you really want to know what a study has found you must read

> the

> > study in detail and even redo the math to check their calculations and

> > statistics. This is why researchers never accept the results of one or

> two

> > studies but require many studies from various researchers to verify the

> > results.

> >

> > Bruce

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Fife,

Thanks for your response. I will purchase the cod liver oil you recommended

from Wilderness Family Naturals.

Love,

Pamela

Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote: Pamela,

Carlson's cod liver oil is popular because it tastes good. But it tastes

good because it is highly processed. From what I understand it contains fish

oils other than cod liver oil and has had some vitamins removed (vitamin A)

and some added (vitamin D).

Bruce

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- Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

[Guest guest]

I use a brand called Blue Ice Cod liver oil. I buy the plain version and

add it to about 2-3 oz. of V-8 juice. Their brand uses some oil of rosemary

in it and it is MUCH better tasting in my opinion. The link is:

http://www.greenpasture.org/products.php

It is expensive but I believe it is worth it. Hope this helps.

Dee

Carlson's cod liver oil is popular because it tastes good. But it tastes

good because it is highly processed. From what I understand it contains fish

oils other than cod liver oil and has had some vitamins removed (vitamin A)

and some added (vitamin D).

============================

I bought some of their lemon flavored cod liver oil but still could not gag

it down. So chances are I wouldn't have any better luck with a better

brand.

Is there is a gel cap that is a high quality product? I live near Seattle,

so in winter we do indeed have less available vitamin D from the sun.

Bev Brown

[Guest guest]

Cara, I'm changing the subject on this to Cod Liver Oil. I'm so glad you brought this up.

You say that "Regular clo has 150mcg of iodine per 100g." Where did you find this info? Does the amount of iodine differ with the different brands?

Has anyone else experienced iodine-like symptoms with cod liver oil?

Cara, how much cod liver oil were you taking? What brand? Did you experience the same thing with different brands?

I'm fascinated that you got the same symptoms with 1 drop of Atomidine. Does anyone know how much iodine is in one drop of Atomidine???

We seem to have quite a few people in this group who are quite sensitive to Iodine. I wonder why.

Zoe

I always had problems when I took cod liver oil, which I now realize contains iodine. I'd feel like I had more energy for a few days, then I'd start getting a wired feeling and would have trouble sleeping. If I kept taking it, the wired feeling would turn into anxious/angry, especially around bedtime. I also had lots of inflammation, especially in my gums and around lymph nodes, lots of big pimples in strange places, and strange heartbeats/palpitations. When I tried taking iodine a couple of years ago (1 drop of Atomidine per day), I immediately got the same symptoms as I did on cod liver oil. I'm certain it was the iodine in cod liver oil that was causing me these problems because high levels of A, D, and fatty acids don't provoke this reaction. Also, about 10% of the general population can't tolerate cod liver oil, and get symptoms that match iodine detox symptoms (though it's usually blamed on EPA and DHA). And I just read this in an old article on cod liver oil from 1898:"Cod-liver oil is a remedy for defective nutrition, and when tolerated can be relied upon to give good results; but if it provokes persistent nausea, vomiting, disgust, and diarrhoea, it can not be expected to be other than harmful."So it seems that a few people have always had problems with cod liver oil and those symptoms seem like iodine detox. Regular clo has 150mcg of iodine per 100g. With most manufacturing methods that I'm familiar with, high vitamin clo would concentrate the iodine along with the A and D, which still isn't a whole lot of iodine. I wonder if cod liver oil would be a better iodine source for ultra-sensitive people until they can tolerate the higher amounts in atomidine? And why some people are so sensitive in the first place?Cara

[Guest guest]

> You say that " Regular clo has 150mcg of iodine per 100g. " Where

> did you find this info? Does the amount of iodine differ with the

> different brands?

After about three hours of searching, I finally found the number

from Solgar's cod liver oil capsules. Here's a link to one of the

supplement descriptions:

http://www.mothernature.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/42954/S/99353

Yes, iodine content will differ between brands, extraction methods,

and even within lots of the same brand - just like vitamins A and D.

> Has anyone else experienced iodine-like symptoms with cod liver

> oil?

I have several relatives who do, and people with the disorder

pyroluria (google for description) generally have problems with cod

liver oil, fish oil, kelp, and flax. It's blamed on the n3's, and

it may be to some extent, but I think iodine is responsible because

fish oils bring symptoms on much stronger than flax (which only has

trace amounts of iodine), and kelp which has little n3.

Pyroluria is present in 10% of the general population, but much

higher in certain demographics, such as those with celiac/gluten

intolerance and autism.

Incidently some celiacs are very, very sensitive to iodine, too.

Consuming iodine in the form of iodized salt or seafood causes a

Dermatitis Herpetiformis flare-up. Most celiacs report that the can

tolerate the iodine in salt and seafood after 1-2 years on a gluten-

free diet.

> Cara, how much cod liver oil were you taking? What brand? Did

> you experience the same thing with different brands?

I can't recall exact dosages with the various brands I tried because

I did many experiments, but it was in excess of 1 spoonful, and it

would usually take a week or two to get symptoms, depending on the

amount I took. Bigger doses of clo = more intense symptoms and

earlier appearance of symptoms.

I tried Premier/Quantum clo, Carlson's clo, and Blue Ice. Blue Ice

is high vitamin and I remember getting the biggest reaction from

it.

> I'm fascinated that you got the same symptoms with 1 drop of

> Atomidine. Does anyone know how much iodine is in one drop of

> Atomidine???

http://naprashopping.com/ingr/ingr179100.cfm

Looks like 600mcg

> We seem to have quite a few people in this group who are quite

> sensitive to Iodine. I wonder why.

I wonder if Iodine sensitive people are also sensitive to the

effects of other drugs/supplements. If I even look in the general

direction of a magnesium supplement, I get overdose symptoms. Also,

caffine, alcohol, amino acids like tyrosine are overstimulating to

me. A little goes a long, long way.

I was reading something in a nutrition book, and the nutritionist

was describing some of her work with tyrosine. She talked of a

gentleman she treated who showed signs of being strongly deficient

in dopamine, but was remadied with only a small amount of tyrosine.

I can't remember exactly her reasoning, but she basically said that

some people, especially native americans, are very efficient users

of things like tyrosine. I happen to be 1/8 Cherokee.

Cara

[Guest guest]

> > I'm fascinated that you got the same symptoms with 1 drop of

> > Atomidine. Does anyone know how much iodine is in one drop of

> > Atomidine???

>

> http://naprashopping.com/ingr/ingr179100.cfm

> Looks like 600mcg

That didn't sound right when I typed it...I remember now that I used

iodine from biotics research, instead, which is KI, not atomidine.

http://www.bioticsresearch.com/Products/LiquidIodine.htm

1 drop has 75 mcg.

[Guest guest]

"I always had problems when I took cod liver oil, which I now realize contains iodine. I'd feel like I had more energy for a few days, then I'd start getting a wired feeling and would have trouble sleeping. If I kept taking it, the wired feeling would turn into anxious/angry, especially around bedtime. I also had lots of inflammation, especially in my gums and around lymph nodes, lots of big pimples in strange places, and strange heartbeats/palpitations." -- Cara

Cara, I'm trying to think through your symptoms. Which ones are classic iodine symptoms? Which ones might be related to something else? Unfortunately, I'm not very good yet with identifying symptoms and causes.

Brownstein (p 155) mentions the following as classic signs of iodine that is too high: metallic taste in the mouth, increased salivation, sneezing, headache (especially sinus headache in the frontal area), and acne. He also seems to treat palpitations as an indicator for lowering iodine.

Abraham mentions acne-like lesions "in certain areas of your body", headache in frontal sinus, unpleasant, brassy taste.

Bruce West mentions skin irritation, watery eyes, runny nose, excess saliva, nervousness, tachycardia (racing heart), headache.

Your symptoms which sound most like these are (1) big pimples in strange places and (2) strange heartbeats/palpitations.

Some of your symptoms sound like classic thyroid/adrenal problems -- e.g., wired feeling, trouble sleeping, anxious/angry, strange heartbeats/palpitations.

Pimples can also be a detox reaction, and I don't know how to tell whether they are a detox or something else.

I don't know what to make of the inflammation, especially in gums and around lymph nodes.

So, at this point, it sounds to me that the symptoms might be due to the iodine, but might also be due to other factors. So, both are possible hypotheses.

If your symptoms turn on and off when you take cod liver oil and Atomidine, that would certainly suggest that iodine might be playing a role.

Very interesting.

Zoe

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> You say that "Regular clo has 150mcg of iodine per 100g." Where did you find this info? Does the amount of iodine differ with the different brands? "After about three hours of searching, I finally found the number from Solgar's cod liver oil capsules. Here's a link to one of the supplement descriptions: http://www.mothernature.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/42954/S/99353"Yes, iodine content will differ between brands, extraction methods, and even within lots of the same brand - just like vitamins A and D." -- Cara

Three hours of searching! You really had to look hard for this information. Thanks for finding it!!!

I wonder if it would be worth contacting a couple of the major cod liver oil manufacturers on this one. Especially, if cod liver oil becomes one of our recommended sources for iodine.

Zoe