flu

[Guest guest]

Thank you all. did get a shot 2 years ago and

caught the flu anyway. He was in the hospital for 6 days.

He did get vaccinated this year. I hope it helps! I am

just so worried! So far the flu hasnt hit his school, but

it is in surrounding counties. Thanks again!

Marcy

" rwlewis8 " <rwlewis8@...> wrote:

>My understanding is that certain flu strains are more

>common every

>few years, and that each spring a committee of experts

>decides what

>are the most likely three strains expected for the

>following

>winter. It then takes six months to develop the vaccine.

> The cases

>seen early this season are of a strain not covered by the

>current

>flu shot, but it is closely related to one of the strains

>covered by

>the vaccine, thereby providing some protection. As in

>previous

>years even with vaccination, one can occasionally acquire

>the flu,

>even the strains covered by the flu shot, but then the

>symptoms are

>much milder. Bacterial pneumonia can be a secondary

>complication

>from having a viral flu.

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>Randall

>

>

>

>> I have also heard that for some reason the flu shot is

>>not as

>strong this year and that what is so bad about this yrs

>flu is it

>is causing a staph like infection in the lungs--really

>scary!

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Page 453 in the Encyclopedia. If you would like to, you can order the

book from me. Click on the link below

http://www.foodforyourblood.com

flu

Has Dr. D done any recent flu strain comparisons w/ blood type? Healthy

Day

All..

[Guest guest]

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers. Nevertheless,

I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I did get the flu shot

two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was working at the time. One

of those year’s I got the flu anyway. That was the last considered taking the

shot. I also do not let my children take the shot, but that is a personal

decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The flu

is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and take care

of his or her self.

Jack

Flu

I don't know if this will ease any panic, but both my boys had the flu very

early in the season (October or so). One ran a temp of 102-104 off and on for

many days. They were both knocked out for about 10 days or so with aches,

fever, sleeping all day, runny noses, etc. About 85 kids from their school were

out. Needless to say, they are both doing fine now. It was the flu...not

bubonic plague. If your child is generally healthy and not too young, the flu

is not life threatening. As is often the case, we actually saw a little

language spurt after the illness....

LHS

[Guest guest]

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers. Nevertheless,

I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I did get the flu shot

two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was working at the time. One

of those year’s I got the flu anyway. That was the last considered taking the

shot. I also do not let my children take the shot, but that is a personal

decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The flu

is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and take care

of his or her self.

Jack

Flu

I don't know if this will ease any panic, but both my boys had the flu very

early in the season (October or so). One ran a temp of 102-104 off and on for

many days. They were both knocked out for about 10 days or so with aches,

fever, sleeping all day, runny noses, etc. About 85 kids from their school were

out. Needless to say, they are both doing fine now. It was the flu...not

bubonic plague. If your child is generally healthy and not too young, the flu

is not life threatening. As is often the case, we actually saw a little

language spurt after the illness....

LHS

[Guest guest]

Much like chicken pox --- I was brainwashed into thinking my kids HAD to

have the vaccination for it. did and got chicken pox anyway!

Geez...... what's this world coming to!

We are taking our chances with the flu. Loading up on lotsa vitamin C and

praying for the best!

_____

From: CRAIG, JACK [mailto:jack.craig@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:34 PM

Autism Treatment

Subject: RE: Flu

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers.

Nevertheless, I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I

did get the flu shot two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was

working at the time. One of those year's I got the flu anyway. That was

the last considered taking the shot. I also do not let my children take the

shot, but that is a personal decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The

flu is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and

take care of his or her self.

Jack

Flu

I don't know if this will ease any panic, but both my boys had the flu

very early in the season (October or so). One ran a temp of 102-104 off and

on for many days. They were both knocked out for about 10 days or so with

aches, fever, sleeping all day, runny noses, etc. About 85 kids from their

school were out. Needless to say, they are both doing fine now. It was the

flu...not bubonic plague. If your child is generally healthy and not too

young, the flu is not life threatening. As is often the case, we actually

saw a little language spurt after the illness....

LHS

[Guest guest]

Much like chicken pox --- I was brainwashed into thinking my kids HAD to

have the vaccination for it. did and got chicken pox anyway!

Geez...... what's this world coming to!

We are taking our chances with the flu. Loading up on lotsa vitamin C and

praying for the best!

_____

From: CRAIG, JACK [mailto:jack.craig@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:34 PM

Autism Treatment

Subject: RE: Flu

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers.

Nevertheless, I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I

did get the flu shot two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was

working at the time. One of those year's I got the flu anyway. That was

the last considered taking the shot. I also do not let my children take the

shot, but that is a personal decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The

flu is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and

take care of his or her self.

Jack

Flu

I don't know if this will ease any panic, but both my boys had the flu

very early in the season (October or so). One ran a temp of 102-104 off and

on for many days. They were both knocked out for about 10 days or so with

aches, fever, sleeping all day, runny noses, etc. About 85 kids from their

school were out. Needless to say, they are both doing fine now. It was the

flu...not bubonic plague. If your child is generally healthy and not too

young, the flu is not life threatening. As is often the case, we actually

saw a little language spurt after the illness....

LHS

[Guest guest]

RE: Flu

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers.

Nevertheless, I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I

did get the flu shot two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was

working at the time. One of those year’s I got the flu anyway. That was

the last considered taking the shot. I also do not let my children take the

shot, but that is a personal decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The

flu is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and

take care of his or her self.

Actually, the flu can be a death sentence if the person with it has a

compromised immune system, a chronic illness such as asthma, COPD etc., or

is very old. I just had the flu and developed pneumonia. I almost died.

Nonetheless, I can't really advocate the flu shot, knowing what I know now.

Terri

[Guest guest]

RE: Flu

Personally, I would be afraid to advise someone whether to get a flu shot or

not. However, I will say, at 48 I have had the flu many times. I also had

measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough as a child, but that is another

story. The flu is rough sometimes as I am prone to high fevers.

Nevertheless, I always get over it and I am a healthy 48-year-old man. I

did get the flu shot two times in the 80s as it was given free where I was

working at the time. One of those year’s I got the flu anyway. That was

the last considered taking the shot. I also do not let my children take the

shot, but that is a personal decision that I have made.

Anyway, just my take on the subject. The flu is not a death sentence. The

flu is usually only an inconvenience that causes one to take time out and

take care of his or her self.

Actually, the flu can be a death sentence if the person with it has a

compromised immune system, a chronic illness such as asthma, COPD etc., or

is very old. I just had the flu and developed pneumonia. I almost died.

Nonetheless, I can't really advocate the flu shot, knowing what I know now.

Terri

[Guest guest]

Its a tough, for or against the vaccine.

I too 5 yrs ago took the vaccine along with my child,

only to find ourselves sick for over a month after receiving the vaccine.

But the concern over how to get thru the season. One try to reduce stress.

Get plenty of rest, sunlight, exercise along with the use of herbs and vits.

I also still had concerns and went to the DR to get an antiviral for the Flu,

called Tramiflu. Its expensive, but I did notice the shelf life is 3 yrs.

And you

have to start taking it within the first 48 hrs of symptoms of the Flu.

Someone asked " how to get a child to expectorate. " Gosh that's even difficult

for adults with thick secretions. What I do like to use is one Tsp. of lemon

juice and honey first thing in the mornings if my son, has congestion.

I will cont. throughout the day,to have him drink lemon water, if he

continues

to have a thick secretions. As this really helps, and a great way to get some

extra Vit C in his system.

> We have no intention of getting the flu shot this year, but fully plan to

> stock up on Triaminic, ibuprofen, acetamenophen, tissue with aloe, Sudafed,

> etc.....

>

> By the way, anyone out there got any idea how to get these kids to actually

> expectorate? It is really hard to get them to blow, but nearly impossible to

> get them to expectorate. It just slows down recovery time so much

[Guest guest]

Its a tough, for or against the vaccine.

I too 5 yrs ago took the vaccine along with my child,

only to find ourselves sick for over a month after receiving the vaccine.

But the concern over how to get thru the season. One try to reduce stress.

Get plenty of rest, sunlight, exercise along with the use of herbs and vits.

I also still had concerns and went to the DR to get an antiviral for the Flu,

called Tramiflu. Its expensive, but I did notice the shelf life is 3 yrs.

And you

have to start taking it within the first 48 hrs of symptoms of the Flu.

Someone asked " how to get a child to expectorate. " Gosh that's even difficult

for adults with thick secretions. What I do like to use is one Tsp. of lemon

juice and honey first thing in the mornings if my son, has congestion.

I will cont. throughout the day,to have him drink lemon water, if he

continues

to have a thick secretions. As this really helps, and a great way to get some

extra Vit C in his system.

> We have no intention of getting the flu shot this year, but fully plan to

> stock up on Triaminic, ibuprofen, acetamenophen, tissue with aloe, Sudafed,

> etc.....

>

> By the way, anyone out there got any idea how to get these kids to actually

> expectorate? It is really hard to get them to blow, but nearly impossible to

> get them to expectorate. It just slows down recovery time so much

[Guest guest]

hope you'll be feeling better real soon. I've been doctoring bronchitis

since Thanksgiving, making several trip to ER. Forget it about ER doctors

knowing

much about SMA, last dr asked me what that was. My advice is plenty of

fluids, rest and if you're not feeling better soon go back to your pulmonologist

because they understand about bronchitis better than anybody. I was on my 4th

antibiotics from family dr and wasn't getting better. 3 days after see

pulmonologistI noticed great improvement. Being at home is always the best

place to

be you get better care there and less germs. Seasons Greetings to you

[Guest guest]

Hi Kendra, glad you are home at least! Are they sending an RT or PT to your home

to do chest physio / manual coughing? And I agree, you need that cough assist!

They are a miracle machine - Bernie is sick just with a cold now, and he gets a

little mucous at the back of his throat like you describe. We use that machine

and it gets the crud high enough up for him to clear it from his throat. He

knows enough to ask for the machine when he needs it. It is SO much more

comfortable than suctioning. It's not difficult to get a letter of necessity

from Dr Bach for the cough assist, or FSMA may have one in the equipment

cupboard that they can loan you.

Hoping you feel better soon, wish I could help!

Bettylou

[Guest guest]

Does your pulmonary know what a cough assist machine / in-exsuffulator is? He

could prescribe you one. Our medical supply has them so we can get one fairly

quick.

[Guest guest]

you should be able to buy or rent a cough assist to have on had. My insurance

bought mine. That way it's on hand if you get a cold or aspirate. It's best

to have one on hand or at least have an ER or doctor office you can go to use

it if needed.

[Guest guest]

kendra, when i had the flu in november, i got sooo weak, i couldnt even lift

up my hand. it scared me! ive never felt that weak, i thought id never regain

my strength. it took like 3 weeks to come back! but let me just say,

whoever came up w/the cough assist is a DAMN GENIUS! when you get one youll know

what im talking about!

-

[Guest guest]

the pulmonologist knew about the cough assist and we are to call on

monday to see if it is available. they didnt have one so they were

loaning from another hospital. i dont really think i need it now. my

congestion has decreased a great deal. im better with breathing, but

still achy and dizzy and tired. im told a lot of it has to do with

the meds.

im on the robitussin and advil, because fevers keep coming back, and

zithromax. its heavy stuff but it turns all the mucus into very thin

liquid that seems to come up by itself and i can spit out. at least

its getting loosened up and out of me. ive never felt so weak in my

life. i can barely push the remote control buttons to turn the tv at

nights. sitting up is becoming a tedious hassle. i cant wait until im

feeling better and back to my old self. im sleeping a lot (about 12 -

16 hours/night and naps in the day) and drinking nearly 4 pitchers of

water/day which i was told is the best thing for illness.

my mom is having my dr help us receive a cough assist for home use. i

dont have a PT that comes in, but my mom was shown how to do the

chest pounding properly and we've been doing that. this morning i had

the most productive cough and it was so strong (sorry im just proud

of that - the kids are so confused why im so sick, ive never really

been so weak like this with an illness, so they just tease me about

my coughs sounding like that asian-looking character on MadTV).

ill post in a few days. i hope everyone is doing alright and having a

good holiday season.

kristen - thanks for the email, ill write you back soon. i just need

to get to bed for now.

~Kendra

> Does your pulmonary know what a cough assist machine / in-

exsuffulator is? He

> could prescribe you one. Our medical supply has them so we can get

one fairly

> quick.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

kendrascalia wrote:

> im glad im home. im just a little worried. does this sound normal? i

> mean - its the flu -- and i never had a flu shot this year...

>

> ~kendra

It sounds pretty typical of experiences I've had with the flu. The main

doc at the MDA here was clueless about CoughAssist too.

Hope you feel better soon. I was sick over Christmas too. It sucks!

Jenn

[Guest guest]

<<What I wondered was, has anyone else experienced the same oddities w/

the temp and BS?>>

Nope, we had the flu just like on the news...high fever, chills,

aches...we took oscill-whatever and the high fever was gone in about 16

hours, was left with around 100 degrees. I think we would have been

fine if we hadn't been assaulted by the secondary infections, about 4

days later. Everyone else I know who had it had the bad stuff for a

week or MORE! My mom (big alternative med doubter) was even impressed

with our recovery.

M

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

1) Ozonated water, 6 glasses per day, on an empty stomach

2) Rectal insufflation, following an enema, once daily

3) Acidophilus and probiotics if you can keep them down

4) 10 grams of buffered Vitamin C, at the end of the day

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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<oxyplus >

Subject: Flu

Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:08:51 -0000

Hi Saul

How would you treat influenza with ozone?

[Guest guest]

Hi Saul

Would vaginal insufflation work as well as rectal insufflation? Would there

be any benefit to breathing ozone through olive oil for the lungs???

I haven't got the flu btw. I just want to be prepared just in case

Thanks

Flu

> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:08:51 -0000

>

> Hi Saul

>

> How would you treat influenza with ozone?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Any method of getting ozone in is going to be helpful.

I suggested rectal insufflation because the bug is in the intestines.

So if you drink ozonated water, you get it from the top down,

and with rectal insufflation, you get it from the bottom up.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: Flu

Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:05:55 -0000

Hi Saul

Would vaginal insufflation work as well as rectal insufflation? Would there

be any benefit to breathing ozone through olive oil for the lungs???

I haven't got the flu btw. I just want to be prepared just in case

Thanks

Flu

> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:08:51 -0000

>

> Hi Saul

>

> How would you treat influenza with ozone?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the v useful info Saul. I had always thought the flu bug resided

in

the chest/lung area. I can see why the protocol you suggest would be best

> Flu

> > > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:08:51 -0000

> > >

> > > Hi Saul

> > >

> > > How would you treat influenza with ozone?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Electrification is good, but if you don't have your device yet there

is another good way.

What works for me is an eyedropper of regular hydrogen peroxide in the

ear. Keep head tilted until the fizzing stops (maybe 5 or more

minutes), then do the other ear.

This is regular drugstore 3.5% stuff NOT the higher potency peroxide

at high percentage concentrations!

Run a google with hydrogen peroxide and colds and flu, or see Dr

Mercola's comments:

http://www.mercola.com/2002/mar/13/hydrogen_peroxide.htm

You'll feel better tomorrow instead of a week and a half from now.

Chuck

Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?

On 12/27/2004 10:39:59 PM,

wrote:

> I have caught the flu. I have recently joined the group in about last

>

> month and I don't have Beck's stimulator yet and I want to know if

>

> Bob Beck's stimulator is really helpful or not in preventing and or

> treating flu???

> Kindly respond

> Thanks

> Reza

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Reza. Well it is a frequency that targets ALL virus', bad bacteria

and fungi and some parasites. So my guess is that it would help with

the flu but have no experience. I am 54 and haven't had the flu since I

was a child so haven't had an opportunity to try it out.

In the mean time you might look into olive leaf extract, which is anti

viral, or colloidal silver, also recommended by Beck, which is also

antiviral, or ozonated water, which is also part of the Beck protocol,

and is anti viral.

\

Or plain old garlic. I recently heard a Dr. Schulze testimony

of a lady he met who had studied some of his stuff on garlic. She was

80 years old and had a viral infection that the docs could not help her

with. They tried every anti biotic known to man, which makes no sense,

since a virus is not a bacteria. They finally told her that there was

nothing they could do. She took matters into her own hands after some

minor study and started taked copious amounts of raw crushed garlic. 49

cloves a day and in three days was totally free of her viral problem.

Why 49? I have no clue. I think she just started taking it and didn't

stop until she was getting some relief and stayed at that dose for

several days.

Garlic affects some people negatively brain wise so you would want to

know your own tolerance. But garlic is anti viral, fungal and bacterial

and is cheap.

Good luck

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

physical_therapist_2004 wrote:

>

> I have caught the flu. I have recently joined the group in about last

> month and I don't have Beck's stimulator yet and I want to know if

> Bob Beck's stimulator is really helpful or not in preventing and or

> treating flu???

> Kindly respond

> Thanks

> Reza

>

>

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/27/2004 9:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

physical_therapist_2004@... writes:

How many drops should I use??

Fill the ear canal with the peroxide.

Here are some flu remedies posted last October by I think:

Following is a listing of the contributions sent in to my request

for everyones flu remedies. I have included the actual comments on

the bottom of this listing, cleaned up a bit and placed in the same

font for easier reading. I originally intended to add more of my own

and I will still work on this but most of my remedies are included

here. To develop it further would have seen the flu season come and

go and want the information to get out as timely as possible. A

google search will provide most additional information that anyone

will need. I will continue to compile more and will post when I have

a significant addition. Be healthy...

Colloidal Silver:

10PPM solution orally daily during flu season

Sinus Spray

Nebulize with 20% DMSO

Spray in eyes and use as ear drops daily during flu seas

Electromagnetic:

Magnetic Pulser

LED Arrays

Electric Pulser

Essential Oils:

Oil of Oregano

Foods:

Garlic

Onions

Hallelujuh Diet

Herbs:

Echinacia

Garlic

Ginseng

Golden Seal

Larrea Tridentata

Lomatium

St. 's Wort

Olive Leaf

Astragalus

Homeopathics

Influenza

Oscillococcinum 200C when symptoms of flu begin or 3-4 pellets once

a week Oct –April.

Delisos Dolivaxil, 1 dose per week for 3 weeks- wait 3 weeks take

another dose. It comes in single dose tubes.

Other:

WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN

Brisk Walks

Fasting

Hydrogen Peroxide

Ozone Insufflations

Rebounder 15 Minutes per day

Qi Gong

Fresh Vegetables, lettuce ( not iceberg), carrots, broccoli, onions.

Rife Treatment:

2004 Frequencies

Supplements:

Transfer Factor

Vit D: 4000 IU and Vit A

Vit C 3 Grams per day 20,000 IU Daily Oct -April

********************************************************************

Well here we are in the flu season again . And we have the public

running scared. ON the radio this morning they gave a grim outlook

for

the flu season. Hospitals are full. No vaccine. A crisis in the

making.

I am utilizing three approaches to fighting the flu.

1. For those with an FSCAN here is an excerpt for Dr. Loyd

recently: " Sorry to hear about your cold. I am one that has seen

colds and

flu clear up many times in one treatment. We are finding some common

virus frequencies between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000. You can DIRP

that range in one stage. " I used this with my kids and it worked!!

2. The FREX 12 program download for free from www.healme.com.au

When you open the program go to the DATABASE tab and put " trr " in

the

search box and up will come the 2004 Flu frequencies. This program

has an audible

frequency generator so you can play it over your computer speakers

etc.

3. If all else fails and you have no access to a Rife machine, get

the

highest rated immune system booster on the market. Transfer Factor

Plus at www.4life.com . I hate MLM's but this is the best product

out there . If they ask you for a sponsor # mine is 6030221. But,

above all read the info on the site and make your own decision.

Henry

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Make sure you're getting the CS into the sinus cavities.... put

several drops of 10% ionic CS into the nostrils while the head is

tilted back.... preferably while lying down with your head over the

side of a bed... roll your head gently from side to side for 3-4

minutes. Do that two or three (or more) times daily and it should

clear up just about any sinus infection. The key is getting to

silver to make contact with the germs. The next thing I would do is

get the heck out of that building!

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We haven't had flu in years. Take 4000 iu daily of Vit D and 20,000

of Vit A from Oct thru April......Jane

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Dear ,

I can think of a few others:

1) echinacia

2) colloidal silver

3) hydrogen peroxide baths

4) garlic and onions (yum!)

5) Vitamin C at 3 grams per day

6) brisk walk in the park

7) 15 minutes a day on a rebounder

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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and what do you think of " Airborne? " I swear by Ocillicoccinum &

pure E.O. of Oregano, but have not had any experience with Airborne

yet. – O

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Time tested and almost fullproof: Homeopathic Influenza prevetion

Influenzinum 200C, two pills under the tongue once per month during

the flu season.Cost: A vial with 180+ pills costs about $10. When

you figure 6 months of flu season, you are talking 12 pills per

year. So, the above vial is a 15 year supply for one person.

In case there are symptoms of flu, give the same remedy TID. In

addition or instead, you can give Oscilococcinum 200C at onset of

symptoms. Same cost...

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Prevention: 10 ppm Colloidal Silver orally 1-3 cups a day during flu

season. Spray eyes, nose and drops in ears when exposed to crowds or

feeling really tired. Nebulize 20% DMSO and CS if any lung symptoms

or when allergies cause mucous.Olive Leaf is also a favorite herb I

use for flu. Mostly for treating it which I have not had to do since

I started CS last November. Olive Leaf

is also preventative. Yarrow comes to mind as a preventative as

well. Of course Golden Seal and Ehinacea do too, but some say these

herbs are being over used. I also find them too hard on the stomach,

CS is soooomuch easier.

Just avoided some bad food poisoning with CS last week, serious case

was averted by drinking 2 cups of 10 ppm immediately and following

up with sips for the next few hours.

Garnet

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Hi ,

I read some where, Edgar Cacye, I think, that a fresh salad made

with lettuce, (green lettuce, not iceburg), carrots, and celery,

eaten every day would prevent colds.I tried this for 2 years and it

worked for me, now I takeCS. During this time I worked in a nursing

home with about

100 patients and 100 employees. All patients but 1 received the flu

shot, about 75% of the

employees received the flu shot. During this 2 years, over half the

employees called in at least

once with the flu and over half the patients were treated for a

fever at least once, (tylenol and/or antibiotics). I have not had a

flu shot in over 20 years.

HTH,

turtle

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I think the NUMBER ONE method. . . WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN, and don't

put your fingers in your nose/wash your eyes unless you're sure they

haven't touched ANYTHING that somebody with the flu might have

touched. Second, eat a lot of fresh fruits and veggies. . .

antioxidants and such. Three, BELEIVE you won't get sick.Four,

Sanitize door knobs. . .and other things you touch that others

touch. . .And the one that's worked best for me (no flu shots, no

flu in the past 15 years . . .) as much as possible, stay away from

people that have the flu. . .working from home sure doesn't

hurt. . . but even when I did hospital/LTC, I rarely got sick. . .

and the two times in the past 10 years when my husband got the flu,

I didn't. . . I think having the right parents/grandparents helps

as well. . .

Jan Patenaude, RD

Director, Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corp.

www.nowleap.com

970-963-3695

1-866-230-7232 (toll free)

Fax: 215-895-9921

DineRight4@... or JanP@...

Disease Management Programs for Irritable Bowel Syndrome and

Migraine caused by Food Sensitivity

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I find that a herbal remedy containing Siberian Ginseng

(Eleuthereococcus senticosus) works brilliantly as a preventative.

However, MUST stop taking it if you get a cold or 'flu as it appears

to exacerbate the acute conditions. When I have forgotten to give

this advice, clients have said they have had the worst 'flu ever,

but it only lasted a couple of days and they felt great afterwards.

I suspect that the Eleutherococcus strengthens the system so that a

good dose of the 'flu has the good cleansing effect that many of us

believe colds and 'flu are all about.

Helen son

Naturopath & Herbalist

Head of Naturopathy

South Australian Health Education Centre

Adelaide, SA

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check into stelth virus,abx resistance, cellwall deficentcy,lymes.

roger

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For flu protection, use Delisos Dolivaxil. One dose tube a week for

three weeks and then skip three weeks and another dose tube. It has

all the flu strains identified by WHO for this year in it and it

works as effectively as flu vaccine. Better yet, no flu vaccine side

effects. You may need your health practitioner to order this.

If you get the flu, Oscillicoccinum will usually stop it in its

tracks. I have never heard of anyone who died from the flu who took

it. It is in every health food store and whole foods supermarket in

the country and is Boiron's top selling product. I tell everyone

they are risking their life if they don't have this in their

medicine chest. The flu vaccine does not prevent the flu a huge

proportion of

the time even if you get a flu shot.

Finally, anyone over 40 who is not taking Transfer Factor Plus

should seriously evaluate their health strategies. It boosts the

immune system by 4-6 times, better than any immune supplement I have

tested. You can call Dale Fawcett in Seattle at (360) 598-6585 for

that. Tell him I sent you.

I've stopped a flu epidemic in an office of 50 people, every one of

them infected, in one afternoon with Oscillicocinum and an immune

supplement. I got tired of having to disinfect myself with Rife

frequencies every day. Some of the staff went home and said it cured

their babies from nursing.

Of course, whenever I do this, I take flak from my fellow healthcare

executives who want to avoid any liability. (It is usually not the

physicians who complain as they tend to take my advice). They would

prefer to have people out of work for a week and seeing their

doctors. So usually I just irradiate my office with the right

frequencies and make anyone who comes in sign a release form.

Failing all of the above, the Rife frequencies for the flu will be

posted within a few days of an outbreak. Last year we beat the CDC

and state health agencies in announcing the flu epidemic and had the

frequencies for it. The frequencies worked on everyone we know who

tried them.

Jeff Sutherland

http://frequencyresearch.org/

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For Flu I also use Lomatium, which kills viruses and St 's Wort

(aka Hypericum). Herb Pharm makes a combo of these two. Grapes and

grape juice are also anti-viral, the darker skinned the better.

Alkalinizing your system by your diet is a good preventative. Google

Alkalinize and

Foods for more info. The food preservative BHT kills envelope

viruses like herpes so can be

helpful during the flu, mixed with oil and used topically it kills

herpes and can be taken with oil or high fat meal, 500-1000 mg

daily. Golden Seal long term is liver toxic. Ehcinacea can only

stimulate Killer T Cells for so long before the immune system reacts

by not reacting. Pulsing is often recommended in many herbal

regimens. And only taking Ehcinacea and GS during an outbreak or

risk of one, or when sick of course. It's just part of knowing how

to use plants as medicine -- know their side effects, ask a GOOD

herbalist before taking something you are not

familiar with. Herbs can hurt you as well as help you. On over using

CS/EIS all I know is that a bunch of people have taken an

appreciable amount every day for many years with no untoward

effects. Bacterial resistance is a matter of selecting out the

individuals who are naturally immune. When these cells lines

reproduce you have a population of resistant bacteria -- at least to

that antibiotic. DMSO will by pass this resistance and carry the

antibiotic passed the resistance at the cell membrane. Viruses do

not become resistant but their genetic material can mutate, hence

the ready supply of " new " viruses.

Garnet

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Hi ,

My husband & I have been on the Hallelujah diet for 5 years. I

used to catch everything & be sick for a couple of weeks. Since

getting off animal products we have not had one flu in 5 years. I

have had 2 colds which cleared up in a couple of days. We have sat

in rooms with people who have been bed-ridden with really bad flu &

we have not caught it. We have never had the flu vaccination & hope

we never will. Regards Rosemary.

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Hey, Nan ! Keep up the good work, Sweetheart ! Here´s a big, bear

hug and kiss for you !!

Plz don´t encourage your dad, any more, to get a flu shot. Rather,

get some Oscillicoccinum into his " bod " on an very three day basis

for 14 days. Don´t be surprised at his overall improvement, just

watch him improve till he plateaus. Then do the Oscillicoccinum

again. Peace,

dr.b_helthi

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Hello everyone,

I was reading the string on Flu treatments and preventative and

thought it appropriate to tell you about Larrea Tridentata. It is a

proven anti-viral both RNA and DNA related. I work for

an MD and Doc of Oriental Medicine and see it work on a regular

basis. This herb is available in non-toxic for at: ww

w.shegoi.net/larreaheals I was also wondering if we could use an

imprinter like Eagle's technology and make a homeopathic from either

someone infected or last years vaccine?

Paddy McAlister

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What about a colloidal silver nasal spray? There is a method for

making our own 3-5ppm colloidal silver located at: http://777-

science.members.easyspace.com/colloidal-silver.html

Randolph

777-Health.com

I never had flue since I started to fast once a week. My cost for

the fast is 0.

Ellen wrote:

Mike, we have not had the flu since we started using the

Ocillicoccinum. We have " caught " the flu, but killed it within 24

hours with the Ocilli. However since we started using the F-scan, we

are not needing the Ocilli as often, because we are obviiously

building up our immune systems. www.miracle2network.com/me

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Purify the air in your home, office, car, RV, boat for pennies a day.

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Good questions Mike. The Oscilli is homeopathic and therefore has an

indefinite shelf life. It's best to keep it out of direct sunlight.

We keep it in the glove-box of the automobile and in our bathroom,

and near the bed. It is around $10.00 [in flue season] for the

family size in just about any health-food store. {Walgreens carried

it for years, but that stopped a while back.} It's homeopathic - it

can't hurt you. [taken from goose liver.] Whatever happened to goose

liver pat'e? We NEED it in our diet. One " serving " consists of 3

viles filled with hundreds of tiny homeopathic pellets. Just pour

under your tongue and allow to dissolve. It is powerful. For most

folks, the 3 vials are needed to be effective. Once my husband

needed four vials [i think because he was just about 24 hours into

the flu infection before he could get to his supply of Oscilli -

plus he is a big guy.] We also discovered that it isn't necessary to

wait the prescribed 6 hours between dosages. My husband took the 2nd

dose in about 2 hours and the 3rd in 3 or 4 hours. We also take a

vial after zapping if we feel flu-like detox symptoms.

www.miracle2network.com/me

Hey, great research opportunity..see if u beat it using the battery!

see for the 15 minutes, no electronics

parts needed kitchen table way to do this.

bG

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Flu 2003

For this problem, I would use an antiseptic regimen, such as vitamin

C, olive leaf extract, and oregano oil internally. I would

disinfect the ears using 3% hydrogen peroxide and the eyes, nose,

and mouth with saline or colloidal silver, following my rule that

when there is a head, inner ear, sinus, etc, infection to

disinfect " all the holes

in the head. " A good way to make 3% H2O2 is to use 35% food grade

and make the 11:1 ratio by putting a half teaspoon of the 35% in a

1 oz dropper bottle and filling the rest with colloidal silver.

turf

" Sara Klein Ridgley, Ph.D. "