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Price Chopper on the east coast is saying the same thing, but I want to

check it out better, and have it in writing before I broadcast it

everywhere.... this is important.

Always be well,

At 03:32 PM 12/7/99 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello, a forward from a Massage Therapist Friend.Liz

>

>>From: Joyce Bell <jbtx0111@...>

>>Organization: Healthful House

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>> <gregory>

>>Subject: Milk

>>

>>Dear Liz,

>>Albertsons brand milk does not have the new additive in it. They decided

>>not to give the milk producing hormone to their cows. That means

>>Albertsons brand Milk, Butter, Cottage Cheese Etc. Lool into it.

>>This was the information I got when they first broke the news about the

>>use of the new hormone........ Joyce, Love You

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In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, xtina@...

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<< Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you please??

>>

www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of vegan sites

will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil Nutrition had a go

section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or any other

dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store bought.She drinks

water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.

Hey try this one.....

http://vegweb.com/veginfo/

I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit of dairy info

in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth seeing away

for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important thing(besides

bm ofcourse)

Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative without

casin(sp) in it!

That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....

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: I tried emailing you at hotmail - I'm reading off of the

archives which blocks out addresses - all i see is xtina@h - which I

thought was probably hotmail... could you email me and let me know so

I can send you what i wrote? Mine is noshots4me @ hotmail.com Thanks!

> Okay, Sorry this isnt regarding vaccines first off. My baby is 13

mos. He is still breastfed but I know the time is coming where he

will drink other fluids (other than water). I have read every now

and again about milk not being good. Could I have links to sites

where milk is tooted as bad for you please?? Im starting to research

this so that I can make a decision. My email address is xtina@h...

if you

> want to contact me. Thanks so much.

> and

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milkOkay, Sorry this isnt regarding vaccines first off. My baby is 13 mos. He is still breastfed but I know the time is coming where he will drink other fluids (other than water). I have read every now and again about milk not being good. Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you please?? Im starting to research this so that I can make a decision. My email address is xtina@... if youwant to contact me. Thanks so much. and

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In a message dated 6/26/00 7:28:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snakken@...

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<< What is " bm " ?

>

That wonderful breastmilk! >>

well you can bet it isn't bowel movement,which is a term we used often at

the nursing home as we had to chart everyones poopies for the day,lol don't

miss that!

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In a message dated 6/26/00 7:18:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

dasweeney@... writes:

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bm = bowel movement

>>

ha ha.Now I have hear of drinking urine for certain ailments/health in

general,but not bm.LOL I know I still think bowel movement when I write

bm,but sometimes I am just to lazy to type out breast milk.

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:44:45 -0400 <xtina@...> writes:

> Okay, Sorry this isnt regarding vaccines first off. My baby is 13

> mos. He is still breastfed but I know the time is coming where he

> will drink other fluids (other than water). I have read every now

> and again about milk not being good. Could I have links to sites

> where milk is tooted as bad for you please?? Im starting to research

> this so that I can make a decision. My email address is

> xtina@... if you

> want to contact me. Thanks so much.

> and

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bm = bowel movement

Re: milk

>

>

> > In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> xtina@...

> > writes:

> >

> > << Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you

> please??

> > >>

> > www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of vegan

> sites

> > will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil Nutrition had a

go

> > section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or any other

> > dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store bought.She drinks

> > water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.

> > Hey try this one.....

> > http://vegweb.com/veginfo/

> >

> > I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit of dairy

> info

> > in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth seeing away

> > for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important

> thing(besides

> > bm ofcourse)

> > Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative without

> > casin(sp) in it!

> > That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....

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bm is also breastmilk when talking about nursing

> bm = bowel movement

>

>

> Re: milk

> >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > xtina@h...

> > > writes:

> > >

> > > << Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for

you

> > please??

> > > >>

> > > www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of

vegan

> > sites

> > > will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil

Nutrition had a

> go

> > > section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or

any other

> > > dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store

bought.She drinks

> > > water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.

> > > Hey try this one.....

> > > http://vegweb.com/veginfo/

> > >

> > > I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit

of dairy

> > info

> > > in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth

seeing away

> > > for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important

> > thing(besides

> > > bm ofcourse)

> > > Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative

without

> > > casin(sp) in it!

> > > That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....

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What is " bm " ?

Re: milk

> In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

xtina@...

> writes:

>

> << Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you

please??

> >>

> www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of vegan

sites

> will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil Nutrition had a go

> section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or any other

> dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store bought.She drinks

> water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.

> Hey try this one.....

> http://vegweb.com/veginfo/

>

> I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit of dairy

info

> in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth seeing away

> for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important

thing(besides

> bm ofcourse)

> Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative without

> casin(sp) in it!

> That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws.

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LOL!

I think in the previous post bm meant breastmilk. I certainly hope she's not drinking "bowel movements." LOL!

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Re: milk>>> > In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,> xtina@...> > writes:> >> > << Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you> please??> > >>> > www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of vegan> sites> > will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil Nutrition had ago> > section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or any other> > dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store bought.She drinks> > water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.> > Hey try this one.....> > http://vegweb.com/veginfo/> >> > I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit of dairy> info> > in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth seeing away> > for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important> thing(besides> > bm ofcourse)> > Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative without> > casin(sp) in it!> > That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws.> > 1/4634/10/_/489317/_/962052394/> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> Buy Long Distance with your GROUP and SAVE!!!> 1/4123/10/_/489317/_/962071445/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>>>

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At 10:13 PM 06/26/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>What is " bm " ?

>

That wonderful breastmilk!

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At 10:05 PM 06/26/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>bm = bowel movement

>

Not in the context of that email ;-) Breastmilk!

Sheri

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> Re: milk

>>

>>

>> > In a message dated 6/26/00 12:47:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>> xtina@...

>> > writes:

>> >

>> > << Could I have links to sites where milk is tooted as bad for you

>> please??

>> > >>

>> > www.notmilk.com is the only one I can think of offhand.Alot of vegan

>> sites

>> > will also have info.Also the book by Sears called Famil Nutrition had a

>go

>> > section on milk.Nimet is 17mo and not one drop of cows milk or any other

>> > dairy product.I also don't do juices,atleast not store bought.She drinks

>> > water,bm,and various nut/grain juices.

>> > Hey try this one.....

>> > http://vegweb.com/veginfo/

>> >

>> > I got a free veggie starter kit from somewhere that have a bit of dairy

>> info

>> > in it.If I find the sight again I will send it to you.Worth seeing away

>> > for.Life w/o dairy is no big deal.Water is the most important

>> thing(besides

>> > bm ofcourse)

>> > Now the problem start with trying to find a cheese alternative without

>> > casin(sp) in it!

>> > That is a cow product also used as a glue,so imagine.....

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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In a message dated 6/26/00 7:06:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< bm = bowel movement >>

Could also equal 'breast milk'. Depends on the context!!

Teri

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who ever has info about cow milk, could you post it for the whole group?

Since i had the girls i am seriously considering going organic with my own

goat and chickens.

Christin

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I've also seen it used for " breast milk " . I know

sometimes it is a little confusing, but if it sounds

funny/odd, it's the other meaning. :)

--- Nittany Lion <dasweeney@...> wrote:

> bm = bowel movement

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check out www.nomilk.com... lots of information

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:16:54 EDT sukaryan@... writes:

> who ever has info about cow milk, could you post it for the whole

> group?

> Since i had the girls i am seriously considering going organic with

> my own

> goat and chickens.

> Christin

>

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In a message dated 10/8/00 4:35:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, guzmo2@... writes:

<< We've been off milk for two years and my seasonal sinus infections have

all

but disappeared. The kids accept Silk and Soy Dream readily enough for their

cereal and because it's not as good tasting to them, my cold cereal budget

has been helped--it's such expensive food for what you get. Hang in there.

Your tastebuds will shift to the healthier foods soon. >>

Yall please change the subject lines OK :)

When I gave up dairy my chronic candida problems disappeared overnight

almost. dairy and peanut butter that is.

Tabitha

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Tabitha--I'm off pb too! Maybe the combo was deadly--I'm suspicious of

" comfort foods " and peanut butter on white bread with milk was a surefire way

to muddle my mind into a temporary truce with whatever was scaring or

upsetting me. Yikes.

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Sticking my 2 cents in too... I believe I read

somewhere that if a child has a milk allergy, there is

also a good chance they will have an Orange Juice

allergy too. Allergies to OJ can have similar

symptoms as a milk allergy.

Judi

--- Sara Greenberg <List@...> wrote:

>

> Milk allergy and lactose intolerance is different.

> Usually a milk allergy

> causes a rash, cough, runny nose, and/or congestion.

> Lactose intolerance

> causes vomiting, stomach aches, and gas. Usually

> kids with a milk allergy

> can tolerate more processed dairy products ... such

> as yogurt, cheeses, and

> sometimes ice cream!

>

> And you're not being rude by budding in! That is the

> purpose of us posting

> this to the list and not personally to each

> other.... so other list members

> can obtain the info if they ever need it in the

> future and so that everyone

> can put in their 2 cents!

>

> Cheers!

> Sara

>

> --On Thursday, February 28, 2002, 1:42 PM +0000

> sahmomof8@... wrote:

>

> > --I hope you don't think I'm being rude,

> just intruding on your

> > posts, but something you just said struck me. You

> said your daughter is

> > allergic to milk, but eats a lot of yogurt and

> " seems fine " . My daughter

> > was lactose intolerant as a baby and small child

> (seems to have gotten a

> > bit better now that she's 15). Maybe " lactose

> intolerant " and " milk

> > allergy " aren't the same thing either. But I just

> remember that when she

> > was younger, she would occasionally be fed

> something with milk in it, and

> > seem to be fine at the time. It was from 1-24

> hours later that she would

> > suddenly " spit up " or vomit, seemingly out of

> nowhere. But it *always*

> > coincided with milk ingestion within that time

> frame! And it never was a

> > glass of milk, just an item made with any dairy

> products. Just something

> > to consider. Marilyn

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> I believe I read

> somewhere that if a child has a milk allergy, there is

> also a good chance they will have an Orange Juice

> allergy too.

I didn't know that! Learn something new everday! Also, if you are taking

seldane (do they still Rx this med anyway???) you should never drink OJ or

any other acidic drink! OJ is trouble! I much rather have Apple Juice! Or

the new cranberry juice (white cranberry)... that stuff is yummy!

Cheers!

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In a message dated 3/7/2002 11:37:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cinnamonbelle@... writes:

<< I'm hemming and hawing on the milk is bad for Os issue, myself.

CB >>

Stop all dairy for a month and then drink a big glass of milk. You might be

heaving but you won't be hemming and hawing.

Max

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Sharon wrote:

>>>Only Bs can digest milk protein.

>Thanks . So it isn't lectins, it digesting milk protein.

Then Steve wrote:

>Also as I understand it increases production of mucus.

A couple of things puzzling here - one, if you talk to the raw food folks,

raw milk (unpasteurized, not the easiest to get) has the enzymes necessary

to digest itself. And there's another take on mucus-building too. It is what

helps detox, by some theories - and encapsulates the bad stuff running

around in our systems.

I'm hemming and hawing on the milk is bad for Os issue, myself.

CB

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