Coconut Flour is Not Okay - Bee made a mistake!

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Yesterday I made a big mistake when I approved of coconut flour. I apologize.

In order to do a correct comparison to foods on my foods list I should have

taken the time to calculate how many net carb grams are in 1 cup.

16 tablespoons = 1 cup. 2 tbsp. = 8g, 1 tbsp. = 4g (net carb grams after

subtracting fibers).

4g X 16 tbsp. = 64g in 1 cup of coconut flour.

You can all help me by checking my calculations.

Examples of foods on my food list (all are cooked less fibers):

-tomatoes = 7.2g

-broccoli = 7.3g

-onions = 18.4g

-rutabaga = 11.9g

-spaghetti squash = 7.9g

Therefore, coconut Flour will not be added to my foods list.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the correction.  I am sad to hear that we will not be able to use

coconut flour but I do understand the reason. (

Thanks again,

Margaret

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Coconut Flour is Not Okay - Bee made a mistake!

Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 12:34 PM

 

Hi everyone,

Yesterday I made a big mistake when I approved of coconut flour. I apologize.

In order to do a correct comparison to foods on my foods list I should have

taken the time to calculate how many net carb grams are in 1 cup.

16 tablespoons = 1 cup. 2 tbsp. = 8g, 1 tbsp. = 4g (net carb grams after

subtracting fibers).

4g X 16 tbsp. = 64g in 1 cup of coconut flour.

You can all help me by checking my calculations.

Examples of foods on my food list (all are cooked less fibers):

-tomatoes = 7.2g

-broccoli = 7.3g

-onions = 18.4g

-rutabaga = 11.9g

-spaghetti squash = 7.9g

Therefore, coconut Flour will not be added to my foods list.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, Bee for clearing this up! I should've known it was too

good to be true--haha! Sorry to have caused such confusion...so thankful

you have the knowledge to set us all straight in order to help us move

toward ultimate healing and restoration. Thank you again!

Amy

[Guest guest]

Hey , Bee

My coconut flour by Coconut Secret (Raw Coconut Flour made from Unheated

Coconut, 40% fiber) has 8g of carbs from which 5g are fiber. Sugars 1g. Serving

is 2TBS( 14g). According to my calculations, 1 TBS of my coconut flour has only

1.5g of net carbs. What's wrong with that? Does coconut flour in general

aggravate Candida??

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> my package of Coconut Flour from Wilderness Family natural says

>

> Serving 50 g = 5 TBS has

> 30 g of Carbs

> of which 27 g are fibre

> 1 g sugar

>

> When I make 6 muffins, I use 4 eggs and 1/3 cup coconut flour, so

> each muffin gets 1 TBS of coconut flour. That is 10g carbs - 5 g

> fiber = 5 g net carbs.

> If baked with stevia and lots of fat, I don't think this is very high

> carb.

>

> One would never consume a whole cup of coconut flour at any given time.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

> WAPF Toronto

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

my package of Coconut Flour from Wilderness Family natural says

Serving 50 g = 5 TBS has

30 g of Carbs

of which 27 g are fibre

1 g sugar

When I make 6 muffins, I use 4 eggs and 1/3 cup coconut flour, so

each muffin gets 1 TBS of coconut flour. That is 10g carbs - 5 g

fiber = 5 g net carbs.

If baked with stevia and lots of fat, I don't think this is very high

carb.

One would never consume a whole cup of coconut flour at any given time.

Best regards,

WAPF Toronto

On 6-Apr-11, at 5:34 AM, Bee wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Yesterday I made a big mistake when I approved of coconut flour. I

> apologize.

>

> In order to do a correct comparison to foods on my foods list I

> should have taken the time to calculate how many net carb grams are

> in 1 cup.

>

> 16 tablespoons = 1 cup. 2 tbsp. = 8g, 1 tbsp. = 4g (net carb grams

> after subtracting fibers).

>

> 4g X 16 tbsp. = 64g in 1 cup of coconut flour.

>

> You can all help me by checking my calculations.

>

> Examples of foods on my food list (all are cooked less fibers):

> -tomatoes = 7.2g

> -broccoli = 7.3g

> -onions = 18.4g

> -rutabaga = 11.9g

> -spaghetti squash = 7.9g

>

> Therefore, coconut Flour will not be added to my foods list.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bee - I think the main concern people are having with your ruling, is that most

would not consume a cup of coconut flour at a time as we would a cup of

broccoli, for instance.

Most recipes call for 1/4 c coconut flour or 2 Tbsp, for instance (to several

eggs, usually 4 eggs to a 1/4 c CF). If a recipe called for a cup of coconut

flour, one would not (should not) eat the 'whole thing'.

Perhaps there can be an allowance of 'XX' amount of coconut flour?

>

> Hi everyone,

>

>

> In order to do a correct comparison to foods on my foods list I should have

taken the time to calculate how many net carb grams are in 1 cup.

[Guest guest]

My husband recently had a bad reaction when I " dusted " coconut flour on zucchini

to fry in CO(I am switching him over slowly to join me on Bee's diet due to his

diabetes). It took two days of cramping and gas before his uncomfortable

symptoms finally subsided.

I'm concerned that the fibers aren't cooked, or broken down enough for many of

us with compromised digestion. Coconut remains deceptively low carb because it

is HIGH fiber. In addition, the fiber and remaining carbs could induce food

cravings such as explained by in Message #104287,..She wrote, " Coconut

flour kept my addiction to carbs in place and it wasn't until I errupted with

psoriasis again and a tanking thyroid that I was finally READY to face the truth

and embrace it " .

I don't believe coconut flour should be placed on the list of healthy foods,

even in moderation. I believe the foods on this list would be those that any

reaction from them would be considered " healing/detoxifying " . Symptoms while

ingesting coconut flour, would not necessarily indicate an upward progression

towards health, but merely an additional toxic burden to the body.

Nina

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> >

> > In order to do a correct comparison to foods on my foods list I should have

taken the time to calculate how many net carb grams are in 1 cup.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> my package of Coconut Flour from Wilderness Family natural says

>

> Serving 50 g = 5 TBS has

> 30 g of Carbs

> of which 27 g are fibre

> 1 g sugar

>

> When I make 6 muffins, I use 4 eggs and 1/3 cup coconut flour, so

> each muffin gets 1 TBS of coconut flour. That is 10g carbs - 5 g

> fiber = 5 g net carbs.

> If baked with stevia and lots of fat, I don't think this is very high

> carb.

>

> One would never consume a whole cup of coconut flour at any given time.

+++Hi ,

I used 1 cup since all of my carb calculations are a 1 cup size. But if you

prefer to compare carbs by the tablespoon, that's okay with me.

All carbs on my food list, except spices and stevia, contain less than 1.2g net

carbs per tablespoon. Spices and stevia are only used in small amounts.

Cinnamon = 1.7g per tbsp., Nutmeg = 2.0g per tbsp.

So far I've gotten reports on 4 brands of coconut flour, with net grams per

tablespoon as follows (I did not re-check any calculations, other than Tropical

Traditions):

-Tropical Traditions = 4g

-Wilderness Family Naturals = 5g

-Rob's Red Mill = 2g

-Coconut Secret= 1.5g

You might also be interested in the 3 members experiences when they consumed

coconut flour:

Message #104321, April 6, 2011, from Joanne

I tried coconut flour a while ago and it sent me into a massive fibro flare. My

husband and children eat it but they are far more healthier than I am.

I have gained a lot of recovery with your program but even now I would not

consider myself healthy enough to eat anything made from coconut flour. As time

has gone by I have come to terms with the fact that I may never be able to eat

any cakes, biscuits of any kind. My family do, but me, I enjoy all the other

foods on your diet and it's not just that, feeling better in myself feels much

better than the way any stodgy food tastes

Message #104287, April 5, 2011, from

I am in no way trying to tell you your wrong but just wanted to give you my

personal story with coconut flour. It is from coconut meat so it is sugary and

high in fiber which I know kept my addiction to grains and sugar pretty high.

It is one of those things I had to live and learn before I could fully adhere to

your diet.

A lot of us who have gone gluten-free at some point in our many attempts to get

healthy take that to such a level that we are consuming gobs of gluten-free

grains and continuing to spiral downward! I looked for every excuse to eat rice,

corn, and eventually coconut flour because I just had to have it (or so I

thought :-).

Coconut flour kept my addiction to carbs in place and it wasn't until I erupted

with psoriasis again and a tanking thyroid that I was finally READY to face the

truth and embrace it. Carbs do not help in this journey if they taste sweet or

even remind you of grains. I remembered the diet no-no's include coconut meat

and that is precisely what coconut flour is. Perhaps the carbs are low enough

that it doesn't matter but it sure tastes sweet! :-)

Message #104438, April 6, 2011, from Nina

My husband recently had a bad reaction when I " dusted " coconut flour on zucchini

to fry in CO (I am switching him over slowly to join me on Bee's diet due to his

diabetes). It took two days of cramping and gas before his uncomfortable

symptoms finally subsided.

I'm concerned that the fibers aren't cooked, or broken down enough for many of

us with compromised digestion. Coconut remains deceptively low carb because it

is HIGH fiber. In addition, the fiber and remaining carbs could induce food

cravings such as explained by in Message #104287. . She wrote, " Coconut

flour kept my addiction to carbs in place and it wasn't until I erupted with

psoriasis again and a tanking thyroid that I was finally READY to face the truth

and embrace it. "

I don't believe coconut flour should be placed on the list of healthy foods,

even in moderation. I believe the foods on this list would be those that any

reaction from them would be considered healing/ detoxifying " . Symptoms while

ingesting coconut flour, would not necessarily indicate an upward progression

towards health, but merely an additional toxic burden to the body.

If you consume coconut flour it is considered cheating on my program.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you so much, Bee for clearing this up! I should've known it was too

good to be true--haha! Sorry to have caused such confusion...so thankful you

have the knowledge to set us all straight in order to help us move toward

ultimate healing and restoration. Thank you again!

+++Hi Amy,

You are welcome, again! lol! Every time I second-guess myself, particularly

under pressure, it throws a kink in the works. I was also way behind doing my

laundry, and my oldest daughter is visiting this weekend since she is in the

area on a business trip.

By the way, I hope to be out-of-commission most of this weekend. I work 7 days

a week and rarely take a day off, so I'm looking forward to it. My 2 daughters

and I are having a sleep-over Friday night, and I'll be driving my daughter back

to her hotel Sunday (2.5 hours each way).

So hopefully you and other knowledgeable members and the moderators can handle

the group. : )

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey , Bee

> My coconut flour by Coconut Secret (Raw Coconut Flour made from Unheated

Coconut, 40% fiber) has 8g of carbs from which 5g are fiber. Sugars 1g. Serving

is 2TBS( 14g). According to my calculations, 1 TBS of my coconut flour has only

1.5g of net carbs. What's wrong with that? Does coconut flour in general

aggravate Candida??

+++Hi there. Is your name Gilliath?

All carbs (all plant foods), including vegetables, spices, herbs, coconut flour,

etc. feed candida, and the higher the net carb count of each kind of food the

more it feeds candida. However, it is impractical and unnecessary to eliminate

all carbs in order to get healthy, as proved by many people on my program.

All carbs on my food list, except spices and stevia, contain less than 1.2g net

carbs per tablespoon. Spices and stevia are only used in small amounts.

Cinnamon = 1.7g per tbsp., Nutmeg = 2.0g per tbsp.

Now that I've translated carbs by using tablespoons I realize there are some

foods on my list I should delete, so I will be re-calculating and changing my

list over the next couple of weeks.

If you consume coconut flour it is considered cheating on my program.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee - I think the main concern people are having with your ruling, is that

most would not consume a cup of coconut flour at a time as we would a cup of

broccoli, for instance.

>

> Most recipes call for 1/4 c coconut flour or 2 Tbsp, for instance (to several

eggs, usually 4 eggs to a 1/4 c CF). If a recipe called for a cup of coconut

flour, one would not (should not) eat the 'whole thing'.

>

> Perhaps there can be an allowance of 'XX' amount of coconut flour?

+++Hi ,

I switched over to calculating net carbs by the tablespoon instead of by 1 cup -

see the message I posted this morning to , which included 3 members'

getting adverse reactions to it, including one man who reacted to a dusting of

it.

It reminds me of when I was on my candida program and licked the peanut butter

off the knife I used to make my daughter's sandwich. It debilitated me for at

least 24 hours, with aching all over, head spinning, etc. Then I also got an

instant migraine headache if I had a crumb of wheat in my mouth. However, I

didn't get such bad reactions when I craved something sweet and ate a cat treat.

I didn't know it was a cat treat my daughter bought. lol!

This program is not about consuming XX amount of high carb foods, since each

" kind of carb " must be low in net carb grams. If you do that you could have XX

amount of any foods not listed. Of course all carbs must be included in the

total carb gram count for the day too.

If anyone insists on having coconut flour they are cheating.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee wrote:

> This program is not about consuming XX amount of high carb foods, since each

" kind of carb " must be low in net carb grams. If you do that you could have XX

amount of any foods not listed. Of course all carbs must be included in the

total carb gram count for the day too.

*** Of course; makes sense.

>

> If anyone insists on having coconut flour they are cheating.

*** And we are cheating not you, but ourselves....

[Guest guest]

-- In , " nina.gonzales46 " <nina.gonzales46@...>

wrote:

>

> My husband recently had a bad reaction when I " dusted " coconut flour on

zucchini to fry in CO(I am switching him over slowly to join me on Bee's diet

due to his diabetes). It took two days of cramping and gas before his

uncomfortable symptoms finally subsided.

>

> I'm concerned that the fibers aren't cooked, or broken down enough for many of

us with compromised digestion. Coconut remains deceptively low carb because it

is HIGH fiber. In addition, the fiber and remaining carbs could induce food

cravings such as explained by in Message #104287,..She wrote, " Coconut

flour kept my addiction to carbs in place and it wasn't until I errupted with

psoriasis again and a tanking thyroid that I was finally READY to face the truth

and embrace it " .

>

> I don't believe coconut flour should be placed on the list of healthy foods,

even in moderation. I believe the foods on this list would be those that any

reaction from them would be considered " healing/detoxifying " . Symptoms while

ingesting coconut flour, would not necessarily indicate an upward progression

towards health, but merely an additional toxic burden to the body.

+++Hi Nina,

Thanks for telling us about your husband's reactions to coconut flour.

I am not adding coconut flour to my healthy foods lists.

All the best, Bee