Supplements

[Guest guest]

How depressing. Perhaps I should just stop eating and drinking

altogether ... hmmmm. Die of starvaton, or die from eating, ....

what a decision to make

[Guest guest]

Speaking of depression, that's what finally made me make the change. Suicidal

depression. I realized that the non-foods I was eating were the cause of me

wanting to die all the time. Now I'm working on managing and healing my

depression with a healthier diet. And it's nowhere near as hard as I thought it

would be, as long as I don't go radical all at once. I've just gone back to

eating food that's actually food, rather than chemicals. There is so much

wonderful food out there! Even ten years ago, it was WAY harder to find healthy

organic ingredients...now organic stuff is EVERYWHERE. And what you can't get

at your local store is as easy as a trip on the Internet. As is the TRUTH about

our food, if you make it a point to look for it.

As for supplements, I don't think they're a long-term answer, but a short-term

treatment. My own personal view on it as a healer is that supplements can help

repair the damage the non-foods and poisons have done to us while we switch to a

live-foods diet. Once we've done the major repairs, I believe we can wean off

the supplements and our bodies will be able to process the nutrients from our

food once again, like Source intended. :-)

Nila

shrnace <shrnace@...> wrote: How

depressing. Perhaps I should just stop eating and drinking

altogether ... hmmmm. Die of starvaton, or die from eating, ....

what a decision to make

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[Guest guest]

I cant speak more highly of fish oil for depression than any other

thing I take. It also gives you a mental quietness that nothing else

does. When Im of it for a few days,I really notice the differance. Its

a relief to get back on it.

.

[Guest guest]

Hey Helen

Great post I know how you feel we did the whole only rice thing in the UK

for several years when our son was young…I know we are blessed now as its

only costs us $10 per day (500 baht) to get the most incredible fresh

foods…it’s a good job many people are now becoming more self empowered…guess

the big Pharmas don’t want that either…keep well wishing you a joyous day

Deborah

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From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of helen/zhebee

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:23 AM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Re: Supplements

Hi all

I, too, would be dead if it were not for taking

supplements for almost 30 years. I think back

how people used to say, " But you get all the

nutrients you need from a healthy diet " . My

answer was, " Where do we find that healthy diet? "

Another thing about the " healthy diet " is that

some of have to work at a full time job and

take care of a home and children. Time does

not allow for doing all the right things. I wish

it had been so.

I think now, that supplements may have helped

those of us who took them more than we know.

I am not a diabetic but I was a heavy smoker for

over 30 years. Other smokers were dropping

dead around me but I am still here. I quit 9 years

ago but quitting at that late stage does not keep

you from getting cancer, etc. It is keeping your

body in an alkaline state that can prevent cancer

and other diseases. We can discuss that in

another thread, if desired.

Now as I look back, I believe that many of the

supplements I took helped to alkalize my body. Raw

fruits and vegetables do this, too, of course, and

let us not forget Coconut Oil which gets rid of

toxins and fungus.

While I definitely agree that getting your nutrients

from raw fruit and vegetables is the best way, it is

not always possible. I was so poor at one stage

of my life, I ate mostly macaroni every day. I found

I could eat for 20¢ a day. But I knew it was not

enough so I supplemented with a cheap multi vitamin/

mineral. This went on for a number of years. Thank

God, that time is now past and I hardly ever eat

pasta.

We are warned by those in-the-know and those not in-

the-know not to take too much Vitamin C, for example.

I have been taking 3000 mg of Vitamin C every single

day for about 30 years. If I don't take it, I get sick

and miserable.

It was in the 80's or so that I began getting an unusual

number of headaches and I couldn't figure out why. Well

thank God for those sinus headache commercials, I began

to wonder if that was what my problem was but also

thinking that I didn't feel stuffed up or anything. I thought

I would try taking some Vitamin C instead of a pain killer.

I took about 2000 mgs all at once and in 20 minutes my

headache was gone. I experimented and found eventually

that my ideal dosage needed to be 3000 mg per day and

that for best results, I needed to take it all at once. I

knew that it would be good to take another dose in the

day but it was more than I could afford and my dosage

seemed to be working. I rarely miss a day and when I

do, I begin having sinus problems. Otherwise, I don't

even know I have sinuses. And I never have a cold. I

believe it is because my sinuses are being kept clear with

the Vitamin C. I have a theory about why we get colds.

If anyone wants to hear that, I will put it in another

email.

There's a lot more could be said for supplements but

this email is long enough.

Just one last comment....

I am convinced that the adverse news we are

hearing lately about supplements being bad for us

is a ploy of the drug companies. They don't want us

to be taking them because they know they work ..thus

hurting their bottom line. They also want to bring in

the CODEX guidelines and they are trying to get us

mentally ready for that. No, the drug companies don't

want us to die; they just want us to be sick as long as

possible.

Helen

> Looks like isolated nutrients, synthetically made. Cheap? You get

> what you pay for -- full of fillers. What color is it? Artificial

> colors? Where do they get the ingredients for it? What is the

> capsule made of, veggie or horses hooves? Is there coal tar in the

> capsule? Or other preservatives? Is there sugar in it?

>

> Your body is not designed to digest isolated nutrients, but rather to

> extract them from real food. Eat food.

>

> Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Deborah.  The drug companies must really hate

computers and the internet, too.

 

> Looks like isolated nutrients, synthetically made. Cheap? You get

> what you pay for -- full of fillers. What color is it? Artificial

> colors? Where do they get the ingredients for it? What is the

> capsule made of, veggie or horses hooves? Is there coal tar in the

> capsule? Or other preservatives? Is there sugar in it?

>

> Your body is not designed to digest isolated nutrients, but rather to

> extract them from real food. Eat food.

>

> Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen,

Do you use vitamin C from China, and/or made from corn? Because it's hard to

find any that isn't either or both.

Also, do you think that the drug companies are just telling us all this stuff

about vitamin C being bad from China so we won't use

it? Maybe all the hype isn't as bad as they say?

Thanks,

Sanr

>We are warned by those in-the-know and those not in-

the-know not to take too much Vitamin C, for example.

I have been taking 3000 mg of Vitamin C every single

day for about 30 years. If I don't take it, I get sick

and miserable.

>I am convinced that the adverse news we are

hearing lately about supplements being bad for us

is a ploy of the drug companies.

Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee.

- Can I take this product

 http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Vitamin-D-400-IU-200-Tablets/1212?at=0 

with  NOW Foods Shark Liver Oil Vitamin A. instead  Natural Factors Halibut

Liver Oil ?

- Can I take the niacin out of meals to avoid getting a  flush while I am

working?

- And about Vit C, can I take more than 4000 mg/day for a long time?

 

Thank you

Raquel

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee.

> - Can I take this product

>  http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Vitamin-D-400-IU-200-Tablets/1212?at=0 

> with  NOW Foods Shark Liver Oil Vitamin A. instead  Natural Factors Halibut

> Liver Oil ?

> - Can I take the niacin out of meals to avoid getting a  flush while I am

> working?

> - And about Vit C, can I take more than 4000 mg/day for a long time?

>

+++Hi Raquel,

Source Naturals doesn't say it is from a fish " liver " oil so I wouldn't take it.

Yes, you can take niacin on an empty stomach.

You should only take higher doses of vitamin C for short-periods of time, since

taking higher doses long periods of time throws off balances of other nutrients.

Why do you want to take it a long time?

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kathy,

 

Sorry to hear of your dilemma.  GABA won't help if you have tight junction

permeability or blood-brain barrier leaking.  GABA is what some doctors

actually use to see if you have BBB leaking.  If you do have it, you get very

agitated instead of the calm, mellowed out feeling you are supposed to have with

GABA.  [sometimes, tho, you first get the calm mellow feeling and then after

another dose get the bad agitated, angry feelings.]  This is perhaps a good

way, however, to assess whether a leaky BBB and tight junctions have anything to

do with your ES!  You would have good evidence if you took the GABA after being

badly emf-ed.

 

Have you tried D3 from an all natural source?  Carlson's Labs has a D3 made

from Fish oils.  It is pretty pricey, but you only take it every other day and

so it lasts a long time. 

 

B12 is something which might help you.  Get a sublingual pill, which bypasses

the gut, and the best quality you can find.  I use methylcobalamin.  There are

different types.  B12 helps the nervous system.

 

Possibly a hydrogen supplement would help.

 

You mentioned not doing well on calcium, and I didn't either until I took

calcium AEP.  I personally always take it with pantethine.  Emfs can cause

calcium efflux from where it should be in the brain.  Calcium AEP is the type

calcium the brain uses.  Again, this would pertain to you only if you know your

BBB is leaking, and not necessarily pertain, if it is not. 

 

If you have a good doctor who you can go to, also, a calcium channel

blocker might be helpful, if you know for sure you are having calcium efflux. 

I take the natural calcium channel blockers manganese and taurine once in a

while (I do not consider these safe for me to take on a daily basis, but then, I

have no need for doing that anyway, since I am now rarely having ES

symptoms).  [if you need to try these, however, do ask me for more info,

because manganese can act as a toxic metal.  I am only here on weekends, tho,

so expect to wait a few days before hearing from me.  (Sorry!)]  The way this

works, from my understanding, if you have calcium efflux is:  the tight

junction is opened by emfs, then this allows calcium migration to occur.  The

tight junction cannot sometimes close properly, so sometimes the efflux doesn't

stop till a calcium channel blocker is taken.  If you take a calcium channel

blocker, it will block the calcium from

leaking, often, in the first place.  (At least that is how it is with the

manganese and taurine.)  However, know that many of us have conflicting medical

needs for which calcium channel blockers are not a good therapy.  (If it were

that easy, we could all go running to our docs for calcium channel blockers. 

  )  You may share this with your doctor and if she is a very good doc, she

will check it out herself and may have even better ideas. 

 

As to shielding.....  There are a number of good options for windows: aluminum

or steel screens for windows (I forget the size mesh, but it has to be small and

you have to cover the windows including the window frames); there are anti-emf

window films; there are anti-emf fabrics which can be made into curtain panels

(I velcro mine to a painted lath board on the wall at the ceiling--glue the lath

board up; my drapes are also ceiling height); I also use huge plants--fan palms,

other palms, large ficus, scheffalera(?sp?); and I have used a large screen made

from 3 doors hinged together and covered on one side with heavy aluminum foil,

which is movable and portable.  Outside trees are even better shields,

especially thick evergreens, but placement can be a challenge and it takes at

least 3 years before they are large enough.  [However, as a home owner, I

would like getting as many trees in  place to help with neighboring smart

meters, as possible!]

 

On shielding with screen, fabric, foil....  It seems that if you double fabric

or screen on itself, it will then negate shielding and allow emfs thru, so for

edging and seams, you must make a 3 layer seam.  Odd thicknesses block emfs,

even thicknesses let emfs pass thru.  Very hard to grasp, I know from

experience.  lol 

 

Also, if there are aberrant, digital, or wireless frequencies inside your house,

they will bounce off of some of these fixes and cause you problems from

within.  You can try heavy aluminum foil taped to the wall to see how it works

temporarily until you get something better in place.  Remember there might be

also metal in the wall or nails in studding that could cause problems. 

 

Hope some of this is helpful; it sounds like you truly need something fast,

Bless you,

Diane

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Supplements

Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 6:42 PM

 

I tried some cod liver oil must be low in D, it's helping lesson the

nerve pain. . I read Amy Yasko, refers to healing nerves.  Have any

tried GABA?

I react to  D3 for some reason.

She believes

glutamate is the bullet & calcium the gun.  We can get ammonia from

too much meat. Have to balance w more veggies. Calcium can excite the

nerves. Anybody read Blaylock's peice on it?

http://www.whale.to/a/sudden_cardiac_death.html

I know many take calcium, but it causes more pain for me. I was taking the wrong

kind though. She believes to keep your calcium

levels in the low range of normal. It's hard w what emf's do to it. But maybe

being low in cal caused my E Sens?

Kathy