Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hi Angie I only use stevia as a sweetner and buy it off ebay in powder form it comes from canada, I use it from: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STEVIA-SUPREME-SPOONABLE-100g-PREMIUM-QUALITY-O-CALS_W0QQitemZ110222628361QQihZ001QQcategoryZ31818QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I actually buy the bigger size and it last ages. Hope this helps CarolineAngie <poppetbrown@...> wrote: Has anyone tried Stevia or managed to get hold of any in the fight against Candida? . Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 That's very useful to know. Luv Bella > > Hi Angie > > I only use stevia as a sweetner and buy it off ebay in powder form it comes from canada, I use it from: > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STEVIA-SUPREME-SPOONABLE-100g-PREMIUM- QUALITY-O- CALS_W0QQitemZ110222628361QQihZ001QQcategoryZ31818QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Xylitol or stuff like Sorbitol can give you the runs and can be most unpleasant. Lilian Stevia is very expensive as you have to purchase it from outside of the UK and it is in fact illegal in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 This is what I have read about Xylitol, so it looks as if it should be the sweetener of choice. I will be looking in Tescos for it. Xylitol has 40 per cent fewer calories and 75 per cent fewer carbohydrates than sugar and is slowly absorbed and metabolised, resulting in very negligible changes in insulin. About one-third of the xylitol that is consumed is absorbed in the liver. The other two-thirds travels to the intestinal tract where it is broken down by gut bacteria into short-chain fatty acids. Xylitol looks, feels and tastes exactly like sugar and leaves no unpleasant aftertaste. It is available in many forms. In its crystalline form, it can replace sugar in cooking, baking or as a sweetener for beverages. It is also included as an ingredient in chewing gum, mints and nasal spray. Lilian I have never had the runs from Xylitol, sorbitol on the other hand is definitely one of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 xylitol give me the runs lillian. :-( wont go near it lucky i am not diabetic Carol X Re: Re: Stevia This is what I have read about Xylitol, so it looks as if it should be the sweetener of choice. I will be looking in Tescos for it. Xylitol has 40 per cent fewer calories and 75 per cent fewer carbohydrates than sugar and is slowly absorbed and metabolised, resulting in very negligible changes in insulin. About one-third of the xylitol that is consumed is absorbed in the liver. The other two-thirds travels to the intestinal tract where it is broken down by gut bacteria into short-chain fatty acids. Xylitol looks, feels and tastes exactly like sugar and leaves no unpleasant aftertaste. It is available in many forms. In its crystalline form, it can replace sugar in cooking, baking or as a sweetener for beverages. It is also included as an ingredient in chewing gum, mints and nasal spray. Lilian I have never had the runs from Xylitol, sorbitol on the other hand is definitely one of those things. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Wikipedia confirrms Xylitol can have a mild laxitive effect. I decided to try Stevia mainly because it is zero calories and zero carbohydrate and is Candida friendly. As I'm trying to also lose weight it seemed the perfect substitute. It's also relatively economic as it works out 88p per kilo equivalent of sugar. If anyone's interested in where I got it, or how I get on with it (I should get my delivery on Wednesday) then feel free to contact me. Barbara On 08/02/2008, Lilian15-googlemail <lilian.swallow@...> wrote: > > This is what I have read about Xylitol, so it looks as if it should be the sweetener of choice. I will be looking in Tescos for it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have a jar of stevia powder in my cupboard, which I bought from the US a few years ago. It is extremely economic because all you need is literally a pinch to sweeten anything. Too much and it has a horrid liquorice taste (and I like liquorice). If you are thinking of making a cake with it, then you have to add a bulk sweetener as well, either sugar or similar to splenda, although not as much as you would without the stevia. It could be that now they add stuff to it so that you can use it by the spoonful and still only get a few grains of stevia. If you can imagine a jar full of sand, and if that sand was stevia, you would use literally three little grains of sand, of the stevia I have, as I might have pure powdered stevia. The jar came with the tiniest spoon you will have ever seen. Lilian Re: Re: Stevia Wikipedia confirrms Xylitol can have a mild laxitive effect.I decided to try Stevia mainly because it is zero calories and zerocarbohydrate and is Candida friendly. As I'm trying to also loseweight it seemed the perfect substitute. It's also relativelyeconomic as it works out 88p per kilo equivalent of sugar.If anyone's interested in where I got it, or how I get on with it (Ishould get my delivery on Wednesday) then feel free to contact me.BarbaraOn 08/02/2008, Lilian15-googlemail <lilian.swallow@...> wrote:>> This is what I have read about Xylitol, so it looks as if it should be the sweetener of choice. I will be looking in Tescos for it.>Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Hi Angie, I got my Stevia in the UK a couple of years ago, in liquid form which was all he sold then, from here http://www.godshaer.co.uk/stevia.php I didn't get on with it very well myself because of having to get the amount right and powder form would have been easier. In the end I couldn't see the point of it because you have to use it with some other kind of sweetner for baking, so it was defeating the object. I see now he's selling it in powder form as well. BW Gillian.>> Has anyone tried Stevia or managed to get hold of any in the fight > against Candida?> Angie xx> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Be careful of Xylitol I have heard it has killed some dogs, not sure how true. I have used some sweets with it in and it gives me serious diarrhea and a very bad tummy. Caroline marianne2406@... wrote: Agave and Xylitol are both recommended for those who are diabetic or have candida . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Can I just add they xylitol can give you diahorrea - it does to me, and also that it is dangerous to give anything to dogs with even the tiniest quantity of it in. Val Agave and Xylitol are both recommended for those who are diabetic or have candida but Agave has the lowest Glycemic index & glycemic load than any sweeter on the market today. You can purchase Agave from Tesco at £2.95 but I buy mine from various Health Food shops and it varies from £1.95 to £3.29 for organic brands. Agave is from the Blue Cactus which is where your tequila comes from. Xylitol is the sucrose from veg and fruit.Luv nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 The stevia I use occasionally is in little sachets. I find 1 sachet is plenty for a litre of lemon drink using 1 lemon. I have 2 different manufacturers I use - Kal & Now. I find the Now brand to be a bit sweeter which I expect means that there is more in each sachet, and it was also about half the price of the other, but this may just be where I bought them from is cheaper. I used iherb.com last to buy this some years ago. Val I didn't get on with it very well myself because of having to get theamount right and powder form would have been easier.Gillian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hello Raquel, KAL Brand Stevia powder is ONLY stevia, it is a white powder, NO additives, I have tried them all, and this is the only I have found to taste wonderful, no bitter aftertaste. It is available many places, here is a link to one place who sells it and you can read about the ingredients, which is ONLY stevia powder. Hope this is helpful. I have gotten mine online and also from my local health food store. http://www.vitacost.com/Kal-Pure-Stevia-Extract-Powder?csrc=GPF-021245104124 Kathleen Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> >>>> > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Thank you, but the point I was trying to make was about too much processing to get any bitter aftertaste out. I've tried different brands but never KAL, even though I've used several of their supplements, I may give it a go anyway, stevia still beats the other choices I'm sure.Oh, I just looked it up and then compared with the place where I get most of my supplements (www.vitaglo.com) and it's cheaper there, $14.94, almost everything is always cheaper at Vitaglo, btw, the only thing is that they're not to fast shipping stuff but it's free shipping with purchases $50 and up and one can save the cart, so what I do is wait until I have enough things. R.> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>From: tanyaavera@bellsout h.net tanyaavera@bellsout h.net>> > >>>>Subject: Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> > >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> > >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> > >>>> > > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> > >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> > >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> > >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 stevia for a sweetener should be just the dried leaf none of the rest of the plant. If you use too much is becomes very bitter. It tastes best if you only use a tiny bit and mix it with another sweetener in order to lower what you use. Say if you normally make tea with honey you could cut your honey in half and just put a little bit of stevia and it would taste just as sweet, with half the carbs and calories of the amount of honey you used to use. So I don't see it as a product that could truly be a sugar/sweetener replacer in any way but if you watch carbs it can help you to cut down on your total carbs when you just really have to have something sweet. engtovo Stevia Posted by: "latinainwpb2" latinainwpb2@... latinainwpb2 Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:41 pm (PDT) I once ordered a stevia powder and it was green and pretty bitter, itwas the whole herb finely ground up. Almost all other stevia powdersI've bought are white and mixed with something else, usuallymaltodextrin, and there's still a bitter after-taste. I can't imaginethat there really is a stevia powder that has no bitter after-taste atall, as it is what we are really getting is a pretty processed productalready, how much more processed will it be to get the after-taste out? Are we stopping to think about this at all? I hadn't, but now I can'thelp but wonder if all those studies that show stevia is "so good" weredone with the whole herb and not just the refined powder/extract thatmost of us use and one of these days we're going to hear that "refined"stevia is not so good after all. Perhaps its only virtue will be thatit's just not as harmful as the rest. :-(Raquel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Hi Raquel, Yes, I understand what you are saying about refining stevia so the bitter taste is gone, and I agree with your point. I am hoping though, that even though it is refined, it is still somewhat good for us. Thank you for the name of the vitamin site. I usually use iherb.com for most of my supplements, but as of now they don’t carry Kal Brand Stevia, so its good to know of a site where they sell the stevia. Kathleen ps, my daughter in law's name is Raquel =-) Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> > >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> > >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> > >>>> > > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> > >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> > >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> > >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 We share the same hope, there aren't too many safe options out there! I once bought xylitol (NOW brand) and it was OK but the bags were rather small. I also bought a bottle of vegetable glycerine but have never used it, need to check that expiration date!Where is your d-i-l from? Raquel is a Spanish name...R.> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>From: tanyaavera@bellsout h.net tanyaavera@bellsout h.net>> > > >>>>Subject: Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> > > >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> > > >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> > > >>>> > > > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> > > >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> > > >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> > > >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 We're of the same mind, that's exactly how I've been using it for years, together with something else. Sometimes in some teas that don't have a bitter aftertaste of their own I can use it all by itself.Raquel>> stevia for a sweetener should be just the dried leaf none of the rest of the plant. If you use too much is becomes very bitter. It tastes best if you only use a tiny bit and mix it with another sweetener in order to lower what you use. Say if you normally make tea with honey you could cut your honey in half and just put a little bit of stevia and it would taste just as sweet, with half the carbs and calories of the amount of honey you used to use. So I don't see it as a product that could truly be a sugar/sweetener replacer in any way but if you watch carbs it can help you to cut down on your total carbs when you just really have to have something sweet.> > engtovo> > Stevia > Posted by: "latinainwpb2" latinainwpb2@... latinainwpb2 > Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:41 pm (PDT) > > > I once ordered a stevia powder and it was green and pretty bitter, it> was the whole herb finely ground up. Almost all other stevia powders> I've bought are white and mixed with something else, usually> maltodextrin, and there's still a bitter after-taste. I can't imagine> that there really is a stevia powder that has no bitter after-taste at> all, as it is what we are really getting is a pretty processed product> already, how much more processed will it be to get the after-taste out? > Are we stopping to think about this at all? I hadn't, but now I can't> help but wonder if all those studies that show stevia is "so good" were> done with the whole herb and not just the refined powder/extract that> most of us use and one of these days we're going to hear that "refined"> stevia is not so good after all. Perhaps its only virtue will be that> it's just not as harmful as the rest. :-(> > Raquel> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I like stevia as a sweetener, because I have read that it does not raise blood sugar and is actually good for the pancreas. Hopefully when it is refined it still has the qualities. I have read good things about xylitol, but then read it is usually made from corn, which is not something I would like to use. Raquel is American, her father is Spanish, mother is Swedish. It’s a beautiful name! Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> > > >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> > > >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> > > >>>> > > > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> > > >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> > > >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> > > >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Xylitol from corn... no, don't want that either. No wonder I saw people writing about "xylitol from birch tree"!R.> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>From: tanyaavera@bellsout h.net tanyaavera@bellsout h.net>> > > > >>>>Subject: Thyroid test results on 9 yr old daughter> > > > >>>>iodinegroups (DOT) com> > > > >>>>Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:18 PM> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>Does this look ok? Should i be supplementing her w/iodine at all? She is a tad bit overweight.> > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>T3 Uptake (Thyroxine Update, Ser/Plas, QN) 34 (range 32-48)> > > > >>>>T4 Total 7.50 (range 6.09-12.23)> > > > >>>>TSH 1.91 *(range .34-5.6)> > > > >>>>Free Thyroxine Index 2.55 (range 1.10 - 4.20)> > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Shirley, Glad to see that you are cutting out the Splenda. It does so much harm. I realize I am often the wet blanket of food and such but Stevia is also a no, no. However this time I have no data on Stevia. I just had two Naturopathic doctors tell me to stay away from it . Personally this was no problem for me because I never liked Stevia. I was told that the best substitute for sugar is Organic raw honey. Not cooked honey but raw honey. It has anti microbial properties which I know all Fibro people really need. (Once you cook honey it becomes the same as regular sugar.) I buy from a local place. My whole family uses it. My husband even puts it in his coffee. Thought I would pass this on. If you would like more info I could delve more into it with someone. Hugs, Sue From: Shirley Godbout <prywarr@...>Subject: Savella Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 12:31 PM I can't tell if it is working or not. I have been having much, much difficulty with sleeping, more than I have in a long time. I don't know for sure if it is the Savella because I only took it once yesterday in the morning. I didn't take it at all this a.m. You know how it is to experiment. I usually don't take anything during the day except for my supplements, only if I feel unusualy anxious or something. Maybe then I will take a Zanix. I have tried many things for sleep but after a while they just quit working. What has worked best for be so far is Temazepam. Thanks for all the feedback. Oh by the way, I bought some Stevia today so I am going to lay off the Splenda for a while and see if I see a difference. Shirley Godbout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I went to a reflexologist who told me to use local organic raw honey to help with food and air allergies. She said she has no scientific evidence to back up her theory, but she has noticed that she and many of her clients have found relief by using the locally produced raw honey. It sounded reasonable to me, so I started buying my honey from a friend of my husband's who keeps bees. Pam Savella Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 12:31 PM I can't tell if it is working or not. I have been having much, much difficulty with sleeping, more than I have in a long time. I don't know for sure if it is the Savella because I only took it once yesterday in the morning. I didn't take it at all this a.m. You know how it is to experiment. I usually don't take anything during the day except for my supplements, only if I feel unusualy anxious or something. Maybe then I will take a Zanix. I have tried many things for sleep but after a while they just quit working. What has worked best for be so far is Temazepam. Thanks for all the feedback. Oh by the way, I bought some Stevia today so I am going to lay off the Splenda for a while and see if I see a difference. Shirley Godbout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 My sister told me to use Agave as a sweetener because it it the least harmful. Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:27 AM, estelle branella <ebranella2@...> wrote: My sister told me to use Agave as a sweetener because it it the least harmful. Estelle I've been hearing that, but I'm not sure why people think it is healthier. From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_syrup Agave syrup consists primarily of fructose and glucose. One source[4] gives 92% fructose and 8% glucose; another[5] gives 56% fructose and 20% glucose. These differences presumably reflect variation from one vendor of agave syrup to another. Due to its fructose content and the fact that the glycemic index only measures glucose levels, agave syrup is notable in that its glycemic index and glycemic load are lower than many other natural sweeteners on the market. [6]. Now, fructose is the supposed evil-doer in " high fructose corn syrup " , which is mainly fructose and sucrose. High fructose corn syrup tends not to raise your blood sugar either, but it's bad in other ways, apparently. So what is it that makes agave better? BTW when I was a kid and we were touring a tequila factory, our tour guide gave us a piece of freshly-cooked agave. That stuff is delicious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I thought this was a good sweetener as well until I read an article on westonaprice.org. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I have read it depends on how it is processed. Don't remember the exact details. I use a raw agave product, and it does not affect my blood glucose readings.IreneOn Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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