coconut water

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcy,

As far as I know there is no such thing as coconut water in a can or

other container " straight out of the coconut " ...they have ALL been

treated to be able to go in the container.This includes water or

milk.So the best thing is to find a wholesaler who can put you onto a

distributor and get them fresh.This is what I have done.There is some

sugars,so i will be using " water kefir " and this uses the sugars and

converts them into other valuable things for the body.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcy!

I have kept my own liver in good health (from taking liver damaging medications)

by taking milk thistle powdered and in my O size capsules. I buy it bulk and

capsulate my self. I take one a day which is about 250 mg.

The milk thistle heals the liver and helps it slough off the diseased/dead

tissue.

I have diabetes and high blood pressure so I have to watch what I take also and

I want to try out the Coconut oil if I can get enough others input on the good

effects.

Love

Bob

Adageyudi

Staya Udanvti

[Guest guest]

Bob:

I took Milk Thistle for quite some time and was told by a Master Herbalist that

worked for a big herbal company here in Canada, that this is not something you

should take indefinitely. It can unfavourably change some of your Liver

enzymes. She said the rule with herbs is 9 weeks on and 3 weeks off.

An email I sent to this List a few days ago, will tell you all the good effects

that I've had.

Bonnie

Re: Coconut water

Hi Marcy!

I have kept my own liver in good health (from taking liver damaging

medications) by taking milk thistle powdered and in my O size capsules. I buy it

bulk and capsulate my self. I take one a day which is about 250 mg.

The milk thistle heals the liver and helps it slough off the diseased/dead

tissue.

I have diabetes and high blood pressure so I have to watch what I take also

and I want to try out the Coconut oil if I can get enough others input on the

good effects.

Love

Bob

Adageyudi

Staya Udanvti

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Bonnie!!

I do not take anything " forever " because I do not want my body to gain a

dependence on it.After about a month off the Diflucan I stopped the milk thistle

and only take it randomly anymore.

The same with all my herbals except the Body Balance + which I take 2 tsp twice

daily to cure my GERD.

Love

Bob

Adageyudi

Staya Udanvti

[Guest guest]

I read that post too an followed the link. Its not supplied in my

area. Does anyone here know of a good supplier?

I've been reading about coconut water an I was confused about the

difference myself. What I've always called milk is the water from

what I've read.

I'd like to try it. Wilderness Family is a supplier but they are out

of stock.

The young green coconuts I thought were the best an were used to make

water kefir. Now I'm not sure.

I'd also like more information on this.

Barbara

>

> I was curious, is the coconut water this person mentioned the water

from

> mature coconuts??? Or young ones?? Which I thought was coconut

milk...

>

>

>

> If you love coconut water our good friends at www.drikzico.com have

> now brought to the market a convenient way to use the water without

> the need live in a tropical county. If you are lacking any vitamins

> or minerals coconut water could be a valuable natural addition to

> your health protocols.

>

>

>

> SeaLady

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Coconut water is the liquid that is inside a young coconut. Im not sure what

defines the age of the coconut but it is fully formed but the shell is not hard

and brown yet .You can also drink the water in a mature coconut but it isnt as

sweet.

IN NC

KC <kaylee4848@...> wrote:

I was curious, is the coconut water this person mentioned the water from

mature coconuts??? Or young ones?? Which I thought was coconut milk...

If you love coconut water our good friends at www.drikzico.com have

now brought to the market a convenient way to use the water without

the need live in a tropical county. If you are lacking any vitamins

or minerals coconut water could be a valuable natural addition to

your health protocols.

SeaLady

[Guest guest]

Hi

The Coconut (the fruit) both mature and young contain a liquid.. A clear liquid.

That is the Coconut Water.. it can be as clear as water.. no cloud. Again that

is Coconut, the liquid that comes from the Coconut fruit.

Now the coconut also contains a " meat " . It is white. The Milk is extracted from

this white meat. In all instances it involves processing this meat with REAL

water, the strained liquid is Coconut MILK. I do not know any instance of

Coconut milk involving processing the Milk with the Coconut " Water " .. although I

do not see why it could not be..

One somewhat OT question. I do not use dairy at this point (will re-introduce

them later), so I use Coconut Milk for everything that would have used " Milk " ..

I am presently using an organic Coconut Milk in an aluminium can. I would like

to stay away from all things Aluminum... I do find Coconut both young and mature

in my locale but don't have the time to prepare the milk from scratch.. Does

someone know a good way to get Coconut Milk, NOT in aluminum cans? What about

experiences with the Coconut " Cream " I have read about?

Frantz

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[Guest guest]

I did some more research and yes the coconut water is from young, immature

coconuts and as I have 2 trees very full of them, I might have to try some

young ones instead of going just for the meat!!

I just ran to the health food store and found several brands of coconut

water to choose from - both were good, but I did find when researching that

some have way more sugar and sodium than other brands.

SeaLady

[Guest guest]

SeaLady,

Im really jealous that you have 2 palms !!

if you want more juice in them and for them to grow bigger,water them

on a regular basis,also mulch. A palm will only give you what it can

get from the soil.

Most coconut palms are not 'culivated' but are left to grow wild.

There was someone on this forum who did the above and they grew nearly

to the size of a basket ball..so they said...as compared to'normal'

unattended 'wild' ones.

Im not sure about the numbers that would result,but again a palm/tree

will give more if its looked after...same as any plant.

If you have 2,let one alone and pamper the other and see what happens.

That would be and interesting test. .

[Guest guest]

Hi Frantz,

Yes, there is a great way to get coconut milk without the can -

coconut milk powder. But you have to have access to a Jamaican or

Caribbean or African market or have a grocery store with a really

great international foods section. I buy a brand called " Maggi " out

of Nestle Food Company in Jamaica (there is one in Trinidad/Tobago as

well). You mix one packet with 3/4 cup of water to make one cup of

coconut milk. According to the package, the mix contains: coconut

milk solids, maltodextrin, milk, sodium caseinate, and mineral

salts. I have never checked on the web to see if this is sold on

Nestle or Maggi's sites, or if there are other brands. I just pick

this up at my local Jamaican grocery store (which took me a very long

time, and lots of asking around to find). Good luck.

Theresa

>

> Hi

>

> The Coconut (the fruit) both mature and young contain a liquid.. A

clear liquid. That is the Coconut Water.. it can be as clear as

water.. no cloud. Again that is Coconut, the liquid that comes from

the Coconut fruit.

> Now the coconut also contains a " meat " . It is white. The Milk is

extracted from this white meat. In all instances it involves

processing this meat with REAL water, the strained liquid is Coconut

MILK. I do not know any instance of Coconut milk involving processing

the Milk with the Coconut " Water " .. although I do not see why it

could not be..

>

> One somewhat OT question. I do not use dairy at this point (will re-

introduce them later), so I use Coconut Milk for everything that

would have used " Milk " .. I am presently using an organic Coconut Milk

in an aluminium can. I would like to stay away from all things

Aluminum... I do find Coconut both young and mature in my locale but

don't have the time to prepare the milk from scratch.. Does someone

know a good way to get Coconut Milk, NOT in aluminum cans? What about

experiences with the Coconut " Cream " I have read about?

>

> Frantz

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Zoe,

Where are you getting your coconut cream concentrate from? Does it

remain in cream form even when cold?

Theresa

>

> Coconut Cream Concentrate is to die for. Cant get enough of that

stuff. Eat it right out of the jar.

> zoe

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am lucky to be able to grow coconuts here - as I live in Florida, if

there is not enough rain the sprinkler system can be turned on, they get

fertilized and mulched along with the mango's banana's, mulberries, citrus

and passion fruit.

Most coconuts don't grow wild here - it can be a just a little bit cooler

than they would like sometime, but I am lucky that I live out on the island

so I stay a bit warmer - I'm only about 40 miles south of the Kennedy Space

Center; an hour or so south of me you will find them growing all over

though.

One of my coconut palms is a Malaysian dwarf, the fruit is oval and smaller,

but very prolific - the other one is big and round like a basketball.

I am going to crack a few open tomorrow..any suggestions as to the best way

to get the meat out of the shell??? After getting it open I have found

putting the 2 pieces in a low oven of about 200 degrees helps; as it cools

it will separate just a bit from the shell making it easier to get the meat

out.

I am still experimenting with temperature and time in the oven; suggestions

please..

SeaLady

SeaLady,

Im really jealous that you have 2 palms !!

if you want more juice in them and for them to grow bigger,water them

on a regular basis,also mulch. A palm will only give you what it can

get from the soil.

Most coconut palms are not 'culivated' but are left to grow wild.

There was someone on this forum who did the above and they grew nearly

to the size of a basket ball..so they said...as compared to'normal'

unattended 'wild' ones.

Im not sure about the numbers that would result,but again a palm/tree

will give more if its looked after...same as any plant.

If you have 2,let one alone and pamper the other and see what happens.

That would be and interesting test. .

[Guest guest]

Hi !

May I know your purpose of removing the coconut meat of kernel from the shell.

In the Philippines, we intend to extract coconut milk, we usually use a grater

(manual or mechanically run); as fresh kernel, further crack the split nuts into

several pieces and with aid of a table knife insert it between the kernel

(meat) and the shell. It should be separated without difficulty.

Putting it (split nuts) after draining the water and let stand at room

temperature for at least 30 minutes to an hour) in the oven for sometime (first

hour at 40 -50 degrees celsius, then at 60 - 75 degrees for the next 2 -3 hours

may make removing the kernel fro the split nuts. But this is not fresh kernel

anymore but dried one (partially) with still about 20 % moisture. The coconut

copra (dried coconut meat at <12 % moisture) is the form from which the coconut

oil is usually extracted as cooking/edible oil. The virgin coconut oil (VCO) is

extracted from the fresh meat/kernel via the coconut milk, either by

fermentation/centrifugation/wet pressing.

Hoping, this helps.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

KC <kaylee4848@...> wrote:

Yes I am lucky to be able to grow coconuts here - as I live in

Florida, if

there is not enough rain the sprinkler system can be turned on, they get

fertilized and mulched along with the mango's banana's, mulberries, citrus

and passion fruit.

Most coconuts don't grow wild here - it can be a just a little bit cooler

than they would like sometime, but I am lucky that I live out on the island

so I stay a bit warmer - I'm only about 40 miles south of the Kennedy Space

Center; an hour or so south of me you will find them growing all over

though.

One of my coconut palms is a Malaysian dwarf, the fruit is oval and smaller,

but very prolific - the other one is big and round like a basketball.

I am going to crack a few open tomorrow..any suggestions as to the best way

to get the meat out of the shell??? After getting it open I have found

putting the 2 pieces in a low oven of about 200 degrees helps; as it cools

it will separate just a bit from the shell making it easier to get the meat

out.

I am still experimenting with temperature and time in the oven; suggestions

please..

SeaLady

SeaLady,

Im really jealous that you have 2 palms !!

if you want more juice in them and for them to grow bigger,water them

on a regular basis,also mulch. A palm will only give you what it can

get from the soil.

Most coconut palms are not 'culivated' but are left to grow wild.

There was someone on this forum who did the above and they grew nearly

to the size of a basket ball..so they said...as compared to'normal'

unattended 'wild' ones.

Im not sure about the numbers that would result,but again a palm/tree

will give more if its looked after...same as any plant.

If you have 2,let one alone and pamper the other and see what happens.

That would be and interesting test. .

[Guest guest]

Hi, I bought my coconut cream concentrate from Tropical Traditions, I didn't

see it on Viviendo's product list, but I am going to write them and see if

they also have it when I order my oil next time.

It is very good in many recipes, I use it when making my nut butter - it has

a good consistency and add a little bit of sweetness.

SeaLady

[Guest guest]

Sev,

I like to just eat the coconut meat, which seems very difficult to separate

from the inside hard shell. In the past I have pried and pried away with a

knife and end up just getting small little pieces.

When I did use a very low heat, most likely due to some shrinkage from a

loss of moisture it will them come off the shell in large pieces - often

without the brown rind which is nice especially if you are going to use it

in recipes. Most of the time I just eat it with the rind and all which is

not that tough, good roughage probably...lol

When you said below that the meat between the kernel and shell should come

apart without difficulty did you leave the split nut to sit for awhile???

Because mine definitely do not separate easily.

Also when you said you just use a grater to get the coconut milk - do you

grate while the meat is still in the shell?? Is there a certain special

grater you use??

SeaLady

Hi !

May I know your purpose of removing the coconut meat of kernel from the

shell. In the Philippines, we intend to extract coconut milk, we usually use

a grater (manual or mechanically run); as fresh kernel, further crack the

split nuts into several pieces and with aid of a table knife insert it

between the kernel (meat) and the shell. It should be separated without

difficulty.

Putting it (split nuts) after draining the water and let stand at room

temperature for at least 30 minutes to an hour) in the oven for sometime

(first hour at 40 -50 degrees celsius, then at 60 - 75 degrees for the next

2 -3 hours may make removing the kernel fro the split nuts. But this is not

fresh kernel anymore but dried one (partially) with still about 20 %

moisture. The coconut copra (dried coconut meat at <12 % moisture) is the

form from which the coconut oil is usually extracted as cooking/edible oil.

The virgin coconut oil (VCO) is extracted from the fresh meat/kernel via the

coconut milk, either by fermentation/centrifugation/wet pressing.

Hoping, this helps.

[Guest guest]

Isn't that coconut cream very very fatteneing? I use to get that or

something like it to make pina coladas around holidays. I'm sure the

cans are not healthy but is it about the same thing?

I love coconut in any shape form or fashion.

Barbara

>

> Coconut Cream Concentrate is to die for. Cant get enough of that

stuff. Eat it right out of the jar.

> zoe

>

>

[Guest guest]

Didn't seem to disturb my downward trend.

zoe

> Isn't that coconut cream very very fatteneing? I use to get that or

> something like it to make pina coladas around holidays. I'm sure the

> cans are not healthy but is it about the same thing?

> I love coconut in any shape form or fashion.

> Barbara

>> Coconut Cream Concentrate is to die for. Cant get enough of that

> stuff. Eat it right out of the jar.

>> zoe

[Guest guest]

I have galls tones how much cw should I drink to get rid of them a day. i know

it won't heal over night.. I drink one box day 11.2 ounces. 8 ounces of canned

oineapple juice half a can of chunk pineapple with juice, cayenne pills,

rasberry pillsa nd sea vegg. it has helped me stop making the percacet anad

don't take but maybe one motrin a day. though trying to get away from that as

well.

I would like to do a gall cleanse but figure i may have to wait till I am 40

when HOPEFULLY I am done bf. LOL ( that's only 10 years away LOL) AHHHHHHH. LOL

thansk for nay help. I know cayenen as a pillisn'tthe best, but it's theonly way

I can get it and my gingavites is getting better and my gums don't bleed or as

much when i brush. I have ALWAYS spat blood not pink but like I lost a tooth

blood. I don't anymore.

my teeth don't hurt as much either.

Shalom

Re: Bruce's latest book

Coconut water does not contain lauric acid. Lauric

acid is in the white coconut milk and coconut oil from

the processing of the white coconut milk.

Mr. Sev Magat, coconut expert, can settle this for us.

[Guest guest]

Mr Fife, thank you for this information. Where do you purchase the water?

thanks. Pat

Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote: Coconut water is becoming

enormously popular nowadays. Ten years ago

when I was doing research for my book “The Coconut Oil Miracle”, I

learned about coconut water. I began to keep a file where I would put

interesting information about coconut water for future reference. When I

published “Coconut Cures” in 2004 I included some of this information.

By 2007 my coconut water file had grown so big I decided I needed to

enlarge the chapter on coconut water in “Coconut Cures.”

At first I thought I would add maybe 5 or 6 pages, but as I began

writing these 5 or 6 pages turned into 20 and I realized there was too

much incredible information I wanted to share. The obvious conclusion

was that I would have to write another book, this time devoted entirely

on coconut water. I spent much of last year researching and writing this

book. I must say, coconut water is just as incredible as coconut oil AND

totally different.

Coconut water has its own unique health benefits completely separate

from coconut oil. Coconut water is essentially fat free, so its health

benefits are not associated with medium chain fatty acids (it contains

no lauric acid). Its benefits come from a combination of vitamins, ionic

minerals, amino acids, enzymes, plant hormones, antioxidants, and other

phytonutrients.

You may have heard that coconut water has been used for intravenous (IV)

therapy. This is 100% true. I’ve gathered dozens of studies from around

the world documenting this fact and describe some amazing stories where

coconut water IVs have saved lives when commercial IV solution had

failed. Studies from the Philippines, Thailand, India, Uganda, Nigeria,

Indonesia, New Zealand, Britain and the United States have confirmed the

effectiveness of IV coconut water. The simplest way to use coconut for

IV therapy is to insert a needle into the soft “eye” of the coconut.

Tubing from this needle goes directly to another needle which is

inserted into the vein of the patient. The coconut water goes straight

from an unopened coconut into the bloodstream of the patient. I have

pictures of this set-up in my book. I know of no other fruit or

vegetable “juice” that can be injected directly into the bloodstream

like this.

Coconut water is so compatible with the human body it is now being

marketed as a “natural” sports rehydration beverage. As a rehydration

beverage it is FAR superior to Gatorade and other commercial sports

drinks. I’ve got studies to back this up.

The benefits don’t stop there. Coconut water helps dissolve kidney

stones, protects against cancer, helps balance blood sugar, provides a

source of ionic trace minerals, improves digestion, feeds friendly gut

bacteria, helps relieve constipation, reduces risk of heart disease,

improves blood circulation, lowers high blood pressure, improves blood

cholesterol levels, helps prevent atherosclerosis, enhances immune

function, and possesses some remarkable anti-aging properties (certain

components of coconut water are now being incorporated into anti-wrinkle

face creams).

My new book is titled “Coconut Water for Health and Healing.” If you

would like to learn more about it, go to www.piccadillybooks.com

<http://www.piccadillybooks.com/> .

Bruce Fife

Re: Bruce's latest book

Coconut water does not contain lauric acid. Lauric

acid is in the white coconut milk and coconut oil from

the processing of the white coconut milk.

Mr. Sev Magat, coconut expert, can settle this for us.

[Guest guest]

Pat,

You can get coconut water at most health food stores, and some grocery

stores. You can also go online. Try www.simplycoconut.com

<http://www.simplycoconut.com/> or www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com

<http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/> .

Bruce

Re: Bruce's latest book

Coconut water does not contain lauric acid. Lauric

acid is in the white coconut milk and coconut oil from

the processing of the white coconut milk.

Mr. Sev Magat, coconut expert, can settle this for us.

[Guest guest]

Here's one I recently came across: http://www.dr-martins.at/home.php?flash=1

Looks good,

but I don't see it being available yet. At least not in the USA.

Some others:

http://www.vitacoco.com/

http://www.zico.com/

http://www.onenaturalexperience.com/

http://www.cocowater.com/

http://www.cocofina.com/ (uk it seems)

http://www.buygracefoods.com/site/product.cfm?id=natural_coconut_water

http://www.goya.com/english/products/product.html?prodSubCatID=38 & prodCatID=5

http://www.myvitanet.com/habaycowa.html

http://www.rubiconexotic.com/coconut.html

Not sure about this one(frozen?): http://www.youngcoconutwater.com/

My coconut water consumption is mainly in the summer months. I wish I could

afford

it year-round.

RE: Coconut Water

Pat,

You can get coconut water at most health food stores, and some grocery

stores. You can also go online. Try www.simplycoconut.com

<http://www.simplycoconut.com/> or www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com

<http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/> .

Bruce

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Flavored but sweetened etc: http://hurricanejuice.com/site/

Might be good once in awhile I guess..but I'd prefer plain cw.

RE: Coconut Water

Pat,

You can get coconut water at most health food stores, and some grocery

stores. You can also go online. Try www.simplycoconut.com

<http://www.simplycoconut.com/> or www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com

<http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/> .

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Thank you Bruce, how much do you recommend you drink a day. Thank you, you have

helped me quite a bit the last few years with your coconut oil information. Pat

Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote: Pat,

You can get coconut water at most health food stores, and some grocery

stores. You can also go online. Try www.simplycoconut.com

<http://www.simplycoconut.com/> or www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com

<http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/> .

Bruce

Re: Bruce's latest book

Coconut water does not contain lauric acid. Lauric

acid is in the white coconut milk and coconut oil from

the processing of the white coconut milk.

Mr. Sev Magat, coconut expert, can settle this for us.

[Guest guest]

I just bought a 12 pack on Amazon for $21 or Shaws our local supermarket with a

nice naturals section carries them about $.10 cheaper than that.

Shalom

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Mr Fife, thank you for this information. Where do you purchase the water?

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Shalom, thank you for this, how much do you drink daily. thanks. pat

Shalom <Sstuck@...> wrote: I just bought a 12 pack on Amazon

for $21 or Shaws our local supermarket with a nice naturals section carries them

about $.10 cheaper than that.

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