Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Hi, Stania, >Epsom salt doesn't seem to be available here (Czech Republic). Is it >expensive? Is it available in Europe (Germany, France, GB)? Can MgSO4 be >substituted by any other remedy? Anybody..? I would be very surprised if the equivalent was not available in Europe. Epsom salts is a brand name that has been taken over for generic (like Kleenex or Xerox), and that particular brand may not be available; but the equivalent surely is. Its use as a soak for various ailments goes way back, at least 200 years. Epsom salts is pretty much health/technical-grade MgSO4, and is the cheapest form of Mg salts available as a supplement. I think that the MgSO4 specifically is best as a soak, but probably any Mg salt could be used instead as a nutritional supplement. Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Hi Jerry, I tried to find " magnesii sulfas heptahydricus " and it's available only as a part of a laxative supp. Another possible substitute is s Liver Salt which contains 1,76 g of magnesii sulfas siccus (and natrii hydrogencarbonas and accidum citricum). For the liver flush they say one should take one tblsp of Epsom salts (repeatedly) because it opens the " valves " in liver tubing and thus enables the flushing out of the stones. I wonder if s will do the same? Stania ----- Puvodní zpráva ----- Od: " Jerry " <jerrycam@...> > Epsom salts is pretty much health/technical-grade MgSO4, and is the cheapest > form of Mg salts available as a supplement. I think that the MgSO4 > specifically is best as a soak, but probably any Mg salt could be used > instead as a nutritional supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Stania, I checked with my local pharmacy here in Holland. They do have magnesium sulphate powder, E6.60 for 100 grams. I think that is more expensive than in the US, but I would be happy to send you some if you would like. Matt > Hi Jerry, I tried to find " magnesii sulfas heptahydricus " and it's available > only as a part of a laxative supp. Another possible substitute is s > Liver Salt which contains 1,76 g of magnesii sulfas siccus (and natrii > hydrogencarbonas and accidum citricum). For the liver flush they say one > should take one tblsp of Epsom salts (repeatedly) because it opens the > " valves " in liver tubing and thus enables the flushing out of the stones. I > wonder if s will do the same? > Stania > ----- Puvodní zpráva ----- > Od: " Jerry " <jerrycam@h...> > > Epsom salts is pretty much health/technical-grade MgSO4, and is the > cheapest > > form of Mg salts available as a supplement. I think that the MgSO4 > > specifically is best as a soak, but probably any Mg salt could be used > > instead as a nutritional supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Matt, it's very kind of you. But in the meantime I have found a way how to get Epsom salts from England. Thanks a lot anyway Have a nice day Stania ----- Puvodní zpráva ----- Od: " Matt Hoppe " <hoppe@...> Komu: <egroups> Odesláno: 20. ledna 2001 9:39 Predmet: Re: Epsom salts Stania, I checked with my local pharmacy here in Holland. They do have magnesium sulphate powder, E6.60 for 100 grams. I think that is more expensive than in the US, but I would be happy to send you some if you would like. Matt > Hi Jerry, I tried to find " magnesii sulfas heptahydricus " and it's available > only as a part of a laxative supp. Another possible substitute is s > Liver Salt which contains 1,76 g of magnesii sulfas siccus (and natrii > hydrogencarbonas and accidum citricum). For the liver flush they say one > should take one tblsp of Epsom salts (repeatedly) because it opens the > " valves " in liver tubing and thus enables the flushing out of the stones. I > wonder if s will do the same? > Stania > ----- Puvodní zpráva ----- > Od: " Jerry " <jerrycam@h...> > > Epsom salts is pretty much health/technical-grade MgSO4, and is the > cheapest > > form of Mg salts available as a supplement. I think that the MgSO4 > > specifically is best as a soak, but probably any Mg salt could be used > > instead as a nutritional supplement. This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Dear Marjie and group: I saw that salt (inexpensive and in large bags) at the hardware store here and asked about it. The owner of the ACE hardware store told me that grade IS NOT made for baths for humans. I am not sure if he is right now by reading your posts. Please let me know how the salts work you two. Would like to hear others opinions also. Sincerely, Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Obie, Any drug store or even grocery chain store carries Epsom salts. It may not say 'oral' on the outside, so look for 'used for laxative purposes' or some such. Up here, we buy it at Safeway. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Obie " <obie@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:02:10 -0600 Dear List. We're going to do a liver cleanse and in looking at the formula, I see it calls for Oral Epson Salts. Is this a preparation we can buy or do we make it with the chards of Epson Salts and water or something else. Sounds dumb, hate to ask such a question but I just don't know. Help! Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Obie, Any drug store or even grocery chain store carries Epsom salts. It may not say 'oral' on the outside, so look for 'used for laxative purposes' or some such. Up here, we buy it at Safeway. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Obie " <obie@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:02:10 -0600 Dear List. We're going to do a liver cleanse and in looking at the formula, I see it calls for Oral Epson Salts. Is this a preparation we can buy or do we make it with the chards of Epson Salts and water or something else. Sounds dumb, hate to ask such a question but I just don't know. Help! Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ah, okay. I considered you meant a pre-mixed oral solution of some sort. Many thanks. I report back how we do. Obie. _____ From: Saul Pressman [mailto:spressman@...] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:39 AM oxyplus Subject: RE: Epsom salts Dear Obie, Any drug store or even grocery chain store carries Epsom salts. It may not say 'oral' on the outside, so look for 'used for laxative purposes' or some such. Up here, we buy it at Safeway. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Obie " <obie@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:02:10 -0600 Dear List. We're going to do a liver cleanse and in looking at the formula, I see it calls for Oral Epson Salts. Is this a preparation we can buy or do we make it with the chards of Epson Salts and water or something else. Sounds dumb, hate to ask such a question but I just don't know. Help! Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ah, okay. I considered you meant a pre-mixed oral solution of some sort. Many thanks. I report back how we do. Obie. _____ From: Saul Pressman [mailto:spressman@...] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:39 AM oxyplus Subject: RE: Epsom salts Dear Obie, Any drug store or even grocery chain store carries Epsom salts. It may not say 'oral' on the outside, so look for 'used for laxative purposes' or some such. Up here, we buy it at Safeway. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Obie " <obie@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:02:10 -0600 Dear List. We're going to do a liver cleanse and in looking at the formula, I see it calls for Oral Epson Salts. Is this a preparation we can buy or do we make it with the chards of Epson Salts and water or something else. Sounds dumb, hate to ask such a question but I just don't know. Help! Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 The ONLY place I can find it now (used to easy) is Boots. I think its £1.49 for 500grams HTHMandi Where is the best place in the UK to bulk buy Epsom Salts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 dietary needs direct deliver it to your door in 2 kg sacks, but I don't know how their prices compare with others - they are quite possibly more expensive. Epsom Salts Where is the best place in the UK to bulk buy Epsom Salts?Any suggestions.Sally in Manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Epsom Salts: 25Kg ~£40 including delivery. http://www.justasoap.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php? cPath=38 & products_id=207 If you find cheaper do post it! Mark > > Where is the best place in the UK to bulk buy Epsom Salts? > > Any suggestions. > > Sally in Manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Thanks Mark, I rember this from ages now you have reminded me. Shipping is painful but still owrks out 1/2 the price of buying same amount at Boots Mandi (who will owe you commsion soon given how much you have saved this week LOL) Epsom Salts: 25Kg ~£40 including delivery.http://www.justasoap.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=38 & products_id=207If you find cheaper do post it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Hi, I'm just catching up after being away. You can order this by the bagful from dietary needs direct - can't remember the website, it's either http://www.dietaryneedsdirect.co.uk/ or htttp://www.dnd.co.uk/ >From: Mum231ASD@... >Reply-Desperate4DMPSEurope >Desperate4DMPSEurope >Subject: Re: Epsom Salts >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:54:24 EST > >The ONLY place I can find it now (used to easy) is Boots. I think its £1.49 >for 500grams >HTH >Mandi > >Where is the best place in the UK to bulk buy Epsom Salts? > > > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi I use www.justasoap.co.uk. You can buy a 25kg bag which lasts ages for £29.99 which includes VAT. It's usually delivered in 2 days. Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 If this is to keep clostridia at bay we have used sachromyces boulardii effectively to do this- perhaps its worth asking Dr H about it? Epsom salts Can anyone tell me where I can buy Epsom salts in bulk in the Uk please? We use them rapidly and it is costing me a fortune. I bought a load from the Breakspear but am running out and don't fancy the postage!!Also, Dr H suggested I use Culturelle but my son is gf/cf and just read that Culturelle is based on whey & has trace casein. Before I go back to Dr H to query just wanted to hear if others have used?Finally, (sorry for all questions) We are about to start chelation - my son is very high in lead (Dr H said he had never seen such a high lead reading in any other child he has treated!)He also showed mercury. I am presuming that Dr H will want to use DMSA. Been reading all the NDF+ and PCX discussions. I wanted to ask all you 'experienced' chelators where/how you would start? I am worried about all the 'good'stuff that chelation also pulls and heard Lang's comments about releasing more toxins than the body can excrete etc. Doing nothing is not an option - can't leave all that lead in there but I am worried about effects. Anything I can do to minimise?Thanks - Gail & #9786; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I also use Justasoap - worth getting the great big bag - we've had ours for three months and Tom bathes almost every night. Only about half used and so much cheaper than boxes from Boots. > Can anyone tell me where I can buy Epsom salts in bulk in the Uk > please? We use them rapidly and it is costing me a fortune. I bought > a load from the Breakspear but am running out and don't fancy the > postage!! > > Also, Dr H suggested I use Culturelle but my son is gf/cf and just > read that Culturelle is based on whey & has trace casein. Before I > go back to Dr H to query just wanted to hear if others have used? > > Finally, (sorry for all questions) We are about to start chelation - > my son is very high in lead (Dr H said he had never seen such a high > lead reading in any other child he has treated!)He also showed > mercury. I am presuming that Dr H will want to use DMSA. Been > reading all the NDF+ and PCX discussions. I wanted to ask all > you 'experienced' chelators where/how you would start? > I am worried about all the 'good'stuff that chelation also pulls and > heard Lang's comments about releasing more toxins than the > body can excrete etc. Doing nothing is not an option - can't leave > all that lead in there but I am worried about effects. Anything I can > do to minimise? > Thanks - > Gail & #9786; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Fantastic - thanks very much. Just ordered 25kg. Gail > Hi > > I use _www.justasoap.co.uk_ (http://www.justasoap.co.uk) . > > You can buy a 25kg bag which lasts ages for £29.99 which includes VAT. It's > usually delivered in 2 days. > > Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 In a message dated 22/08/2005 09:56:53 GMT Daylight Time, gail@... writes: Finally, (sorry for all questions) We are about to start chelation - my son is very high in lead (Dr H said he had never seen such a high lead reading in any other child he has treated!)He also showed mercury. I am presuming that Dr H will want to use DMSA. Been reading all the NDF+ and PCX discussions. I wanted to ask all you 'experienced' chelators where/how you would start? >>>>I would start with oral DMSA. I am hoping Dr H might consider IV EDTA sometime in the future - we need to get him to Scotland so he can meet Dr Usman. That would be low frequent dosing of DMSA BTW Mandi in Dorset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Sorry – I’m new to this – what does Epsom Salts do? From: TreatingAutism-Biomedical [mailto:TreatingAutism-Biomedical ] On Behalf Of gailjewsbury Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:56 AM TreatingAutism-Biomedical Subject: Epsom salts Can anyone tell me where I can buy Epsom salts in bulk in the Uk please? We use them rapidly and it is costing me a fortune. I bought a load from the Breakspear but am running out and don't fancy the postage!! Also, Dr H suggested I use Culturelle but my son is gf/cf and just read that Culturelle is based on whey & has trace casein. Before I go back to Dr H to query just wanted to hear if others have used? Finally, (sorry for all questions) We are about to start chelation - my son is very high in lead (Dr H said he had never seen such a high lead reading in any other child he has treated!)He also showed mercury. I am presuming that Dr H will want to use DMSA. Been reading all the NDF+ and PCX discussions. I wanted to ask all you 'experienced' chelators where/how you would start? I am worried about all the 'good'stuff that chelation also pulls and heard Lang's comments about releasing more toxins than the body can excrete etc. Doing nothing is not an option - can't leave all that lead in there but I am worried about effects. Anything I can do to minimise? Thanks - Gail & #9786; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Epsom salts baths are used to boost sulfate levels which are often low in ASD kids. Sulphate is used to detoxify things like phenols and this mechanism doesn't work efficiently when sulphate is low. See the article in the files. Grandfather of Luke > Sorry - I'm new to this - what does Epsom Salts do? > .............snip............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 On May 15, 2006, at 5:19 AM, wrote: > was just reading somewhere about someone using 'epsom salts'- and > it came flashing back to me, the oddly shaped flat green tin of epsom > salts that always sat beside the sink in the kitchen. > My grandmother used to take it several times a day for > her 'rheumatism' > > Looking it up I have read that epsom salts are said to be a useful > source of magnesium; and are also sometimes used in the treatment of > autism and gulf war symdrome. > > Perhaps she was even smarter than I previously believed? > > any thoughts, anyone? We've had some interesting conversations here on the uses of magnesium for joint, bone, and muscle pain. Many of us (me included) enjoy epsom salt baths as one way to get a little extra mg when we're feeling sore and crashy. It's also apparently very commonly used in the autism and Alzheimer's communities as well. Thanks to one of these conversations last January, I started taking 500mg of magnesium and 150 of p5p (its cofactor) every day. Even though I'm mostly recovered and not much sore, it made a startling improvement in the overall comfort of my body. There was still low- grade pain I didn't even know I had until I didn't have it anymore. Quite a relief. In other news: I'm on my third day of liposomal glutathione. I'm taking 1.5t morning and evening, per Essential Wellness' instructions. Wow. I'm clearly getting more of the good stuff than I do from my shots. Am a little wiped out today, but it's a good happy- body sort of wiped out, like my immune system is busy getting things cleared up. And still no reaction to the soy lecithin in the lipsomes, which had been a worry. This could be good. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Homozon only has magnesium oxide in it. I did a flush with homozon instead of epsom salt. It worked " okay " but wasn't quite as good as the epsom salts. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com http://www.fountain-of-life-healing-school.com Carol wrote: > > To add to the comments, epsom salts is just magnesium sulfate with some > water. And from what I understand, Homozon has more stuff in it > (including > calcium, I think). > > > Recent Activity > > * > 1 > New Members > <oxyplus/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaTVubzNtBF9TAzk3MzU5\ NzE0BGdycElkAzQ5NzMzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDgxNARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMx\ MTYxMzc0NzUw> > * > 1 > New Links > <oxyplus/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZXFoc2xiBF9TAzk3MzU5Nz\ E0BGdycElkAzQ5NzMzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDgxNARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bGlua3MEc3RpbWUDMT\ E2MTM3NDc1MA--> > > Visit Your Group > <oxyplus;_ylc=X3oDMTJjcGswOWJuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdy\ cElkAzQ5NzMzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDgxNARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExNjEzNzQ3\ NTA-> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 hi beate, i have recently reintroduced epsom salts i started with 2 teaspoons and worked up to 2 cupfulls every night if you do it slowly you will be able to see whether your child can cope with it if you should get a negative reaction just put a little less in the next time. love melissa --- Beate wrote: > Just started using Epsom Salts. How often/ how much > is advicable? Is there a negative response possible > if using too much? > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------- > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get > a free analysis of your email personality. Take the > quiz at the Championship. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. http://autos./new_cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Rita & Mike- As I keep saying- it seems that natural, simple things that come from good ol' mother nature are what work best for these things and man-made medicines and chemicals seem to make them worse. Thank you for the great advice! (I've had these things for over 2 years too) I'll be trying this as soon as possible... One more thing, I wonder if consuming large amounts of salt would be beneficial to cleanse these things from the inside of our bodies? If so, does anyone have any advice or input as to how much would be good or if too much (or any) would be harmful? Can you consume epsom salts? Are they toxic? Thank you- som > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, Having lived with these mites for two years I > > have > > > > stumbled onto something that gets them off the skin. Epson > > salt. I > > > took > > > > a one pint empty Listerine bottle filled it with 2 inches of > > epson > > > salt > > > > and shook the bottle until completely disolved. I showered > with > > > dawn > > > > dish washing liquid and then poured the salt solution over my > > body > > > from > > > > head to toe. I got out of the shower and used a blow drier to > > dry > > > off. > > > > After two nights of doing this the mites are gone from my > skin. > > > This is > > > > the only thing besides straight clorox that I have ever used > > that > > > > killed the mites. The salt actully removes them from the skin > > > better > > > > than the clorox. I'm looking into to ways of spraying the > salt > > > solution > > > > around my house to clean the things from the environment. > Hope > > this > > > > helps everyone who tries it. Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release > Date: > > 1/14/2008 5:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: > 1/14/2008 5:39 PM > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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