Re: new - with questions

[Guest guest]

I am SOOOoooo impressed with you! I think that's just great that you

have read so much around this site. It's great to come in with some

knowledge -- it makes is so much easier to understand all the

responses you're going to get!

Well, I don't drink the apple juice and I don't take any stone-

breaking herbs and I swallow 16 ounces of olive oil and 1 cup of

lemon juice in my cleanse (after two doses of Epsom salts). And I

have a great cleanse. I get a lot of stones out, and have a fairly

quick recovery -- though I don't have that burst of energy some

people report.

My husband does drink the apple juice. And I think he only takes one

dose of Epsom salts. Then over the course of an hour he drinks 1 cup

of olive oil mixed with one cup of grapefruit juice. And his cleanse

is pretty good, too.

I haven't done a cleanse in a while because I'm having a lot of luck

with taking magnesium supplements, vitamin C, and flax oil and fish

oil capsules before bed every night. I don't check to see if I'm

passing stones, but I'm not having any pain or discomfort, so I'm

happy with the results.

I think you have to judge from the state of your own health and what

you know you can tolerate. I'm the type to dive right in, so I

didn't mess with apple juice or any of that -- and my body is used

to me being like that. Other people could not get away with that and

I would never try to convince them that they should.

I hope you work out what your body needs you to do and have a great

cleanse.

Luci

--- In gallstones , " gggg612002 " <rose0202@t...>

wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I'm new to the list and have spent the last few days reading some

of

> the old posts. I was diagnosed with gallstones recently and

referred

> to a surgeon. I don't have an appointment yet. I would rather

not

> go that route so I've been look at alternatives. I'm considering

the

> olive oil/lemon juice (or grapefruit juice) flush and I have some

> questions. Some of the directions ask you to drink organic apple

> juice a few days before the flush - can I use regular apple juice,

or

> does it have to be organic apple juice? What is the difference

other

> than pesticides ? And secondly, I just bought a supplement

called

> Stone Free. Has anyone had any luck with it? Should I try it for

a

> month and then do a flush?

>

> Thanks for any advice!

[Guest guest]

Hi cuseology and Welcome,

At your age you need your Dr. to test your Estradiol levels get a Quest labs

Estradiol sensitive test #4021 if your levels are over 30 pg/ml best at 20 then

this can be why your levels are low. But your dam low and free is only about 1

to 2% of your Total so your Dr. forgot his math 2% or your Total T is not much

if your Total T was say 700 this would be a good number for Free T.

You do need to get checked over real good to see if something is wrong that

might have lowered you T levels before going on TRT.

TRT is for life I must tell you if your add Testosterone meds to your blood it's

very hard to tell why your low.

If your Dr. tells you he is sending you to see an Endo don't go for it they are

not good Dr.'s for low T and many family Dr.'s don't know this.

If your Dr. dose not know how to test and treat you see if he will work with Dr.

over the phone to do this. Or drive or fly out and see him at

www.allthingsmale.com

One big problem us men have is the Dr. finding a good one is very hard.

Here are some links about this you can read learn about this so when you see

your Dr. or a new one you will be able to tell if he is anygood.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

In the following link it talks about how high Estradiol can lower a mans T

levels.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: cuseology <no_reply >

> Subject: New - with questions

>

> Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 9:38 PM

> I am 58 years old and just got the

> lab results on my testosterone levels.  Total was 221

> ng/dl - Yikes.  Free testosterone was 52.2 pg/ml and

> the % free testosterone was 2.36.

>

> In a brief phone call from my primary today he seemed to

> think the fact that my % of free to total testerone was

> higher than the top of the reference range, was the most

> important thing.  I'm thinking that while the

> percentage may be high - the denominator (221) was so low

> that it's worth it to go see someone who deals with low T

> routinely.

>

> Any thoughts and comments would be appreciated.

>

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