Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 on 7/9/00 6:28 am, richard saling at rsaling@... wrote: > Has anyone ever used vanilla bean to scent soap? Or Tahitian Blend Pure > Vanilla extract for that matter? > Hi , The Tahitian vanilla extract usually has alcohol so it might react in the process. Try infusing the oils and water with the beans instead. Natasha Kamakura Garden - It's Only Natural - Japan http://www.kamakura-garden.com Aroma Herbal Body Beauty & Skin Care Secrets -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 I tried it once and the vanilla didn't hold up in the process. It needs EO " help " . The vanilla bean looked great in the soap! Like Bryers Ice Cream! -- Marcelle Karustis mkarustis@... - email (973) 776-3900 x7867 - voicemail/fax ---- Natasha <natasha@...> wrote: > > on 7/9/00 6:28 am, richard saling at rsaling@... wrote: > > > Has anyone ever used vanilla bean to scent soap? Or Tahitian Blend > Pure > > Vanilla extract for that matter? > > > Hi , > > The Tahitian vanilla extract usually has alcohol so it might react > in the > process. > > Try infusing the oils and water with the beans instead. > > Natasha > Kamakura Garden - It's Only Natural - Japan > http://www.kamakura-garden.com > Aroma Herbal Body Beauty & Skin Care Secrets > -- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Deb, Currently I have only come across two forms of true Vanilla. One is a CO2 extraction, meaning carbon dioxide extraction. Another is an oleoresin, meaning it's been solvent extracted and sold prior to the further refinement of the product which would result in a Vanilla absolute. Vanilla absolute has soared in price, well over $300 an ounce for genuine material. Thus the oleoresin is a good alternative, but, it is rather viscous... diluted into a base or alcohol is a good idea, depending on the use. Another alternative would be Fragrant Earths Vanilla Monoi oil. Quite divine. it's vanilla, monoi flowers in a coconut oil base. VERY YUMMY! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 From what I read just this after noon, absolute has alcohol in it... Please let me know if the information that I read in my new literture is not right... frances Re:vanilla > At 12:41 AM 1/4/02 +0000, you wrote: > >as few drops of Vanilla absolute as possible. > >(since its so outrageously expensive!) > > I honestly don't like the idea of putting ANY absolute in a lip balm > because of the solvent residue... I'd think that the CO2 extracted vanilla > would be safer since it's solvent free. > > (we use the " used " disposable pipettes from measuring/blending it to flaver > vanilla sugar. found (the hard way) one " empty pipette " (with the residue > that remains on the outside of the pipette was WAY too much flavor for a > pound of sugar...ended up mixing the flavored sugar into two more bls of > plain sugar to get the flavour right.) > > but it's food save, where I don't think the absolutes are. > > not sure how the price compares since I don't buy the absolute... but I > know the 10% is potent...some clients use just a few drops of the 10% > dilution in jojoba to flavor a batch of lip balm. (and, no, I don't know > what size batch...sorry!) > > > > Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy > Accessories, Information, Books and more! > Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 At 12:41 AM 1/4/02 +0000, you wrote: >as few drops of Vanilla absolute as possible. >(since its so outrageously expensive!) I honestly don't like the idea of putting ANY absolute in a lip balm because of the solvent residue... I'd think that the CO2 extracted vanilla would be safer since it's solvent free. (we use the " used " disposable pipettes from measuring/blending it to flaver vanilla sugar. found (the hard way) one " empty pipette " (with the residue that remains on the outside of the pipette was WAY too much flavor for a pound of sugar...ended up mixing the flavored sugar into two more bls of plain sugar to get the flavour right.) but it's food save, where I don't think the absolutes are. not sure how the price compares since I don't buy the absolute... but I know the 10% is potent...some clients use just a few drops of the 10% dilution in jojoba to flavor a batch of lip balm. (and, no, I don't know what size batch...sorry!) Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 There are extracts, flavorings and absolutes. The absolutes are of course very expensive. I do use the absolutes and a little goes a long way. I add vanilla perfume oil and extracts with it. I use the perfume oil offered by The Essential Oil Company. It has a very rich vanilla scent. There is real vanilla in it. It has the added benefit of creating color which is a natural result of tannins. Some companies offer the fragrance oil of vanilla and it has a plastic smell. Can't tell you how many bottles of unused f.o. of vanilla I have from lots of companies. Barb D. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Miranda Sterling <miranda@...> Reply- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:17:08 -0600 ><html><body> > > ><tt> >Hi,<BR> >I've been trying to find a natural source for vanilla scent for my <BR> >soaps. All the vanilla I'm aware of for scenting soap is FO, and I don't <BR> >like using them.<BR> ><BR> >It's my impression (without ever trying it, just my guess) that vanilla <BR> >extract won't be strong enough to really smell it in the soap, assuming it <BR> >will work at all chemically. The only vanilla essential oil I found isn't <BR> >even an EO, it's a CO2 extract, and it is *expensive*!<BR> ><BR> >Any thoughts?<BR> ><BR> >Miranda Sterling<BR> ><a href= " http://www.clearlightsoap.com " >http://www.clearlightsoap.com</a><BR> >Maker of fine soaps and shampoos<BR> ><BR> >I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are<BR> >more screwed up than you think.<BR> ><BR> ></tt> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> ></tr> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> ><td align=center width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=153641.1824646.3335993.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705060\ 913:HM/A=889707/R=0/*http://shop.store./cgi-bin/clink?gloss2+shopping:d\ mad/M=153641.1824646.3335993.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705060913:HM/A=889707/R=1/10\ 11932356+http://us.rmi./rmi/http://www.gloss.com/rmi-framed-url/http://\ www.gloss.com/module/EsteeLauder/templates/product/prod_multi.jhtml%3FmCategoryI\ d=cat40207%26mktAdTrack=22000072 " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/an/anchor/shopping/gloss/gel_ncs_fragra\ nce_intution.jpg " width=300 height=250 ALT= " [] " border=0></a><p><hr size=1 nowrap width= " 98% " ></td> ></tr> ><tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=153641.1824646.3335993.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705060913:HM/A=889707/rand=690017263 " ></td></tr> ></table> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > ><br> ><tt> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 At 10:12 AM 1/25/02 +0000, you wrote: >I've been trying to find a natural source for vanilla scent for my >soaps. All the vanilla I'm aware of for scenting soap is FO, and I don't >like using them. > >It's my impression (without ever trying it, just my guess) that vanilla >extract won't be strong enough to really smell it in the soap, assuming it >will work at all chemically. The only vanilla essential oil I found isn't >even an EO, it's a CO2 extract, and it is *expensive*! there IS no Vanilla true EO... it won't steam distill...that's why people use either an absolute (extracted with solvents) or the CO2 extract which leaves no solvent residues. it IS expensive...but because of it's strength very little is needed. Vanilla Extract is usually alcohol based....you are adding mostly alcohol with just a smidge of vanilla, whereas with the CO2 you are using pure, undiluted vanilla, no alcohol or other solvents. big difference! Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Barbara, I, too, have been searching for a true vanilla. When using the Essential Oil Company vanilla PO in soap, how much do you use per pound of oils? Also, are you saying that in addition to using the vanilla PO, you also add vanilla extract to soap? If so, how much do you use? Do you also purchase a vanilla absolute from them (thinking I may need a bank loan....) I see that the Essential Oil Company has a 50.00 minimum. Are there any other PO's, FO's, or EO's they sell that you would recommend? TIA, Dorothy Message: 8 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:21:00 -0600 From: " Barbara Foley-Drobnick " <Barb@...> Subject: Re: vanilla <snip> I do use the absolutes and a little goes a long way. I add vanilla perfume oil and extracts with it. I use the perfume oil offered by The Essential Oil Company.<snip> Barb D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Would it be possible to intensify the fragrance by adding cooked real vanilla bean? If so, would one then have to put in some sort of heavy-duty preservative to make certain that it doesn't mold or anything like that? It would be expensive to make, but couldn't it be priced accordingly? Gayle --- Marge <marge@...> wrote: > At 10:12 AM 1/25/02 +0000, you wrote: > >I've been trying to find a natural source for > vanilla scent for my > >soaps. All the vanilla I'm aware of for scenting > soap is FO, and I don't > >like using them. > > > >It's my impression (without ever trying it, just my > guess) that vanilla > >extract won't be strong enough to really smell it > in the soap, assuming it > >will work at all chemically. The only vanilla > essential oil I found isn't > >even an EO, it's a CO2 extract, and it is > *expensive*! > > > there IS no Vanilla true EO... it won't steam > distill...that's why people > use either an absolute (extracted with solvents) or > the CO2 extract which > leaves no solvent residues. it IS expensive...but > because of it's strength > very little is needed. > > Vanilla Extract is usually alcohol based....you are > adding mostly alcohol > with just a smidge of vanilla, whereas with the CO2 > you are using pure, > undiluted vanilla, no alcohol or other solvents. > big difference! > > > > > > > Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy > Accessories, Information, Books and more! > Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> > > ===== Gayle __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Gayle- I to was bent on using real vanilla several years ago. Just had so many problems. I have found one vanila fo that is pure enough you can eat it, although I would not suggest it. http://www.candlecocoon.com It is Vanilla Voodoo. Good luck --- gayle smith <gaylecsmith@...> wrote: > Would it be possible to intensify the fragrance by > adding cooked real vanilla bean? If so, would one > then have to put in some sort of heavy-duty > preservative to make certain that it doesn't mold or > anything like that? It would be expensive to make, > but couldn't it be priced accordingly? > > Gayle ===== Janet Golden __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 What was the problem with it? Did it discolor or wreck the trace or something like that? Is it expensive? Gayle --- Janet Golden <lovingsense2002@...> wrote: > Gayle- > > I to was bent on using real vanilla several years > ago. > Just had so many problems. I have found one vanila > fo > that is pure enough you can eat it, although I would > not suggest it. > > http://www.candlecocoon.com > > It is Vanilla Voodoo. > > Good luck > > --- gayle smith <gaylecsmith@...> wrote: > > Would it be possible to intensify the fragrance by > > adding cooked real vanilla bean? If so, would one > > then have to put in some sort of heavy-duty > > preservative to make certain that it doesn't mold > or > > anything like that? It would be expensive to > make, > > but couldn't it be priced accordingly? > > > > Gayle > > > ===== > Janet Golden > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 At 02:48 AM 4/14/02 +0000, you wrote: >Anybody ever use vanilla extract in lotions, lotion bars, etc? I'm >tempted... TIA - Happy Dancin' the high amount of alcohol in commercial (food flavoring) vanilla extract will really throw off your formulas. you can buy a glycerine based vanilla extract in health food stores...that would be better...or use a natural vanilla .. or a synthetic FO. Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 At 10:36 PM 4/15/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Marge, any idea what the glycerine based vanilla extract is called... >Im in the UK and have never seen it - but it sounds ideal for mp soap. I >think my current obsession is vanilla and beeswax... roll on next week, Im >sure it will be something else! Fionna, I don't remember...at home I have some " almond extract " in glycerine... I bought it at a big health food/organic foods shop here... I know they also offered Vanilla. but I don't remember the brand name...and it's a US brand anyway... just something you might look for. Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 In a message dated 1/22/2003 11:46:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, trishw@... writes: << " Ingredients: Agua, extractivos de 15% de vainas de vainilla, alcohol etilico y propilen glico " >> Water, vanilla extract, alcohol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 The last ingredient appears to be propalyne(?) glycol, which is a definite no-no. That's an ingredient in anti-freeze, isn't it? Richmond, Virginia In a message dated 1/22/2003 11:46:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, trishw@... writes: << " Ingredients: Agua, extractivos de 15% de vainas de vainilla, alcohol etilico y propilen glico " >> Water, vanilla extract, alcohol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 If it is propylene glycol, it is very bad for you, even though you will find it in most hair conditioners and face moisturizers. I think the remaining ingredients isn't too bad RE: vanilla The last ingredient appears to be propalyne(?) glycol, which is a definite no-no. That's an ingredient in anti-freeze, isn't it? Richmond, Virginia In a message dated 1/22/2003 11:46:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, trishw@... writes: << " Ingredients: Agua, extractivos de 15% de vainas de vainilla, alcohol etilico y propilen glico " >> Water, vanilla extract, alcohol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 Well I've looked high and low for vanilla Myoplex lite and haven't come up with any. I still buy Ultra Size vanilla from vitaglo but no local stores have any Myoplex lite. What's up with that I wonder. They have the regular and the Deluxe but I don't need all that. I don't do very well halfing them either because one ends up having more stuff in it than the other half does. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 --- lol..you can have my myoplex lite! it is like the mocha ice flavor or sumthin like that. Ihave had it for a year..I can't seem to want to eat them anymore! I used to luv them..I do not know what happened. but now..I don't like my precision protein vanilla anymore! but..I still luv precision protein chocolate more than anything..more than myoplex lite ofcourse. have you checked bodybuilding.com..that is where I used to get my supplements. they are pretty cheap..they have a shipping office in florida so it should ship to you pretty fast I think. Yeah..I do not do the half either. I tried before and it never ever comes out equal. Kathi In , " S Bachrach " <s_bachrach@y...> wrote: > Well I've looked high and low for vanilla Myoplex lite and haven't > come up with any. I still buy Ultra Size vanilla from vitaglo but no > local stores have any Myoplex lite. What's up with that I wonder. > They have the regular and the Deluxe but I don't need all that. I > don't do very well halfing them either because one ends up having > more stuff in it than the other half does. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 I just ordered some from vitaminshoppe.com It came in 2days!! > Well I've looked high and low for vanilla Myoplex lite and haven't > come up with any. I still buy Ultra Size vanilla from vitaglo but no > local stores have any Myoplex lite. What's up with that I wonder. > They have the regular and the Deluxe but I don't need all that. I > don't do very well halfing them either because one ends up having > more stuff in it than the other half does. > > Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 > > Has anyone tried the vanilla from New Directions Aromatics? Their > price is significantly lower than anyone else, like by the thousands. > They do offer an msds. The other thing is they call it > an essential oil, but it technically is not. I am having a hard time > even getting a GC on vanilla from any other company... > I need 1.6 LBS of vanilla absolute. Any ideas who has it at a fair > price. > The stuff from New directions is a tincture not an absolute. The MSDS gives you a clue when it lists an alcohol content of 37%. Oh, and the MSDS lists a vanillin content of 1.7%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 > > Has anyone tried the vanilla from New Directions Aromatics? Their price is significantly lower > than anyone else, like by the thousands. They do offer an msds. The other thing is they call it > an essential oil, but it technically is not. I am having a hard time even getting a GC on vanilla > from any other company... > I need 1.6 LBS of vanilla absolute. Any ideas who has it at a fair price. > > MJ > Hi MJ, I was wondering about the New Directions vanilla too. Their MSDS says it contains 37% alcohol, could it be a vanilla extract? Perhaps you should ask their customer service before you order. Let us know what you find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:40 PM, wrote: > > > > > Has anyone tried the vanilla from New Directions Aromatics? T > > > > Hi MJ, > > I was wondering about the New Directions vanilla too. Their MSDS > says it contains 37% > alcohol, could it be a vanilla extract? Perhaps you should ask > their customer service > before you order. > > Let us know what you find out! > > , I did ask and they said that it was solvent extracted with a food grade solvent. Although not intended or recommended for ingestion. Not a mention that it was a tincture, and I specifically asked if it was an extract and she said no. hmmmm.... I did ask her to physically touch it and tell me what it felt like;) Any further ideas who might have 1.67 Lbs of vanilla absolute....by the first week in Jan? with a reasonable price? Does anyone have experience in buying vanilla in bulk? The search continues...... MJ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Has anyone tried the vanilla from New Directions Aromatics? Their price is significantly lower than anyone else, like by the thousands. They do offer an msds. The other thing is they call it an essential oil, but it technically is not. I am having a hard time even getting a GC on vanilla from any other company... I need 1.6 LBS of vanilla absolute. Any ideas who has it at a fair price. MJ Hi jo, The Good Scents Company lists vanilla absolute at something over $800 akilo, which sounds like a fair price to me. Don't know whether they have itin stock. I have ordered from them frequently and found them fair andreasonably priced. I have never had a complaint about the quality, either. The website is www.thegoodscentscompany.com <http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/> . Steve Steve Earl Glen Custom Perfumery 26 Applewood Lane Avon, CT 06001 (860) 424-7051 G-C-P@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Has anyone tried the vanilla from New Directions Aromatics? Their price is significantly lower than anyone else, like by the thousands. They do offer an msds. The other thing is they call it an essential oil, but it technically is not. I am having a hard time even getting a GC on vanilla from any other company... I need 1.6 LBS of vanilla absolute. Any ideas who has it at a fair price. MJ Hi again, Another vendor is Biolandes, a Grasse producer. Their website is www.biolandes.com <http://www.biolandes.com/> . I have spoken to them and gotten samples, but never bought from them. As I recall, their minimum order requirements would allow a purchase of 1.6 pounds of vanilla absolute. Steve Steve Earl Glen Custom Perfumery 26 Applewood Lane Avon, CT 06001 (860) 424-7051 G-C-P@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 , I called someone last night who is a member of this group, but lost in holiday preps, so I know she wasn't checking the messages lately. She has a lead on some vanilla CO2 from Ireland, and says it's gorgeous. I forget the price. I believe she has the GC on it, and she's pretty good with reading GCs. Isn't vanilla supposed to have a min 26% vanillin? I recently got samples from a french producer, and it's the most beautiful vanilla absolute I've ever smelled. $6500/kg, 100 gr minimum. There may be a coop on that in January. The co2, btw, doesn't turn perfumes or soaps, lotions, etc. brown. It will stay light or white. For the time being, from teh feedback here, you might want to be wary of ND, and ask lots of questions of them. > Anya http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Join to study natural perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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