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Actually, if you ever have the chance to watch cattle from birth, it is

usually at least a week or so after they are born before they start mimicing

their mother and starting to find out what grass or hay tastes like. I

learned this when we moved here. Up until we moved into this double wide

away from the cattle, they would come by the back fense every day, several

times a day. It was a good experience watching them. I miss it but not

enough to move back into that crowded trailer.

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> In a message dated 9/17/2004 9:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> tamaratornado@... writes:

> While grazing animals, to eat, they

> just bend their heads and chew the grass, nothing to think about,

> nothing that needs to be learned.

> Kinda like some of the people in this country.

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So Nina, explain why if meat protein is such a " cancer and tumor marker "

that for about 6,000 years men and women around the world have been eating

copious amounts of meat without any cancer, heart disease, or other diseases

that plaque this nation until the recent century? And that off the beaten

path islands that are still living the old way (without our typical SAD

diet) and eating lots and lots of meat still do not have any of these

diseases. Explain that one will ya? It's quite fine and dandy for you to

make no meat as your choice, I support your right to choice. But trying to

get us to believe the same thing? Your chances of success are slim to none,

why try? We're convinced meat is good, your convinced it's not and why don't

we just agree to disagree? And just concentrate on what we do agree on,

coconut oil! Yay! :)

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Weston Price, an American dendist of a century ago noted that

mouth structure and dentition seemed to be decaying compared wioth

people he had seen earlier in his career. So he went around the

world looking for indiginous peoples whpo has heathy mouths and no

degenerative diseases. Doctor Price and his wiofe took lots of

photos. What he discovered is that healthy people in many

different cultures with many varied diets were healthy and lived long.

He noted that these healthy people ate meat, fish, insects and

other non vegetarian foods. Not just a little bit here and therfe,

but as part of a varied and healthy diet. What seemed to cause the

degenerative problems in people was

sugar

white flour

jams, jellies

cookies

condensed milk

canned vegetables

pastries

refined grain products

margarine

vegetable oils

I suspect if this research were done today. the list would be

added to with

growth hormones in meat animals

antibiotics in meat animals

antibiotics in people

GM foods

MSG and fake flavorings

meat from animals fed GM grains

You can read about Dr.Price on Doc Mercola's website here:

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/weston_price.htm

Alobar

On 2/13/06, Caitlin Lorraine <secretariat88@...> wrote:

> So Nina, explain why if meat protein is such a " cancer and tumor marker "

> that for about 6,000 years men and women around the world have been eating

> copious amounts of meat without any cancer, heart disease, or other diseases

> that plaque this nation until the recent century? And that off the beaten

> path islands that are still living the old way (without our typical SAD

> diet) and eating lots and lots of meat still do not have any of these

> diseases. Explain that one will ya? It's quite fine and dandy for you to

> make no meat as your choice, I support your right to choice. But trying to

> get us to believe the same thing? Your chances of success are slim to none,

> why try? We're convinced meat is good, your convinced it's not and why don't

> we just agree to disagree? And just concentrate on what we do agree on,

> coconut oil! Yay! :)

>

>

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We have a link to the Weston price foudation in our files as well. It is full of

very valuable information.Our links have a large number of informationalsites to

explore.

Coconut Oil/links

http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html

There is also the Price Pottenger foundation (as in Pottingers cats

experiment)

http://www.price-pottenger.org/pottenger.html

IN NC

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Weston Price, an American dendist of a century ago noted that

mouth structure and dentition seemed to be decaying compared wioth

people he had seen earlier in his career. So he went around the

world looking for indiginous peoples whpo has heathy mouths and no

degenerative diseases. Doctor Price and his wiofe took lots of

photos. What he discovered is that healthy people in many

different cultures with many varied diets were healthy and lived long.

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My recollection is that in traditional human societies, the proportion of

vegetable to animal consumption is about from 4:1 to 5:1. Of course, there

are exceptions, like the Eskimo and the Masai. But I believe it's true in

most of Asia, Africa and South America, and my best info is that fossil

evidence shows this from the coprolites (fossilized feces).

As I remember, Bruce has a section in one of his books (Coconut Cures?)

about the outstanding health of an African community which he attributes to

a high-fiber diet. A high-fiber diet is, almost by definition, a high-plant

diet.

I tend to agree that refined food and junk food is probably the most

responsible for the most ill health in our society, not meat.

Nina

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So Nina, explain why if meat protein is such a " cancer and tumor marker "

that for about 6,000 years men and women around the world have been eating

copious amounts of meat without any cancer, heart disease, or other diseases

that plaque this nation until the recent century? And that off the beaten

path islands that are still living the old way (without our typical SAD

diet) and eating lots and lots of meat still do not have any of these

diseases. Explain that one will ya? It's quite fine and dandy for you to

make no meat as your choice, I support your right to choice. But trying to

get us to believe the same thing? Your chances of success are slim to none,

why try? We're convinced meat is good, your convinced it's not and why don't

we just agree to disagree? And just concentrate on what we do agree on,

coconut oil! Yay! :)

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I would define animal as anything that has a face. I would define

meat as animal tissue. Personally, I don't eat anything that has a face.

Carol

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>

> My brother in law was trying to tell me that fish is " the other

white meat " I told him no that fish isn't even always white. Well my

husband is trying to tell me that Fish isn't meat it's fish it's not

an animal as animals are mammals but I didn't think all animals were

mammals. even fruit has meat to it. hmm wonder what webster defines

meat as?

>

> the silly things you talk about waiting for a greecy headache to

make you sick at KFC. ( yeah it was one of those days :( LOL)

> Shalom

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A mammal is an animal that has a Mammary gland , i.e it feeds its young some

form of milk. (b.t.w this gland is a " modified sweat gland " )

There are other characteristics, however the Mammary gland is the key.

Whales and dolphins are also mammals

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Subject: meat

My brother in law was trying to tell me that fish is " the other white meat "

I told him no that fish isn't even always white. Well my husband is trying

to tell me that Fish isn't meat it's fish it's not an animal as animals are

mammals but I didn't think all animals were mammals. even fruit has meat to

it. hmm wonder what webster defines meat as?

the silly things you talk about waiting for a greecy headache to make you

sick at KFC. ( yeah it was one of those days :( LOL)

Shalom

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yeah I know that. ? I wasnt asking what a mammal is I was asking what you think

an animal is if you think fish is meat or fish.

Shalom

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My brother in law was trying to tell me that fish is " the other white meat "

I told him no that fish isn't even always white. Well my husband is trying

to tell me that Fish isn't meat it's fish it's not an animal as animals are

mammals but I didn't think all animals were mammals. even fruit has meat to

it. hmm wonder what webster defines meat as?

the silly things you talk about waiting for a greecy headache to make you

sick at KFC. ( yeah it was one of those days :( LOL)

Shalom

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Fish is meat. Fishmeat. Meat is described as the flesh of animals.

Fish are vertebrate animals. A living being. What else would you

classify it as? It's not a plant. It's not a mineral. Why is there

confusion?

Carol

www.bluegreensolutions.com

>

> yeah I know that. ? I wasnt asking what a mammal is I was asking

what you think an animal is if you think fish is meat or fish.

> Shalom

>

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because my husband is silly. i consider it meat as well, he just calls it fish.

LOL

Shalom

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Fish is meat. Fishmeat. Meat is described as the flesh of animals.

Fish are vertebrate animals. A living being. What else would you

classify it as? It's not a plant. It's not a mineral. Why is there

confusion?

Carol

www.bluegreensolutions.com

>

> yeah I know that. ? I wasnt asking what a mammal is I was asking

what you think an animal is if you think fish is meat or fish.

> Shalom

>

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Many years ago, I was taught as a kid that there were two " kingdoms " ,

the animal kingdom and the vegetable kingdom. Since that time,

scientists began to make a distinction between green plants with

chlorophyl, and mushrooms, yeast, and bacteria, which do not. Others

talk about distinctions between complex multi-cellular organisms, and

the simple one-celled critters. Some classify viruses as being in

their own kingdom.

So the vegetable kingdom may really be much more complex than I was

told as a kid. But animals are everything not in the vegetable

kingdom. This includes not only mammals, but birds, reptiles, fish,

octopusses, insects, as well as creatures like the Sea anemone (not to

be confused by the flower, anemone), coral, and other critters I would

never think of as food.

Alobar

On 10/17/07, Shalom <Sstuck@...> wrote:

> My brother in law was trying to tell me that fish is " the other white meat " I

told him no that fish isn't even always white. Well my husband is trying to tell

me that Fish isn't meat it's fish it's not an animal as animals are mammals but

I didn't think all animals were mammals. even fruit has meat to it. hmm wonder

what webster defines meat as?

>

> the silly things you talk about waiting for a greecy headache to make you sick

at KFC. ( yeah it was one of those days :( LOL)

> Shalom

>

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Where on earth did you get the idea that 100 grams was one ounce? 100 grams is actuall 3.5 ounces.

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I have a question, how many ounces of meat do ya'll eat at one meal ?I have seen post, saying they eat 3 ounces. I have only been eating 1ounce at each meal , if we can have 3 that would be absolutely lovely. Thanks, Bonnie

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In a message dated 5/23/2010 4:02:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lsavage@... writes:

but I still need the help of the Vitamix to help me speed up the masticating process when I'm doing shows.

I actually love the flavor of the meat (sometimes I use chicken) in my "Green Tortilla Soup".

All of that is to say that you CAN blend up your meat if you want to...

In fact, I was in a hurry again today and wanted to make the cream of kale recipe in the Eat Right America guide. I added my beef to the cream sauce because! To be honest, I have a tooth that catches meat and I haven't fixed that tooth yet and lately I'm just preferring to liquify my meat when I can work it in to a recipe!

Blessings,Lea Ann Savage

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I do have to exercise my swallowing technique due to the radiation so chewing and swallowing is a must BUT I have steered clear of meats (especially chicken because it is so dry with saliva production).....unless the meat is cooked in a stew, soup and is cut very small, then I can tolerate it....

This group has been a blessing that dropped right into my lap (laptop!) ~ there are MANY options that I am learning!

Without saliva, you can ONLY imagine that every particle that I eat needs to be flossed between each tooth and brushing constantly fearing that some day the radiation will take it's toll on my enamel and will have NO teeth left....it's been one year since my last radiation treatment for my head and neck cancer (actually base of tongue, Stage IV inoperable) and already have been to the dentist for repairs a few times.....

My goal is to get proper nutrients to help with the exhaustion that I feel each day....and hopefully WARD off any cancer cells in my body after having my double mastectomy AFTER I finished my treatment for the head and neck....it hasn't been a picnic but I am still alive to tell everyone something very important ~ I had 5 different tests that did not show my breast cancer (mammogram, ultrasound, MRI, CT scan, PET/CT scan and clinical exam)....so, KNOW your own breasts as I didn't even have a lump ~ my skin was involved and a biopsy proved the beast that was sneaky and hiding! My first cancer was 12 years ago (different type) of breast cancer and only had a lumpectomy back then....this time, I wanted both off for added insurance....

Sorry to get off topic.....

Thanks Lea Ann ~ love your suggestions and I will have to make the asparagus soup to use up those cans!.... :)

What is the Eat Right American Guide by the way?

:) Janice

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Hello,

I am wondering if eating all this meat is good for the body? Last night I had

lamb chops for a snack and (well, lamb is very greasy). Couldn't think of

anything else to eat that wasn't a lot of work.

Just wondering if you can go overboard eating too much meat?

Gosh, thinking of meals is a stresser for me - big time.

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> Hello,

> I am wondering if eating all this meat is good for the body? Last night I had

lamb chops for a snack and (well, lamb is very greasy). Couldn't think of

anything else to eat that wasn't a lot of work.

>

> Just wondering if you can go overboard eating too much meat?

>

> Gosh, thinking of meals is a stresser for me - big time.

+++Hi ina,

We've been discussing that issue this week, so that's why it is a good idea to

read messages on the group. It also keeps you up-to-date with my most recent

research.

Of course eating meat is good for you! Look at your arm. What is it made up

of? Meat, fat, bone, and fluids, i.e. blood, etc. just like all animals.

Also the healthiest isolated people on Earth that Dr. Weston A. Price studied

were the Eskimos and the Masai Tribe in Africa and their diets were only meats

and fats - see these articles:

Eskimos Prove An All Meat Diet Provides Excellent Health:

http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm

Healthy Diet – High Meat and Fat by Masai Warriors

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods26.php

The important thing is to eat enough good fats along with protein. The Eskimos

ate 80% fat to 20% meat. Butterfat consumption among Masai warriors, who

consider vegetable foods as fodder for cattle, can reach one and one half pounds

per day. Yet these people do not suffer from heart disease.

That's why my program is high good fats and low carbs, so it is important to

calculate your ratios according to my main candida article.

The best in health, Bee

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