Apple Cider Vinegar

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Actually Bonnie, the vinegar works without the baking soda.

zoe

Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 6:41:05 PM, you wrote:

> Of course Apple Cider Vinegar will work if you add Baking Soda to it.

> Baking Soda is THE THING for Acidity and might even work without the vinegar.

> Bonnie

>

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I've read that, too, that the ACV by itself will work. But this Ted

guy, who's quite a regular on that one site I mentioned, said the

baking soda helps to make ACV less acidic and a little more alkaline.

All I know is it worked for me, thank goodness. I was NOT too crazy

about having to take Prilosec everyday. No way!

ACV may taste lousy (I've never been a fan of vinegar of any kind),

but it's a LOT cheaper and better for you. So I'll take the lousy

taste any day.

Cryss

> > Of course Apple Cider Vinegar will work if you add Baking Soda

to it.

>

> > Baking Soda is THE THING for Acidity and might even work without

the vinegar.

>

> > Bonnie

>

> >

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I heard that baking soda is very bad for you. I think it said something about

hardening the

arteries???

--- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Of course Apple Cider Vinegar will work if you add Baking Soda to it.

>

> Baking Soda is THE THING for Acidity and might even work without the vinegar.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

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My doctor told me to do my sinus flush with 1 teaspoon of white vinegar mixed in it, which I have been doing for the past few days. I am very interested in what you have found... Dana Preis <danapreis@...> wrote: All, I have a somewhat long story to tell but I think it may be relevant. As many of you know I have been writing to the group for a couple of months now. As far as my condition goes I started becoming symptomatic in Feb 2004. My wife and I were in Arizona on the Apache Trail, we stopped to get

something to eat and I realized I couldn't taste the chili!! At the time I attributed it to fact that I had just taken an airplane trip and thought that it had messed up my sinuses temporariliy. At that time I was 47 years old. Anyway, over the last 3 years it has become apparent that I have Samter's. Although I don't have Asthma per se, I am very aspirin sensitive and have nasal polyps/chronic sinusitis/anosmia. I do a ton of reading about this and as I'm sure you will all agree, nothing out there is very conclusive. Currently my medicine in Nasarel spray, loratadine, and saline rinses. I was taking Singulair for over a year but it doesn't seem to make any difference. The Nasarel (prescribed by the UCONN Smell and Taste Clinic who did a work-up on me last year) works much better for me than the other sprays I've tried (nasonex, rhinocort, flonase). Anyway, where am I going with this? Family history. My maternal

grandfather, Mendel, who died at the age of 91, was a health nut. He ate health foods and walked 5 miles a day until he was 90. The story behind this was when he was in his 40's he got very sick and developed Asthma (this was around 1940 when aspirin was very popular). He went on a strict regimen at that time of eating lots of raw foods and drinking disgusting things like apple cider vinegar with honey diluted in water. He swore by the vinegar & honey and always said it was the key ingredient to restoring his health. I also know that he used to "sniff salt water" daily, but he didn't take any medicines(he didn't go to doctors), only vitamin and mineral supplements. I suspect that he had Samters and that I inherited the condition from him.My mother did not have Samters; perhaps she merely passed it down to me. So yesterday I was reading Mike's response to one of

you and he says the thing about how sometimes if you open an aspirin bottle it smells like vinegar. A bell rings in my head and I decide to do a search on nasal polyps and apple cider vinegar. So far I've found this: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=136709 My grandfather got the Vinegar and Honey thing from a doctor named Jarvis and I've found this about his recipe: http://www.doctoryourself.com/honey.html If you read some of this stuff, the relative acidity/alkalinity of the body is mentioned. Coincidentally, I had a work-up this year by a naturopathic chiropractor who said my system is a bit too alkaline. At the time I didn't think anything of it. Anyway, I don't know if any of this means anything. Obviously,

everything that I'm writing about is anecdotal. I feel like if I can find more pieces of the puzzle than maybe I'll be on to something. I'm going to try the vinegar and honey thing. I'll get back to you with the results of my trial. Bottoms up! Dana

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My reply to this is that I believe Asthma was on my mothers side and that my

grandmother suffered from asthma.Also this lady lived a long life ,98

years.She had a vegetable garden and ate a lot of fresh lettuce adding

vinegar mostly as a dressing.Vinegar I believe is antifungal ,and I have

seen the previous reference to Tricophyton.Probably on the right tract.

>From: Dana Preis <danapreis@...>

>Reply-samters

>samters

>Subject: Apple Cider Vinegar

>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:38:37 -0700 (PDT)

>

>All, I have a somewhat long story to tell but I think it may be relevant.

>As many of you know I have been writing to the group for a couple of months

>now. As far as my condition goes I started becoming symptomatic in Feb

>2004. My wife and I were in Arizona on the Apache Trail, we stopped to get

>something to eat and I realized I couldn't taste the chili!! At the time I

>attributed it to fact that I had just taken an airplane trip and thought

>that it had messed up my sinuses temporariliy. At that time I was 47 years

>old. Anyway, over the last 3 years it has become apparent that I have

>Samter's. Although I don't have Asthma per se, I am very aspirin sensitive

>and have nasal polyps/chronic sinusitis/anosmia. I do a ton of reading

>about this and as I'm sure you will all agree, nothing out there is very

>conclusive. Currently my medicine in Nasarel spray, loratadine, and saline

>rinses. I was taking Singulair for over a year but it doesn't seem to make

>any difference. The Nasarel

> (prescribed by the UCONN Smell and Taste Clinic who did a work-up on me

>last year) works much better for me than the other sprays I've tried

>(nasonex, rhinocort, flonase).

>

> Anyway, where am I going with this? Family history. My maternal

>grandfather, Mendel, who died at the age of 91, was a health nut. He ate

>health foods and walked 5 miles a day until he was 90. The story behind

>this was when he was in his 40's he got very sick and developed Asthma

>(this was around 1940 when aspirin was very popular). He went on a strict

>regimen at that time of eating lots of raw foods and drinking disgusting

>things like apple cider vinegar with honey diluted in water. He swore by

>the vinegar & honey and always said it was the key ingredient to restoring

>his health. I also know that he used to " sniff salt water " daily, but he

>didn't take any medicines(he didn't go to doctors), only vitamin and

>mineral supplements. I suspect that he had Samters and that I inherited the

>condition from him.My mother did not have Samters; perhaps she merely

>passed it down to me.

>

> So yesterday I was reading Mike's response to one of you and he says the

>thing about how sometimes if you open an aspirin bottle it smells like

>vinegar. A bell rings in my head and I decide to do a search on nasal

>polyps and apple cider vinegar. So far I've found this:

>

> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=136709

>

> My grandfather got the Vinegar and Honey thing from a doctor named

>Jarvis and I've found this about his recipe:

>http://www.doctoryourself.com/honey.html

>

> If you read some of this stuff, the relative acidity/alkalinity of the

>body is mentioned. Coincidentally, I had a work-up this year by a

>naturopathic chiropractor who said my system is a bit too alkaline. At the

>time I didn't think anything of it.

>

> Anyway, I don't know if any of this means anything. Obviously,

>everything that I'm writing about is anecdotal. I feel like if I can find

>more pieces of the puzzle than maybe I'll be on to something. I'm going to

>try the vinegar and honey thing. I'll get back to you with the results of

>my trial.

>

> Bottoms up! Dana

>

>

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My own mother used to take the vinegar/honey mixture but she claimed

it was to reduce calcium deposits and ease her arthritis. At 87, when

she passed, she was still pretty mobile. I don't really know whether

it actually worked or not, but she definitely believed it did and I

think that alone goes a long way towards comfort with any treatment.

>

> My reply to this is that I believe Asthma was on my mothers side and

that my

> grandmother suffered from asthma.Also this lady lived a long life ,98

> years.She had a vegetable garden and ate a lot of fresh lettuce adding

> vinegar mostly as a dressing.Vinegar I believe is antifungal ,and I

have

> seen the previous reference to Tricophyton.Probably on the right tract.

>

> >From: Dana Preis <danapreis@...>

> >Reply-samters

> >samters

> >Subject: Apple Cider Vinegar

> >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:38:37 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >All, I have a somewhat long story to tell but I think it may be

relevant.

> >As many of you know I have been writing to the group for a couple

of months

> >now. As far as my condition goes I started becoming symptomatic in Feb

> >2004. My wife and I were in Arizona on the Apache Trail, we stopped

to get

> >something to eat and I realized I couldn't taste the chili!! At the

time I

> >attributed it to fact that I had just taken an airplane trip and

thought

> >that it had messed up my sinuses temporariliy. At that time I was

47 years

> >old. Anyway, over the last 3 years it has become apparent that I have

> >Samter's. Although I don't have Asthma per se, I am very aspirin

sensitive

> >and have nasal polyps/chronic sinusitis/anosmia. I do a ton of reading

> >about this and as I'm sure you will all agree, nothing out there is

very

> >conclusive. Currently my medicine in Nasarel spray, loratadine, and

saline

> >rinses. I was taking Singulair for over a year but it doesn't seem

to make

> >any difference. The Nasarel

> > (prescribed by the UCONN Smell and Taste Clinic who did a work-up

on me

> >last year) works much better for me than the other sprays I've tried

> >(nasonex, rhinocort, flonase).

> >

> > Anyway, where am I going with this? Family history. My maternal

> >grandfather, Mendel, who died at the age of 91, was a health nut.

He ate

> >health foods and walked 5 miles a day until he was 90. The story

behind

> >this was when he was in his 40's he got very sick and developed Asthma

> >(this was around 1940 when aspirin was very popular). He went on a

strict

> >regimen at that time of eating lots of raw foods and drinking

disgusting

> >things like apple cider vinegar with honey diluted in water. He

swore by

> >the vinegar & honey and always said it was the key ingredient to

restoring

> >his health. I also know that he used to " sniff salt water " daily,

but he

> >didn't take any medicines(he didn't go to doctors), only vitamin and

> >mineral supplements. I suspect that he had Samters and that I

inherited the

> >condition from him.My mother did not have Samters; perhaps she merely

> >passed it down to me.

> >

> > So yesterday I was reading Mike's response to one of you and he

says the

> >thing about how sometimes if you open an aspirin bottle it smells like

> >vinegar. A bell rings in my head and I decide to do a search on nasal

> >polyps and apple cider vinegar. So far I've found this:

> >

> > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=136709

> >

> > My grandfather got the Vinegar and Honey thing from a doctor named

> >Jarvis and I've found this about his recipe:

> >http://www.doctoryourself.com/honey.html

> >

> > If you read some of this stuff, the relative acidity/alkalinity

of the

> >body is mentioned. Coincidentally, I had a work-up this year by a

> >naturopathic chiropractor who said my system is a bit too alkaline.

At the

> >time I didn't think anything of it.

> >

> > Anyway, I don't know if any of this means anything. Obviously,

> >everything that I'm writing about is anecdotal. I feel like if I

can find

> >more pieces of the puzzle than maybe I'll be on to something. I'm

going to

> >try the vinegar and honey thing. I'll get back to you with the

results of

> >my trial.

> >

> > Bottoms up! Dana

> >

> >

>

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Hello All,

I have a couple things to add. Apple Cider Vinegar is very different than

regular white

vinegar but it is VERY good for us.It is good for everything from digestion to

allergies to

helping your liver. It works best when you mix it with honey which makes it a

better

detoxifier. I have not been taking it for a while but I did an experiment a

while ago and

took it 2 times a day and my polyps did shrink signifigantly. I have been

meaning to start

it again. If you google it you will see it is great. Also, it helps with

promoting alkalinity in

the body (despite that it is acidic) which is good for us. I have been doing

some research

on acidic/alkaline and it is believed that inflammtion occurs only in an acidic

environment

therfore keeping ourselves less acidic can help. I am going to start back on

drinking it

twice a day. It is great.

> >

> > My reply to this is that I believe Asthma was on my mothers side and

> that my

> > grandmother suffered from asthma.Also this lady lived a long life ,98

> > years.She had a vegetable garden and ate a lot of fresh lettuce adding

> > vinegar mostly as a dressing.Vinegar I believe is antifungal ,and I

> have

> > seen the previous reference to Tricophyton.Probably on the right tract.

> >

> > >From: Dana Preis <danapreis@>

> > >Reply-samters

> > >samters

> > >Subject: Apple Cider Vinegar

> > >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:38:37 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >All, I have a somewhat long story to tell but I think it may be

> relevant.

> > >As many of you know I have been writing to the group for a couple

> of months

> > >now. As far as my condition goes I started becoming symptomatic in Feb

> > >2004. My wife and I were in Arizona on the Apache Trail, we stopped

> to get

> > >something to eat and I realized I couldn't taste the chili!! At the

> time I

> > >attributed it to fact that I had just taken an airplane trip and

> thought

> > >that it had messed up my sinuses temporariliy. At that time I was

> 47 years

> > >old. Anyway, over the last 3 years it has become apparent that I have

> > >Samter's. Although I don't have Asthma per se, I am very aspirin

> sensitive

> > >and have nasal polyps/chronic sinusitis/anosmia. I do a ton of reading

> > >about this and as I'm sure you will all agree, nothing out there is

> very

> > >conclusive. Currently my medicine in Nasarel spray, loratadine, and

> saline

> > >rinses. I was taking Singulair for over a year but it doesn't seem

> to make

> > >any difference. The Nasarel

> > > (prescribed by the UCONN Smell and Taste Clinic who did a work-up

> on me

> > >last year) works much better for me than the other sprays I've tried

> > >(nasonex, rhinocort, flonase).

> > >

> > > Anyway, where am I going with this? Family history. My maternal

> > >grandfather, Mendel, who died at the age of 91, was a health nut.

> He ate

> > >health foods and walked 5 miles a day until he was 90. The story

> behind

> > >this was when he was in his 40's he got very sick and developed Asthma

> > >(this was around 1940 when aspirin was very popular). He went on a

> strict

> > >regimen at that time of eating lots of raw foods and drinking

> disgusting

> > >things like apple cider vinegar with honey diluted in water. He

> swore by

> > >the vinegar & honey and always said it was the key ingredient to

> restoring

> > >his health. I also know that he used to " sniff salt water " daily,

> but he

> > >didn't take any medicines(he didn't go to doctors), only vitamin and

> > >mineral supplements. I suspect that he had Samters and that I

> inherited the

> > >condition from him.My mother did not have Samters; perhaps she merely

> > >passed it down to me.

> > >

> > > So yesterday I was reading Mike's response to one of you and he

> says the

> > >thing about how sometimes if you open an aspirin bottle it smells like

> > >vinegar. A bell rings in my head and I decide to do a search on nasal

> > >polyps and apple cider vinegar. So far I've found this:

> > >

> > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=136709

> > >

> > > My grandfather got the Vinegar and Honey thing from a doctor named

> > >Jarvis and I've found this about his recipe:

> > >http://www.doctoryourself.com/honey.html

> > >

> > > If you read some of this stuff, the relative acidity/alkalinity

> of the

> > >body is mentioned. Coincidentally, I had a work-up this year by a

> > >naturopathic chiropractor who said my system is a bit too alkaline.

> At the

> > >time I didn't think anything of it.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I don't know if any of this means anything. Obviously,

> > >everything that I'm writing about is anecdotal. I feel like if I

> can find

> > >more pieces of the puzzle than maybe I'll be on to something. I'm

> going to

> > >try the vinegar and honey thing. I'll get back to you with the

> results of

> > >my trial.

> > >

> > > Bottoms up! Dana

> > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks . It seems that there me be something here. I started taking it yesterday and it's obviously too early to tell but so far I actually feel I little clearer sinus-wise today. I cannot tell you how adamant my grandfather was about taking this concoction. I think he mentioned it nearly every time I saw him....elliecub <elliecub@...> wrote: Hello All, I have a couple things to add. Apple Cider Vinegar is very different than regular white vinegar but it is VERY good for us.It is good for everything from

digestion to allergies to helping your liver. It works best when you mix it with honey which makes it a better detoxifier. I have not been taking it for a while but I did an experiment a while ago and took it 2 times a day and my polyps did shrink signifigantly. I have been meaning to start it again. If you google it you will see it is great. Also, it helps with promoting alkalinity in the body (despite that it is acidic) which is good for us. I have been doing some research on acidic/alkaline and it is believed that inflammtion occurs only in an acidic environment therfore keeping ourselves less acidic can help. I am going to start back on drinking it twice a day. It is great. > > > > My reply to this is that I believe Asthma was on my mothers side and > that my > > grandmother suffered from asthma.Also this lady lived a long life ,98 > > years.She had a vegetable garden and ate a lot of fresh lettuce adding > > vinegar mostly as a dressing.Vinegar I believe is antifungal ,and I > have > > seen the previous reference to Tricophyton.Probably on the right tract. > > > > >From: Dana Preis

<danapreis@> > > >Reply-samters > > >samters > > >Subject: Apple Cider Vinegar > > >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:38:37 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >All, I have a somewhat long story to tell but I think it may be > relevant. > > >As many of you know I have been writing to the group for a couple > of months > > >now. As far as my condition goes I started becoming symptomatic in Feb > > >2004. My wife and I were in Arizona on the Apache Trail, we stopped > to get > > >something to eat and I realized I couldn't taste the chili!! At the > time I > > >attributed it to fact that I had just taken an airplane trip and > thought > > >that it

had messed up my sinuses temporariliy. At that time I was > 47 years > > >old. Anyway, over the last 3 years it has become apparent that I have > > >Samter's. Although I don't have Asthma per se, I am very aspirin > sensitive > > >and have nasal polyps/chronic sinusitis/anosmia. I do a ton of reading > > >about this and as I'm sure you will all agree, nothing out there is > very > > >conclusive. Currently my medicine in Nasarel spray, loratadine, and > saline > > >rinses. I was taking Singulair for over a year but it doesn't seem > to make > > >any difference. The Nasarel > > > (prescribed by the UCONN Smell and Taste Clinic who did a work-up > on me > > >last year) works much better for me than the other sprays I've tried > > >(nasonex, rhinocort, flonase). > > > > >

> Anyway, where am I going with this? Family history. My maternal > > >grandfather, Mendel, who died at the age of 91, was a health nut. > He ate > > >health foods and walked 5 miles a day until he was 90. The story > behind > > >this was when he was in his 40's he got very sick and developed Asthma > > >(this was around 1940 when aspirin was very popular). He went on a > strict > > >regimen at that time of eating lots of raw foods and drinking > disgusting > > >things like apple cider vinegar with honey diluted in water. He > swore by > > >the vinegar & honey and always said it was the key ingredient to > restoring > > >his health. I also know that he used to "sniff salt water" daily, > but he > > >didn't take any medicines(he didn't go to doctors), only vitamin and > >

>mineral supplements. I suspect that he had Samters and that I > inherited the > > >condition from him.My mother did not have Samters; perhaps she merely > > >passed it down to me. > > > > > > So yesterday I was reading Mike's response to one of you and he > says the > > >thing about how sometimes if you open an aspirin bottle it smells like > > >vinegar. A bell rings in my head and I decide to do a search on nasal > > >polyps and apple cider vinegar. So far I've found this: > > > > > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=136709 > > > > > > My grandfather got the Vinegar and Honey thing from a doctor named > > >Jarvis and I've found this about his recipe: > > >http://www.doctoryourself.com/honey.html > > > > > > If you read some of this stuff, the relative acidity/alkalinity > of the > > >body is mentioned. Coincidentally, I had a work-up this year by a > > >naturopathic chiropractor who said my system is a bit too alkaline. > At the > > >time I didn't think anything of it. > > > > > > Anyway, I don't know if any of this means anything. Obviously, > > >everything that I'm writing about is anecdotal. I feel like if I > can find > > >more pieces of the puzzle than maybe I'll be on to something. I'm > going to > > >try the vinegar and honey thing. I'll get back to you with the > results of > > >my trial. > > > > > > Bottoms up! Dana > >

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yes you can have it on page 94 it list the herbs, seasonings you can have and organic raw apple cider vinegar is listed

Apple Cider Vinegar

Does anyone know if it is ok to have apple cider vinegar during phase 2? I've been putting a little bit on my lettuce and I've noticed that my weight has stayed the same for two days. Could this be why? Thanks for your help.

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as long as it is Organic its ok why don't you try Braggs Aminos as

well you can get it from the health food store

>

> Does anyone know if it is ok to have apple cider vinegar during

phase

> 2? I've been putting a little bit on my lettuce and I've noticed

that

> my weight has stayed the same for two days. Could this be why?

Thanks

> for your help.

>

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Hi, I ate apple cider vinegar, its definately okay and is mentioned

in KT's book as okay in phase 2. I lived on it mixed it with

everything. It makes a great dressing if you mix a pack of stevia, a

little garlic powder. I put it on fish, chicken, beef and salad,

cucumbers, asparagus. Eat and enjoy. As you know if you don't lose by

the fourth day you can do the apple protocol, which is 6 small apples

all day and a small amount of water. Keep you liquids down. You'll

have a big drop from that. Again its in KT's book. Sometimes for now

apparent reason things may slow down a bit. Don't worry be happy and

remember, Nothing Tastes as Good As Thin Feels! Keep on losing! Sharon

> >

> > Does anyone know if it is ok to have apple cider vinegar during

> phase

> > 2? I've been putting a little bit on my lettuce and I've noticed

> that

> > my weight has stayed the same for two days. Could this be why?

> Thanks

> > for your help.

> >

>

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> I have acid refulx and don;t know what

> it would do to me so I'm holding back on that one for the time being

> since I could't bear to be any worse.

Note that the treatment of acid reflux can be a bit counter-intuitive.

Usually this is not caused by excessive acid in the stomach, but rather

inadequate acid in the stomach to digest your food, so the food does

not digest properly and then the reflux is caused by the improperly

digested food. Therefore, something like apple cider vinegar

(or alternately Betaine HCL) actually can improve acid reflux,

even those these things are both acidic.

And if you don't like the taste of apple cider vinegar, mix it

with some honey.

Marc

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Hi Marc

 

I reckon you are absolutely right about this - I have been reading similar stuff

to this on the net on a couple of places. My doc had prescribed 2 sets of

antacids without doing any sort of testing to see whether I had too much or too

little acid and I tried both of them and have decided to come off them of my own

volition because everything I read about them was negative. So I will give the

ACV a go [with the honey] and also some Aloe Vera and see what happens!

 

BW

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 11:40 PM

> I have acid refulx and don;t know what

> it would do to me so I'm holding back on that one for the time being

> since I could't bear to be any worse.

Note that the treatment of acid reflux can be a bit counter-intuitive.

Usually this is not caused by excessive acid in the stomach, but rather

inadequate acid in the stomach to digest your food, so the food does

not digest properly and then the reflux is caused by the improperly

digested food. Therefore, something like apple cider vinegar

(or alternately Betaine HCL) actually can improve acid reflux,

even those these things are both acidic.

And if you don't like the taste of apple cider vinegar, mix it

with some honey.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Something has just occurred to me Marc but did I read a post here from someone

on ACV who said that it can deplete a body of iodine and leave them iodine

deficient/hypothyroid? That would be something I would want to avoid since I

already suspect thyroid problems, so do you know of anything else which would do

the same job as ACV re Acid refulx without the complications of iodine

deficiency??

 

BW

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

Date: Sunday, 16 November, 2008, 11:40 PM

> I have acid refulx and don;t know what

> it would do to me so I'm holding back on that one for the time being

> since I could't bear to be any worse.

Note that the treatment of acid reflux can be a bit counter-intuitive.

Usually this is not caused by excessive acid in the stomach, but rather

inadequate acid in the stomach to digest your food, so the food does

not digest properly and then the reflux is caused by the improperly

digested food. Therefore, something like apple cider vinegar

(or alternately Betaine HCL) actually can improve acid reflux,

even those these things are both acidic.

And if you don't like the taste of apple cider vinegar, mix it

with some honey.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Something has just occurred to me Marc but did I read a post here from

> someone on ACV who said that it can deplete a body of iodine and leave

> them iodine deficient/hypothyroid?

That was me who said that. I based that on something I had read

elsewhere on the net and my own personal experiences.

> That would be something I would want

> to avoid since I already suspect thyroid problems, so do you know of

> anything else which would do the same job as ACV re Acid refulx without

> the complications of iodine deficiency??

To avoid the acid reflux, what you're trying to do is improve

the digestion of food in your stomach. Apple

Cider Vinegar would help with this because it is so acidic.

However, you can achieve the same effect with a Betaine HCL

supplement (hydrochloric acid), or possibly with a digestive

enzyme product. I use a product which contains both

Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes. But I was doing this

to avoid gas/bloating... acid reflux is not something

I've had a problem with.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marc - I'll search some more on the net, and I had been thinking myself

of digestiv enzymes but I'm interested in the formulation  you are taking with

the Brtaine HCL and enzymes combined. Can I ask is that a fairly standard

product you can get in a health fod store or is it a specific product? 

 

Apologies [to all on the forum] for asking what must seem like this barage of

questions on this subhject, but if I coudl get help with this it would go a long

way to alleviating the worst 50% of my symtoms

 

Many thanks

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 10:10 PM

> Something has just occurred to me Marc but did I read a post here from

> someone on ACV who said that it can deplete a body of iodine and leave

> them iodine deficient/hypothyro id?

That was me who said that. I based that on something I had read

elsewhere on the net and my own personal experiences.

> That would be something I would want

> to avoid since I already suspect thyroid problems, so do you know of

> anything else which would do the same job as ACV re Acid refulx without

> the complications of iodine deficiency??

To avoid the acid reflux, what you're trying to do is improve

the digestion of food in your stomach. Apple

Cider Vinegar would help with this because it is so acidic.

However, you can achieve the same effect with a Betaine HCL

supplement (hydrochloric acid), or possibly with a digestive

enzyme product. I use a product which contains both

Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes. But I was doing this

to avoid gas/bloating. .. acid reflux is not something

I've had a problem with.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Can I ask is that a fairly standard product you can get

> in a health food store or is it a specific product?

I've been going to alternative health doctors for so many

years that I now tend to only purchase " professional "

supplements which cannot be found in health food stores,

(although there are a few places you get them online).

In this case, I'm using a supplement from Standard

Process called " Zypan " :

http://www.standardprocess.com/display/StandardProcessCatalog.spi?ID=164

It's a good product, but you may also find something

that works well for you in your local health food

store.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Many many thanks Marc - this is really helpful - thanks also to Ada!

 

BW

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 10:28 PM

> Can I ask is that a fairly standard product you can get

> in a health food store or is it a specific product?

I've been going to alternative health doctors for so many

years that I now tend to only purchase " professional "

supplements which cannot be found in health food stores,

(although there are a few places you get them online).

In this case, I'm using a supplement from Standard

Process called " Zypan " :

http://www.standard process.com/ display/Standard ProcessCatalog. spi?ID=164

It's a good product, but you may also find something

that works well for you in your local health food

store.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Ada

 

Did a little reaearch re ACV and hypoclorhydria [condit where you have too

little stomach acid as opposed to too much] and came across a report on this by

Dr Myhill [ME/CFS Dr with an online site in UK] - she does credit AVC as

one of the natural ways to combat this problem but says in an aside that the AVC

can cause yeast - I'd be inclined to take her word, although that doesn't seem

to square up with the prospect that it can help with candida so I might email

her on this - just thought I'd pass this on

 

BW

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 10:28 PM

> Can I ask is that a fairly standard product you can get

> in a health food store or is it a specific product?

I've been going to alternative health doctors for so many

years that I now tend to only purchase " professional "

supplements which cannot be found in health food stores,

(although there are a few places you get them online).

In this case, I'm using a supplement from Standard

Process called " Zypan " :

http://www.standard process.com/ display/Standard ProcessCatalog. spi?ID=164

It's a good product, but you may also find something

that works well for you in your local health food

store.

Marc

[Guest guest]

what ive read is that if you have candida already it tends to make things worse.

 

Ada

" Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have

Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night. "

unknown

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: apple cider vinegar

groups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, 17 November, 2008, 10:28 PM

> Can I ask is that a fairly standard product you can get

> in a health food store or is it a specific product?

I've been going to alternative health doctors for so many

years that I now tend to only purchase " professional "

supplements which cannot be found in health food stores,

(although there are a few places you get them online).

In this case, I'm using a supplement from Standard

Process called " Zypan " :

http://www.standard process.com/ display/Standard ProcessCatalog. spi?ID=164

It's a good product, but you may also find something

that works well for you in your local health food

store.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Is it ok to use Apple Cider Vinegar instead of garlic or Pau D'arco for a

douche? I know some people can't drink it, but this use might be different.

April

[Guest guest]

I've been using this brand, which I found in my local health food store in

Bristol:

http://www.ostlerscidermill.co.uk/acatalog/1_Litre_Natural_Apple_Cider_Vinegar_B\

ottle.html

It has the " mother " in it & is also unpasturised.

x

>

> Didn't know if anyone knew of this link - Apple cider vinegar is supposed to

be best when it has the 'mother' still in it - most ACV available in the shops

have been filtered.

[Guest guest]

The Apple Cider Vinegar from the link I posted is organic, raw unpasturised with

the 'mother' still in. So does the job nicely. For us in the UK - it's

supporting our local cider apple orchards. Great to have a choice.

>

> Here is a link on Amazon UK

> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bragg-Organic-Vinegar-Mother-Raw-Unfiltered/dp/B001A

> IWAAE

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> It's the RAW, organic vinegar which Dr Jarvis wants us to take:

>

> http://www.vitacost.com/Bragg-Organic-Raw-Apple-Cider-Vinegar?csrc=GPF-07430

> 5001321

> <http://www.vitacost.com/Bragg-Organic-Raw-Apple-Cider-Vinegar?csrc=GPF-0743

> 05001321 & ci_src=14110944 & ci_sku=074305001321>

> & ci_src=14110944 & ci_sku=074305001321

>

> Cheers,

> JOT

>

> ,___

>