Re post: danger of the optimal diet?

[Guest guest]

I recommended your program and the optimal diet to my local wapf group and got

this:

Those of you who are interested in the Optimal Diet, might want to take a look

at the following to determine what level of carbohydrate restriction might be

safest: Dangers of Zero-Carb Diets, II: Mucus Deficiency and Gastrointestinal

Cancers:

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1077

Your thoughts on this?

Hi Wanda,

Perfect Health claims that Zero-Carb Diets Can Induce Mucus Deficiency.

First, they claim they were doing a Zero-Carb diet, but their diet was

definitely not Zero-Carbs. The husband writes: " I ate a high-vegetable but

extremely low-carb diet from December 2005 to January 2008. At the time I

thought I was getting about 300 carb calories a day, but I now consider this to

have been a zero-carb diet, since I don't believe carb calories are available

from most vegetables. "

So it is obvious they do not understand what Carbs are, and that they are all

plant foods, including vegetables.

They write: " Vegetable carbs are mostly consumed by gut bacteria, whose

assistance we need to break down vegetable matter, or by intestinal cells which

consume glucose during digestion. "

They also do not understand that all carbs contain fibers (called cellulose),

which is the cell wall of all plant foods that Humans are unable to digest,

which is why the body must create bacteria in order to break them down. Raw

Versus Cooked Carbs (all plant foods) explains this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg3.php

They write: " Throughout my 2 years on this zero-carb diet, I had dry eyes and

dry mouth. My eyes were bloodshot and irritated, and I had to give up wearing

contact lenses. Through repeated experiments, I established that two factors

contributed to the dry eyes – vitamin C deficiency and glucose deficiency. After

I solved the vitamin C issue, I did perhaps 50 experiments over the following

few years, increasing carbs which made the dry eyes go away and reducing them

which made them immediately come back. This established unequivocally that it

was a glucose deficiency alone that caused the dry eyes. "

They do not know that contact lenses cause the irritation, which makes the eyes

bloodshot, dry, etc. particularly when the person is unhealthy. When he reduced

carbs and the symptoms came back, he thought that was bad, but lower carbs were

likely better since they helped the eyes heal and detoxify (toxins coming out

through the eyes make them dry), and we know that inflammation and infection are

natural healing processes as this article explains:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/nature3.php

They write: " Tears, saliva, and mucus of the sinuses, airways, and

gastrointestinal tract are all comprised substantially of glycoproteins called

mucins. Mucins are primarily composed of sugar; they typically have a number of

large sugar chains bound to a protein backbone. If, for whatever reason, mucin

production were halted for lack of glucose, we would have no tears, no saliva

and no gastrointestinal or airway mucus. "

Mucus is not the same as mucins. Mucins are only one of the substances in

mucus, which is also made up of water, salts, and other small cells. Mucins are

made up of glycoproteins, however glucoproteins are mainly proteins, that have

sugar attached to their sides, so the body needs very little glucose in order to

produce mucus.

Saliva is not mucus, but it contains mucus. Human saliva is made up of 98%

water, while the other 2% consists of other compounds such as electrolytes

(minerals), mucus, and various enzymes.

In humans, the tear film coating the eye, known as the precorneal film, has

three distinct layers, from the most outer surface: oil layer, water and other

substances such as proteins layer, and a mucous layer.

Mucus lining the gastrointestinal tract and airway mucus are not mucins either,

but I won't go into details about them.

The fact is that in a person without diabetes, a rise in blood amino acid

concentration (the result of protein metabolism) stimulates the secretion of

both glucagon and insulin (hormones), so their blood sugar remains stable. In

the non-diabetic state, the release of these two opposing hormones ensures that

the amino acids are used for protein synthesis (because of the extra insulin)

but the blood sugar doesn't drop to dangerously low levels, even if the meal was

low in carbohydrate.

Fatty acids cannot be used directly to produce glucose. However, gycerol, a

product of fat metabolism, can and does produce glucose.

They are also incorrect when they discuss The Optimal Diet. They write: " Note

that we recommend obtaining at least 600 calories per day from protein and carbs

combined. This ensures adequate protein for manufacture of glucose and ketones

in the liver. But the Optimal Diet prescribes only 360 calories total (less in

women), suggesting that gluconeogenesis cannot, over any long-term period, fully

make up for the dietary glucose deficiency. "

The Optimal Diet does not prescribe 360 calories total (carbs plus protein), and

they do not prescribe less for women than in men. They prescribe that a person

(man or woman) 5 feet 6 inches tall get 68g protein and 54g carbs = 122g x 4

(calorie per gram) = 487 calories. A person 5 feet 10 inches tall needs 78g

protein and 62g carbs = 140 x 4 = 562 calories.

They also claim: " On the Bellevue All-Meat Trial in 1928 Vilhjalmur Stefansson

ate 550 protein calories per day, which is probably a good estimate for the

minimum intake needed to prevent lean tissue loss on a zero-carb diet. "

They did not state that V. Stefansson and K. also consumed fat. They

ate a total of 2600-3000 calories per day, which was 80% fat and 20% protein (by

calorie count), so protein was about 550 calories per day.

Also lean tissue loss happens when the body must borrow proteins from it during

starvation or in conditions like anorexia. Lack of carbs does not cause lean

tissue loss because tissues are perfectly health when a person consumes only

meats and fats.

Examples are the Eskimos and the Masai Tribe in Africa studied by Dr. Weston A.

Price, He concluded they were the healthiest of all groups he research

throughout the World. Dr. Price also writes about borrowing protein from

muscles and mineral from bones.

I could go on and on, but I do not want to waste my time since there is MUCH

MORE that is wrong than is right.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Thank you for all the good info in your response here. Could you address the

claim that there is a higher insistent of stomach cancer in people who have been

on the Optimal Diet for a lengthy period of time?

Thank you,

Anita

>

> I recommended your program and the optimal diet to my local wapf group and got

this:

>

> Those of you who are interested in the Optimal Diet, might want to take a look

at the following to determine what level of carbohydrate restriction might be

safest: Dangers of Zero-Carb Diets, II: Mucus Deficiency and Gastrointestinal

Cancers:

> http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1077

>

> Your thoughts on this?

>

> Hi Wanda,

>

> Perfect Health claims that Zero-Carb Diets Can Induce Mucus Deficiency.

>

> First, they claim they were doing a Zero-Carb diet, but their diet was

definitely not Zero-Carbs. The husband writes: " I ate a high-vegetable but

extremely low-carb diet from December 2005 to January 2008. At the time I

thought I was getting about 300 carb calories a day, but I now consider this to

have been a zero-carb diet, since I don't believe carb calories are available

from most vegetables. "

>

> So it is obvious they do not understand what Carbs are, and that they are all

plant foods, including vegetables.

>

> They write: " Vegetable carbs are mostly consumed by gut bacteria, whose

assistance we need to break down vegetable matter, or by intestinal cells which

consume glucose during digestion. "

>

> They also do not understand that all carbs contain fibers (called cellulose),

which is the cell wall of all plant foods that Humans are unable to digest,

which is why the body must create bacteria in order to break them down. Raw

Versus Cooked Carbs (all plant foods) explains this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/veg3.php

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[Guest guest]

>

> I did the 20% protein and 80% fat diet for 5 weeks, then after that I slowly

started introducing the recommended carbs ie saurkraut, herbs, low starch veg

etc. I have been eating this way for two years, but I have decided not to allow

my carbs to go above 15g.

>

> Although, according to the equasion we all use here on this diet, I could eat

around 52g of carbs per day and still be healthy, I myself have chosen to keep

my carbs very low, not much higher than zero carbs. The reason I have chosen to

do this is that when my carbs are this low my health is significantly better,

and although I do experience healing reactions they are very mild when I eat low

carb like this.

>

> In the past I have gone higher, and although I was still OK, my healing

reactions were more severe. I have concluded from this that my body actually

prefers me to be in ketosis and eating very few carbs and when I do do this my

body rewards me by healing in a more gentle manner. At least this is how it

appears to me, and this is why I am sticking with the very low carbs, even

though on this programme I could eat significantly more carbs than I do.

>

> If my body is happy and it is healing well I see no point in eating more of

the foods that only help a little, like the carbs, and prefer to eat the foods

that are helping a lot, ie the protein and fat. In time I may raise my carb

level, but I do not think it will be soon. I like healing at a steady rate, and

when I am in  ketosis I always have a warm content feeling, a knowing feeling,

telling me that everything is moving in the right direction and that everything

is going to be OK.

>

+++Thank you Joanne! That's terrific and perfect timing in response to the

claim that The Optimal Diet is dangerous. I needed the back-up from you and

others. It was disconcerting to read how many things people can get so very

wrong in one article.

May I please post your message in our Success Stories so others can learn how

important meats, eggs, high-fats and low-carbs are for their health?

Lotsa Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

I just wanted to tell you that your last sentence made me smile. )

Group Moderator

>

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> I like healing at a steady rate, and when I

> am in  ketosis I always have a warm content feeling, a knowing feeling,

telling

> me that everything is moving in the right direction and that everything

is going

> to be OK.

>

>

> Kindest regards

>

> Joanne

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> Thank you for all the good info in your response here. Could you address the

claim that there is a higher insistent of stomach cancer in people who have been

on the Optimal Diet for a lengthy period of time?

+++Hi Anita,

I intended to cover that issue, but it was getting late yesterday when I was

writing my response and I had many more things to get done, i.e. eating,

cleaning, family, etc. : )

Every day gets more and more active for me, which is fun and wonderful, but I

will need more time to address this issue. I'll make a note, okay?

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

My family too have never done better than on Bee's program, and especially since

we changed to the all meat and fat program. My daughter who is recovering from

life threatening allergies and asthma, autism, hyperactivity, psycosis, pcb

poisoning, serious gastro intestinal disorder etc is a beautiful, blooming

piture of health and happiness. Hooray for meat eggs and fat and hooray for

Bee!!!

Lots of love

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> > Thank you for all the good info in your response here. Could you address the

claim that there is a higher insistent of stomach cancer in people who have been

on the Optimal Diet for a lengthy period of time?

>

> +++Hi Anita,

> I intended to cover that issue, but it was getting late yesterday when I was

writing my response and I had many more things to get done, i.e. eating,

cleaning, family, etc. : )

>

> Every day gets more and more active for me, which is fun and wonderful, but I

will need more time to address this issue. I'll make a note, okay?

>

> Cheers, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My family too have never done better than on Bee's program, and especially

since we changed to the all meat and fat program. My daughter who is recovering

from life threatening allergies and asthma, autism, hyperactivity, psycosis, pcb

poisoning, serious gastro intestinal disorder etc is a beautiful, blooming

picture of health and happiness. Hooray for meat eggs and fat and hooray for

Bee!!!

> Lots of love

+++Hi ,

Lots of Love to you and your daughter!

That's a fantastic success on all meat and fat too, and I have a very soft heart

for children.

May I add this to the other Success Stories that back up how healthy meats and

fats are?

Bee