Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I use Macadamia oil as it can go to a higher temp without going rancid also. It is a bit more costly than a lot of other oils but I have a cup in the fridge with some of the oil in and a pastry brush and I have trained my kids to just paint the bottom of the pan with it rather than pour from the bottle so it lasts longer. hth ) http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I highly reccommend cooking with tallow -- rendered beef fat. I was able to buy organic beef suet from the health food store; though they looked at me funny when I asked for it. It's very good for cooking. If eating animal fat worries you, check out " The Cholestrol Myths " by Uffe Ravnskov, MD or these websites: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html http://www.thincs.org/ Ghee is also good, as well as butter, though butter can burn. NEVER EVER cook flax oil. It's a bad idea to cook with olive oil too. Always eat them raw. I am a big fan of the Weston Price Foundation as well as Dr. D " Adamo, and I try to integrate the two in my type O diet. Most vegetable oils are not recommended by the people at Weston Price, as they were never used in traditional cultures. One of the worst is canola oil. The vegetable oils used in traditional cultures include coconut and olive oil.. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html Dr. D'Adamo is critical of coconut oil, and I don't remember his reasoning, but he has it on his website somewhere: http://www.dadamo.com The Weston Price people are big on coconut oil, and recommend it as a supplement. - T From: " a " <shawna@...> Subject: Cooking oil Hey everyone! I am new here and a bit interested in this diet. I have paid close attention to diet, cleansing, etc., for a few years now and I going to try out some of the BTD concepts. I used to be a raw vegan (over a year ago) and got in the habit of eating avocados or cucumbers almost daily. That's something I have got to stop! I also became a huge fan of coconut oil (mostly the virgin kind) and use that for cooking. I find that it is important to use saturated fats for sauteing and high-heat cooking as these are less likely to oxidize and go rancid. Coconut oil always seemed like the perfect fit, especially since I have never been big on lard and beef tallow seems hard to find. I haven't tried palm oil. Maybe ghee? What do you all use? It seems I also have a food allergy to olive oil, so I use hemp seed and flax seed oils in my salads. I doubt these are appropriate for cooking. Thanks! a __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 In a message dated 6/19/2005 4:44:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, shawna@... writes: I haven't tried palm oil. Maybe ghee? What do you all use? Olive oil, butter, and lard. Coconut oil is a neutral for non-secreters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Good girl, no waste. I use ghee and coconut oil for cooking but use very little, I add the oils (ghee, coconut & olive) to my food later. " ) " <firesprite68@...> wrote:I use Macadamia oil as it can go to a higher temp without going rancid also. It is a bit more costly than a lot of other oils but I have a cup in the fridge with some of the oil in and a pastry brush and I have trained my kids to just paint the bottom of the pan with it rather than pour from the bottle so it lasts longer. hth ) http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I thought tallow was from deer or venison. They used to make candles from that. Cooking oil Hey everyone! I am new here and a bit interested in this diet. I have paid close attention to diet, cleansing, etc., for a few years now and I going to try out some of the BTD concepts. I used to be a raw vegan (over a year ago) and got in the habit of eating avocados or cucumbers almost daily. That's something I have got to stop! I also became a huge fan of coconut oil (mostly the virgin kind) and use that for cooking. I find that it is important to use saturated fats for sauteing and high-heat cooking as these are less likely to oxidize and go rancid. Coconut oil always seemed like the perfect fit, especially since I have never been big on lard and beef tallow seems hard to find. I haven't tried palm oil. Maybe ghee? What do you all use? It seems I also have a food allergy to olive oil, so I use hemp seed and flax seed oils in my salads. I doubt these are appropriate for cooking. Thanks! a __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I think tallow can be made from any large-boned mammal. It's good for making candles and soap as well, I believe. There was a time in which we used all parts of the animals we butchered. I'm not sure if big industry finds this " cost-effective " . -Robin > I thought tallow was from deer or venison. They used to make candles from that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Thanks to Tamara and everyone, I went ahead and bought some ghee for cooking! I am also a big fan of the WAPF, which has been one of my influences for using coconut oil. I am O+, so evidently it isn't for me. Do you still use it regardless? I think I might take a bit of a break from it simply because I have been using it daily for over a year now. I like to try to make a point of cycling out my food. I would never use flax, hemp, etc., for cooking. These are for salad dressings only! I may be able to find suet. As it is, my husband and I have a jar full of lard that he uses sometimes for cooking. Blessings, a > I highly reccommend cooking with tallow -- rendered beef fat. I was > able to buy organic beef suet from the health food store; though they > looked at me funny when I asked for it. It's very good for cooking. > > If eating animal fat worries you, check out " The Cholestrol Myths " by > Uffe Ravnskov, MD or these websites: > http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html > http://www.thincs.org/ > > Ghee is also good, as well as butter, though butter can burn. > > NEVER EVER cook flax oil. It's a bad idea to cook with olive oil too. > Always eat them raw. > > I am a big fan of the Weston Price Foundation as well as Dr. D " Adamo, > and I try to integrate the two in my type O diet. Most vegetable oils > are not recommended by the people at Weston Price, as they were never > used in traditional cultures. One of the worst is canola oil. The > vegetable oils used in traditional cultures include coconut and olive > oil.. > http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html > > Dr. D'Adamo is critical of coconut oil, and I don't remember his > reasoning, but he has it on his website somewhere: > http://www.dadamo.com > > The Weston Price people are big on coconut oil, and recommend it as a > supplement. > > - T > > > > From: " a " <shawna@q...> > Subject: Cooking oil > > Hey everyone! > > I am new here and a bit interested in this diet. I have paid close > attention to diet, cleansing, etc., for a few years now and I going to > try out some of the BTD concepts. I used to be a raw vegan (over a > year ago) and got in the habit of eating avocados or cucumbers almost > daily. That's something I have got to stop! > > I also became a huge fan of coconut oil (mostly the virgin kind) and > use that for cooking. I find that it is important to use saturated > fats for sauteing and high-heat cooking as these are less likely to > oxidize and go rancid. Coconut oil always seemed like the perfect > fit, especially since I have never been big on lard and beef tallow > seems hard to find. I haven't tried palm oil. Maybe ghee? What do > you all use? > > It seems I also have a food allergy to olive oil, so I use hemp seed > and flax seed oils in my salads. I doubt these are appropriate for > cooking. > > Thanks! > a > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 A few people on the list here want to use saturated fat for cooking - but why? I can not imagine any good reason to even have saturated fat in the house. The carbohydrates we eat turn into saturated fat - lots more than we need unless we exercise to use them up right away, so why add more? Saturated fat can be burned as energy yes - bu that's ALL it can do. If we eat UNsaturated fats it provides nutrients like fatty acids which the boy has a choice how to use. With saturated fat the body has no choice and saturated fat does NOt provide any nutrients that can do anything - other than pure energy burning - nothing that helps the metabolism to maintain health - no antioxidants - no good fatty acids - and nothing that provides essential nutrients. It's just sludge. So why eat saturated fat? By definition if it is saturated (before entry to the body as opposed to afterwards) it is incapable of taking part in the kind of reactions that are healthful during the process of becoming saturated. Those little unhydrogenated bits are like handles for chemical reactions - but saturated fat has none left - they have been " saturated " with " hydrogen " atoms, leaving zero reactive sites. For the people who swallow already saturated fat, as in using it for cooking or anything else - how sure are you that you will burn all of it - considering that if you do not, it will be damaging to your health? Why not use monounsaturated fat like EVO - extra virgin Olive oil - which can also be used for energy - but which does at least provide a host of nutrients with it such as antioxidants, omega-3, omega-6 and omega-9 fatty acids. I'm aware that EVO should not be overheated but nor should any other fat - you will turn them carcinogenic. Steak needs no extra fat for cooking - just cook it dry, that works best. And everything else need not be heated so hot, and you will retain nutrients. I've been biting my tongue on this issue a long time but today the tongue complains :-)) So - What's up with this saturated fat promotion happening here? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 In a message dated 6/22/2005 9:56:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, shawna@... writes: NEVER EVER cook flax oil. Unless you're going to paint your deck with it (linseed oil).--LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 Irene- I agree with you completely. If I understand correctly, you are not advocating NO saturated fat, since it is so many " o " sources of protein. You are asking why purposely cook with more of it. We need saturated fat in our diets as it occurs in the foods we consume, but you are so right about using olive oil as well and we do overheat so much of what we eat. I use and recommend cold- pressed extra virgin olive oil consumed raw whenever possible. Many things we cook (like the steak you mentioned) can be cooked without adding oil at all. I make an omlet with no butter or oil by beginning with steaming spinach leaves - sometimes with onion- in the pan. The moisture released from the spinach keeps the omlet from sticking. Of course it helps to use a good pan. Irene, thanks for bringing this topic to light. To others: many of the books cited make the case for sat. fat, but only as it occurs in the foods naturally, right? in Montana, land of buffalo burgers and gas station casinos. > A few people on the list here want to use saturated fat for cooking - > but why? > > I can not imagine any good reason to even have saturated fat in the > house. The carbohydrates we eat turn into saturated fat - lots more than > we need unless we exercise to use them up right away, so why add more? > > Saturated fat can be burned as energy yes - bu that's ALL it can do. If > we eat UNsaturated fats it provides nutrients like fatty acids which the > boy has a choice how to use. With saturated fat the body has no choice > and saturated fat does NOt provide any nutrients that can do anything - > other than pure energy burning - nothing that helps the metabolism to > maintain health - no antioxidants - no good fatty acids - and nothing > that provides essential nutrients. It's just sludge. > > So why eat saturated fat? > By definition if it is saturated (before entry to the body as opposed to > afterwards) it is incapable of taking part in the kind of reactions that > are healthful during the process of becoming saturated. > Those little unhydrogenated bits are like handles for chemical > reactions - but saturated fat has none left - they have been " saturated " > with " hydrogen " atoms, leaving zero reactive sites. > > For the people who swallow already saturated fat, as in using it for > cooking or anything else - how sure are you that you will burn all of it > - considering that if you do not, it will be damaging to your health? > > Why not use monounsaturated fat like EVO - extra virgin Olive oil - > which can also be used for energy - but which does at least provide a > host of nutrients with it such as antioxidants, omega-3, omega-6 and > omega-9 fatty acids. > > I'm aware that EVO should not be overheated but nor should any other fat > - you will turn them carcinogenic. Steak needs no extra fat for cooking > - just cook it dry, that works best. And everything else need not be > heated so hot, and you will retain nutrients. > > I've been biting my tongue on this issue a long time but today the > tongue complains :-)) > > So - What's up with this saturated fat promotion happening here? > > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 In a message dated 25/10/2005 11:02:49 GMT Daylight Time, lorene.amet@... writes: Dr. McCandless suggested for cooking to use coco nut oil or Macadenian oil, but I cannot find a source for the former one- Any suggestions/ alternative oils that could be suitable for cooking? >>>>Coconut Connections do an organic one - search Nutricentre under Coconut Oil - they have special offers at the moment HTH Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hi Lorene You can use organic sunflower oil available in Asda. I have super reactive kid and he is ok with this. Quite a lot of kids react to vegetable oil. Thats why walkers crips can cause problems as they are cooked in veg oil. Coconut oil may be ok I dont know but my son had an allergy test done as was shown to be allergic to coconuts, coconut oil... just my luck ! Joanne Burke > > Hi > > > Dr. McCandless suggested for cooking to use coco nut oil or Macadenian > oil, but I cannot find a source for the former one- Any suggestions/ > alternative oils that could be suitable for cooking? > > Lorene > > -- > > > Lorene Amet, D. Phil. > 6 Greenbank Avenue > Edinburgh EH10 5RD, UK > Office +44 (0) 131 447 9093 > Tel +44 (0) 131 447 7543 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 > > > > Dr. McCandless suggested for cooking to use coco nut oil > > Lorene > > Lorene, Most health food shops sell coconut oil,you will find it in the chiller. Although it is called oil it is actually solid so isn't kept with the other cooking oils. Hope this helps > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hello I am still new to this diet and making adjustments at home, trying to change my cooking habits is proving challenging with two young kids. . I did read the Candida list of course and Bee's warning in regard to cooking with oils that act like plastic in the body, But I haven't found anything in regard to GRAPE SEED oil which has a very high burning point. And how about Palm Oil, or Rice Oil, are they all just as bad? My family is not liking the flavor and smell of lard, any suggestions? Thanks Juno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hi Juno, You can use coconut oil or butter for frying. Tropical Traditions has expeller-pressed coconut oil that has no flavour, so your kids shouldn't notice a taste. Butter is okay to use, too. Just be sure to keep temperatures low so you don't burn it. Ghee (clarified butter) is also good. If you're able to get duck or goose fat, they taste really good, too. They have a much milder flavour than lard. I'll let Bee comment on the other oils you mention. Group Moderator > > > Hello > > I am still new to this diet and making adjustments at home, trying to change my cooking habits is proving challenging with two young kids. . > I did read the Candida list of course and Bee's warning in regard to cooking with oils that act like plastic in the body, > But I haven't found anything in regard to GRAPE SEED oil which has a very high burning point. And how about Palm Oil, or Rice Oil, are they all just as bad? > My family is not liking the flavor and smell of lard, any suggestions? > > Thanks > Juno > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 > Hello > > I am still new to this diet and making adjustments at home, trying to change my cooking habits is proving challenging with two young kids. . > I did read the Candida list of course and Bee's warning in regard to cooking with oils that act like plastic in the body, > But I haven't found anything in regard to GRAPE SEED oil which has a very high burning point. And how about Palm Oil, or Rice Oil, are they all just as bad? > My family is not liking the flavor and smell of lard, any suggestions? > +++Hi Juno, Grape Seed Oil is also an unnatural man-made fat that contains Omega 6, the essential fatty acids we can have too much of and must keep balanced with enough omega 3 from cod liver oil that I recommend. So, no I do not recommend it, nor Rice Oil, which is made from the grains of rice and no grains are included on my program. Palm oil is fine, but it doesn't taste very good, so it isn't worth trying it out. Stick to cooking with the fats on this program that give you. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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