Need some support

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Melinda!

Let me be the first on to say that I am not here to judge you and that I respect the decisions you make. I support you 100 percent and I admire you for who you are!

Love you,

Chelle (michelle4)

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Hi Melinda,

Just want to let you know that we will be behind you, supporting you all the

way!

Ling

need some support

Hello.

I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)

SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes.

IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

And im not serious about any of it. SO.

Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or

brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or " Don't try

so hard, it never happens when you try "

Its annoying. LOL

SO any how. there is my vent LOL

Melinda

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In a message dated 4/08/01 9:53:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, molesareus@... writes:

<beingSick >

Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 10:09 PM

Subject: need some support

Hello.

I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)

SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes.

IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

ask, "OHH are you pregnant now?" like they would give me the world on a

platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

And im not serious about any of it. SO.

Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or

brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet?" or " Don't try

so hard, it never happens when you try"

First it is your business to have a baby and your God given right as a woman, not the darned doctors, your family should Mind their own business when you eventually tell them, right now don't tell them anything and if they ask just say . nothing, no hints either and change the subject fast .You have my support hon. Good Luck! Anne

[Guest guest]

Melinda, Take care & be careful....many of us really care about

you...Know that we are always behind you 100%. Good Luck! Love, Barb

need some support

Hello.

I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)

SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes.

IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

And im not serious about any of it. SO.

Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or

brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or " Don't try

so hard, it never happens when you try "

Its annoying. LOL

SO any how. there is my vent LOL

Melinda

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Each individual person has the right to decide what is the correct action for them. When they have thoughtfully considered the ramifications of their actions, then they proceed.

Lee

Joke for Melinda: A bachelor said that every time he went to a family wedding, his relatives would poke him and say, "You're next! You're next!" Well, he got them back. At the next family funeral, he went up to the same relatives and said, "You're next! You're next!"

Melinda Sprague <mydragon@...> wrote:

Hello.I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr. monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes. IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always ask, "OHH are you pregnant now?" like they would give me the world on a platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie. And im not serious about any of it. SO.Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time. And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet?" or " Don't try so hard, it never happens when you try"Its annoying. LOLSO any how. there is my vent LOLMelinda

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LOL good joke LOL i like that one.

Melinda

At 01:16 PM 4/8/01 -0700, you wrote:

Each individual person has the

right to decide what is the correct action for them. When they have

thoughtfully considered the ramifications of their actions, then they

proceed.

Lee

Joke for Melinda: A bachelor said that every time he went to a

family wedding, his relatives would poke him and say, " You're next!

You're next! " Well, he got them back. At the next family

funeral, he went up to the same relatives and said, " You're next!

You're next! "

Melinda Sprague <mydragon@...> wrote:

Hello.

I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna

hear

any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to

get

pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch.

I

am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas

peoples)

SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my

diabetes.

IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They

always

ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the

world on a

platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no

biggie.

And im not serious about any of it. SO.

Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child

or

brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all

know

the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or

" Don't try

so hard, it never happens when you try "

Its annoying. LOL

SO any how. there is my vent LOL

Melinda

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Heya Mel!!

Big *hugs* and best of luck in your endeavor!! :-)

I was just studying my pharmacology (like a good girl!! LMAO) and came across

something that I thought you might be interested in (if you didn't already know

it!)

If you have been taking Glucophage (I can't remember if you were or not), then

you really need to be taking a good vitamin supplement right now. One of the

side effects of Glucophage is that it prevents absorption of B vitamins, of

which folic acid is one. So take

those vitamins, girl, and build up that folic acid for the benefit of your

soon-to-be wonderful little one!! :-)

*hugs*

1

Melinda Sprague wrote:

> Hello.

> I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

> any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

> pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

> was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

> am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)

> SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

> monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

> meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes.

> IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

> ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

> platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

> all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

> And im not serious about any of it. SO.

> Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or

> brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

> been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

> unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

> And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

> probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

> the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

> knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

> stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or " Don't try

> so hard, it never happens when you try "

> Its annoying. LOL

> SO any how. there is my vent LOL

> Melinda

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Wow, NO i didnt know that. Isn't it nice that the Dr.s always seem to

FORGET to tell paitents something! I had no idea. ACK that is awful. Ya im

sure he'll give me some prenatal vitamins, well thats of course if he takes

me seriously. ( which i have doubts about) He will yank me off the

glucophage and the avandia too. But thats to be expected. Im not sure about

the Rynatan. But I read, and was told. that i could stay on my Welbutran.

Which is a good thing cause i dont know how i'd be without it.

Went to a part this weekend. Babies all over the freaking place. It was

hard. I was having a coughing fit too. Started on Friday that i was having

hard time breathing again. Coughing alot too. Course we couldnt stay long

at the party cause the host and most of the hosts family were chain smokers

and that really Irritated my throat and nose. SO im still coughing. Not

sleeping too good, but tommorow i go BACK again to see the Allergist. So

maybe he will have more answers. oh and i get to tell him that the nose

spray that he gave me a perscription for is NOT covered by insurance and

now the other stuff, Rynattan ( some crazy spelling like that) is NO longer

covered by the insurance. Its funny too, cause i have 3, count um!, 3

insurances and NOT ONE will pay for EITHER of the meds. SO im screwed on

that one. Oy Vay!

Night wendy and thanks for the info, sucks that i didnt know cause ive been

on it for like over a year now.

Melinda

At 12:42 AM 4/9/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Heya Mel!!

>Big *hugs* and best of luck in your endeavor!! :-)

>I was just studying my pharmacology (like a good girl!! LMAO) and came

>across something that I thought you might be interested in (if you didn't

>already know it!)

>If you have been taking Glucophage (I can't remember if you were or not),

>then you really need to be taking a good vitamin supplement right now. One

>of the side effects of Glucophage is that it prevents absorption of B

>vitamins, of which folic acid is one. So take

>those vitamins, girl, and build up that folic acid for the benefit of your

>soon-to-be wonderful little one!! :-)

>

>*hugs*

>1

>

>

>Melinda Sprague wrote:

>

> > Hello.

> > I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

> > any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

> > pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

> > was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

> > am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas peoples)

> > SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

> > monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

> > meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my diabetes.

> > IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

> > ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

> > platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

> > all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

> > And im not serious about any of it. SO.

> > Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child or

> > brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

> > been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

> > unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

> > And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

> > probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

> > the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

> > knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

> > stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or " Don't try

> > so hard, it never happens when you try "

> > Its annoying. LOL

> > SO any how. there is my vent LOL

> > Melinda

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Mel,

Just another side note...if your doc doesn't want to give you prenatal

vitamins (most doctors I know won't prescribe them unless you're already

pregnant), you can buy good prenatal formulas over the counter. And they are

usually not much more expensive than regular

vits.

*hugs*

1

Melinda Sprague wrote:

> Wow, NO i didnt know that. Isn't it nice that the Dr.s always seem to

> FORGET to tell paitents something! I had no idea. ACK that is awful. Ya im

> sure he'll give me some prenatal vitamins, well thats of course if he takes

> me seriously. ( which i have doubts about) He will yank me off the

> glucophage and the avandia too. But thats to be expected. Im not sure about

> the Rynatan. But I read, and was told. that i could stay on my Welbutran.

> Which is a good thing cause i dont know how i'd be without it.

> Went to a part this weekend. Babies all over the freaking place. It was

> hard. I was having a coughing fit too. Started on Friday that i was having

> hard time breathing again. Coughing alot too. Course we couldnt stay long

> at the party cause the host and most of the hosts family were chain smokers

> and that really Irritated my throat and nose. SO im still coughing. Not

> sleeping too good, but tommorow i go BACK again to see the Allergist. So

> maybe he will have more answers. oh and i get to tell him that the nose

> spray that he gave me a perscription for is NOT covered by insurance and

> now the other stuff, Rynattan ( some crazy spelling like that) is NO longer

> covered by the insurance. Its funny too, cause i have 3, count um!, 3

> insurances and NOT ONE will pay for EITHER of the meds. SO im screwed on

> that one. Oy Vay!

> Night wendy and thanks for the info, sucks that i didnt know cause ive been

> on it for like over a year now.

> Melinda

> At 12:42 AM 4/9/01 -0500, you wrote:

> >Heya Mel!!

> >Big *hugs* and best of luck in your endeavor!! :-)

> >I was just studying my pharmacology (like a good girl!! LMAO) and came

> >across something that I thought you might be interested in (if you didn't

> >already know it!)

> >If you have been taking Glucophage (I can't remember if you were or not),

> >then you really need to be taking a good vitamin supplement right now. One

> >of the side effects of Glucophage is that it prevents absorption of B

> >vitamins, of which folic acid is one. So take

> >those vitamins, girl, and build up that folic acid for the benefit of your

> >soon-to-be wonderful little one!! :-)

> >

> >*hugs*

> >1

> >

> >

> >Melinda Sprague wrote:

> >

> > > Hello.

> > > I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont wanna hear

> > > any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting to get

> > > pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I decided I

> > > was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip, zilch. I

> > > am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas

peoples)

> > > SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling my Dr.

> > > monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me off the

> > > meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my

diabetes.

> > > IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They always

> > > ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

> > > platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and doing

> > > all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no biggie.

> > > And im not serious about any of it. SO.

> > > Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a child

or

> > > brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have NEVER

> > > been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a year, having

> > > unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some time.

> > > And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need support. IM

> > > probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should all know

> > > the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

> > > knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

> > > stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or " Don't try

> > > so hard, it never happens when you try "

> > > Its annoying. LOL

> > > SO any how. there is my vent LOL

> > > Melinda

> > >

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Hmm ok. I think the Dr.s might be missing something here. Prenatal. Lets

break that down. Pre= before. Natal. IM guessing that has to do with being

pregnant. So that would be BEFORE pregnancy! Dang they sure are dumb. But

for some odd reason im not the least bit surprized that they dont like to

perscribe them. lol

Melinda

At 01:21 AM 4/9/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Mel,

> Just another side note...if your doc doesn't want to give you prenatal

> vitamins (most doctors I know won't prescribe them unless you're already

> pregnant), you can buy good prenatal formulas over the counter. And they

> are usually not much more expensive than regular

>vits.

>

>*hugs*

>1

>

>

>Melinda Sprague wrote:

>

> > Wow, NO i didnt know that. Isn't it nice that the Dr.s always seem to

> > FORGET to tell paitents something! I had no idea. ACK that is awful. Ya im

> > sure he'll give me some prenatal vitamins, well thats of course if he takes

> > me seriously. ( which i have doubts about) He will yank me off the

> > glucophage and the avandia too. But thats to be expected. Im not sure about

> > the Rynatan. But I read, and was told. that i could stay on my Welbutran.

> > Which is a good thing cause i dont know how i'd be without it.

> > Went to a part this weekend. Babies all over the freaking place. It was

> > hard. I was having a coughing fit too. Started on Friday that i was having

> > hard time breathing again. Coughing alot too. Course we couldnt stay long

> > at the party cause the host and most of the hosts family were chain smokers

> > and that really Irritated my throat and nose. SO im still coughing. Not

> > sleeping too good, but tommorow i go BACK again to see the Allergist. So

> > maybe he will have more answers. oh and i get to tell him that the nose

> > spray that he gave me a perscription for is NOT covered by insurance and

> > now the other stuff, Rynattan ( some crazy spelling like that) is NO longer

> > covered by the insurance. Its funny too, cause i have 3, count um!, 3

> > insurances and NOT ONE will pay for EITHER of the meds. SO im screwed on

> > that one. Oy Vay!

> > Night wendy and thanks for the info, sucks that i didnt know cause ive been

> > on it for like over a year now.

> > Melinda

> > At 12:42 AM 4/9/01 -0500, you wrote:

> > >Heya Mel!!

> > >Big *hugs* and best of luck in your endeavor!! :-)

> > >I was just studying my pharmacology (like a good girl!! LMAO) and came

> > >across something that I thought you might be interested in (if you didn't

> > >already know it!)

> > >If you have been taking Glucophage (I can't remember if you were or not),

> > >then you really need to be taking a good vitamin supplement right now. One

> > >of the side effects of Glucophage is that it prevents absorption of B

> > >vitamins, of which folic acid is one. So take

> > >those vitamins, girl, and build up that folic acid for the benefit of your

> > >soon-to-be wonderful little one!! :-)

> > >

> > >*hugs*

> > >1

> > >

> > >

> > >Melinda Sprague wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hello.

> > > > I know that this is going to raise alot of eyebrows, and I dont

> wanna hear

> > > > any crap. That being said. I know alot of you know about my wanting

> to get

> > > > pregnant, the insulin pump and all my other crap. Well today, I

> decided I

> > > > was not going to take my Birth Control any more. None, nada, zip,

> zilch. I

> > > > am supposed to start sunday, ( tommorow or today for you over seas

> peoples)

> > > > SO, I DO feel awful about this. BUT in a way I dont. I AM calling

> my Dr.

> > > > monday morn and getting an appointment and telling him to take me

> off the

> > > > meds that im on that could harm the baby and help me to manage my

> diabetes.

> > > > IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF. They

> always

> > > > ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me the world on a

> > > > platter if i were. When i say no, im not, im being responsible and

> doing

> > > > all the preconception things i had red about. they act like, oh no

> biggie.

> > > > And im not serious about any of it. SO.

> > > > Before anybody yells and tells me im going to have a mutiant for a

> child or

> > > > brain damaged or whatever. this is my 3rd time OFF the pill. I have

> NEVER

> > > > been pregnant before. I have been off the pill for almost a

> year, having

> > > > unprotected sex and NEVER had even a SCARE. SO, I know i have some

> time.

> > > > And my sugars are mangable too. But. I know im going to need

> support. IM

> > > > probly gonna be mad and angry and upset. But i thought you should

> all know

> > > > the story before i get into anything with Dr.s and such. Yes my husband

> > > > knows and he is supporting me fully. NO my family DOES not know. I cant

> > > > stand to hear month after month, " Are you pregnant yet? " or "

> Don't try

> > > > so hard, it never happens when you try "

> > > > Its annoying. LOL

> > > > SO any how. there is my vent LOL

> > > > Melinda

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[Guest guest]

Dear Melinda,

*raises an eyebrow*

You always have my complete support, just make sure that you do what

ever is in your best interests to keep your health as stable as

possible Your life is valuable, so please look after yourself. I

know its a stupid thing to say really cause thats what you want too -

I just had to say it lol - theres the crap you didnt want to hear! lol

>> IM SICK AND TIRED OF WAITING. IM TIRED OF THEM PUSHING ME OFF.

They always ask, " OHH are you pregnant now? " like they would give me

the world on a platter if i were.

Who are they?

>> Before anybody yells

Spoil sport.... *pouts*

>>But. I know im going to need support. IM probly gonna be mad and

angry and upset.

Dont know, you wont let me yell... *winx*

>> SO any how. there is my vent LOL

*holds up a 6/10*

Sorry but you lost points cause well I didnt get to yell, and your

other vent was better lol...

Good luck, and please, take good care of all of you

*hugs*

Aisha.

[Guest guest]

At 08:05 AM 4/9/01 +0000, you wrote:

> " Who are they? "

" they " are Dr.s. And any other medical person. Diabetes Educators. Pump

Educators. Ect. THEY THEY THEY THEM.

I thought i was just gonna BEAT my Dr. senseless ( short beating im sure)

when he said to me, " Well Instead of putting yourself thru all of this have

you ever thought of adoption? "

I politely told him i didnt have the $20,000.00 to have the home studies,

pay the adoption services, pay for a childs visa, fly over to a foreign

country and pick one up. Think i scared him. Since i HAD done alot of

research on that too. LOL

And my rant/ vent WAS too good. I just covered my bases before hand hehe.

Melinda

[Guest guest]

> I thought i was just gonna BEAT my Dr. senseless ( short beating im

sure)

LMAO

> when he said to me, " Well Instead of putting yourself thru all of

this have you ever thought of adoption? "

Cant you adopt locally? Via a church? Adoption agency? Whats all this

flying around? I ask as I am about to become sterile... The operation

I am having will leave me sterile. My choice to have it = its ok I'm

never having kids anyhow - long story. Adoption was my option if we

were to have kids in the future, we had thought of adopting like a

6/7 year old, so naturally I'm curious as to what you have researched

lol... (cause I'm lazy and dont want to do it myself) Although its

prolly all different here anyhow.

Go Mel!! Kick a Drs butt - what a good Monday!

Love Aisha.

[Guest guest]

Well first off we wanted a baby. i know there are lots of older kids that

would like to be adopted but I already had my sisters kid living with me

and decided id like to start out with a " New " kid. My sisters was already

nasty, snotty and rude. ( she was 15). That kind turned us off. Plus my

husband and I talked it over and both agreed that we didnt want to raise an

African American child. Way to much stress for both of us. So, the odds of

getting a WHITE BABY in america are pretty much NIL unless you got big

bucks. The waiting list on a baby is several years at LEAST.

To adopt over seas, where there are TONS of babies just waiting. Some of

them even dying from lack of attention, ie failure to thrive. YOu have to

have the home study and all of those OTHER things I had stated. I wish i

could just hop on a plane and bring home a baby from say Japan or Vietnam.

But the $20,000.00 i stated earlier is pretty much the LOWEST fee i saw.

Its pretty sad. Just anybody can have a baby but you gotta have bucks to

adopt a child nobody else seems to want who may be dying. :-(

Its disgusting, the entire state of the world and how they treat their

children. Babies all over the dang world just WAITING. Of course sometimes

you run into getting a child who is severly disabled mentally and

physically because of the failure to thrive thing. Cause nobody holds them,

or talks them or nothing. Its sad. Makes me want to cry to think that right

now there are THOUSANDS of children waiting for a home, but because i dont

have $20,000.00 i cant help them.

ok enough about this. Ill go nuts if i think about it too long.

Melinda

At 08:41 AM 4/9/01 +0000, you wrote:

> > I thought i was just gonna BEAT my Dr. senseless ( short beating im

>sure)

>

>LMAO

>

> > when he said to me, " Well Instead of putting yourself thru all of

>this have you ever thought of adoption? "

>

>Cant you adopt locally? Via a church? Adoption agency? Whats all this

>flying around? I ask as I am about to become sterile... The operation

>I am having will leave me sterile. My choice to have it = its ok I'm

>never having kids anyhow - long story. Adoption was my option if we

>were to have kids in the future, we had thought of adopting like a

>6/7 year old, so naturally I'm curious as to what you have researched

>lol... (cause I'm lazy and dont want to do it myself) Although its

>prolly all different here anyhow.

>

>Go Mel!! Kick a Drs butt - what a good Monday!

>

>Love Aisha.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Melinda,

I take prenatal vitamins even though I'm not pregnant.

I've been taking the prenatal vitamins for exactly 1 year

(yesterday was one year since I started taking them) and

since taking them I've had some improvement in my hair

besides that it's growing even faster than before but this

time healthy.

It's also helped my skin and nails. One of my health

problems is a hormone condition that causes a lot of acne

sometimes. Well, b/c of the prenatal vitamins I don't get

many pimples.

I had tried regular multi-vitamins during the last several

years and the brands that I tried weren't as good as the

one I had about 5 years ago. But when I got older I had

always wanted to take prenatal vitamins but didn't know if

I could b/c of just what said about being pregnant.

One of the things that I learned from that Pregnancy and

Birth Forum that I gave you is that you can take prenatal

vitamins as soon as you start to try to get pregnant. Let

me know if you need the link to that list again.

Take care sweetie.

=====

Kristy

http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/kristyspersonalpage.html

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

, I am so sorry you are having such trouble. I really do not know what to say. Just keep trying thing and maybe you will find something that works. I will pray that you find some relief.

in Suffolk

[Guest guest]

,

I think that many, many of us in the group have had the same thing

happen. This use to happen to me much more often in the yr or two

after my surgery, but I am 12 yrs post. I know that often nothing

works for me. AND I know how awful it does really feel. I know that

after a bad " whatever it is pain " my stomach would be sensitive for a

day or two. Many times I just cried in anguish or I would try to make

myself throw up. I am very sorry you are going through this. I wish I

could help more.

I am sure others in this group may have suggestions. I had my

gallbladder symptoms right before I was diagnosed with A. Had it

taken out and still had the same pain...hence my darn diagnosis with

this crazy disease. I wish you much luck. I really do.

Dawn in Ohio

> Hi all

> It's been a while since I've posted, but I need some help from you

> all. Quick history - diagnosed in 1992, lap heller's myotomy in

1998,

> with a partial wrap. Things have been going good except the awful

> spasms and nccp that knock me out for a day or two and leave me

> vomiting. I've tried levsin and nitrotabs, neither work well at all.

> I've been discussing with my dr that it might be gallbladder

problems

> because some of the symptoms are very similar between that and

spasms.

> He gave me a painkiller to take during the spasm (which did nothing

> for me), and a standing order for bloodwork and an ultrasound for my

> gallbladder. Last week, I had a really bad bout with the " spasm " or

> whatever it is, stayed home from work, and went in and had the

> bloodwork and the ultrasound.

>

> I got the results back last night and everything was all clear.

> Evidently, there's nothing wrong with my gallbladder. I have an

appt.

> with my dr. in a week to discuss what's next but I know what he's

> going to say. Nothing's next. It's odd to say I'm devastated that

> nothing's wrong, but I'd so rather KNOW what the heck is happening

to

> me and be able to fix it, than to face the rest of my life with this

> dibilitating pain every few weeks.

>

> My husband is trying to be supportive, saying that he's sure they'll

> find some kind of fix for this, but he doesn't understand that no

one

> is researching this problem for us. This is it. There is no " next

> treatment option " .

>

> I just can't handle this pain anymore. there are no solutions.

> Yes I've tried glugging water (room temp and ice cold) I've tried

> tostitos, triscuits, heat packs, ice packs, running, laying down,

> bearing down. Watching what I eat, changing my eating habits and

what

> kind of food I eat to eating whatever. Nothing works. I'm at my wits

> end and need some sane advice from those of you who know where I'm

at

> and how I feel.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions or words of encouragement. I'm

usually

> very optimistic and positive but I think I've hit my bottom with

this one.

>

> Thanks all

> in Michigan

[Guest guest]

-- Re: Need some support

I have days like that I know how it feels WE all know how it feels I want to laugh or cry when my hubby tries to comfort me like Try "THIS" it's soft or Your thinking about "IT" It's not "THAT" bad last time it was worse etc etc Soo it's nice to have our "A" family to cry on

off topic My retake of the mammogram came out negative hooray

from cold NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

As Dawn mentioned, there are a lot of us that suffer through unbearable

spasms. Mine begin in my jaw, roof of my mouth, my chords in my throat

tighten, my face turns red. Usually, this only happens when I have waited

too many hours before eating. I seem to have much better days when I

constantly have something in my esophagus waiting to go into my stomach. I

have had two open myotomies, and I have had years to adjust to coping

through several tiny meals each day. I drink a lot of milk also. I have

also found that if I sprinkle Betty Crocker Butter & Herb instant potatoes

in any cream soup, I actually get to feel full. I just finished eating some

shaved ham with one slice of melted Swiss cheese for lunch. That will fill

my esophagus for about two hours. I am very fortunate to work from home. I

would never be able to keep up my eating routine in a normal work

environment. I can't even answer my telephone if I am in the middle of

trying to eat :-(

All I can recommend is eating about 5 bites of soft food every two

hours. It works for me.

Good Luck,

(Thunder Bay, Ontario)

Re: Need some support

> ,

>

> I think that many, many of us in the group have had the same thing

> happen. This use to happen to me much more often in the yr or two

> after my surgery, but I am 12 yrs post. I know that often nothing

> works for me. AND I know how awful it does really feel. I know that

> after a bad " whatever it is pain " my stomach would be sensitive for a

> day or two. Many times I just cried in anguish or I would try to make

> myself throw up. I am very sorry you are going through this. I wish I

> could help more.

>

> I am sure others in this group may have suggestions. I had my

> gallbladder symptoms right before I was diagnosed with A. Had it

> taken out and still had the same pain...hence my darn diagnosis with

> this crazy disease. I wish you much luck. I really do.

>

> Dawn in Ohio

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hi all

> > It's been a while since I've posted, but I need some help from you

> > all. Quick history - diagnosed in 1992, lap heller's myotomy in

> 1998,

> > with a partial wrap. Things have been going good except the awful

> > spasms and nccp that knock me out for a day or two and leave me

> > vomiting. I've tried levsin and nitrotabs, neither work well at all.

> > I've been discussing with my dr that it might be gallbladder

> problems

> > because some of the symptoms are very similar between that and

> spasms.

> > He gave me a painkiller to take during the spasm (which did nothing

> > for me), and a standing order for bloodwork and an ultrasound for my

> > gallbladder. Last week, I had a really bad bout with the " spasm " or

> > whatever it is, stayed home from work, and went in and had the

> > bloodwork and the ultrasound.

> >

> > I got the results back last night and everything was all clear.

> > Evidently, there's nothing wrong with my gallbladder. I have an

> appt.

> > with my dr. in a week to discuss what's next but I know what he's

> > going to say. Nothing's next. It's odd to say I'm devastated that

> > nothing's wrong, but I'd so rather KNOW what the heck is happening

> to

> > me and be able to fix it, than to face the rest of my life with this

> > dibilitating pain every few weeks.

> >

> > My husband is trying to be supportive, saying that he's sure they'll

> > find some kind of fix for this, but he doesn't understand that no

> one

> > is researching this problem for us. This is it. There is no " next

> > treatment option " .

> >

> > I just can't handle this pain anymore. there are no solutions.

> > Yes I've tried glugging water (room temp and ice cold) I've tried

> > tostitos, triscuits, heat packs, ice packs, running, laying down,

> > bearing down. Watching what I eat, changing my eating habits and

> what

> > kind of food I eat to eating whatever. Nothing works. I'm at my wits

> > end and need some sane advice from those of you who know where I'm

> at

> > and how I feel.

> >

> > I'd appreciate any suggestions or words of encouragement. I'm

> usually

> > very optimistic and positive but I think I've hit my bottom with

> this one.

> >

> > Thanks all

> > in Michigan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--

I see you've tried levsin and nitro and all the "mechanical" things (eating/drinking/etc).

There are a few more medicines that might bring you relief. First is Nifedipine (procardia, etc.) -- it's a calcium channel blocker. However, its action is similar to the nitro, so you may not have luck with it.

The second is a "newer" way of looking at the NCCPs. There's a theory that the pain doesn't actually originate in the chest/esophagus, but rather in the BRAIN. This is NOT to say that these pains are "all in our head"... they are DEFINITELY real! However, ANY sensation in ANY part of our body is actually "interpreted" by the brain.

If you put your thumb in a flame, the nerves in the thumb send a signal to the brain, and the brain interprets those signals to mean "I feel burning pain in my thumb". If you put your foot in a bucket of icewater, your brain "tells you" that your foot feels cold. Your thumb and your foot aren't really the ones "feeling" hot or cold, they're just sending signals to your brain and your brain then tells you what you are feeling. Well, as in any system of communciation, there are times when there is a breakdown of communications and signals get crossed.

One good example of this phenomenon is "phantom limb pain" that is felt by an amputee. If someone's right leg is amputated above the knee, you'd think that they wouldn't have any "right foot sensations", right? The foot's not there, so it can't "feel" anything, right? But it's not unusual for that person to feel itching on their right toe, or "pins and needles" or hot or cold sensations in their foot, or even searing pain. Researchers aren't sure if the problem stems from damage to the nerves at the point of the amputation (the nerves that previously carried the messages from the foot to the brain that were cut), or if the problem stems from "confusion" in the brain itself (the brain doesn't understand why it's not getting the same old signals from the area of the right foot, so it just makes something up in its place).

Considering that achalasia is caused by damaged esophageal nerves, it makes logical sense to me that those damaged nerves could either be sending "bad" signals to the brain, or else that they've stopped sending any signals at all which confuses the brain.

I know that I'll sometimes get a pain starting right after a particularly hearty sneeze.... almost as if the brain is thinking, "Hmmm, I just felt *something* happen in the region of the chest.... the lungs and nose nerves told me it was a sneeze, but the esophagus nerves didn't chime in with their agreement of that assessment. What is going on here.... maybe it wasn't really a sneeze after all! Well, if it wasn't a sneeze, what WAS that sensation? Oh no, what if it was something harmful or dangerous? Maybe I'd better send out the Pain Response so that my human will fix whatever's wrong. I'm not sure what exactly is wrong, but there MUST be SOMETHING wrong, right? Why else am I not getting a response back from the esophagus nerves to tell me that it was just a sneeze? Yep, something must be REALLY wrong, so I'll send out a HUGE pain response, that's what I'll do!" And the next thing you know you're lying in the fetal position in the middle of the living room floor, trying to negotiate deals with God if he'll please just make it go away.

So now the question is, what do we do about it???? Well, there's a lot of evidence that manipulating brain chemicals can help keep your brain from "jumping the shark" in this type of situation. The most-studied drugs right now include anti-convulsants (most of which have some unpleasant side effects) and anti-depressants. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE CLINICALLY DEPRESSED, nor does it mean you're a basket-case, a candidate for the loony bin, a whack-job, or any other label that people use for those who take antidepressants!!!!

Sometimes you have to "experiement" a little to see exactly which type of anti-depressant works for your individual situation. In many cases, the dosage needed to prevent NCCPs is significantly lower than the dose that is normally prescribed to treat depression. (Because you're not taking them to treat depression, you're taking them to treat a confused-nerve problem in the brain!) Lower doses usually mean less chance of some of the side effects that are associated with some anti-depressants. Examples of drugs to try include Paxil, Wellbutrin, Nortryptaline, Amitryptaline, etc. There are literally dozens of different formulations of anti-depressants. (I've taken a drug on and off over the past few years that affected serotonin, even though it isn't an anti-depressant, and any time I've been taking this drug I have not gotten NCCPs!) There's something about the manipulation of serotonin that seems to "fix" this in many people.

It does involve taking a pill every day, and it does take a couple of weeks for the levels to "build up" to a maintenance level in the body for it to have a preventative effect. It may take a bit of trial and error to figure out if a particular drug is going to work in your body. But if your choices are to suffer through NCCPs or to take a little pill every morning, I would have to opt for the little pill!!!!

I hope this helps -- if you need some backup documentation to show to your doctor, let me know and I can dig it up. (Or do a web search on terms like "phantom pain antidepressant" and you'll find several studies links.)

Debbi in Michigan

Hi allIt's been a while since I've posted, but I need some help from youall. Quick history - diagnosed in 1992, lap heller's myotomy in 1998,with a partial wrap. Things have been going good except the awfulspasms and nccp that knock me out for a day or two and leave mevomiting. I've tried levsin and nitrotabs, neither work well at all.I've been discussing with my dr that it might be gallbladder problemsbecause some of the symptoms are very similar between that and spasms.He gave me a painkiller to take during the spasm (which did nothingfor me), and a standing order for bloodwork and an ultrasound for mygallbladder. Last week, I had a really bad bout with the "spasm" orwhatever it is, stayed home from work, and went in and had thebloodwork and the ultrasound. I got the results back last night and everything was all clear.Evidently, there's nothing wrong with my gallbladder. I have an appt.with my dr. in a week to discuss what's next but I know what he'sgoing to say. Nothing's next. It's odd to say I'm devastated thatnothing's wrong, but I'd so rather KNOW what the heck is happening tome and be able to fix it, than to face the rest of my life with thisdibilitating pain every few weeks. My husband is trying to be supportive, saying that he's sure they'llfind some kind of fix for this, but he doesn't understand that no oneis researching this problem for us. This is it. There is no "nexttreatment option".I just can't handle this pain anymore. there are no solutions. Yes I've tried glugging water (room temp and ice cold) I've triedtostitos, triscuits, heat packs, ice packs, running, laying down,bearing down. Watching what I eat, changing my eating habits and whatkind of food I eat to eating whatever. Nothing works. I'm at my witsend and need some sane advice from those of you who know where I'm atand how I feel.I'd appreciate any suggestions or words of encouragement. I'm usuallyvery optimistic and positive but I think I've hit my bottom with this one.Thanks all in Michigan

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Hi , > I also keep my "E" full when I can't eat for a few days my spasms are unbelievable Soo I try to eat every few hours too >>>

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Wonderful news - it must be such a relief!

Hugs

Joan

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sorry you are still having those awful spasms - sorry I can't add any

advice as I am one of the lucky ones. Debbi's post puts forward a very

interesting and possible answer. When you ask the doctor for an

antidepressant please tell him if you have high blood pressure because some

anti-depressants can interfere with the anti-hypertensive medication as I

have just found out to my cost with 25mg of amitryptaline.

Hope you get some help soon

Hugs

Joan

Need some support

> Hi all

> It's been a while since I've posted, but I need some help from you

> all. Quick history - diagnosed in 1992, lap heller's myotomy in 1998,

> with a partial wrap. Things have been going good except the awful

> spasms and nccp that knock me out for a day or two and leave me

> vomiting. I've tried levsin and nitrotabs, neither work well at all.

> I've been discussing with my dr that it might be gallbladder problems

> because some of the symptoms are very similar between that and spasms.

> He gave me a painkiller to take during the spasm (which did nothing

> for me), and a standing order for bloodwork and an ultrasound for my

> gallbladder. Last week, I had a really bad bout with the " spasm " or

> whatever it is, stayed home from work, and went in and had the

> bloodwork and the ultrasound.

>

> I got the results back last night and everything was all clear.

> Evidently, there's nothing wrong with my gallbladder. I have an appt.

> with my dr. in a week to discuss what's next but I know what he's

> going to say. Nothing's next. It's odd to say I'm devastated that

> nothing's wrong, but I'd so rather KNOW what the heck is happening to

> me and be able to fix it, than to face the rest of my life with this

> dibilitating pain every few weeks.

>

> My husband is trying to be supportive, saying that he's sure they'll

> find some kind of fix for this, but he doesn't understand that no one

> is researching this problem for us. This is it. There is no " next

> treatment option " .

>

> I just can't handle this pain anymore. there are no solutions.

> Yes I've tried glugging water (room temp and ice cold) I've tried

> tostitos, triscuits, heat packs, ice packs, running, laying down,

> bearing down. Watching what I eat, changing my eating habits and what

> kind of food I eat to eating whatever. Nothing works. I'm at my wits

> end and need some sane advice from those of you who know where I'm at

> and how I feel.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions or words of encouragement. I'm usually

> very optimistic and positive but I think I've hit my bottom with this one.

>

> Thanks all

> in Michigan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello !

So sorry that you're going through this.

Hoping someting evolves,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry to hear about you're painful spams, ther're horrible!

I have a similar problem. Although I haven't had a myotomy, my

achalasia symptoms are very similar to a gallbladder attack: pain in

my upper right quadrant that radiates through my chest and it usually

occurs after eating greasy fatty foods. My spasms begin in my upper

right quadrent of my stomach and it almost seems as if thats where

the most intense pain is. I've had an ultrasounds and theres no

stones. So I mentioned this to my GI dr and he told me that its'

because the LES is in the same vacinity as the diaphram. Because

there's contraction of the LES this irritates the diaphram that can

cause spasms to occur.

So, if these symptoms sound like yours, what I have done is

eliminated all...ALL.... greasy, fatty, deep fried foods. I can't

tell you how much this has helped my achalasia!!! (I swear this is

why I've lost weight, not because I eat less) And when my spasms do

occur I relive it with chugging ICE COLD water when I have a hint of

it beginining.

Sorry it's not much to offer, just figured I could try to help.

Maybe you should ask your dr. if it's time for a barium to see if

your LES my need dialtion?? Only a suggestion. And I know it's hard

not to, but try not to anticipate that a spasm is going to occur,

because this only tenses your muscles and your LES is a muscle. I

know when I'm frustrated, it makes me go into spasms. Then of course

you could try progressive relaxation, guided imagery, yoga, deep

breathing... all those alternative methods of pain control. Like

others have mentioned too, antidepressents are used to treat

anxiety. This may help too.

I hope everything works out for you and you find a way to control

your pain!

in Michigan