Questions

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

It sound like we have some similar issues. I have been over 20 yrs dealing with

drs and meds and treatments and i have a close friend that as well has had to

deal with this a long time.

Internist...A dr that has a bit more education that a fanily practioner and they

only deal with adults. My primary is an internist and he take care of it all for

me and does a very good jod considering the 5 disabling conditions I have.

basically an internist is a specialist in adult medicine that has 2 extra yrs of

school. I highly recomend trying one.

Cipro bother me too -- it can mess up my digestion(i have gastroparesis, or slow

gut) with one pill, I wont take the stuff.

The shots. not a viable treatment as you can only have about 3 or 4 every 6

months and they affect the immune system and pose many other health risks the

drs that only want to give these are money grabbers as the shots are a high

dollar items and giving them is a procedure so they can be billed at a high

price...my  wife works as admin. in med. billing and she tells me about these

things.

yes , i think stenosis can be in the neck but to be sure id need to research

that.

You are probably going to need to stop the celexa if it has side effect like

that. plus, celexa is junk. Its just a new( so they can sell it a high

price)head drug that most say makes them feel worse than before. Xanax is tried

ansd tested and my friend has used it to crawl out hell..psychologically, I take

clonazepam, which is in the same drug group as well as valium .  The clon. is

for my bipolar which has went into remision as it was the result of untreated

severe chronic pain...they btreated the pain and the bipolar assuaged. The

valiun is for the muscle tension in my neck due injuries have cause

arthritis..it helps.

I hope i have answered some of ur questions and feel free to querry me anytime

as pain treatment is not being done correctly.

Drs are afraid to admit that we have special receptors built in our bodies thats

are there for opiates..killing pain takes a pain killer.  Itried it all and

finally went back to the oxycodone and drug for inflamation as they work

together.

i mhope i have at least gave you some info  tho many might want to argue with

me, theyd be argueing with facts and experience and inside info about the entire

medical field.

I hope you have a good day and good luck with all this,

G. Harold Ewing II

________________________________

From: jeannieboo1 <jeannieboo1@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:45:16 PM

Subject: questions

 

Hi all,

Hope your weekend is good-I'm stressed as usual, I was hoping with the weather

change(we're in the low 90's now) that I would fel better, but already the

inflammation around my knee is starting, even though it's also been replaced.

I'm going to have to find a new dr. I was given a couple names, but they're

Internists-can they help me out with the same things that a Family dr. could?

Haven't ever been to one, and I'll never go back to the one I saw about 3 weeks

ago, a PA who looked fresh out of med. school and wouldn't give me anything for

nausea that I always get from taking Cipro. What exactly does an Internist do?

Plus, my friend told me she finally got into seeing a dr. about her neck pain,

it's cery severe-after an MRI, they said she had arthritis and Stenosis. I know

I have Stenosis in my back-but is it possible to get it in your neck? They just

want to give her shots for now, but I'm just wondering if you can have stenosis

in your neck?

Lastly- the dr. I last saw gave me Celexa, it's ben 3 weeks, and I'm always

perspiring and have terrible dry mouth, even though I keep plenty of water

around, and SF popsicles. I'm having horrible stomach cramps too since I've

begun taking it-I just double up in pain. Is that normal for Celexa-or could it

be because I had a gastric bypass about 6 years ago? I'm glad I lost the weight,

but it seems I can't eat foods I used to be able to eat, and also have an ulcer.

Could an Internist switch me to a different anti-depressant? The dr. wanted me

to be able to stop taking Xanax, but haven't been able to. The Celexa did seem

to quiet my mind a bit, but the stomach cramps, dry mouth and perspiration are

killing me!

I'm hoping someone can help me with answers to this very long letter.

Thank you again

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

It sound like we have some similar issues. I have been over 20 yrs dealing with

drs and meds and treatments and i have a close friend that as well has had to

deal with this a long time.

Internist...A dr that has a bit more education that a fanily practioner and they

only deal with adults. My primary is an internist and he take care of it all for

me and does a very good jod considering the 5 disabling conditions I have.

basically an internist is a specialist in adult medicine that has 2 extra yrs of

school. I highly recomend trying one.

Cipro bother me too -- it can mess up my digestion(i have gastroparesis, or slow

gut) with one pill, I wont take the stuff.

The shots. not a viable treatment as you can only have about 3 or 4 every 6

months and they affect the immune system and pose many other health risks the

drs that only want to give these are money grabbers as the shots are a high

dollar items and giving them is a procedure so they can be billed at a high

price...my  wife works as admin. in med. billing and she tells me about these

things.

yes , i think stenosis can be in the neck but to be sure id need to research

that.

You are probably going to need to stop the celexa if it has side effect like

that. plus, celexa is junk. Its just a new( so they can sell it a high

price)head drug that most say makes them feel worse than before. Xanax is tried

ansd tested and my friend has used it to crawl out hell..psychologically, I take

clonazepam, which is in the same drug group as well as valium .  The clon. is

for my bipolar which has went into remision as it was the result of untreated

severe chronic pain...they btreated the pain and the bipolar assuaged. The

valiun is for the muscle tension in my neck due injuries have cause

arthritis..it helps.

I hope i have answered some of ur questions and feel free to querry me anytime

as pain treatment is not being done correctly.

Drs are afraid to admit that we have special receptors built in our bodies thats

are there for opiates..killing pain takes a pain killer.  Itried it all and

finally went back to the oxycodone and drug for inflamation as they work

together.

i mhope i have at least gave you some info  tho many might want to argue with

me, theyd be argueing with facts and experience and inside info about the entire

medical field.

I hope you have a good day and good luck with all this,

G. Harold Ewing II

________________________________

From: jeannieboo1 <jeannieboo1@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:45:16 PM

Subject: questions

 

Hi all,

Hope your weekend is good-I'm stressed as usual, I was hoping with the weather

change(we're in the low 90's now) that I would fel better, but already the

inflammation around my knee is starting, even though it's also been replaced.

I'm going to have to find a new dr. I was given a couple names, but they're

Internists-can they help me out with the same things that a Family dr. could?

Haven't ever been to one, and I'll never go back to the one I saw about 3 weeks

ago, a PA who looked fresh out of med. school and wouldn't give me anything for

nausea that I always get from taking Cipro. What exactly does an Internist do?

Plus, my friend told me she finally got into seeing a dr. about her neck pain,

it's cery severe-after an MRI, they said she had arthritis and Stenosis. I know

I have Stenosis in my back-but is it possible to get it in your neck? They just

want to give her shots for now, but I'm just wondering if you can have stenosis

in your neck?

Lastly- the dr. I last saw gave me Celexa, it's ben 3 weeks, and I'm always

perspiring and have terrible dry mouth, even though I keep plenty of water

around, and SF popsicles. I'm having horrible stomach cramps too since I've

begun taking it-I just double up in pain. Is that normal for Celexa-or could it

be because I had a gastric bypass about 6 years ago? I'm glad I lost the weight,

but it seems I can't eat foods I used to be able to eat, and also have an ulcer.

Could an Internist switch me to a different anti-depressant? The dr. wanted me

to be able to stop taking Xanax, but haven't been able to. The Celexa did seem

to quiet my mind a bit, but the stomach cramps, dry mouth and perspiration are

killing me!

I'm hoping someone can help me with answers to this very long letter.

Thank you again

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

I chose to go to an internist instead of a gp for my primary care doctor. They

are probably more concerned with the inner workings of a body than a gp is. I

feel lucky to have found one that also treats patients with pain.

I would be concerned with the pain you are having in your abdomen since starting

Celexa. I don't know if a gastric bypass has anything to do with it but you

should not be having pain and it seems to me any good doctor would make sure you

don't have an ulcer or other problem related to the by pass or the medication.

Don't suffer with this pain, demand that they find the cause, find a doctor that

listens to you.

There are many antidepressants out there and they all have possible side

effects, some can be serious. On Web MD this is what I copied for you about

Celexa. Sounds like bleeding in the digestive tract is one of the serious side

effects. Sweating, dry mouth etc and others if you want to read for yourself.

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-8603-Celexa+Oral.aspx?drugid=8603 & drugname=Celex\

a+Oral

" Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side

effects occur: stomach pain, fainting, bloody/black/tarry stools, vomit

that looks like coffee grounds, easy bruising/bleeding, muscle

weakness/cramps, seizures, fast/irregular/pounding heartbeat,

difficulty urinating, change in the amount of urine. "

Jennette

________________________________

From: jeannieboo1 <jeannieboo1@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:45:16 PM

Subject: questions

Hi all,

Hope your weekend is good-I'm stressed as usual, I was hoping with the weather

change(we're in the low 90's now) that I would fel better, but already the

inflammation around my knee is starting, even though it's also been replaced.

I'm going to have to find a new dr. I was given a couple names, but they're

Internists-can they help me out with the same things that a Family dr. could?

Haven't ever been to one, and I'll never go back to the one I saw about 3 weeks

ago, a PA who looked fresh out of med. school and wouldn't give me anything for

nausea that I always get from taking Cipro. What exactly does an Internist do?

Plus, my friend told me she finally got into seeing a dr. about her neck pain,

it's cery severe-after an MRI, they said she had arthritis and Stenosis. I know

I have Stenosis in my back-but is it possible to get it in your neck? They just

want to give her shots for now, but I'm just wondering if you can have stenosis

in your neck?

Lastly- the dr. I last saw gave me Celexa, it's ben 3 weeks, and I'm always

perspiring and have terrible dry mouth, even though I keep plenty of water

around, and SF popsicles. I'm having horrible stomach cramps too since I've

begun taking it-I just double up in pain. Is that normal for Celexa-or could it

be because I had a gastric bypass about 6 years ago? I'm glad I lost the

weight, but it seems I can't eat foods I used to be able to eat, and also have

an ulcer. Could an Internist switch me to a different anti-depressant? The dr.

wanted me to be able to stop taking Xanax, but haven't been able to. The Celexa

did seem to quiet my mind a bit, but the stomach cramps, dry mouth and

perspiration are killing me!

I'm hoping someone can help me with answers to this very long letter.

Thank you again

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeannie,

An Internist is also called an Internal Medicine Doctor. He/She treats

mainly physiological problems like diabetes, Kidney, heart stuff with medicine.

They don't do surgery and should send difficult cases to specialists. So an

Internist is very similar to a Family doctor. And most Insurance plans treat

them as Primary Care Doctors.

Yes, you can absolutely have stenosis in the cervical spine - both spinal

canal stenosis and stenosis where the nerve roots exit the spine.

All Anti-depressants can cause indigestion and nausea. A smaller dose might

help. I could not tolerate Lexapro at any dose, but could tolerate small doses

of Zoloft. A lot of meds cause dry mouth.

It is very difficult to stop Xanax and must be done very gradually over

many months. Doctors do not appreciate that many people can not just switch

over to the antidepressant. If one stops the Xanax cold turkey, it is possible

to get very prolonged withdrawal symptoms that may take years to get over.

Getting off Xanax depends on how much you are taking and how small you can

cut the pills. At each SMALL dose reduction, you should stay on that level for

at least a couple of weeks so your brain has time to adjust. It took me months

to get off 1/2 milligram 3 times a day and that is a really small dose.

Remember that Zanax is one of the strongest of the benzodiazipines.

Take care,

Rochelle

-- In neck pain , " jeannieboo1 " <jeannieboo1@...> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> Hope your weekend is good-I'm stressed as usual, I was hoping with the weather

change(we're in the low 90's now) that I would fel better, but already the

inflammation around my knee is starting, even though it's also been replaced.

I'm going to have to find a new dr. I was given a couple names, but they're

Internists-can they help me out with the same things that a Family dr. could?

Haven't ever been to one, and I'll never go back to the one I saw about 3 weeks

ago, a PA who looked fresh out of med. school and wouldn't give me anything for

nausea that I always get from taking Cipro. What exactly does an Internist do?

> Plus, my friend told me she finally got into seeing a dr. about her neck pain,

it's cery severe-after an MRI, they said she had arthritis and Stenosis. I know

I have Stenosis in my back-but is it possible to get it in your neck? They just

want to give her shots for now, but I'm just wondering if you can have stenosis

in your neck?

> Lastly- the dr. I last saw gave me Celexa, it's ben 3 weeks, and I'm always

perspiring and have terrible dry mouth, even though I keep plenty of water

around, and SF popsicles. I'm having horrible stomach cramps too since I've

begun taking it-I just double up in pain. Is that normal for Celexa-or could it

be because I had a gastric bypass about 6 years ago? I'm glad I lost the

weight, but it seems I can't eat foods I used to be able to eat, and also have

an ulcer. Could an Internist switch me to a different anti-depressant? The dr.

wanted me to be able to stop taking Xanax, but haven't been able to. The Celexa

did seem to quiet my mind a bit, but the stomach cramps, dry mouth and

perspiration are killing me!

> I'm hoping someone can help me with answers to this very long letter.

> Thank you again

> Jeannie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. I have been on 4mg grams at nigth and when you start to decrese the med you

can have a lot anxitey.

________________________________

From: rccoc1977 <rccoc1977@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:00:22 PM

Subject: Re: questions

 

Dear Jeannie,

An Internist is also called an Internal Medicine Doctor. He/She treats mainly

physiological problems like diabetes, Kidney, heart stuff with medicine. They

don't do surgery and should send difficult cases to specialists. So an Internist

is very similar to a Family doctor. And most Insurance plans treat them as

Primary Care Doctors.

Yes, you can absolutely have stenosis in the cervical spine - both spinal canal

stenosis and stenosis where the nerve roots exit the spine.

All Anti-depressants can cause indigestion and nausea. A smaller dose might

help. I could not tolerate Lexapro at any dose, but could tolerate small doses

of Zoloft. A lot of meds cause dry mouth.

It is very difficult to stop Xanax and must be done very gradually over many

months. Doctors do not appreciate that many people can not just switch over to

the antidepressant. If one stops the Xanax cold turkey, it is possible to get

very prolonged withdrawal symptoms that may take years to get over.

Getting off Xanax depends on how much you are taking and how small you can cut

the pills. At each SMALL dose reduction, you should stay on that level for at

least a couple of weeks so your brain has time to adjust. It took me months to

get off 1/2 milligram 3 times a day and that is a really small dose. Remember

that Zanax is one of the strongest of the benzodiazipines.

Take care,

Rochelle

-- In PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com, " jeannieboo1 " <jeannieboo1@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> Hope your weekend is good-I'm stressed as usual, I was hoping with the weather

change(we're in the low 90's now) that I would fel better, but already the

inflammation around my knee is starting, even though it's also been replaced.

I'm going to have to find a new dr. I was given a couple names, but they're

Internists-can they help me out with the same things that a Family dr. could?

Haven't ever been to one, and I'll never go back to the one I saw about 3 weeks

ago, a PA who looked fresh out of med. school and wouldn't give me anything for

nausea that I always get from taking Cipro. What exactly does an Internist do?

> Plus, my friend told me she finally got into seeing a dr. about her neck pain,

it's cery severe-after an MRI, they said she had arthritis and Stenosis. I know

I have Stenosis in my back-but is it possible to get it in your neck? They just

want to give her shots for now, but I'm just wondering if you can have stenosis

in your neck?

> Lastly- the dr. I last saw gave me Celexa, it's ben 3 weeks, and I'm always

perspiring and have terrible dry mouth, even though I keep plenty of water

around, and SF popsicles. I'm having horrible stomach cramps too since I've

begun taking it-I just double up in pain. Is that normal for Celexa-or could it

be because I had a gastric bypass about 6 years ago? I'm glad I lost the weight,

but it seems I can't eat foods I used to be able to eat, and also have an ulcer.

Could an Internist switch me to a different anti-depressant? The dr. wanted me

to be able to stop taking Xanax, but haven't been able to. The Celexa did seem

to quiet my mind a bit, but the stomach cramps, dry mouth and perspiration are

killing me!

> I'm hoping someone can help me with answers to this very long letter.

> Thank you again

> Jeannie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have a couple of questions. First, I think you will be proud of me- some of you at least- that I ahve decided NOT to give ny son, noah the H1N1 shot. I was going to, we had signed up for it through the school and would ahve already had it if they hadn't have cancelled due to not enough vaccine. I think it was a God thing for me. Then, the more I litened to y'all and to other moms and the more I read, the more I felt it was not a good idea. However, with Norries disease, there is so little info in general about problems with it that I really don't want to chance him getting it and having possible complications. What can I do to build up his immune system other than the vitamins he takes each morning. I asked at GNC- our only natural stuff store around, and they told me to do the Reservatol(sp)chews- equivalent to a bunch of wine I think. I got home and looked at it and it talks about anit

aging and antioxidents etc. I don't know if that is appropriate for him or not. I was thinking chewable vitamin C , but the man said this was good, rather than C. I would appreciate any input- it does have to taste good to him though, or it will be a waste of money.

My 2nd question is - tonight I was driving back from Va Beach and went through the tunnel. I started feeling this weird sense of euphoria- kind of like I was pressing the accelerator but really didn't have ocntrol of the speed of the car(even though I did) It was a little dizzinsh too. Its kind of hard to explain. I thought after I came out of the tunnel, it would be beter, but it wasn't. It did get better eventually, but then it returned. I experienced the same thing some time last year, but that was when I was on Lyrica and I thought it was because of that. I have not been on Lyrica since early June. I am not on anything new or different, natural or pharmaceutical. Anybody else experienced this?

Sorry to be so long winded tonight. That second one was kind of scary. I didn't tell my parents or Noah who were in the car with me.

From: Pam Horne <pamhorne@...>Subject: Re: Hypothyroidism | IodinePlus2 - Women's Health Institute Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:22 PM

I'm taking this to my doctor with me.

Pam

Hypothyroidism | IodinePlus2 - Women's Health Institute

Your Head is Fine - Your Thyroid Isn't

http://www.1- thyroid.com/ ?gclid=CImV_ cO97p0CFQ0aawodi RieLg

I am still reading up on KELP for thyroid.... here is one article I found that may interest some.

Well….there’s good news and bad news.First the bad news: All the symptoms above – and a host of others – are caused by an under active thyroid, what the medical world calls hypothyroidism. It usually starts when we pass our middle 20s, getting progressively worse as we age. Many women really don't notice their symptoms until after childbirth… when it just hits you, seemingly out of nowhere. That “baby weight gain†isn’t lost. Depression and exhaustion are constant companions, and you just don’t feel “right†in your own body anymore. If you try talking to your doctor about it, you’ll be humored by being given a thyroid blood test. Of course, when it comes back it’ll say your thyroid is normal. You’ll then be told it’s “all in your head†and be given a prescription for an anti-depressant. But the fact of the matter is this…

Your “Head†is Fine…Your Thyroid Isn’t!

There’s a dirty little secret most doctors won’t discuss with you. When a medical test is done, any result within a wide range is deemed normal. Your thyroid could be functioning at 30% of peak efficiency, but your tests will say that’s fine. Well, it’s not fine. And you have the hair loss and the lethargy and the weight gain to prove it.

[Guest guest]

http://bodyecology.com/

> > > From: Pam Horne pamhorne@...> Subject: Re: Hypothyroidism | IodinePlus2 - Women's Health Institute> > Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 6:22 PM> > >  > > > > > I'm taking this to my doctor with me.>  > Pam>  >  > Hypothyroidism | IodinePlus2 - Women's Health Institute> >  > > > Your Head is Fine - Your Thyroid Isn't> http://www.1- thyroid.com/ ?gclid=CImV_ cO97p0CFQ0aawodi RieLg>  > I am still reading up on KELP for thyroid.... here is one article I found that may interest some.> > > > Well….there’s good news and bad news.> > First the bad news: All the symptoms above â€" and a host of others â€" are caused by an under active thyroid, what the medical world calls hypothyroidism. > > It usually starts when we pass our middle 20s, getting progressively worse as we age. Many women really don't notice their symptoms until after childbirth… when it just hits you, seemingly out of nowhere. That “baby weight gain†isn’t lost. Depression and exhaustion are constant companions, and you just don’t feel “right†in your own body anymore. > > If you try talking to your doctor about it, you’ll be humored by being given a thyroid blood test. Of course, when it comes back it’ll say your thyroid is normal. You’ll then be told it’s “all in your head†and be given a prescription for an anti-depressant. > > But the fact of the matter is this…> > > > Your “Head†is Fine…> Your Thyroid Isn’t!> > There’s a dirty little secret most doctors won’t discuss with you. When a medical test is done, any result within a wide range is deemed normal. Your thyroid could be functioning at 30% of peak efficiency, but your tests will say that’s fine. > > Well, it’s not fine. And you have the hair loss and the lethargy and the weight gain to prove it. > >  >

[Guest guest]

Hi - I received an email from BodyEcology this morning and accidentally deleted it. It related to your first question. At their site look on the left hand side you'll see the relevant H1N1 article. It may be useful in showing natural ways to build up immunity. Here's the link...

http://bodyecology.com/

Your euphoric state when driving. I'm not sure what happened there. For years my driving was affected so I guess anything's possible. Take care of yourself.

Hugs & Cheers

Carlene

>>  Hi>  I have a couple of questions. First, I think you will be proud of me- some of you at least- that I ahve decided NOT to give ny son, noah the H1N1 shot. I was going to, we had signed up for it through the school and would ahve already had it if they hadn't have cancelled due to not enough vaccine. I think it was a God thing for me. Then, the more I litened to y'all and to other moms and the more I read, the more I felt it was not a good idea. However, with Norries disease, there

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carlene,

I went to the site, but all I could find was a place where they wanted you to sign up for their teleseminar about H1N1 on the 19th. Did I miss something?

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Questions Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 8:33 PM

Hi - I received an email from BodyEcology this morning and accidentally deleted it. It related to your first question. At their site look on the left hand side you'll see the relevant H1N1 article. It may be useful in showing natural ways to build up immunity. Here's the link...

http://bodyecology. com/

Your euphoric state when driving. I'm not sure what happened there. For years my driving was affected so I guess anything's possible. Take care of yourself.

Hugs & Cheers

Carlene

>>  Hi>  I have a couple of questions. First, I think you will be proud of me- some of you at least- that I ahve decided NOT to give ny son, noah the H1N1 shot. I was going to, we had signed up for it through the school and would ahve already had it if they hadn't have cancelled due to not enough vaccine. I think it was a God thing for me. Then, the more I litened to y'all and to other moms and the more I read, the more I felt it was not a good idea. However, with Norries disease, there

[Guest guest]

- This newsletter turned up again so I hope it helps a bit more. Seems you can ask key questions of those conducting the teleseminar. That would be interesting. Good luck.

Hugs & Cheers

Carlene

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Tuesday, 3 November, 2009 5:54 AM

From:

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Key indicators of whether your immunity is strong enough, especially if you choose to get the vaccines.

How to be sure your vitamin levels are up to par, what to do if they are not and which supplements are most effective.

A protocol to help your whole family stay healthy this flu season and every season to come. This teleseminar is a must for anyone concerned about their health. Learn more about and register for the teleseiminar: Powerful Natural Secrets to Boost Your Immunity and Avoid the Flu. You can participate in this ground-breaking teleseminar from the comfort of your own home either by phone or on the web. Join us and learn how to take your immunity to the next level! And if you have questions for Donna Gates and Dr. Leonard about the flu shot, the swine flu vaccine or supporting your immunity, click here to ask your question. In good health, The Body Ecology Team

>> Thanks Carlene,> I went to the site, but all I could find was a place where they wanted you to sign up for their teleseminar about H1N1 on the 19th. Did I miss something?> >

[Guest guest]

- I thought the teleseminar was a freebie. Unfortunately it's not.

Now it's back to square one. We'll have to wait and see what else

turns up.

Hugs & Cheers

Carlene

>

>

> - This newsletter turned up again so I hope it helps a bit more.

> Seems you can ask key questions of those conducting the teleseminar.

> That would be interesting. Good luck.

>

> Hugs & Cheers

>

> Carlene

>

>

> New Evidence Exposes H1N1 and Flu Shot Dangers Tuesday, 3 November,

2009

> 5:54 AM From: " BodyEcology.com " reply@...

> <mailto:reply@... carlene.grimshaw@...

> [body Ecology] Body Ecology Training Event

> For over three decades, Null, PhD, has been one of the foremost

> advocates of alternative medicine and natural healing. A multi

> award-winning journalist and New York Times best-selling author, Dr.

> Null has written over 70 books on nutrition, self-empowerment and

public

> health issues.

>

> On October 13, 2009 Null, provided a powerful testimony to the

New

> York State Assembly on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.

>

> His assessment: There's no evidence that the flu shot and swine flu

> shot are safe or effective...so why, he asks, are we allowing our most

> vulnerable populations: mothers, children and senior citizens to be

> exposed to the dangers of these vaccines?

> Some of the quotes Dr. Null highlighted:

>

> The former Dr. J. Morse, the former Chief Vaccine Officer, top

> authority of the FDA said, " There is no evidence that any influenza

> vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating

any

> attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they

are

> worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway. "

>

> CDC officials have confessed, " Influenza vaccines are the least

> effective immunizing agents available, especially for the elderly and

> the children. "

>

> He goes on to say that when it comes to senior citizens, " We have

> epidemics of immune-related illness today: arthritis, diabetes, lupus,

> etc. " So he contends, this population of people should not be given

the

> swine flu vaccine when their immunity is low.

>

> Dr. Null finished by saying, " They [pharmaceutical companies] have no

> double blind placebo studies [showing the safety and efficacy of flu

> vaccines] and yet they are willing to expose our most vulnerable

> population...mothers, senior citizens and children. "

>

>

> What's a concerned person or parent to do?

> The thing is, whether you get vaccinated or not is YOUR choice. But if

> you DO choose to get the swine flu or flu vaccine, it's important to

> make sure your immunity is strong first.

[Guest guest]

Hey Carlene,

Thanks, yeah, I definitely can't afford the teleseminar. I just don't seem to be able to find the info I need anywhere for free. : (. His multivite has zinc, viramins C and D (supposedly 100 % of his recommended amount, but I jsut feel like I shuld be supplementing with more, however, I don't want to go off half cocked and pick the wrong things and make him sick.

Thanks,

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Questions Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:10 PM

- I thought the teleseminar was a freebie. Unfortunately it's not.Now it's back to square one. We'll have to wait and see what elseturns up.Hugs & CheersCarlene>>> - This newsletter turned up again so I hope it helps a bit more.> Seems you can ask key questions of those conducting the teleseminar.> That would be interesting. Good luck.>> Hugs & Cheers>> Carlene>>> New Evidence Exposes H1N1 and Flu Shot Dangers Tuesday, 3 November,2009> 5:54 AM From: "BodyEcology. com" reply@...> <mailto:reply@ ... carlene.grimshaw@ ...>

[body Ecology] Body Ecology Training Event> For over three decades, Null, PhD, has been one of the foremost> advocates of alternative medicine and natural healing. A multi> award-winning journalist and New York Times best-selling author, Dr.> Null has written over 70 books on nutrition, self-empowerment andpublic> health issues.>> On October 13, 2009 Null, provided a powerful testimony to theNew> York State Assembly on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.>> His assessment: There's no evidence that the flu shot and swine flu> shot are safe or effective... so why, he asks, are we allowing our most> vulnerable populations: mothers, children and senior citizens to be> exposed to the dangers of these vaccines?> Some of the quotes Dr. Null highlighted:>> The former Dr. J. Morse, the former Chief Vaccine Officer,

top> authority of the FDA said, "There is no evidence that any influenza> vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigatingany> attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that theyare> worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway.">> CDC officials have confessed, "Influenza vaccines are the least> effective immunizing agents available, especially for the elderly and> the children.">> He goes on to say that when it comes to senior citizens, "We have> epidemics of immune-related illness today: arthritis, diabetes, lupus,> etc." So he contends, this population of people should not be giventhe> swine flu vaccine when their immunity is low.>> Dr. Null finished by saying, "They [pharmaceutical companies] have no> double blind placebo studies [showing the safety and efficacy of flu> vaccines] and

yet they are willing to expose our most vulnerable> population.. .mothers, senior citizens and children.">>> What's a concerned person or parent to do?> The thing is, whether you get vaccinated or not is YOUR choice. But if> you DO choose to get the swine flu or flu vaccine, it's important to> make sure your immunity is strong first.

[Guest guest]

Sorry wrong maybe---- not me anyways try again ---- love & peace - out---- karen

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Questions Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 8:12 AM

- Your origianl question... "What can I do to build up his [Noah's] immune system other than the vitamins he takes each morning." If you don't already belong to a Norrie Disease/Syndrome forum there are heaps of them online. ND experts and other parents would surely be able to give you the answers you're looking for. The following links may be helpful.

Love & Hugs

www.madisonsfoundat ion.org/index. php/component/ option,com_ mpower/diseaseID ,411/

http://www.familyco nnect.org/ search.asp? action=results & ie=utf8 & oe=utf8 & filter=0 & q=Norrie+Disease & restrict= & restrict=FamilyConn ect & access=p & in=main & start=10

http://www.makingco ntact.org/ index.php? ci=1146

http://www.wrongdia gnosis.com/ medical/norrie_ syndrome. htm

http://www.archive. org/details/ CurrentNorrieDis easeResearch

http://www.medhelp. org/tags/ show/74390/ norrie-disease

http://www.archive. org/search. php?query= (collection: audio%20OR% 20mediatype: audio)%20AND% 20-mediatype: collection% 20AND%20subject: "Disease" & sort=-publicdate

http://organizedwis dom.com/Norrie_ Disease

>> Hey Carlene,> Thanks, yeah, I definitely can't afford the teleseminar. I just don't seem to be able to find the info I need anywhere for free. : (. His multivite has zinc, viramins C and D (supposedly 100 % of his recommended amount, but I jsut feel like I shuld be supplementing with more, however, I don't want to go off half cocked and pick the wrong things and make him sick.> Thanks,> >

[Guest guest]

Wow, I appreciate that Carlene. I do belong to a Norries group, but I didn't realize there were so many sites now. I guess, I can try them. I went to y'all first because everyone on here seems really versed in ways to try and stay or become healthy and stronger.

Thanks,

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Questions Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 3:12 AM

- Your origianl question... "What can I do to build up his [Noah's] immune system other than the vitamins he takes each morning." If you don't already belong to a Norrie Disease/Syndrome forum there are heaps of them online. ND experts and other parents would surely be able to give you the answers you're looking for. The following links may be helpful.

Love & Hugs

www.madisonsfoundat ion.org/index. php/component/ option,com_ mpower/diseaseID ,411/

http://www.familyco nnect.org/ search.asp? action=results & ie=utf8 & oe=utf8 & filter=0 & q=Norrie+Disease & restrict= & restrict=FamilyConn ect & access=p & in=main & start=10

http://www.makingco ntact.org/ index.php? ci=1146

http://www.wrongdia gnosis.com/ medical/norrie_ syndrome. htm

http://www.archive. org/details/ CurrentNorrieDis easeResearch

http://www.medhelp. org/tags/ show/74390/ norrie-disease

http://www.archive. org/search. php?query= (collection: audio%20OR% 20mediatype: audio)%20AND% 20-mediatype: collection% 20AND%20subject: "Disease" & sort=-publicdate

http://organizedwis dom.com/Norrie_ Disease

>> Hey Carlene,> Thanks, yeah, I definitely can't afford the teleseminar. I just don't seem to be able to find the info I need anywhere for free. : (. His multivite has zinc, viramins C and D (supposedly 100 % of his recommended amount, but I jsut feel like I shuld be supplementing with more, however, I don't want to go off half cocked and pick the wrong things and make him sick.> Thanks,> >

[Guest guest]

Hi - Trust me to forget to explain why I supplied so much info -

including some research material. Sometimes I feel like cfs/fibro has

re-arranged my brain and left it that way. :-)

As I was browsing some of the sources I began to see what appears to be

references to relevant nutritional treatments for kids with Norries

Disease. Some Norrie cases suggest specific nutritional deficiencies.

So I thought there's no use me giving you general kids

vitamin/supplement suggestions. Because Noah could inadvertently be

given too much or too little of the stuff. " Stuff " is a good word to use

when you can't think. LOL I figured that the more info you had access to

the better your chances of finding the right nutrient options for little

Noah. Hope I covered everything.

Hugs & Cheers

Carlene

>

> Wow, I appreciate that Carlene. I do belong to a Norries group,

but I didn't realize there were so many sites now. I guess, I can try

them. I went to y'all first because everyone on here seems really

versed in ways to try and stay or become healthy and stronger.

> Â

> Thanks,

> Â

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, okay, cool.

Thanks

K

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw@...>Subject: Re: Questions Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 9:14 PM

Hi - Trust me to forget to explain why I supplied so much info -including some research material. Sometimes I feel like cfs/fibro hasre-arranged my brain and left it that way. :-)As I was browsing some of the sources I began to see what appears to bereferences to relevant nutritional treatments for kids with NorriesDisease. Some Norrie cases suggest specific nutritional deficiencies.So I thought there's no use me giving you general kidsvitamin/supplement suggestions. Because Noah could inadvertently begiven too much or too little of the stuff. "Stuff" is a good word to usewhen you can't think. LOL I figured that the more info you had access tothe better your chances of finding the right nutrient options for littleNoah. Hope I covered everything.Hugs & CheersCarlene>> Wow, I appreciate that Carlene. I do belong to a Norries group,but I didn't realize there were so many sites now. I guess, I can trythem. I went to y'all first because everyone on here seems reallyversed in ways to try and stay or become healthy and stronger.> Â> Thanks,> Â>

[Guest guest]

It is impossible to register for discussion groups. I am extremely conversant in computer usage but have never once been able successfully to log on to a discussion group. Is there an alternative?

On 12/8/09 10:10 AM, " Kusin " <davidkusin@...> wrote:

Are there lists of common questions and answers I could browse?

[Guest guest]

From: Kusin <davidkusin@...>Subject: Questions Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 11:10 AM

Are there lists of common questions and answers I could browse?

Here are some frequently asked questions collected by the ACOR CLL eList:

http://cll.acor.org/cllfaq/questions.html

There are many other good links on the ACOR Help Page. See:

http://cll.acor.org/help.htmNellie of Manhattanage 78, dx 6/99Seize the day!

[Guest guest]

Dear Nellie,

Many thanks.

Age 60, dx 8/18/08

On 12/8/09 10:28 AM, " nell day " <thrushlistener@...> wrote:

From: Kusin <davidkusin@...>

Subject: Questions

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 11:10 AM

Are there lists of common questions and answers I could browse?

Here are some frequently asked questions collected by the ACOR CLL eList:

http://cll.acor.org/cllfaq/questions.html

There are many other good links on the ACOR Help Page. See:

http://cll.acor.org/help.htm

Nellie of Manhattan

age 78, dx 6/99

Seize the day!

[Guest guest]

Hi Greg I was diagnosed with A 22 yrs ago. I have had multi dilations, Heller's

myotomy and ectomy. I haven't posted anything for a while but I plan to start

checking in more often.

This group is great and they understand our problems. Family and friends

usually have no clue of what we are going thru. When I first started going to Dr

they thought I was bolimic. I kept telling them that the food just wouldn't go

down. It took a long time to finally get the right diagnosis. Cleveland Clinic

diagnosed me the first day and I have been going there ever since. If you live

any where near it go there. You can email me at sld100259@... if you

want and anyone else wants to email me feel free. Sherry from Ohio

>

> I am new to this group, but not to Achalasia. I am almost 70 years old

> and have been fighting it for better than half of my life. I have good

> days and bad days, but probably more good than bad. I used to get

> dilatations but I having been going in about once a year for a BoTox,

> for many years. ly I don't think the injections are helping that

> much anymore. Recently I was seeing my Gastro Doctor about another

> matter and he suggested I talk to a surgeon about a procedure. If he

> named it I don't recall but after reading on this list I'm pretty sure

> it is a myotomy.

>

> What I'd like to hear is how successful has this procedure been for

> others on this list? Has the effects been long lasting? Would you

> consider yourself " cured " ? I know they say that acid reflux is an after

> effect of the surgery. How bad has that been? Do you require constant,

> ongoing medication? Over the counter or RX? Are you glad you had the

> surgery? How long was your recovery period? Any other thoughts or

> suggestions that you have. I'm undecided since I do not have constant

> problems.

>

> My second issue is that my wife, of 7 years, is convinced that the only

> reason is that I " eat too fast " . She actually gets angry with me when I

> have an episode. I realize that you need to be careful when you eat, so

> that you can swallow OK, but I also think that, at times, no matter how

> careful you are you are just going to get " bound up " and not be able to

> swallow and then have to get through the vomit/spitting up routine. As

> all of you know this can be VERY frustrating and embarrassing,

> particularly in a social setting where others around do not understand.

> Have any of you out there had a spouse that was less than understanding

> and how did you cope, and hopefully turn their thinking around?

>

> Your input would be appreciated,

>

> --

> Greg

> Greenwood, IN

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Greg...I had the heller myotomy about5 months ago.I doing wonderful..no

meds and eatting any and verything i want,with no problems,@ all...picked up all

my weight ,that i had lossed..feeling great and looking great once again..so far

i'm back to normal..wish i had of had this surgery 7 years ago..when my doctor

,offered to perform it for free...i tuened it down..wasn't sure of his exp.few

years ago moved to florida and the a got worst...cann't get water down sometimes

as wellas food...no's about the vomitting  your food ,back up,because it get

stuck in the throat..and the spasm...so far after the heller...no

problems...feels so wonderful to eat in public again...so if the heller would

help you...go for it..it took me about  2 months to be back to

normal......hospital recovery was 4 days...should've been out the net day...but

the doctor said ,i had a diffuclt surgery,because while inside ..he spotted

another problem and had to correct it as

well.....but as is well...go get your health back..god bless and good

luck...fred ..ps  if you have anymore queston feel free call upon

me...fks4677@...

________________________________

From: SHERRYD <sld102@...>

achalasia

Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 9:37:05 AM

Subject: Re: Questions

 

Hi Greg I was diagnosed with A 22 yrs ago. I have had multi dilations, Heller's

myotomy and ectomy. I haven't posted anything for a while but I plan to start

checking in more often.

This group is great and they understand our problems. Family and friends usually

have no clue of what we are going thru. When I first started going to Dr they

thought I was bolimic. I kept telling them that the food just wouldn't go down.

It took a long time to finally get the right diagnosis. Cleveland Clinic

diagnosed me the first day and I have been going there ever since. If you live

any where near it go there. You can email me at sld100259hotmail (DOT) com if you

want and anyone else wants to email me feel free. Sherry from Ohio

>

> I am new to this group, but not to Achalasia. I am almost 70 years old

> and have been fighting it for better than half of my life. I have good

> days and bad days, but probably more good than bad. I used to get

> dilatations but I having been going in about once a year for a BoTox,

> for many years. ly I don't think the injections are helping that

> much anymore. Recently I was seeing my Gastro Doctor about another

> matter and he suggested I talk to a surgeon about a procedure. If he

> named it I don't recall but after reading on this list I'm pretty sure

> it is a myotomy.

>

> What I'd like to hear is how successful has this procedure been for

> others on this list? Has the effects been long lasting? Would you

> consider yourself " cured " ? I know they say that acid reflux is an after

> effect of the surgery. How bad has that been? Do you require constant,

> ongoing medication? Over the counter or RX? Are you glad you had the

> surgery? How long was your recovery period? Any other thoughts or

> suggestions that you have. I'm undecided since I do not have constant

> problems.

>

> My second issue is that my wife, of 7 years, is convinced that the only

> reason is that I " eat too fast " . She actually gets angry with me when I

> have an episode. I realize that you need to be careful when you eat, so

> that you can swallow OK, but I also think that, at times, no matter how

> careful you are you are just going to get " bound up " and not be able to

> swallow and then have to get through the vomit/spitting up routine. As

> all of you know this can be VERY frustrating and embarrassing,

> particularly in a social setting where others around do not understand.

> Have any of you out there had a spouse that was less than understanding

> and how did you cope, and hopefully turn their thinking around?

>

> Your input would be appreciated,

>

> --

> Greg

> Greenwood, IN

>

[Guest guest]

I gave Ernesto $25.00. And I gave it to him when he dropped me off in San Diego when I was going home. The nurses are paid very little money. So a small gift of a tip maybe to the nurse that you liked the most or a small amount say$10.00 if you are going to be tipping more than one nurse. I gave a tip to this sweet girl who was always cleaning and she was trying so hard to learn to speak English. She was so excited when I gave her a tip. Food is really cheap for anyone who is going with you if the eat in the hospital cafe--and the food is excellent--tell her to ask for the menu that is in English--they have one. The food was reasonable at the hotel, but I didn't find it was that great. The food is listed in their money so when you look at it you need to know it looks like it cost a lot. Just know how to convert it or ask them what it is in US Dollars. I always used my debit or credit card and so I knew I was paying in US Dollars. You will need to take enough if you are going to buy medication at the Pharmacy in Mexico--I high recommend it costs soooooo much less in Mexico and it is about 2 buildings away from the hospital same side of the street. I took $300.00 and come home with money left over. When I went back with a friend when I learned to use my debit or credit card for things other than tips--you can add the tip on your card too if you want. Mostly when I was eating out. You can always ask them what it cost in US dollars--at the Pharmacy too. They will take your US dollars, but sometimes they want to give you back their money for you change if you get. So that is why I used my credit or debit card.

Ernesto picks you up in San Diego, take you to the hotel, picks you up in the morning and then takes you back to San Diego, so that is why I tipped him more.

Suzanne

In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:50:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tapplunk@... writes:

I am wondering how much we should tip Ernesto and I also something on here about the nurses...do u tip them also?? How expensive were meals??How much extra money should u take??

[Guest guest]

Hi. Tell the everything... Give them your worst day problems and pain to get

ssi. the worst things are the more like they will not deny you. good luck..

________________________________

From: Jane <borlan9191962@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 12:34:36 PM

Subject: Questions

 

Good Afternoon Group.

I have a question for the group members who have experience with Social Security

Disability. I am at the 2nd stage-reconsiderati on, they have made an

appointment for me with one of their doctors for General Medical Exam, Physical

Exam, Blood Tests, and x-ray.

I filed originally due to many spinal issues as well as a compromised liver and

severe drug sensitivity (can't take pain meds. or hardly any other meds.).. My

Orthopedists says I am not a candidate for surgery. He wrote and submitted a

narrative to SS stating that I am disabled permananly and why. I have other

issues such as severe arthritis in hands and knees, etc.

How should I handle this appointment. ? Should I bring up issues or just answer

their direct questions? Is there anything I should or shouldn't do? Any advice

would be very much appreciated.

I'm sure there are many out there who are now or will be going through this same

situation. Disability veterans we need your expert advice.

Thanks,

Jane H.

[Guest guest]

Hi. Tell the everything... Give them your worst day problems and pain to get

ssi. the worst things are the more like they will not deny you. good luck..

________________________________

From: Jane <borlan9191962@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 12:34:36 PM

Subject: Questions

 

Good Afternoon Group.

I have a question for the group members who have experience with Social Security

Disability. I am at the 2nd stage-reconsiderati on, they have made an

appointment for me with one of their doctors for General Medical Exam, Physical

Exam, Blood Tests, and x-ray.

I filed originally due to many spinal issues as well as a compromised liver and

severe drug sensitivity (can't take pain meds. or hardly any other meds.).. My

Orthopedists says I am not a candidate for surgery. He wrote and submitted a

narrative to SS stating that I am disabled permananly and why. I have other

issues such as severe arthritis in hands and knees, etc.

How should I handle this appointment. ? Should I bring up issues or just answer

their direct questions? Is there anything I should or shouldn't do? Any advice

would be very much appreciated.

I'm sure there are many out there who are now or will be going through this same

situation. Disability veterans we need your expert advice.

Thanks,

Jane H.

[Guest guest]

At 09:02 PM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi. Tell the everything... Give them your worst day problems and

>pain to get ssi. the worst things are the more like they will not

>deny you. good luck..

The main thing is arrive with all of the medical backup you can

gather. The statement from your doctor is great, him saying you are

permanently disabled will carry weight. They also look at your mental

health. I've been told in some states mental health, depression

carries more weight than physical. The biggest thing is to be honest

and don't exaggerate. These Doctors see all kinds, all day long, they

can see through someone who is exaggerating or faking. I'm not saying

you are, but even exaggerating can go against you. I wont on my

second appeal by having all the medical evidence I could gather

including a letter from the doctor who did my surgery that I was

disabled in his professional view. I think that nailed it. Good luck, Dave