Blood work

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Hepatitis C is treated with a drug called peginterferon, usually in combination

with the drug ribavirin.

You may need surgery if you have hepatitis C for many years. Over time,

hepatitis C can cause your liver to stop working.

it can lead to liver cancer, liver failure or cirrhosis — irreversible and

potentially fatal scarring of the liver.

If that happens, you will need a new liver. The surgery is called a liver

transplant. It involves taking out the old, damaged liver and putting in a new,

healthy one from a donor.

Medication is currently available for treatment of chronic hepatitis C. The most

effective medication is the combination of peginterferon and ribavirin.

Treatment with this medication is successful in eradicating HCV in about half of

infected patients. This is called a sustained virologic response (SVR). Current

studies suggest that HCV will probably never return in patients with a sustained

virologic response unless they are once again exposed to this virus. No vaccine

currently exists to prevent infection in an individual that is exposed to HCV.

Patients who achieve a SVR following treatment with peginterferon and ribavirin

have an improvement in the degree of liver injury with loss of fibrosis and a

return of the liver towards normal. This is called histologic improvement.

Histologic improvement has also been reported to occur in some patients who did

not achieve a sustained virologic response following treatment with

peginterferon and ribavirin.

> From: fiar@... <fiar@...>

> Subject: Blood work

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 11:47 AM

> Twigs and Bark! (That's what my friend calls a lot of

> the " alternative " stuff I do....he does some

> too...)

>

> Well, as some here know, I'm living with Hep C but so

> far not HIV+ (tho I am queer and used to shoot drugs).

>

> My recent bloodwork was a bit of a happy surprise. For the

> second time, my hep C viral load was very low--even lower

> than last test: 1940 IU/ml. My liver enzymes were just a

> little elevated (last check they were normal). Other blood

> work is normal (platelets good), etc. On palpation, the

> liver is not enlarged or stiff.

>

> I can attribute this to not only diet, sleeping, exercise

> but also a selection of antioxidants and herbs. For a guy

> pushing 50, it ain't bad. But my list of stuff is also

> fairly costly. It SHOULD be covered (but then I don't

> have health insurance at all).

>

> Of course, while these numbers don't correlate with

> progression as HIV load or CD4 counts do, the numbers are

> all in the right places.

>

> I'll post my current protocol later or email me if you

> would like a copy.

> M.

>

>

> M.

> Director, FIAR

> http://www.fiar.us

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[Guest guest]

All Mark says is quite true. There are many issues to consider, of

course.

I've had hep C for probably nearly 30 years...my liver is fine. But

also, I'm not contending with HIV.

I have genotype 1 - not so responsive to the potentially onerous peg-

interferon/ribavirin therapy. There is no real reason for ME to use

it--but there are many other situations where it may be advisable.

Certainly, for example, if I had genotype 2 or 3, I'd give it a shot

(...er....)

If I was African American with Genotype 1--I'd think twice. SVR is

much less in that population. Other treatments are desperately needed

and there seem to be quite a few in the pipeline. Can one wait?

Again, it depends on a lot of issues. Advancing disease? Maybe time

to give it a shot. Depends on what ARVs one is using too--some don't

mix well with ribavirin.

I shared my story to say there are other things one can do. Some of

these may also work WITH treatment. I've got nothing against drugs.

If a good protease inhibitor comes out, maybe with a helicase

inhibitor? I'll give it a try! Depends.

How can we offset side effects? How can we help people that either

don't want to risk the onerous side effects or for whom therapy has

failed? I'm stating out loud and proud that there are other things to

do aside from just awaiting cirrhosis or liver cancer!

And guess what? No matter what we do, we all still wind up dead. So

part of it is enjoying life. And part of it is also saying to the

extent these things CAN help, they should be covered, available and

not cost an arm and a leg. While supplements are cheaper than

genocidally overpriced drugs, they're still expensive.

We should have a universal health care system. Period. Well...these

things are all related, and thanks, Mark, for the good primer on the

basis.

M.

[Guest guest]

Interesting that the discussion of blood work came up today. I just

had mine taken. Now that I'm starting to loose a little weight, I

wanted to check it out, since last year it wasn't good (it wasn't

horrible either thank God). Hopefully, next year it will be even better.

May God give us all strength to get through this and find ways to make

improvement in our lives.

Jaron

>

> I have Diabetes so i have to get blood work every 6 months i fast and

> get blood drawn I know lack of exerise and being in pain can cause

> higher bood levels stress pain they both cause higher blood pressure

> etc.. mike group owner

>

[Guest guest]

The only problem I have with my blood last time it was taken is that my

cholesterol was 202 and my iron was pretty low. I have problems with

absorption

because I gastric bypass in 2001. I would advise nobody to have that done

and don't let anyone you know have it done. Even with the weight loss, the

malabsorption causes a LOT of problems. I have had to have iron infusions and

blood transfusions. SCARY!

In a message dated 8/5/2008 3:15:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jmatlow@... writes:

Interesting that the discussion of blood work came up today. I just

had mine taken. Now that I'm starting to loose a little weight, I

wanted to check it out, since last year it wasn't good (it wasn't

horrible either thank God). Hopefully, next year it will be even better.

May God give us all strength to get through this and find ways to make

improvement in our lives.

Jaron

>

> I have Diabetes so i have to get blood work every 6 months i fast and

> get blood drawn I know lack of exerise and being in pain can cause

> higher bood levels stress pain they both cause higher blood pressure

> etc.. mike group owner

>

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[Guest guest]

HEY GANG...

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK...I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY

THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT ALL....THE

MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND IT TOOK 1

1/2 HOURS TO DO THEM.

I HAVE FINALLY GIVEN INTO IT AND NOW THEY KNOW ME AT THE HOSPITAL I GO

TO...AND THEY HAVE 5 TRIES...AFTER THAT UNFORTNATLEY, I NEED A CENTRAL LINE. I

HAVE HAD 14 OF THEM IN THE PAST 6 YEARS.

NOW, FOR BLOODWORK...IT IS THE SAME....BUT THERE IS NO CENTRAL LINE FOR

THAT...ESPECIALLY IN THE OFFICE OR AT QUEST...

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET MY BLOOD DRAWN FOR THE PAST ALMOST 10 MONTHS

NOW...

AND OF COURSE I AM TERRIFIED EVERY TIME THEY STICK AND STICK AND STICK THAT

THE RSD IS GOING TO SPREAD EVEN WORSE.

BEFORE I GOT HURT, I WOULD JUST DRAW MY OWN BLOOD...OF COURSE FROM THE FOOT

THAT HAS THE WORST RSD IN IT NOW.....SO THAT IS NOT HAPPENING ANY MORE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A PLACE THEY GO TO AND SWEAR BY THEM...I LIVE IN BENSALEM,

PA.

ANY IDEAS?

LOVE YOUR PIN CUSHION, KATHY G. LOL

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,,,

hope your haveing a fairly pain free day,,,

I am also a hard stick.. last year when i was in hospital,, a nurse

got a towelwet and real hot, then wraped it around my arm,,, The

VAIN stuck right up,, and it didnt run away from the needle,,, my

vains are very scared of needles and run away,, but this really

helped,, I have them do that now,, It doesnt work eveytime but most

times it does.. just using the warm blankets dont work,, it need to

be a HOT WET TOWEL,,, and I will tell them so,, they have tryed the

warm blanket with no luck,,, im so sorry that they have such a hard

time with them,,, maybe this will help,,

soft hugs and love to ya

>

> HEY GANG...

>

> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

>

> SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK...I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME

PEOPLE SAY

> THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

> IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT

ALL....THE

> MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND

IT TOOK 1

> >

> >

> ]

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

You poor thing! I know how painful and frustrating that is. I was in the

hospital 5 times last year, lengthy stays each time, and it destroyed my veins.

I never had a problem before having blood drawn or an IV started. I now have

what they call hospital veins. Every 3 days they had to change the IV, I would

cringe. Then they would have to draw my blood several times a day. They

usually, but not always, can get my blood in the crease of the elbow now that's

it's been a while since I was in the hospital. If I go in for a nerve block, if

the nurse can't start the IV after 2 tries, the Dr starts it. Sometimes the Dr.

can't get it on the first try. I also worry if I have to go into the hospital. I

live in NY so unfortunately I don't know anywhere for you to go for blood.

Sorry. Good Luck. You are so right. It isn't any fun being a pin cushion LOL.

Sue C

Re: Re: Blood work

HEY GANG...

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK...I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY

THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT ALL....THE

MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND IT TOOK 1

1/2 HOURS TO DO THEM.

I HAVE FINALLY GIVEN INTO IT AND NOW THEY KNOW ME AT THE HOSPITAL I GO

TO...AND THEY HAVE 5 TRIES...AFTER THAT UNFORTNATLEY, I NEED A CENTRAL LINE. I

HAVE HAD 14 OF THEM IN THE PAST 6 YEARS.

NOW, FOR BLOODWORK...IT IS THE SAME....BUT THERE IS NO CENTRAL LINE FOR

THAT...ESPECIALLY IN THE OFFICE OR AT QUEST...

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET MY BLOOD DRAWN FOR THE PAST ALMOST 10 MONTHS

NOW...

AND OF COURSE I AM TERRIFIED EVERY TIME THEY STICK AND STICK AND STICK THAT

THE RSD IS GOING TO SPREAD EVEN WORSE.

BEFORE I GOT HURT, I WOULD JUST DRAW MY OWN BLOOD...OF COURSE FROM THE FOOT

THAT HAS THE WORST RSD IN IT NOW.....SO THAT IS NOT HAPPENING ANY MORE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A PLACE THEY GO TO AND SWEAR BY THEM...I LIVE IN BENSALEM,

PA.

ANY IDEAS?

LOVE YOUR PIN CUSHION, KATHY G. LOL

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[Guest guest]

Re: Blood work

Hi Kathy,,,

hope your haveing a fairly pain free day,,,

I am also a hard stick.. last year when i was in hospital,, a nurse

got a towelwet and real hot, then wraped it around my arm,,, The

VAIN stuck right up,, and it didnt run away from the needle,,, my

vains are very scared of needles and run away,, but this really

helped,, I have them do that now,, It doesnt work eveytime but most

times it does.. just using the warm blankets dont work,, it need to

be a HOT WET TOWEL,,, and I will tell them so,, they have tryed the

warm blanket with no luck,,, im so sorry that they have such a hard

time with them,,, maybe this will help,,

soft hugs and love to ya

>

> HEY GANG...

>

> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

>

> SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK...I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME

PEOPLE SAY

> THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

> IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT

ALL....THE

> MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND

IT TOOK 1

> >

> >

> ]

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the tip about the hot wet towel.

Sue C

Re: Blood work

Hi Kathy,,,

hope your haveing a fairly pain free day,,,

I am also a hard stick.. last year when i was in hospital,, a nurse

got a towelwet and real hot, then wraped it around my arm,,, The

VAIN stuck right up,, and it didnt run away from the needle,,, my

vains are very scared of needles and run away,, but this really

helped,, I have them do that now,, It doesnt work eveytime but most

times it does.. just using the warm blankets dont work,, it need to

be a HOT WET TOWEL,,, and I will tell them so,, they have tryed the

warm blanket with no luck,,, im so sorry that they have such a hard

time with them,,, maybe this will help,,

soft hugs and love to ya

>

> HEY GANG...

>

> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

>

> SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK...I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME

PEOPLE SAY

> THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

> IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT

ALL....THE

> MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND

IT TOOK 1

> >

> >

> ]

>

[Guest guest]

Besides a hot towel, I use the hot hand warmers and foot warmers that the deer

hunters use during the winter months.  When they go on clearance is when I stock

up b/c my veins roll as well.  Another thing that helps is I made a homemade

bean bag of beans and heated it up for about 5 minutes and put it on my arm to

draw the veins to the top of the skin.  One can use pinto beans, rice or corn in

the bag.  My grandma told me thatlong time ago

a

From: Theodore Corn <sueandtedc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Blood work

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 12:17 PM

Thanks for the tip about the hot wet towel.

Sue C

Re: Blood work

Hi Kathy,,,

hope your haveing a fairly pain free day,,,

I am also a hard stick.. last year when i was in hospital,, a nurse

got a towelwet and real hot, then wraped it around my arm,,, The

VAIN stuck right up,, and it didnt run away from the needle,,, my

vains are very scared of needles and run away,, but this really

helped,, I have them do that now,, It doesnt work eveytime but most

times it does.. just using the warm blankets dont work,, it need to

be a HOT WET TOWEL,,, and I will tell them so,, they have tryed the

warm blanket with no luck,,, im so sorry that they have such a hard

time with them,,, maybe this will help,,

soft hugs and love to ya

>

> HEY GANG...

>

> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL....

>

> SPEAKING OF BLOODWORK... I HAVE EXTREMELY POOR VEINS...I KNOW SOME

PEOPLE SAY

> THAT THEY ARE " DIFFICULT STICKS " ...WHEN I SAY THIS......I MEAN

> IT!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!

>

> IT TAKES ABOUT 15-30 STICKS FOR AN IV....I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AT

ALL....THE

> MOST STICKS THAT I HAVE HAD TO DATE FOR AN IV WAS 30 STICKS AND

IT TOOK 1

> >

> >

> ]

>

[Guest guest]

I get my blood checked all the time,I feel like a pin cushion lol I go twice a

week to get my coumadin(blood thinner) levels checked,and then I go once every

other week to get a full work up,man I tell ya,when I was in the hospital before

they figured out it was Still's Disease,I was there for 11 days and I counted 63

viles of blood were taken from me,and I think I had every test done known to

mankind,and of course,only someone like my self would count how many lol

[Guest guest]

I get my blood checked all the time,I feel like a pin cushion lol I go twice a

week to get my coumadin(blood thinner) levels checked,and then I go once every

other week to get a full work up,man I tell ya,when I was in the hospital before

they figured out it was Still's Disease,I was there for 11 days and I counted 63

viles of blood were taken from me,and I think I had every test done known to

mankind,and of course,only someone like my self would count how many lol

[Guest guest]

>

> POST TX 14 DAYS,.HAD MY BLOOD WORK DONE TODAY,.WISH ME LUCK HUGS MARV

>

>

> " BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE "

>Good LUCK our prayers are with you

lots of HUGS lindah

[Guest guest]

>

> POST TX 14 DAYS,.HAD MY BLOOD WORK DONE TODAY,.WISH ME LUCK HUGS MARV

>

>

> " BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE "

>Good LUCK our prayers are with you

lots of HUGS lindah

[Guest guest]

Hi Nick

Sheila has suggested that I send you my results so that you can help me

decide whether I am on the right dosage etc. However, I must say that

when I wrote yesterday I was not at all well but today there is quite an

improvement and so I am wondering whether I just need to wait and see

what evolves.

My bloods were all normal except for Ferritin which was slightly

raised. This was the case three years ago when I had tests in Belgium.

The thyroid results after starting NT are:

TSH -0.1

T4 17.1(11.5-22.7)

Free T3 8.5(3.5-6.5)

My GP was concerned at these levels but I assured her I was happy with

these.

I now take 4NX plus 20/25HC plus 3gns NT. I would add that my basal

temp is still only 97 but better than it was. Yesterday it was only

96.2 and at night about the same. My pulse has risen from 50 to between

57 and 60

Your comments will be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:32:11 +0100, you wrote:

> However, I must say that

>when I wrote yesterday I was not at all well but today there is quite an

>improvement and so I am wondering whether I just need to wait and see

>what evolves.

>

>My bloods were all normal except for Ferritin which was slightly

>raised. This was the case three years ago when I had tests in Belgium.

>The thyroid results after starting NT are:

>TSH -0.1

>T4 17.1(11.5-22.7)

>Free T3 8.5(3.5-6.5)

Those don't look unreasonable, how long after taking meds was the

blood draw??

>

>My GP was concerned at these levels but I assured her I was happy with

>these.

Yes

>

>I now take 4NX plus 20/25HC plus 3gns NT. I would add that my basal

>temp is still only 97 but better than it was. Yesterday it was only

>96.2 and at night about the same. My pulse has risen from 50 to between

>57 and 60

>

You are still functionally hypo with temperatures like that and

shouldn't be with a FT3 of 8. This means that the T3 is not getting

into the cells. There are 3 common causes plus some uncommon ones

1 Adrenal issues. Have your daily average temperatures as per Dr

Rind timings stabilised??

2 Iron, Ferritin is OK, have you had any other parameters

checked like % saturation??

3 Reverse T3, my guess is this is most likely

The protocol for clearing reverse T3 is also good for dealing with

other causes of resistance which is to go onto T3 only.

Have a read through here

www.thyroid-rt3.com

and feel free to ask questions.

Nick

>Your comments will be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi Audrey, I was hoping that if Nick saw your last thyroid

results, he might be able to tell whether you could be suffering with a reverse

T3 problem.

You are probably still not taking enough adrenal support with

your last Genova Results at rock bottom Audrey, any possibility that you could

try an increase to see if this would help. Your temperatures should start to

rise and you would feel much better.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Nick

Sheila has suggested that I send you my results so that you can help me

decide whether I am on the right dosage etc. However, I must say that

when I wrote yesterday I was not at all well but today there is quite an

improvement and so I am wondering whether I just need to wait and see

what evolves.

My bloods were all normal except for Ferritin which was slightly

raised. This was the case three years ago when I had tests in Belgium.

The thyroid results after starting NT are:

TSH -0.1

T4 17.1(11.5-22.7)

Free T3 8.5(3.5-6.5)

My GP was concerned at these levels but I assured her I was happy with

t

I now take 4NX plus 20/25HC plus 3gns NT. I would add that my basal

temp is still only 97 but better than it was. Yesterday it was only

96.2 and at night about the same. My pulse has risen from 50 to between

57 and 60

Your comments will be appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

I have a future client who was told by a physician that her child could not

do hbot until his bloodwork came back " normal " . The specific concerns were

ammonia and b12 levels. This child has seizures. I would appreciate any

comments---I haven't heard of this bloodwork requirement before.

--

Donna Bateman

Neurodevelopmental Specialist

www.parentswithpurpose.com

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