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To answer your question, Alok, it would be me!!!

Alok,,,,,,this got me (Laughing Out Loud) LOL. Especially after reading your

post regarding the formation of gallstones during a flush as being caused by

the mix of oil and acidic fruit juice.

Too bad the list has had so much of the archive deleted, for what ever

reason it happened. Had it not had so much deleted you would then have been

able to read my past posts regarding what had happened to me from February

to October of 1999. If it was all there, you would have also been able to

read the report I got from a chemist who is involved in the manufacture of

soap, regarding the possible formation of a stones as saponification from

the mix of oil and fruit juice going through the human body. His report, in

the most simplest of terms noted that it just ain't goin'a happen. We could

get into a lot of the factors regarding the manufacture of soap, but it

really, literally boils (pun intended) down to heat, alkali, and fats and

what it takes to make soap or have what is called saponification from

combining those substances.

My story is that I had various painful awakings in the early morning hours

of which were leading up to two hospital visits within three days. At the

first visit they simply did and X-ray of which is worthless for finding

gallstones unless they are calcified, and on the second visit they did an

MRI of which showed what they called " A " stone along with a thickened and

diseased gallbladder of which was in danger of breaking open and becoming a

potential cause of death. I was told that I should go to this one particular

doctor and see about having it removed within the next two weeks. (pretty

scary report to get from a doctor,,, wouldn't you say?)

Well, I decided to do something different. I researched the Internet and

found various sites of which related to the flushing of gallbladder and

started on a regimen of preparation to doing a flush. Now, keep in mind I

had no support group such as this and was doing this all on a leap of faith.

But, I did however contact a few people and talked to them directly. One

person with whom I talked was Chang. I ordered Gold Coin Grass from

her to soften and hopefully breakup this single large stone I was noted as

having from the MRI. It must have worked because there is a picture of my

stones in the online group files.

I am a rather stubborn person and then too a bit on the lazy side, so at

that time I didn't do enough research to realize the importance of the

liver, gallbladder, pancreas and intestine's synergetic relationship. This

lead to my diet not taking into consideration each of these organs and what

they needed to do the job of keeping my body in a proper balance. Well, what

happened was that from August to October I was on such a strict diet, so

void of fats that it started to cause liver damage. I had the worst attack

of all when driving home from work, after having eaten a fat free meal. Now

this was a shock!!! I mean to tell you I had the choice of driving in the

traffic in so much pain when I would much rather have been rolling around

on the ground. I had the choice of pulling over to do that by calling 911 or

simply endure it and get home and have my wife drive me to the hospital just

a few miles away, which is what I did and was then at the hospital within

fifteen minutes

At the hospital it was a very very busy Saturday so I didn't even get to see

a doctor for over an hour and a half. Well, to entertain my wife and I, I

learned how to roll around a gurney front to back side to back back to back

and any other imaginable position you can acquire. This was to herd off the

shakes you get from trying to lay still. They finally gave me a shot, which

was next to worthless as it didn't even hardly seem to start on the pain,

and then they rolled me to the ultrasound machine. There the attendant had

to call another attendant and they both where trying to find what the

hospital report from my previous visits noted as " A " stone.... They really

were trying,,, changing the level of the power setting, moving the probe,,,

readjusting things again, and again, bless their hearts,,,,,,,,,,,,,, while

I felt like ripping their *( & & (%% heads off because of the pain it was

causing me for them to keep moving that @#%$@ thing over my liver area.

Well, the end report from my doctor the next day was that I had elevated

levels of AST, ALK, ALT, and some other things that were not quite right.

HOWEVER!!!! He reported to me that there was no gallstone, that may

gallbladder now was looking normal and healthy as well as my liver. The only

negative thing was that my liver had enlarged bile ducts...... go figure...

having babies does something to the woman's like that to their uterus when a

baby passes through it, right? I imagine the stones moving out of the liver

certainly had some possible part in the enlargement of my liver's bile

ducts, and the elevated liver enzymes indicating liver damage taking place.

One other interesting thing was that I asked my doctor what he thought about

the liver flushing I had done and he simply stated, to my wife and I, " you

can't argue with success " .

Well, there you have it...... A person on this group that has been there and

done that.

I can suggest my protocol but I think all anyone needs to do here is just

follow what Dave, Will, and have been educating this group with

regarding the various herbs, vitamins, supplements, diets, along with

exercise, and you will stand a very good chance of dealing with gallstones

in a successful manner.

Shoot with their educated writings here I have very little need to do much

more than simply read some really good information of which is repeated time

and again for the newbies benefit. Thank you guys and gals for all the work

you do in helping on this group.

Dale

----- Original Message -----

From: " Alok Kumar " <funnyalok@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:13 PM

Subject: ultrasound after flush ?

hi all,

how many of us have had ultrasound after flushes AND how many of us now

have no stones in their gall bladder, or stone free.

i want to ask that in how many flushes we become stone free AND any one

has done ultrasound and found that there is no stone in his/her gall bladder

now.

regards - alok

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Hi Dale,

I think that our group has so many posts that it only shows part of

them. When you search the archive, it only searches the number of the

messages written at the top of the web page beside search.

On the other hand, you can type in different message numbers and go to

any message that ever has been posted on this group. Once you go back

further in the message numbers, you can then type in various subjects

to search.

It's a bit more labor intensive than before, but you can still get to

all of the info posted.

~Suzanne

--- " Dale " <Da_@m...> wrote:

>

> Too bad the list has had so much of the archive deleted, for what ever

> reason it happened. Had it not had so much deleted you would then

have been

> able to read my past posts regarding what had happened to me from

February

> to October of 1999.

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