Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 To answer your question, Alok, it would be me!!! Alok,,,,,,this got me (Laughing Out Loud) LOL. Especially after reading your post regarding the formation of gallstones during a flush as being caused by the mix of oil and acidic fruit juice. Too bad the list has had so much of the archive deleted, for what ever reason it happened. Had it not had so much deleted you would then have been able to read my past posts regarding what had happened to me from February to October of 1999. If it was all there, you would have also been able to read the report I got from a chemist who is involved in the manufacture of soap, regarding the possible formation of a stones as saponification from the mix of oil and fruit juice going through the human body. His report, in the most simplest of terms noted that it just ain't goin'a happen. We could get into a lot of the factors regarding the manufacture of soap, but it really, literally boils (pun intended) down to heat, alkali, and fats and what it takes to make soap or have what is called saponification from combining those substances. My story is that I had various painful awakings in the early morning hours of which were leading up to two hospital visits within three days. At the first visit they simply did and X-ray of which is worthless for finding gallstones unless they are calcified, and on the second visit they did an MRI of which showed what they called " A " stone along with a thickened and diseased gallbladder of which was in danger of breaking open and becoming a potential cause of death. I was told that I should go to this one particular doctor and see about having it removed within the next two weeks. (pretty scary report to get from a doctor,,, wouldn't you say?) Well, I decided to do something different. I researched the Internet and found various sites of which related to the flushing of gallbladder and started on a regimen of preparation to doing a flush. Now, keep in mind I had no support group such as this and was doing this all on a leap of faith. But, I did however contact a few people and talked to them directly. One person with whom I talked was Chang. I ordered Gold Coin Grass from her to soften and hopefully breakup this single large stone I was noted as having from the MRI. It must have worked because there is a picture of my stones in the online group files. I am a rather stubborn person and then too a bit on the lazy side, so at that time I didn't do enough research to realize the importance of the liver, gallbladder, pancreas and intestine's synergetic relationship. This lead to my diet not taking into consideration each of these organs and what they needed to do the job of keeping my body in a proper balance. Well, what happened was that from August to October I was on such a strict diet, so void of fats that it started to cause liver damage. I had the worst attack of all when driving home from work, after having eaten a fat free meal. Now this was a shock!!! I mean to tell you I had the choice of driving in the traffic in so much pain when I would much rather have been rolling around on the ground. I had the choice of pulling over to do that by calling 911 or simply endure it and get home and have my wife drive me to the hospital just a few miles away, which is what I did and was then at the hospital within fifteen minutes At the hospital it was a very very busy Saturday so I didn't even get to see a doctor for over an hour and a half. Well, to entertain my wife and I, I learned how to roll around a gurney front to back side to back back to back and any other imaginable position you can acquire. This was to herd off the shakes you get from trying to lay still. They finally gave me a shot, which was next to worthless as it didn't even hardly seem to start on the pain, and then they rolled me to the ultrasound machine. There the attendant had to call another attendant and they both where trying to find what the hospital report from my previous visits noted as " A " stone.... They really were trying,,, changing the level of the power setting, moving the probe,,, readjusting things again, and again, bless their hearts,,,,,,,,,,,,,, while I felt like ripping their *( & & (%% heads off because of the pain it was causing me for them to keep moving that @#%$@ thing over my liver area. Well, the end report from my doctor the next day was that I had elevated levels of AST, ALK, ALT, and some other things that were not quite right. HOWEVER!!!! He reported to me that there was no gallstone, that may gallbladder now was looking normal and healthy as well as my liver. The only negative thing was that my liver had enlarged bile ducts...... go figure... having babies does something to the woman's like that to their uterus when a baby passes through it, right? I imagine the stones moving out of the liver certainly had some possible part in the enlargement of my liver's bile ducts, and the elevated liver enzymes indicating liver damage taking place. One other interesting thing was that I asked my doctor what he thought about the liver flushing I had done and he simply stated, to my wife and I, " you can't argue with success " . Well, there you have it...... A person on this group that has been there and done that. I can suggest my protocol but I think all anyone needs to do here is just follow what Dave, Will, and have been educating this group with regarding the various herbs, vitamins, supplements, diets, along with exercise, and you will stand a very good chance of dealing with gallstones in a successful manner. Shoot with their educated writings here I have very little need to do much more than simply read some really good information of which is repeated time and again for the newbies benefit. Thank you guys and gals for all the work you do in helping on this group. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: " Alok Kumar " <funnyalok@...> <gallstones > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: ultrasound after flush ? hi all, how many of us have had ultrasound after flushes AND how many of us now have no stones in their gall bladder, or stone free. i want to ask that in how many flushes we become stone free AND any one has done ultrasound and found that there is no stone in his/her gall bladder now. regards - alok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi Dale, I think that our group has so many posts that it only shows part of them. When you search the archive, it only searches the number of the messages written at the top of the web page beside search. On the other hand, you can type in different message numbers and go to any message that ever has been posted on this group. Once you go back further in the message numbers, you can then type in various subjects to search. It's a bit more labor intensive than before, but you can still get to all of the info posted. ~Suzanne --- " Dale " <Da_@m...> wrote: > > Too bad the list has had so much of the archive deleted, for what ever > reason it happened. Had it not had so much deleted you would then have been > able to read my past posts regarding what had happened to me from February > to October of 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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