Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hi , > > That is VERY low dosing. Aminos are expensive, and MSM appears > > to be the filler; MSM costs less than $11.00 a pound. To > > compare, take a look at what amino acids one serving of your > > cold-processed whey gives you. I submit that eating even a > > couple of eggs will be better for you than the amino capsule, > > Platinum Plus. > > I submit to you that the user and doctor testimonies that > accompany the product witness otherwise. You might be mistaking > quantity with quality. You can have a huge dose of biologically > unavailable amino acid, and watch it all go by. That's precisely > what this product addresses - people unable to digest the foods > they are eating. Nutrient rich, yet unable to hang onto them. > > Read the users stories, before you pass judgement on this one. > My point is that protein with the most biological value on the planet (meaning they are bioavailable, easily digested) happens to be cold-processed whey, a dose of which will eliminate the need to take free-form amino acids and probably MSM as a supplement. I realize there will be testimonials from users, but people swear by eggs, whey, sea vegetables as well, all of which have amino acids, and placebo, which does not. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hi Duncan > > > That is VERY low dosing. Aminos are expensive, and MSM appears > > > to be the filler; MSM costs less than $11.00 a pound. To > > > compare, take a look at what amino acids one serving of your > > > cold-processed whey gives you. I submit that eating even a > > > couple of eggs will be better for you than the amino capsule, > > > Platinum Plus. > > > > I submit to you that the user and doctor testimonies that > > accompany the product witness otherwise. You might be mistaking > > quantity with quality. You can have a huge dose of biologically > > unavailable amino acid, and watch it all go by. That's precisely > > what this product addresses - people unable to digest the foods > > they are eating. Nutrient rich, yet unable to hang onto them. > > > > Read the users stories, before you pass judgement on this one. > > > > My point is that protein with the most biological value on the > planet (meaning they are bioavailable, easily digested) happens > to be cold-processed whey, a dose of which will eliminate the > need to take free-form amino acids and probably MSM as a > supplement. > > I realize there will be testimonials from users, but people > swear by eggs, whey, sea vegetables as well, all of which have > amino acids, and placebo, which does not. > > Duncan Crow I agree, let's eat eggs and whey - no argument there. How do you source healthy whey that is not spiked with unwanted extras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Hi cyberrgeek, I am 30, I was able to pass large stones, in fact much larger than 1.5 cm. My biggest were 2 cm in diameter and I flushed 2 of them at once. Hang on to your gallbladder and good luck! On 20 Oct 2004 00:55:01 -0000, gallstones <gallstones > wrote: > > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Hello. Im new and need advice > From: " cybrrgeek " <cybrrgeek@...> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:15:07 -0000 > From: " cybrrgeek " <cybrrgeek@...> > Subject: Hello. Im new and need advice > > Hello, > > I am a 35 year old male. Over the last several months, Ive had > multiple " attacks " I tried the Olive Oil flush method and saw good > results. Unfortunately, about a week later I got the worst attack yet. > So bad in fact that my finace rushed em to the hospital. > > After an ultrasound, I was found to have just ONE gall stone. It > appears I flushed the others. Unfortunately, the ONE stone I have left > is approx 1.4 cm in size ( the size of a marble ) > > I have consulted two doctors so far. Both have said my ONLY option is > gall bladder removal. > > I am opposed to removal of my gall bladder but will relent if no other > option is available to me. One of the doctors told me that the flush > was a good thing but doubted a flush would get rid of a stone this > size without complications ( like it getting stuck and causing more > problems ) He also said it most likely accounted for the fact only the > one stone could be seen with the ultra sound. > > My questions are as follows: > > 1) Has anyone been able to pass large stones through flush methods? > > 2) What is life like AFTER gall bladder removal? What can I expect in > the long run? Especially dietary expectations? > > I have to decide this week and if I decide on surgery it will take > place next Wednesday ( most likely ) > > Thanks in advance, > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > > To Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.org > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 , It's pretty doubtful that those are gall stones. The common bile duct is only 4-8 mm wide(that's less than a 1 cm). Just google " common bile duct width " . So it's very unlikely stones could pass through there without you landing in the hospital! Have you had a lab check the stones to see what the composition is? Just take it to your doctor and they can get the results back to you within a month. Has anyone else taken their stones to a lab to be checked? It would be interesting to see the reports posted here! > > > > > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Hello. Im new and need advice > > From: " cybrrgeek " <cybrrgeek@y...> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:15:07 -0000 > > From: " cybrrgeek " <cybrrgeek@y...> > > Subject: Hello. Im new and need advice > > > > Hello, > > > > I am a 35 year old male. Over the last several months, Ive had > > multiple " attacks " I tried the Olive Oil flush method and saw good > > results. Unfortunately, about a week later I got the worst attack yet. > > So bad in fact that my finace rushed em to the hospital. > > > > After an ultrasound, I was found to have just ONE gall stone. It > > appears I flushed the others. Unfortunately, the ONE stone I have left > > is approx 1.4 cm in size ( the size of a marble ) > > > > I have consulted two doctors so far. Both have said my ONLY option is > > gall bladder removal. > > > > I am opposed to removal of my gall bladder but will relent if no other > > option is available to me. One of the doctors told me that the flush > > was a good thing but doubted a flush would get rid of a stone this > > size without complications ( like it getting stuck and causing more > > problems ) He also said it most likely accounted for the fact only the > > one stone could be seen with the ultra sound. > > > > My questions are as follows: > > > > 1) Has anyone been able to pass large stones through flush methods? > > > > 2) What is life like AFTER gall bladder removal? What can I expect in > > the long run? Especially dietary expectations? > > > > I have to decide this week and if I decide on surgery it will take > > place next Wednesday ( most likely ) > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > > > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > > > Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > > > > Images: > > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > > > To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones- unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > > > > To Post message: gallstones > > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > > > > Web Sites for more information: > > http://CureZone.org > > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > > http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > > > > Group page: gallstones > > > > To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > > To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > Have a nice day ! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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