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Hi all,

I am back to having troubles with the gallbladder. I was posting like crazy

back when I was pregnant with my daughter. I am now pregnant again and

having a very hard time with my gallbladder. I cant eat but a very few

foods. Its getting bad. So I need advice about what to do again since I am

pregnant and cant do a flush. Last time I took 1 grapefruit juice with 1-2

tbls of olive oil first thing every morning. This time I am very very nausea

and cant seem to do that. I am taking beta tcp to see if maybe that wont

help. I am also going to start seeing an accupuncturist for it. I have heard

they can help with it.

I need diet help. What can we eat? I am pretty limited here. Its just not

good not to be able to eat a wide variety of foods while pregnant. If anyone

can help I would be greatful!!!

If you could also share your menu's for breakfast lunch and dinner that

would be great!!!

I hear that if you get your gallbladder removed you still cant eat things

with any fat in them because you still hurt. Is this true? I dont know what

the point would be if this is true. I would rather not have it out but may

have to go that route if I cant get relief.

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Thanks Kenda

Did you experience any herxing with this cleanse?

Hugs, Kathy

> >>

> >> I fight to keep my weight up as well. I weighed between 90 and

95

> > pounds

> >> for many years and that was a battle. The easiest way for me to

> > maintain my

> >> now 101 pounds is to drink protein drinks. I drink BioPure every

> > morning for

> >> breakfast and usually at night as a snack. My ND considers

> > BioPure the most

> >> pure and easily assimilated protein powder available. I mix it

> > with 4 oz

> >> water, 4 oz rice milk, mixed fruit and nuts. I eat virtually no

> > sugar. I

> >> have ice cream occasionally, a kiddy cup, and an occasional

small

> > Starbuck's

> >> Mocha Latte. Other than that, it's organic and healthy.

Ideally

> > one should

> >> eat at least a 60% raw diet, so you should concentrate on eating

> > lots of

> >> vegetables and fruits.

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >>

> >>> I need some help were my diet is concerned. I have switched to

> > eating

> >>> only organic foods and have been drinking LOTS of water. I

have

> > no

> >>> idea how to go about cutting out sugar. The other thing that

> > concerns

> >>> me is my weight, as it keeps on going down. I am afraid if I

> > totally

> >>> cut out sugar I will loose even more weight.

> >>>

> >>> MK

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Yes, for 10 days I had headaches and one swollen glands.

Kenda

>

>

> Thanks Kenda

> Did you experience any herxing with this cleanse?

> Hugs, Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>>>

>>>> I fight to keep my weight up as well. I weighed between 90 and

> 95

>>> pounds

>>>> for many years and that was a battle. The easiest way for me to

>>> maintain my

>>>> now 101 pounds is to drink protein drinks. I drink BioPure every

>>> morning for

>>>> breakfast and usually at night as a snack. My ND considers

>>> BioPure the most

>>>> pure and easily assimilated protein powder available. I mix it

>>> with 4 oz

>>>> water, 4 oz rice milk, mixed fruit and nuts. I eat virtually no

>>> sugar. I

>>>> have ice cream occasionally, a kiddy cup, and an occasional

> small

>>> Starbuck's

>>>> Mocha Latte. Other than that, it's organic and healthy.

> Ideally

>>> one should

>>>> eat at least a 60% raw diet, so you should concentrate on eating

>>> lots of

>>>> vegetables and fruits.

>>>>

>>>> Kenda

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I need some help were my diet is concerned. I have switched to

>>> eating

>>>>> only organic foods and have been drinking LOTS of water. I

> have

>>> no

>>>>> idea how to go about cutting out sugar. The other thing that

>>> concerns

>>>>> me is my weight, as it keeps on going down. I am afraid if I

>>> totally

>>>>> cut out sugar I will loose even more weight.

>>>>>

>>>>> MK

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>> given by licensed

>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>> health care

>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>

>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>>> mislead you.

>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>>> how to live a

>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

>>> two-time

>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>

>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

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Cherie,

I loved this site! I will bookmark that one!

I found this extremely interesting, below, about onions. Besides

the coffee enema queen, I think I am also the garlic/onion queen!

So this information was really important to me. I've heard that you

are supposed to let garlic sit after you chop it, but I've never

taken the time to really do that. This makes all the difference in

the world to me, having this info. Now I will make sure I do!

Here's the Q and A:

What is the best way to cook onions so as to maximize the benefit of

their sulfur-containing phytonutrients?

Onions are a wonderful reservoir of many important nutrients. Not

only are they a concentrated source of vitamin C, vitamin B6,

chromium and the flavonoid quercetin, but they also contain

important phytonutrients known as allyl sulfides. These sulfur-

containing phytonutrients are the phytonutrients that give the

onions so many of their health promoting qualities. Among these

phytonutrients are those known as alliin and ajeone as well as the

allyl propyl disulfides including allicin, diallyl disulfide and

diallyl trisulfide.

The striking difference in flavor and aroma that exists between

cooked and raw onions is largely due to the effect of cooking on the

allyl sulfide phytonutrients, since not only do they contribute to

the onions's nutritional qualities but they also give them their

pungent flavor and aroma. Thanks to scientific research, we have

learned tips on how we can best cook onions so as to maximize their

sulfur-containing phytonutrients profile.

Preparation for Cooking

The latest scientific research tells us that slicing, chopping or

mincing Onions before cooking will enhance their health-promoting

properties. A sulfur-based compound called S-alk(en)yl-L-cysteine

sulfoxide and an enzyme called sulfoxide lyase (also known as

alliinase) are separated in the Onion's cell structure when it is

whole. Cutting Onion ruptures the cells and releases these elements,

allowing them to come in contact with each other to form a powerful

new compound called thiopropanal sulfoxide. This new compound not

only increases Onion's health-promoting properties but is also the

culprit behind their pungent aroma and the cause of the eye

irritation that results from cutting Onions.

The finer the Onion is cut, the more extensive is the transformation

of the sulfur compounds. The stronger the smell and the more they

affect your eyes, the more health-promoting nutrients they contain.

So the next time you cut your Onions, you will have a greater

appreciation of its " irritating " effects, knowing that the pungent

smell that makes you cry will also make you healthy!

So, to get the most health benefits from Onions, let them sit for a

minimum of 5 minutes, and optimally for 10 minutes, after cutting,

before eating or cooking. This is to ensure the maximum synthesis of

the sulfur compounds.

Heat will inactivate the effect of thiopropanal sulfoxide, which is

why it is important to allow the Onions to sit for 5-10 minutes

before cooking to give the enzyme ample opportunity to enhance the

concentration of active phytonutrients in your Onions. Cooking at

low or medium heat for short periods of time (up to 15 minutes)such

as with methods like healthy sauté should not destroy the active

phytonutrients since once they are formed, they are fairly stable.

Research on garlic, a close relative of Onion, reinforces the

validity of this practice. When crushed garlic was heated, its

ability to inhibit cancer development in animals was blocked; yet,

when the researchers allowed the chopped garlic to `stand' for 10

minutes before heating, anticancer activity was preserved.

Practical tips

To maximize the amount and breadth of sulfur-containing

phytonutrients in onions, chop or slice them 10 minutes before

cooking them. The best cooking technique would be one like the

healthy sauté method that exposes the onions to heat for a minimal

amount of time (less than 15 minutes) as opposed to longer cooking

methods such as slow roasting.

References

Chen JH, Chen HI, Tsai SJ, Jen CJ. Chronic consumption of raw but

not boiled Welsh onion juice inhibits rat platelet function. J Nutr

2000 Jan;130(1):34-7

Ketter, C. A. T. and Randle, W. M. 1998. Pungency Assessment in

Onions. in Tested studies for laboratory teaching, Proceedings of

the 19th Workshop/Conference of the Association for Biology

Laboratory Education Volume 19: 177-196

Lawson LD, Wang ZJ, BG. Identification and HPLC quantitation

of the sulfides and dialk(en)yl thiosulfinates in commercial onions

products.. Planta Med 1991 Aug;57(4):363-70

Song K, Milner JA. The influence of heating on the anticancer

properties of onions.

Song K, Milner JA The Influence of Heating on the Anticancer

Properties of Garlic. J. Nutr. 2001 131: 1054S-1057S.

> > >

> > > Thanks Patty and Lynda,

> > >

> > > I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

> > > still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

> > > for no treatment, or a six-week course.

> > >

> > > NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

> > >

> > > Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

> > > follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

> > > less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

> > > medication is about 40%. It could be years before

> > > reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

> > > radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

> > > women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

> > > even in women with small tumors.

> > >

> > > I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

> > > going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

> > > knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

> > > put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

> > > done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

> > > regardless.

> > >

> > > I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

> > > that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

> > > right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

> > > next.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

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I think the food website is great! . . . I'm sending

the links to my kids!

I didn't spend a lot of time there - but I didn't see

anything about the importance of probiotics.

The Maker's Diet book is excellent for explaining the

why's . . . It's not just a diet book!

Hugs,

Rogene

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I didn't take alot of time to peruse through all of the scads of

information, but I did see one thing that I didn't like, and that

was the discussion of 2% milk as one of the healthiest foods. I am

totally against dairy if it is homogenized, pasteurized milk and

their products.

My opinion is that there is only one form of dairy that is 100%

healthy, and that is raw milk products. The www.realmilk.com

website outlines all of the reasons why. I wish it was more

available. My rule of thumb is that if raw milk and raw milk

butter, cheese, etc, cannot be obtained, then avoid dairy completely.

I'll spend more time looking over the site. I love the ideas they

present for a healthy menu. That helps when you are just kinda lost

when planning a menu to include all of the necessary vegetables,

proteins, minerals, etc.

Thanks again Cherie!

Patty

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Patty and Lynda,

> > > > >

> > > > > I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

> > > > > still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

> > > > > for no treatment, or a six-week course.

> > > > >

> > > > > NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

> > > > >

> > > > > Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

> > > > > follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

> > > > > less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

> > > > > medication is about 40%. It could be years before

> > > > > reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

> > > > > radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

> > > > > women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

> > > > > even in women with small tumors.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

> > > > > going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

> > > > > knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

> > > > > put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

> > > > > done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

> > > > > regardless.

> > > > >

> > > > > I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

> > > > > that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

> > > > > right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

> > > > > next.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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This reminds me of when my 2nd son was born...all the ladies in my room, including the nurses were bugging me to drink my milk so I can produce lots for the baby (I am lactose intolerant, by the way). So I said, "I eat lots of salad...that's what cow's do to produce milk!"

The nurse though I was kinda nutsy. Oh, well...it's true though! Ha! Ha!

From: Lynda <coss@...>Reply- To: Subject: Re: Re: Diet HelpDate: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:26:30 -0700Tis funny, I can eat cottage cheese and cheese if I take lactaid. I cannot drink milk or eat ice cream. Milk that has curdled or become sour is what makes the difference. But none of it can be raw. I throw it up. (Yuck).So, it is not necessarily dairy, it is raw milk.And, what is so funny, I grew up on a dairy farm and drank raw milk my entire childhood, until I was 15. Then, at 20, it made me deathly ill when I tried it again.I think many people are actually lactose intolerant, but it is also the cassein (sp?) in the milk that breaks down when it sours that makes it so I can have cheese or cottage cheese or yogurt if I take lactaid. I do buy organic products, including butter.So, I am unsure why, but between 15 and 20, the dramatic change came. And my oldest son could never tolerate raw milk. He could drink pasteurized, however, when he was older than 2. I think he was probably lactose intolerant also.I think many of us are lactose intolerant, and we just do not know it. I have seen studies that said that probably 80-90% of adults are lactose intolerant, and many do not know it.LyndaAt 11:14 PM 3/11/2006, you wrote:>That's too bad. I guess some people just can't tolerate dairy.>>Anita, who used to post on this site and whose son is ill from her>implants too, also buys raw milk products from the same dairy I do.>She loves it. She said the raw milk products have been a godsend to>her and her son. When I talked to her last, she told me he drinks>it by the gallon. Interestingly, it is the homogenized, pasteurized>milk that he cannot tolerate at all.>>But raw milk he loves and it has helped them both tremendously.>>There are some people, like who have MS symptoms, who probably>should avoid milk products. There are lots of detox diets that>claim that it is better to stay away from milk products completely,>as they can be a common source of allergens. But it is usually the>homogenized, pasteurized products that cause the most reactions-->probably because the heat processing alters the milk proteins and>makes the calcium less available (less absorbable.)>>I've seen diets called the Milk cure diet too! I guess everybody>needs to just explore the possibilities when it comes to healing.>>Sounds like you guys are allergic to dairy!>Patty>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks Patty and Lynda,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I> > > > > > > > still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt> > > > > > > > for no treatment, or a six-week course.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and> > > > > > > > follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is> > > > > > > > less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or> > > > > > > > medication is about 40%. It could be years before> > > > > > > > reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via> > > > > > > > radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of> > > > > > > > women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -> > > > > > > > even in women with small tumors.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and> > > > > > > > going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have> > > > > > > > knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that> > > > > > > > put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was> > > > > > > > done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD> > > > > > > > regardless.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure> > > > > > > > that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do> > > > > > > > right now while trying to figure out what I'll do> > > > > > > > next.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hugs,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rogene> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the> > >place of advice given by licensed health care> > >professionals. Consult your physician or> > >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical>treatment.> > >> > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or> > >the politicians mislead you. Find out what the> > >facts are, and make your own decisions about how> > >to live a happy life and how to work for a> > >better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel> > >Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > >> > >See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> >> ><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>h > ttp://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh>utterfly.com/action/> > >> > >

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Cute! And true!

Lynda

At 12:34 AM 3/12/2006, you wrote:

>[]

>This reminds me of when my 2nd son was

>born...all the ladies in my room, including the

>nurses were bugging me to drink my milk so I can

>produce lots for the baby (I am lactose

>intolerant, by the way). So I said, " I eat lots

>of salad...that's what cow's do to produce milk! "

>

>The nurse though I was kinda nutsy. Oh, well...it's true though! Ha! Ha!

>[]

>

>

>From: Lynda <coss@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Re: Diet Help

>Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:26:30 -0700

>

>Tis funny, I can eat cottage cheese and cheese if

>I take lactaid. I cannot drink milk or eat ice

>cream. Milk that has curdled or become sour is

>what makes the difference. But none of it can be raw. I throw it up. (Yuck).

>

>So, it is not necessarily dairy, it is raw milk.

>

>And, what is so funny, I grew up on a dairy farm

>and drank raw milk my entire childhood, until I

>was 15. Then, at 20, it made me deathly ill when I tried it again.

>

>I think many people are actually lactose

>intolerant, but it is also the cassein (sp?) in

>the milk that breaks down when it sours that

>makes it so I can have cheese or cottage cheese

>or yogurt if I take lactaid. I do buy organic products, including butter.

>

>So, I am unsure why, but between 15 and 20, the

>dramatic change came. And my oldest son could

>never tolerate raw milk. He could drink

>pasteurized, however, when he was older than

>2. I think he was probably lactose intolerant also.

>

>I think many of us are lactose intolerant, and we

>just do not know it. I have seen studies that

>said that probably 80-90% of adults are lactose

>intolerant, and many do not know it.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 11:14 PM 3/11/2006, you wrote:

> >That's too bad. I guess some people just can't tolerate dairy.

> >

> >Anita, who used to post on this site and whose son is ill from her

> >implants too, also buys raw milk products from the same dairy I do.

> >She loves it. She said the raw milk products have been a godsend to

> >her and her son. When I talked to her last, she told me he drinks

> >it by the gallon. Interestingly, it is the homogenized, pasteurized

> >milk that he cannot tolerate at all.

> >

> >But raw milk he loves and it has helped them both tremendously.

> >

> >There are some people, like who have MS symptoms, who probably

> >should avoid milk products. There are lots of detox diets that

> >claim that it is better to stay away from milk products completely,

> >as they can be a common source of allergens. But it is usually the

> >homogenized, pasteurized products that cause the most reactions--

> >probably because the heat processing alters the milk proteins and

> >makes the calcium less available (less absorbable.)

> >

> >I've seen diets called the Milk cure diet too! I guess everybody

> >needs to just explore the possibilities when it comes to healing.

> >

> >Sounds like you guys are allergic to dairy!

> >Patty

> >

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks Patty and Lynda,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

> > > > > > > > > still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

> > > > > > > > > for no treatment, or a six-week course.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

> > > > > > > > > follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

> > > > > > > > > less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

> > > > > > > > > medication is about 40%. It could be years before

> > > > > > > > > reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

> > > > > > > > > radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

> > > > > > > > > women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

> > > > > > > > > even in women with small tumors.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

> > > > > > > > > going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

> > > > > > > > > knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

> > > > > > > > > put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

> > > > > > > > > done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

> > > > > > > > > regardless.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

> > > > > > > > > that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

> > > > > > > > > right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

> > > > > > > > > next.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hugs,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rogene

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> > > >place of advice given by licensed health care

> > > >professionals. Consult your physician or

> > > >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

> >treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

> > > >the politicians mislead you. Find out what the

> > > >facts are, and make your own decisions about how

> > > >to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> > > >Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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You were just saying the truth! Funny when you think about it, huh?

My grandmother, who was German, told me to drink beer with my first

baby. She said the beer makes good milk. Of course, back in the old

days, beer was brewed using whole fermented grains....a very healthy

drink to drink (and the main beverage in many cultures, along with

wine, for centuries). I wish I had known the difference between real

brewed beer of old and the highly processed beer of modern days,

because I tried it with a bottle of Heineken and the only thing it did

for me was make me drunk and make my baby sleep really well!

I actually hate the taste of beer, but if I was going to drink it

today, the only way I would is if I made it the old fashioned way

myself!

Patty

You wrote:

This reminds me of when my 2nd son was born...all the ladies in my

room, including the nurses were bugging me to drink my milk so I can

produce lots for the baby (I am lactose intolerant, by the way). So I

said, " I eat lots of salad...that's what cow's do to produce milk! "

The nurse though I was kinda nutsy. Oh, well...it's true though! Ha!

Ha!

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Migraines. :( You have to remember though, my house has been under

reconstruction for 6 months so the paint and chemicals here are likely what

I have been reacting to. My body doesn't feel the same as it used to. My

muscles ache more and I take longer than usual to recover after workouts at

the gym. My chiro adjustments are different too. I also require less of

some supplements that previous so that's a good thing. Dr. Leu believes my

reactions are toxin related. I'm going to the home and garden show today to

see infrared saunas -- at his suggestion. How can my husband not buy me one

if the kind doc suggested it very strongly. :)

Kathy, you may or may not react to the products I'm taking but I would not

use my reaction as a guideline. I take really good care of myself but this

house has me all screwed up. Fortunately we're leaving or a cruise for 7

days on Saturday. I'm anxious to see if my symptoms change after being out

of here and in the truly fresh air. Unfortunately we have to come back

home.

Kenda

> WEre the headaches severe? I can get really really bad herx

> headaches. AFter ten days, were you herx free?

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I fight to keep my weight up as well. I weighed between 90

> and

>>> 95

>>>>> pounds

>>>>>> for many years and that was a battle. The easiest way for me

> to

>>>>> maintain my

>>>>>> now 101 pounds is to drink protein drinks. I drink BioPure

> every

>>>>> morning for

>>>>>> breakfast and usually at night as a snack. My ND considers

>>>>> BioPure the most

>>>>>> pure and easily assimilated protein powder available. I mix

> it

>>>>> with 4 oz

>>>>>> water, 4 oz rice milk, mixed fruit and nuts. I eat virtually

> no

>>>>> sugar. I

>>>>>> have ice cream occasionally, a kiddy cup, and an occasional

>>> small

>>>>> Starbuck's

>>>>>> Mocha Latte. Other than that, it's organic and healthy.

>>> Ideally

>>>>> one should

>>>>>> eat at least a 60% raw diet, so you should concentrate on

> eating

>>>>> lots of

>>>>>> vegetables and fruits.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I need some help were my diet is concerned. I have switched

> to

>>>>> eating

>>>>>>> only organic foods and have been drinking LOTS of water. I

>>> have

>>>>> no

>>>>>>> idea how to go about cutting out sugar. The other thing that

>>>>> concerns

>>>>>>> me is my weight, as it keeps on going down. I am afraid if I

>>>>> totally

>>>>>>> cut out sugar I will loose even more weight.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> MK

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>>>>> given by licensed

>>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>>>>> health care

>>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>>>>> mislead you.

>>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

>>>>> how to live a

>>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>>> ing,

>>>>> two-time

>>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>>>

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Hi Cherie,

I've been out of town for the weekend and am a bit behind but I will read

your website.

One thing that I have learned in school is that all vegetables, including

onions and garlic are far more nutritious raw. Enzymes are killed when

cooked. The ideal ratio is 60% raw foods in the diet.

Kenda

> I'm so glad you liked the website - I thought it was wonderful, but

> was kind of hoping for some unput from you or Kenda or Rogene to see

> what you thought. HOW DO THEY KNOW ALL THAT STUFF??? I am doing

> the allergy avoidance diet as they suggested, only modified by Dr.

> Leu to limit the wheat and dairy to start. I am eating chicken.

> Did I mention I am also being tested for the leaky gut? This

> website explains that in detail also.

> Cherie

>

>

>

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

>>>>>

>>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

>>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

>>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

>>>>>

>>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

>>>>>

>>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

>>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

>>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

>>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

>>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

>>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

>>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

>>>>> even in women with small tumors.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

>>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

>>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

>>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

>>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

>>>>> regardless.

>>>>>

>>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

>>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

>>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

>>>>> next.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hugs,

>>>>>

>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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What is the name of the man who recommends using only full fat, I believe

unpasteurized, milk products? According to him, anything less is

" processed " . Makes sense because it is!

Kenda

> I didn't take alot of time to peruse through all of the scads of

> information, but I did see one thing that I didn't like, and that

> was the discussion of 2% milk as one of the healthiest foods. I am

> totally against dairy if it is homogenized, pasteurized milk and

> their products.

>

> My opinion is that there is only one form of dairy that is 100%

> healthy, and that is raw milk products. The www.realmilk.com

> website outlines all of the reasons why. I wish it was more

> available. My rule of thumb is that if raw milk and raw milk

> butter, cheese, etc, cannot be obtained, then avoid dairy completely.

>

> I'll spend more time looking over the site. I love the ideas they

> present for a healthy menu. That helps when you are just kinda lost

> when planning a menu to include all of the necessary vegetables,

> proteins, minerals, etc.

>

> Thanks again Cherie!

> Patty

>

>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks Patty and Lynda,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I spent the day talking to radiologists today . . . I

>>>>>> still have a set of appointments to go, unless I opt

>>>>>> for no treatment, or a six-week course.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> NO CHEMO! . . . NO WAY! . . .

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Statistics show that, with whole breast radiation, and

>>>>>> follow up medication, the chances of reoccurance is

>>>>>> less than 1%. . . Reoccurance without radiation or

>>>>>> medication is about 40%. It could be years before

>>>>>> reoccurance is obvious. Studies of breasts removed via

>>>>>> radical masectomies showed that as many as 70% of

>>>>>> women had cancer cells that weren't apparent yet -

>>>>>> even in women with small tumors.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm torn between counting on NCD to protect me and

>>>>>> going for the safest odds. I had hoped it would have

>>>>>> knocked out the cancer cells. However, the study that

>>>>>> put 78% of Stage IV cancer patients into remission was

>>>>>> done over a one-year period. I know I'll continue NCD

>>>>>> regardless.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I really can't say what I'm going to do yet! I'm sure

>>>>>> that I'll feel better when I make a decision than I do

>>>>>> right now while trying to figure out what I'll do

>>>>>> next.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hugs,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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Kenda

Sorry to hear that your house has you screwed up! I know I would

be. I am very sensitive to paints and all kinds of chemical

smells. I really hope you enjoy your vacation! I haven't been

feeling well either. I had to put my dog to sleep two weeks ago and

have sunk in a big depression. Then my hormones got in on the act

and everything went to heck. I have been having nonstop tendon pain

from constant muscle twitches in my legs and arms. My tendons are

taut and hurt constantly. I think that is due to alot of things I

was doing to detox--like everyday epsom salt baths and far infrared

sauna, lots of garlic and onions, etc. Everytime I try to detox it

goes well for awhile and then reaches a point where everything

careens out of control. I really wish I could figure out why my

body reacts this way over and over to just about anything and

everything. I used to be able to stop what I was doing and in three

or four days I would be better again. Now it seems it takes weeks

and months to come out of the herxes I get into. One thing I have

noticed is that when my hormones are screwed up I herx and react

much worse than when they are more on an even keel. And being on an

even keel has become impossible lately. I really just want to hit

menopause and be done with all these hormone shifts. It makes it

hard to feel good either physically or emotionally.

I, too am going on a vacation. I am leaving for dallas tuesday to

spend five days with my son. Then off to hawaii for five days. I

really hope that I can feel up to these trips. I would hate to

disappoint my son and my husband! I will be praying that your trip

will be just what you need to feel better again, and you have a

great time as well!

Love, Kathy

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I fight to keep my weight up as well. I weighed between 90

> > and

> >>> 95

> >>>>> pounds

> >>>>>> for many years and that was a battle. The easiest way for

me

> > to

> >>>>> maintain my

> >>>>>> now 101 pounds is to drink protein drinks. I drink BioPure

> > every

> >>>>> morning for

> >>>>>> breakfast and usually at night as a snack. My ND considers

> >>>>> BioPure the most

> >>>>>> pure and easily assimilated protein powder available. I mix

> > it

> >>>>> with 4 oz

> >>>>>> water, 4 oz rice milk, mixed fruit and nuts. I eat

virtually

> > no

> >>>>> sugar. I

> >>>>>> have ice cream occasionally, a kiddy cup, and an occasional

> >>> small

> >>>>> Starbuck's

> >>>>>> Mocha Latte. Other than that, it's organic and healthy.

> >>> Ideally

> >>>>> one should

> >>>>>> eat at least a 60% raw diet, so you should concentrate on

> > eating

> >>>>> lots of

> >>>>>> vegetables and fruits.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Kenda

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I need some help were my diet is concerned. I have

switched

> > to

> >>>>> eating

> >>>>>>> only organic foods and have been drinking LOTS of water. I

> >>> have

> >>>>> no

> >>>>>>> idea how to go about cutting out sugar. The other thing

that

> >>>>> concerns

> >>>>>>> me is my weight, as it keeps on going down. I am afraid

if I

> >>>>> totally

> >>>>>>> cut out sugar I will loose even more weight.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> MK

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> >>>>> given by licensed

> >>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >>>>> health care

> >>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> >>>>> mislead you.

> >>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> > about

> >>>>> how to live a

> >>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> >>> ing,

> >>>>> two-time

> >>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> >>> link:

> >>>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

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Hi Kathy,

I'm sorry you're having a rough time and am so sorry about the death of your

dog. I'm an animal lover and know too well how rough it is to lose a

beloved pet. Do you know a good acupuncturist? My acupuncturist did a

grief treatment for me after I lost my favorite kitty years ago and it

worked wonders.

Do you stay on any liver supplements regularly? I take a liver supplement

and started on a very low dose. I gradually increased it until I could take

the full dose and not herx. Whenever I herx or am liver challenged, I get

my fibro symptoms back, although never consistently or as bad as I used to

have. I have them now for the first time in many years but I know it is the

toxic mess that is in our home. I try not to be concerned about it and know

that it will clear up in time. Anyway, the cleanse supplements I am now

taking are in addition to the regular liver supplements I normally take. If

you don't already take a supplement daily, you might consider it. I intend

to take liver supplements for life, it's a necessity for me.

My muscles and tendons feel strangely now too. I'm sure it is the toxins

being stirred up. I also haven't been drinking near enough water, I can

tell because I am so thirsty all the time. Our home and garden show was

this weekend so my husband and I looked at the infrared saunas. There is a

company here that makes them that we really liked. Their saunas are made of

birch or poplar, can't remember which, and are not treated with chemicals

and don't outgas like cedar. Cedar would kill me! My husband even liked it

and Dr. Leu recommends it so we're going to order one soon. :) I'm anxious

to try it after reading all of the testimonials given on the company

webpage.

You know I'm always suggesting Dr. Leu for this type of thing. If you feel

you can't get ahead with what you're doing, I highly recommend him to get

you pointed in the right direction to where you can handle detoxing on your

own. There could be simple reason you are struggling with what you have

tried.

I hope your trip is great! Hawaii will be incredible!!

Take care,

Kenda

>

> Kenda

> Sorry to hear that your house has you screwed up! I know I would

> be. I am very sensitive to paints and all kinds of chemical

> smells. I really hope you enjoy your vacation! I haven't been

> feeling well either. I had to put my dog to sleep two weeks ago and

> have sunk in a big depression. Then my hormones got in on the act

> and everything went to heck. I have been having nonstop tendon pain

> from constant muscle twitches in my legs and arms. My tendons are

> taut and hurt constantly. I think that is due to alot of things I

> was doing to detox--like everyday epsom salt baths and far infrared

> sauna, lots of garlic and onions, etc. Everytime I try to detox it

> goes well for awhile and then reaches a point where everything

> careens out of control. I really wish I could figure out why my

> body reacts this way over and over to just about anything and

> everything. I used to be able to stop what I was doing and in three

> or four days I would be better again. Now it seems it takes weeks

> and months to come out of the herxes I get into. One thing I have

> noticed is that when my hormones are screwed up I herx and react

> much worse than when they are more on an even keel. And being on an

> even keel has become impossible lately. I really just want to hit

> menopause and be done with all these hormone shifts. It makes it

> hard to feel good either physically or emotionally.

> I, too am going on a vacation. I am leaving for dallas tuesday to

> spend five days with my son. Then off to hawaii for five days. I

> really hope that I can feel up to these trips. I would hate to

> disappoint my son and my husband! I will be praying that your trip

> will be just what you need to feel better again, and you have a

> great time as well!

> Love, Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I fight to keep my weight up as well. I weighed between 90

>>> and

>>>>> 95

>>>>>>> pounds

>>>>>>>> for many years and that was a battle. The easiest way for

> me

>>> to

>>>>>>> maintain my

>>>>>>>> now 101 pounds is to drink protein drinks. I drink BioPure

>>> every

>>>>>>> morning for

>>>>>>>> breakfast and usually at night as a snack. My ND considers

>>>>>>> BioPure the most

>>>>>>>> pure and easily assimilated protein powder available. I mix

>>> it

>>>>>>> with 4 oz

>>>>>>>> water, 4 oz rice milk, mixed fruit and nuts. I eat

> virtually

>>> no

>>>>>>> sugar. I

>>>>>>>> have ice cream occasionally, a kiddy cup, and an occasional

>>>>> small

>>>>>>> Starbuck's

>>>>>>>> Mocha Latte. Other than that, it's organic and healthy.

>>>>> Ideally

>>>>>>> one should

>>>>>>>> eat at least a 60% raw diet, so you should concentrate on

>>> eating

>>>>>>> lots of

>>>>>>>> vegetables and fruits.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I need some help were my diet is concerned. I have

> switched

>>> to

>>>>>>> eating

>>>>>>>>> only organic foods and have been drinking LOTS of water. I

>>>>> have

>>>>>>> no

>>>>>>>>> idea how to go about cutting out sugar. The other thing

> that

>>>>>>> concerns

>>>>>>>>> me is my weight, as it keeps on going down. I am afraid

> if I

>>>>>>> totally

>>>>>>>>> cut out sugar I will loose even more weight.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> MK

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> advice

>>>>>>> given by licensed

>>>>>>>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

>>>>>>> health care

>>>>>>>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

>>>>>>> mislead you.

>>>>>>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

>>> about

>>>>>>> how to live a

>>>>>>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>>>>> ing,

>>>>>>> two-time

>>>>>>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

>>>>> link:

>>>>>>>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>>>>>>>>>

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Well, maybe, but none of my brothers and sisters, nor my mother and

dad seemed to have this problem.

And, studies show that the majority of adults are lactose intolerant

and just do not know it until they quit using dairy for at least

three months. Then when they start again, the problem is readily apparent.

So, I just do not know. I can eat yogurt with absolutely no

problem. So, what is that???

I just know that raw milk is the absolute worst for me, and it makes

me hurl. I get indigestion from ice cream, but no

vomiting. Terrible indigestion. But not so much from frozen yogurt,

cheese, or cottage cheese. And I never drink milk anymore, so cannot

tell you about that.

I have been told that souring or fermenting milk breaks down some of

the proteins, so that may have something to do with why those

products do not give me as much problem.

I also know that you have far more danger of H. Pylori if you use raw

dairy products. There is a direct correlation with having that and

using raw dairy. So, that is something one should research.

I go for organic, no hormones or antibiotics in it. I am far more

worried about those than about pasteurization. And diary is not a

big thing on my list, but yogurt seems to be good for me. That is

something I do eat almost daily. Otherwise, I get my calcium elsewhere.

Lynda

At 11:20 PM 3/12/2006, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>There are some people who are lactose intolerant . .

>. It's often inherited. Would that apply to you and

>your son?

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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Would it be Rubin? - Rogene

--- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

> What is the name of the man who recommends using

> only full fat, I believe

> unpasteurized, milk products? According to him,

> anything less is

> " processed " . Makes sense because it is!

>

> Kenda

>

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Lynda . . . It's interesting how raw milk suddenly

made you ill. I wonder if there was something in the

milk you drank at that time that created antibodies

that you passed onto your son - and still hang around

to protect you from more of the same.

Hugs,

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A friend told me that she can't drink milk in the

States. Yet when she was traveling in Europe, she did

fine. . . I suspect some of the stuff they put in milk

to give it a long shelf life is at fault.

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No, it was a man with a foundation.

Kenda

> Would it be Rubin? - Rogene

>

> --- Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>

>> What is the name of the man who recommends using

>> only full fat, I believe

>> unpasteurized, milk products? According to him,

>> anything less is

>> " processed " . Makes sense because it is!

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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That would more than likely be Dr. Westin A. Price, who wrote a

fascinating and influential book called Nutrition and Physical

Degeneration. I highly recommend this book.

It is the Westin Price Foundation that I always refer to when I send

the link for www.realmilk.com. They are the ones that have

continued the work that he started, and seek to educate the world on

correct nutrition. They base it on the research that revealed the

devastating effects of modern processed foods....back in the

1930's! It's even worse now.

One of the best " cookbooks " I have in my collection is

called " Nourishing Traditions " , which teaches how to make foods the

old fashioned way to preserve nutrients and health. I highly

recommend this book to those who want to give up modern processed

foods!

Patty

> >

> >> What is the name of the man who recommends using

> >> only full fat, I believe

> >> unpasteurized, milk products? According to him,

> >> anything less is

> >> " processed " . Makes sense because it is!

> >>

> >> Kenda

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

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Here is the link to the Westin Price Foundation:

http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html

I support this foundation with annual contributions, and they put

out a very informative booklet 4 times a year with the latest

information in nutrition, scientifically backed, of course. They

also put out a shopping guide to help make correct choices at the

grocery store, along with resources for purchases online and locally

for nutrient dense foods.

Patty

> > >

> > >> What is the name of the man who recommends using

> > >> only full fat, I believe

> > >> unpasteurized, milk products? According to him,

> > >> anything less is

> > >> " processed " . Makes sense because it is!

> > >>

> > >> Kenda

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed

> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care

> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> two-time

> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

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No, because he was a year old at the time. And I did not drink milk

when pregnant.

I just think it was the raw milk. Many, many people cannot have milk

products, I am just one of them that is very sensitive, especially to raw milk.

Lynda

At 11:57 PM 3/12/2006, you wrote:

>Lynda . . . It's interesting how raw milk suddenly

>made you ill. I wonder if there was something in the

>milk you drank at that time that created antibodies

>that you passed onto your son - and still hang around

>to protect you from more of the same.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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Well, not true if the milk is organic, which mine was.

Lynda

At 12:00 AM 3/13/2006, you wrote:

>A friend told me that she can't drink milk in the

>States. Yet when she was traveling in Europe, she did

>fine. . . I suspect some of the stuff they put in milk

>to give it a long shelf life is at fault.

>

>Rogene

>

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Bingo!! That's him. I first learned about him through my holistic dentist.

He recommends against skim and low fat milks because they are not natural

and are processed.

Kenda

> That would more than likely be Dr. Westin A. Price, who wrote a

> fascinating and influential book called Nutrition and Physical

> Degeneration. I highly recommend this book.

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> It is the Westin Price Foundation that I always refer to when I send

> the link for www.realmilk.com. They are the ones that have

> continued the work that he started, and seek to educate the world on

> correct nutrition. They base it on the research that revealed the

> devastating effects of modern processed foods....back in the

> 1930's! It's even worse now.

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> One of the best " cookbooks " I have in my collection is

> called " Nourishing Traditions " , which teaches how to make foods the

> old fashioned way to preserve nutrients and health. I highly

> recommend this book to those who want to give up modern processed

> foods!

> Patty

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>>>

>>>> What is the name of the man who recommends using

>>>> only full fat, I believe

>>>> unpasteurized, milk products? According to him,

>>>> anything less is

>>>> " processed " . Makes sense because it is!

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>>>> Kenda

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>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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