Re: Re:Have any of you ever had kidney stones?

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Kidney stones are real stones. They hurt when they pass(even if they're less

than 6mm), unless they're small enough that they pass without a problem. When

they're not small enough, you'll definitely know it. Passing a kidney stone has

been compared to childbirth in terms of pain. In my personal experience, kidney

stones can stay in your kidneys for at least a month, and can be caused by

dehydration(but my doctor said that it's really uncertain why some people get

stones and others don't). The lab report said mine were made of calcium

carbonate. Some foods that are high in calcium carbonate include spinach and

beets, and quite a few other things. So I've been cutting back on those and

drinking more water!

J Gagne <jbg@...> wrote:

,

Apparently all they saw in the ultrasound was a small kidney

stone and an enlarged gall bladder, which the doctor said

was a symptom of gall stones. He didn't even suggest a

treatment for the kidney stone. He immediately began talking

about removing my gall bladder. When I asked about other

treatment for the gallstones, he said there was no point

trying to dissolve the gall stones, because they would just

come back. He suggested I should book the appointment

immediately when I told him I was going to do some research

on the internet. Luckily Dr. Saul Pressman from the

ozonetherapy list suggested I do a liver cleanse as soon as

possible. I did and felt immediate improvement from the

discomfort under the right rib cage. I have now done 4

flushes and I think the next one should just about take care

of the last bit of discomfort from the gall bladder.

I assume the kidney stone is gone due to the Cianca Piedra

and increased water intake but I won't know for sure until

the next ultrasound. I have noticed that I can handle the

cold much better and don't get that immediate chilled to the

bone shivering that I used to experience every time I walk

out into the Canadian winter air. I think women can pass a

small kidney stone without noticing, but I don't know for

sure. I definitely haven't noticed.

I don't have a lot of faith in some of my doctor's

recommended treatments, but he is useful in providing the

diagnosis, at least. A couple of years ago when I went to

him about my constipation he told me that no BM's for two or

three days on a regular basis was not necessarily a sign of

any problem and that if I WANTED more frequent BM's I should

just eat more fibre. DUH!! Is any one happy with bi-weekly

BM's?

Jeanne

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:49:34 -0800 (PST)

From: O'Leary <paul_oleary@...>

Subject: Re: Re:Have any of you ever had kidney stones?

Well I guess there's two of us then. I was told by the doc

to drink more water and that would reduce the risk of future

kidney stones. Did your doctor recommend anything for them?

Have you passed your kidney stone yet?

What's an enlarged gallbladder? Have your gallstones shown

up on xrays/ultrasounds?

They spotted my gallstones when they were checking for

kidney stones. Luckily I have no more in my kidney. Those

things sure look tiny when they finally pass, but they can

be quite painful to pass! I've taken both to a lab, where

they confirmed the obvious.

J Gagne <jbg@...> wrote:

I had a small kidney stone along with my enlarged gall

bladder. I am progressively succeeding with flushes over the

period of a year now and also have been taking cianca piedra

herb in capsule form which is documented to slowly dissolve

kidney, liver and gall stones. I believe it has done a lot

to help with my condition. I will wait until my gall bladder

is back to functioning properly before I will bother with

another ultra sound but when I do I will post here about the

results of the kidney stone as well as the gall

bladder..might be six months though.

Cheers

Jeanne

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----- Original Message -----

From: " O'Leary " <paul_oleary@...>

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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:48 PM

Subject: Re: Re:Have any of you ever had kidney stones?

>

> Kidney stones are real stones. They hurt when they pass(even if they're

> less than 6mm), unless they're small enough that they pass without a

> problem. When they're not small enough, you'll definitely know it.

> Passing a kidney stone has been compared to childbirth in terms of pain.

> In my personal experience, kidney stones can stay in your kidneys for at

> least a month, and can be caused by dehydration(but my doctor said that

> it's really uncertain why some people get stones and others don't). The

> lab report said mine were made of calcium carbonate. Some foods that are

> high in calcium carbonate include spinach and beets, and quite a few other

> things. So I've been cutting back on those and drinking more water!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> J Gagne <jbg@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Apparently all they saw in the ultrasound was a small kidney

> stone and an enlarged gall bladder, which the doctor said

> was a symptom of gall stones. He didn't even suggest a

> treatment for the kidney stone. He immediately began talking

> about removing my gall bladder. When I asked about other

> treatment for the gallstones, he said there was no point

> trying to dissolve the gall stones, because they would just

> come back. He suggested I should book the appointment

> immediately when I told him I was going to do some research

> on the internet. Luckily Dr. Saul Pressman from the

> ozonetherapy list suggested I do a liver cleanse as soon as

> possible. I did and felt immediate improvement from the

> discomfort under the right rib cage. I have now done 4

> flushes and I think the next one should just about take care

> of the last bit of discomfort from the gall bladder.

>

> I assume the kidney stone is gone due to the Cianca Piedra

> and increased water intake but I won't know for sure until

> the next ultrasound. I have noticed that I can handle the

> cold much better and don't get that immediate chilled to the

> bone shivering that I used to experience every time I walk

> out into the Canadian winter air. I think women can pass a

> small kidney stone without noticing, but I don't know for

> sure. I definitely haven't noticed.

>

> I don't have a lot of faith in some of my doctor's

> recommended treatments, but he is useful in providing the

> diagnosis, at least. A couple of years ago when I went to

> him about my constipation he told me that no BM's for two or

> three days on a regular basis was not necessarily a sign of

> any problem and that if I WANTED more frequent BM's I should

> just eat more fibre. DUH!! Is any one happy with bi-weekly

> BM's?

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:49:34 -0800 (PST)

> From: O'Leary <paul_oleary@...>

> Subject: Re: Re:Have any of you ever had kidney stones?

>

> Well I guess there's two of us then. I was told by the doc

> to drink more water and that would reduce the risk of future

> kidney stones. Did your doctor recommend anything for them?

> Have you passed your kidney stone yet?

>

> What's an enlarged gallbladder? Have your gallstones shown

> up on xrays/ultrasounds?

> They spotted my gallstones when they were checking for

> kidney stones. Luckily I have no more in my kidney. Those

> things sure look tiny when they finally pass, but they can

> be quite painful to pass! I've taken both to a lab, where

> they confirmed the obvious.

>

>

> J Gagne <jbg@...> wrote:

> I had a small kidney stone along with my enlarged gall

> bladder. I am progressively succeeding with flushes over the

> period of a year now and also have been taking cianca piedra

> herb in capsule form which is documented to slowly dissolve

> kidney, liver and gall stones. I believe it has done a lot

> to help with my condition. I will wait until my gall bladder

> is back to functioning properly before I will bother with

> another ultra sound but when I do I will post here about the

> results of the kidney stone as well as the gall

> bladder..might be six months though.

>

> Cheers

> Jeanne

>

>

>

>

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>>>Kidney stones... The lab report said mine were made of calcium carbonate.

Some foods that are high in calcium carbonate include spinach and beets, and

quite a few other things. So I've been cutting back on those and drinking more

water!<<<

Then there is the other camp who believe that the body stores what it is short

of. Maybe you haven't been eating enough spinach and beets?

Blessings

Mama