Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Hi , The thing that got me to do the cleanse was that I would be going to surgery one way or the other. If I did nothing I would be having it removed. If I do the flush, most likely outcome based on others experiences I would be ok. If the rare chance I got a stone stuck and had to have the surgery then oh well, I tried to avoid it. LOL Maybe you could travel to a familiar U.S. location for the flush...in case. just my thoughts, ----- Original Message ----- From: paulgochenauer gallstones Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: gallstone cleanse I am 66 yr old male, retired in Mexico and have just been diagnosed with " numerous " 15mm size gallstones (sonogram). I have hyperlipidimia, have had 5 bypasses, aorta repair and both carotid arteries " unblocked " the past 10 years. So cholestrol has done its job on me. I have been taking medication (Zocor) and Niaspan and have brought everything within normal limits...now the stones. Of course I do not want surgery if avoidable. I am very curious about the cleanse, but I am concerned about the olive oil since oil is one of the things that seem to set off my attacks. Should this be a concern? I have read of one cleanse which seems to have caused an attach which required surgery. So, I am just trying to be a bit cautious since I do not want to have surgery here in Mexico. So, any in put would be greatly appreciated. Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 Images: http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! To Post message: gallstones Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Web Sites for more information: http://CureZone.org http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ Group page: gallstones To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 , I can't imagine how you found this group, but it could be a miracle that you did. I think you've got a pretty good shot at total cure and at a long healthy life if you take some slow, gentle steps with your body. The last thing I'd do at this moment would be a GB flush. It could work perfectly now, who knows, but why take chances with your health? You've suffered enough already for 10 people! Like myself, you could undertake a stone DISSOLVING plan for the first 6-12 months and then begin some FLUSHING techniques when you are stronger. If you are diligent and use SEVERAL of the dissolving techniques simultaneously, you won't have any major attacks and might not even have any minor ones. By scanning back through our messages over the past 6 months you will find not only the dissolving techniques we use, LINKS for more information and supplies, as well as the tools we use to safely ABORT AN ATTACK. If you enlarge the picture to correct all your cholesterol pathways, you could even win the " health lottery " and get fully healthy. As you noted, there is a MAINLINE CONNECTION between your cardiovascular problems and your liver issues. It's all one big imbalance, the gallstones are certainly no surprise. When you holistically cure one aspect, the others will heal accordingly. If I could only give you one piece of advice in this entire lifetime, I'd suggest you immediately pick up the book " 21 DAYS TO A HEALTHY HEART, Understand, Prevent, and Reverse Diet Related Heart Disease " by Alan . It's a best-seller and easily ordered from Amazon or any big book store. It is clearly the place for you to start. What you will find there will stun you with how easy it is to get your health back and never see that surgeon again. You can get off the toxic drugs and live a full life. I'd guess it would take you 1-2 years of diligent work to reverse the damages. There are hundreds if not thousands of people who have been standing in your shoes who got their health back with these techniques. Your GB, being DOWNSTREAM from all the other organs will snap back into focus and be happy again. If you do all this, you will be able to write your own book of how these safe and natural techniques pulled you back from the grasp of the Grim Reaper. Let us know what you decide, Will, pulling for you in Minneapolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 PickPinkFlowers wrote: > > eating a fatty dinner = KFC or steak and baked potato with butter and > sour cream with fresh berries with cream for dessert > > drinking 1/2 cup olive oil at bedtime and spending the night lying > only on your > right side > > taking Epsom salts first thing in the morning when you get up. > Eating that fatty dinner really concerns me. I'll copy below the first purge that I did that my N.D. told me about. Sorry this is long, but it might be helpful to someone. The first purge I did was quite involved but it really started the process of my passing stones: Take 3 Lecithin, 3 B-Complex, 3 Hydrangea and 3 BLG-X with each meal. Available at health food stores. Take 2-4 Cascara Sagrada at night to keep bowels clean. Every A.M. and every P.M. take 2 T olive oil mixed with 2 T fresh squeezed lemon juice. 1 tsp. apple cider vinegar in a glass of water or V-8 juice helps to soften stones. Start: Every A.M., noon and P.M. take the above recipe (olive oil/lemon) for 1 week. Plan the next 2 days to be home. Day 7 start eating light foods only. e.g. applesauce, figs, pears, drinking apple and other juices, V-8 (in glass bottles not cans). Keep up the olive oil and lemon juice. Days 8 and 9 NO FOOD. Juices only. Apple, V-8, olive and lemon. Drink up to 1 gallon of juices a day. End of the 9th day about 5:00 p.m. drink 1 cup olive oil mixed with 1 cup fresh lemon juice. Immediately go to bed and lay still, on your right side and WAIT. Before too many hours, the stones will start to come out. If you wish to save them, use rubber gloves and place stones in a strainer, rinse and put in a container and freeze them. (I did not start passing stones until the following morning.) This first purge is the most difficult. I did it and it started the process of my stones coming out and they are still coming out. My first and only attack was last March 12 and I'm still passing stones. Not every day now as I did for many months, but about twice a week now. I take A-F Beta Food from Standard Process available at health food stores. Dr. Bruce West, whose newsletter I've taken for a decade and a half, says that a doctor he knows, who used to survive by doing GB surgeries, has stopped doing 95% of those surgeries after putting his patients on this A-F Beta Food. I plan to continue taking it. Amber_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 I'm trying to find A-F Beta Food from Standard Process. Which health food stores carry this? Any online stores? thanks Amber <amber@...> wrote: PickPinkFlowers wrote: > > eating a fatty dinner = KFC or steak and baked potato with butter and > sour cream with fresh berries with cream for dessert > > drinking 1/2 cup olive oil at bedtime and spending the night lying > only on your > right side > > taking Epsom salts first thing in the morning when you get up. > Eating that fatty dinner really concerns me. I'll copy below the first purge that I did that my N.D. told me about. Sorry this is long, but it might be helpful to someone. The first purge I did was quite involved but it really started the process of my passing stones: Take 3 Lecithin, 3 B-Complex, 3 Hydrangea and 3 BLG-X with each meal. Available at health food stores. Take 2-4 Cascara Sagrada at night to keep bowels clean. Every A.M. and every P.M. take 2 T olive oil mixed with 2 T fresh squeezed lemon juice. 1 tsp. apple cider vinegar in a glass of water or V-8 juice helps to soften stones. Start: Every A.M., noon and P.M. take the above recipe (olive oil/lemon) for 1 week. Plan the next 2 days to be home. Day 7 start eating light foods only. e.g. applesauce, figs, pears, drinking apple and other juices, V-8 (in glass bottles not cans). Keep up the olive oil and lemon juice. Days 8 and 9 NO FOOD. Juices only. Apple, V-8, olive and lemon. Drink up to 1 gallon of juices a day. End of the 9th day about 5:00 p.m. drink 1 cup olive oil mixed with 1 cup fresh lemon juice. Immediately go to bed and lay still, on your right side and WAIT. Before too many hours, the stones will start to come out. If you wish to save them, use rubber gloves and place stones in a strainer, rinse and put in a container and freeze them. (I did not start passing stones until the following morning.) This first purge is the most difficult. I did it and it started the process of my stones coming out and they are still coming out. My first and only attack was last March 12 and I'm still passing stones. Not every day now as I did for many months, but about twice a week now. I take A-F Beta Food from Standard Process available at health food stores. Dr. Bruce West, whose newsletter I've taken for a decade and a half, says that a doctor he knows, who used to survive by doing GB surgeries, has stopped doing 95% of those surgeries after putting his patients on this A-F Beta Food. I plan to continue taking it. Amber_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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