Re: vaccinations squabbles

August 30, 2008

FWIW, is very open to hearing different opinions and learning from

others! has an open mind as far as her health issues, and is willing to

listen and learn! And also help others with what she knows!

August 30, 2008

Pepper, you don't know me. I am the most UNCONFRONTATIONAL and diplomatic

person imaginable, so you are jumping to conclusions. If you want to call it an

attack, that is okay with me, but it wasn't. I just get sick and tired of

people injuring others in whatever way in this world . . . be it with

immunizations or mercury or fluoride or even some whack nut waiting in an alley

to take the life of someone else even if they live because they will endure PTSD

or psychological problems for the rest of their life . . . That is just me, and

I don't expect you to understand why I wrote what I did. It is for altruistic

reasons far greater than some miniscule and petty and useless reason such as

" confrontation " and " attack. " ly, I have much better things to do with my

life. Like helping people. That is all I care in life, I don't give a crap if

I never get a Ph.D., I don't give a crap if I flip burgers at Mickey D's (not

that I do, but for the

sake of analogy) . . . I don't give a crap if every single person on the face

of the planet mis-identifies my motives, just like you are. All I care about is

PEOPLE BEING HELPED. And when someone gets in the way of the only thing that

matters to me on this earth, then yes, I fire off some barrage of bullets that I

shouldn't. But it's because I already said this is the most passionate subject

of my life.

So, you are wrong, THIS is why.

THE REST OF MY OWN RANT SNIPPED! SEE, SAVED YOU THE TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

August 30, 2008

I know that Pepper can be irritating and upsets people, so I went to my

book, 201 Little Buddhist Reminders, for some advice. Below are some of the

verses I found:

Dealing with Conflict or Difference of Opinion: Observing my opinions, I

see them form and melt like snowflakes. I let go of my opinions, and of my

concern for others' opinions. I choose not to argue with others, but rather

think about ideas with them.

Dealing with Arguments: Arguing is useless. To uproot the anger that

starts an argument, I name it and give it space. I shine the light of

awareness on it and it loses its power over me. I vow to be mindful of my

speech.

Anger: Anger ruins joy, steals the goodness of my mind, and forces my mouth

to say terrible things. Overcoming anger brings peace of mind, leads to a

mind without regrets. If I overcome anger, I will be delightful and loved

by all.

Compassion: Seeing the web of suffering we become entangled in, I become

kind and compassionate to others. This compassion includes myself. I start

in this present moment to practice loving kindness and compassion.

I choose not to argue with Pepper, and I will try to have compassion for her

for she too is dealing with difficult issues. Peace. Helen

August 31, 2008

Thanks for this, I found it very helpful . . .

September 2, 2008

> FWIW, is very open to hearing different opinions and learning

from others! has an open mind as far as her health issues, and

is willing to listen and learn! And also help others with what she

knows!

> WOW! Thanks Diane, Ya she is right I have listened, to many people

on the group talked about things.Even about my sons that have been

passed away for 13 years now.Not being able to have any more children

due to my health issues. Wow!I guess maybe this weekend was not a good

weekend to go out of town man we lost one of our fellow people to

write with.

I feel what everyone has said is so the truth.I feel someone should

contact who needs to be contacted.I have been reading my post from

everyone on the group. PEPPER, you put someone down for there grammer

how petty can someone be? I feel that we should find and bring back

autismepilepsymom and VOTE on who thinks Pepper should leave. We

need to talk about thing that are different.Not listen to Pepper

Bitch.Pretty soon you will have everyone ran off Pepper. Then we can

call this peppercured. I have found to many people have such a dislike

for you that I ask myself why do you keep coming back? If I was on a

group much like us and found out that people diliked me, I would

leave......Leave and not come back.Once you find out how

uncomfortable this is going to be for you maybe you will...OH NO THIS

IS ALL ABOUT PEPPER..........Hope all of you had a wonderful holiday

and hope to talk soon to each and everyone of you.....

>

September 5, 2008

Sanjli, have you considered chelation for your husband? I do not mean to imply

that this is a simple procedure to be taken lightly, it isn't. But my

environmental dentist told me a story of someone who came into his office, and

they were having trouble walking. Upon removal of amalgam fillings, their

symptoms disappeared. Just as removal of amalgams is a serious matter, so is

chelation, and I would not recommend it for everyone. There are many people

with compromised endocrine systems (i.e., thyroid and adrenal issues) who

chelate and become worse. But it might be worth some simple self-education and

investigation. Just food for thought, as I do think there is a mercury

connection with MS, IMHO.

Diane

September 5, 2008

Well . . . just like you can't believe everything you read, I would not believe

everything you see on television, either. There is risk either way, IMHO. I

would go for mercury-free vaccines, as more doctors are beginning to offer

them. But just as it was pointed out in this forum, " mercury-free " does not

mean there isn't anything harmful in them. But at least you would minimize the

risk.

The way I see it is that you might decrease the risk of one disorder, but

increase the risk of another, such as a neurological disorder. It is fairly

difficult to have mercury in the body without some sort of outcome, although as

I pointed out before, the bodies of some can excrete the mercury. But I do also

think that a compromised body in any way, whether from toxins, sickness, etc.

will have less of an ability to excrete heavy metals properly.

Just research the possible outcomes, and ask yourself which you would rather

take a chance of experiencing. I think most children are not at risk of dying

from not being vaccinated. But I do think it is more likely to get a disorder

from mercury poisoning, which might be easier for one person to get than

another, depending on their personal body chemistry and their ability to

excrete. The key here is SELF-EDUCATION. I have learned the hard way, it's

probably not a good idea to make any major medical decision, including surgery,

without self-education and research. An informed decision never hurts, but may

help.

Diane

September 5, 2008

I believe ALL vaccines contain *trace* amounts of mercury. No agency monitors

this amount.

From: Diane <heyitsme_di@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: vaccinations squabbles

Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:07 PM