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In a message dated 11/26/2004 2:28:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kristinac2539@... writes:

> thought of drinking those epsom salts and the effect it has--feeling

> dehydrated and tired until the next morning.

I also have a problem becoming dehydrated (and as a result, tired) from Epsom

Salts -- although I plan to continue to take it. Epsom Salts sure relieves

the pain and opens up those ducts.

I have two suggestions : The easist is to add some liquid minerals to a glass

of water between each dose of E.S. That should not compromise the flush and

will stabilize your electrolytes. I am not talking about Gatorade, I am talking

about a liquid ionic mineral that you put a few drops in a glass of water.

I also use a substance called BioPlasma. You find it at the health foods

store or online at somewhere that sells homoepathics. It is a combo of cell

salts

in little pellets. The bottle (costs about $15) contains a thousand pellets

and I take about 15-20 each time, let them melt under my tongue and continue

with the flush. That too seems to stabilize my mineral balance and makes me feel

better.

Hope those ideas help.

(Atlanta feels colder at this moment than Minneapolis)

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> Does anyone know of a substitute for the epsom salts, they are so

> nasty that I am almost afraid to flush again,

Someone on this list once put epsom salts into capsules and took it in

that form. But I seem to remember it took so long to do it that she

didn't do very many and didn't do the flush as well as she might have

done otherwise.

I've taken tablets for a bowel cleanse with a flush, especially the

day after instead of epsom salts. Especially I've taken OxyPowder. But

don't take too many, they can have a DRAMATIC effect.

Personally I can take the epsom salts.I tend to take them in very

concentrate form and then drink a bottle of water with them. I figure

they become diluted enough inside of me when I do it quickly.

I have a hard time with the olive oil, I really can't stand the smell.

Is there a substitute I can use?

Tina

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> > Does anyone know of a substitute for the epsom salts, they are so

> > nasty that I am almost afraid to flush again,

I have seen messages on curezone where people mentioned using

magnesium citrate instead of epsom salts. Not sure about the

taste though.

> I have a hard time with the olive oil, I really can't stand the

smell.

> Is there a substitute I can use?

There was one person on curezone who

mentioned using heavy cream instead of olive oil

for a bunch of flushes. I vaguely remember someone

mentioning another oil (safflower? sunflower?).

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I hope someone has an alternative to your olive oil. I thought I'd vomit it

too but the grapefruit made it not so bad after all. It was the Epsom salt

that had me feeling nauseated. They also gave me the shakes and I felt hot

and feverish. :o(

on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 06:45:25 -0000 " frinh96221 " <frinh96221@...>

>

>> Does anyone know of a substitute for the epsom salts, they are so nasty that

>> I am almost afraid to flush again,

>>

> Someone on this list once put epsom salts into capsules and took it in that

> form. But I seem to remember it took so long to do it that she didn't do very

> many and didn't do the flush as well as she might have done otherwise.

>

> I've taken tablets for a bowel cleanse with a flush, especially the day after

> instead of epsom salts. Especially I've taken OxyPowder. But don't take too

> many, they can have a DRAMATIC effect.

>

> Personally I can take the epsom salts.I tend to take them in very concentrate

> form and then drink a bottle of water with them. I figure they become diluted

> enough inside of me when I do it quickly.

>

> I have a hard time with the olive oil, I really can't stand the smell. Is

> there a substitute I can use?

>

> Tina

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In a message dated 11/27/2004 7:21:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jankaraka@... writes:

> I hope someone has an alternative to your olive oil. I thought I'd vomit

> it

> too but the grapefruit made it not so bad after all. It was the Epsom salt

> that had me feeling nauseated. They also gave me the shakes and I felt hot

> and feverish. :o(

>

Please search for " Jay Townsend " a regular poster here last year. He

discusses the hot and feverish pheonomena in depth. He has flushed more than 30

times

and shares a wealth of info in his posts. Take the time to read it and you

will gain much in making your flushes more successful.

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>>>I have seen messages on curezone where people mentioned using

magnesium citrate instead of epsom salts. Not sure about the

taste though. <<<

>>>There was one person on curezone who

mentioned using heavy cream instead of olive oil

for a bunch of flushes. <<<

Hi Truvirgil,

Although I would not want to make any recommendations, as this kind of thing

must be a personal choice, the flush protocol (link below) with which I have

personally had success calls for magnesium citrate (Oxy-powder) and epsoms, as

well as heavy cream and strawberries. It is virtually the same as the

Kelley Liver Flush Protocol from " One Answer to Cancer " , as outlined at

the Curezone liver flush site.

I had trouble with fasting and found that the berries and cream were a

welcome relief in the evening, giving me a little energy boost, replenishing

some of

those electrolytes. The magnesium citrate (a colon cleanser substitute) is

used along with super-phos (helps dissolve calcium stones) for 4 days prior to

the flush. That way, the morning after your flush, all that is passed are

stones...there is really nothing else left in your system, as the remnants of

the

strawberries and cream are passed the night before from the swift action of the

epsoms. I mixed my epsoms with freshly squeezed grapefruit juice, so it was

much more palatable. The oil was okay to swallow with a straw and alternate

swigs of lemon juice.

http://www.ghchealth.com/liver-and-gallbladder-flush.html

Some feel the Oxy-powder is expensive, but I use it daily for maintenance (2

caps), as well as for flush prepping, and find a bottle lasts almost 2 months.

We've had the " substitute for epsom salts " discussion a while back. You may

find some useful info in the archives on that, though, if memory serves, the

general consensus was that the epsoms were the optimal way to go, because of

their action in dilating the bile ducts to allow passage of stones, cleansing

the

colon and pain reduction during an attack.

All the best to you in your search!

Peace, n

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--- jdkristina <kristinac2539@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a substitute for the epsom

> salts, they are so

> nasty that I am almost afraid to flush again, and I

> have done it 6

> times now, every single time I just want to scream

> from the thought

> of drinking those epsom salts and the effect it

> has--feeling

> dehydrated and tired until the next morning.

Do you mix it with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice

and take it refrigerated? Still not at all my

favorite drink but drinking it cold seems to help.

Personally, I do sip water during the night. It hasn't

made the cleanse any less effective.

Sounds like your really making great progress!

Hope all have had a nice Thanksgiving weekend

without to much trouble from all the good food!

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com/gallbladder.html

=====

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

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I have used magnesium citrate. It tastes fine , good actually. I

took it first thing in the am. " Midlothian girl " on curezone does this

and says her flushes are just as productive.

Incidentally, I did not pass stones the 2 times I used the mag citrate.

I thought maybe it was not opening the ducts, so I changed back to E.S.

for my last flush. I got a few tiny stones, so I think maybe I am

cleaned out now.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: truvirgil [mailto:virgil@...]

> Sent: November 27, 2004 5:55 AM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: any substitute for epsom salts?

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> > > Does anyone know of a substitute for the epsom salts, they are so

> > > nasty that I am almost afraid to flush again,

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> I have seen messages on curezone where people mentioned using

> magnesium citrate instead of epsom salts. Not sure about the

> taste though.

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> > I have a hard time with the olive oil, I really can't stand the

> smell.

> > Is there a substitute I can use?

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> There was one person on curezone who

> mentioned using heavy cream instead of olive oil

> for a bunch of flushes. I vaguely remember someone

> mentioning another oil (safflower? sunflower?).

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Thanks!

on Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:11:50 EST: mackarmstr@... wrote:

> Please search for " Jay Townsend " a regular poster here last year. He discusses

> the hot and feverish pheonomena in depth. He has flushed more than 30 times

> and shares a wealth of info in his posts. Take the time to read it and you

> will gain much in making your flushes more successful.

>

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