Re: Re: I'm new here, may have a Gall Bladder problem

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Blood test should have also noted a change in the cell counts and that would

have been a warning sign to a doctor of something happening other than just

gallstones.

http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/28/main.html

If you are familiar with two people having the same condition of cancer and they

lived in the same general area it would behoove a quest into seeing if there is

an environment condition of which may be a root cause to the disease's

forthcoming and just how prevelent it may be in that area for a certain type of

cancer. How do you think they figured out that asbestos would be a root cause of

lung cancer?

Dale

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Dale " <Da_@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: I'm new here, may have a Gall Bladder problem

> If you are familiar with two people having the same condition of cancer

> and they lived in the same general area it would behoove a quest into

> seeing if there is an environment condition of which may be a root cause

> to the disease's forthcoming and just how prevelent it may be in that area

> for a certain type of cancer. How do you think they figured out that

> asbestos would be a root cause of lung cancer?

>

> Dale

Yeah, or diet and lifestyle! -Dave

>

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Norton " <sn11386@...>

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Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: I'm new here, may have a Gall Bladder problem

>

> Dear Will,

>

> My Grandmother just passed away from Gallbladder

> cancer 3 months ago. My mom's friend mother just

> passed away 3 months ago too from gallbladder cancer

> and she was doing the cleanseing stuff, but because

> she was doing that it caused her

It didn't cause her anything... she decided.

to wait 3 years to

> get her gallbladder out and when they took it out they

> found that she had cancer growing in it, but because

> she waited there was nothing they could do for her.

And what could they have done for her if she had not? What is the mean life

expectancy of gallbladder cancer for someone her age? Was it even

gallbladder cancer or a metastases from somewhere else? If she had (?) been

cleansing for three years then she at the least was in a pre neoplastic

situation when she had whatever incident that prompted her to start

cleansing. Those with gallstones are at higher risk of gallbladder cancer.

However those that retain their gallbladder have a lower risk of other

cancers. If you cut your gallbladder out you cannot get gallbladder cancer.

Of course if you cut off your breasts you can't get breast cancer either

(some people do... preventatively!). You by the way are far more likely to

" get " breast cancer statistically. Come to think of it, we can survive

without our colons, we could wear a bag instead and suffer through the

inconvenience and then we could not get colon cancer (third largest killer

in America) either, could we? While there are many types of cancer, the

cellular dysfunctions are similar, they are different tissue types that go

whacko (presenting different treatment issues).

Saving your gallbladder and going the " natural " route offers no

guarantees. Just a better chance at a " quality life.

>

> I'm glad that you like the herb stuff and cleanseing,

Hey, lets see a show of hands. How many of you out there are doing it this

way because you like this herb stuff and cleansing? Or is it as I assume,

that you would like to retain an important organ and feel that this avenue

offers a better chance at length and quality of life?

> but sometimes it is a good idea to just get it out.

True, but rarely.

> Hospitals are not scary,

You are far braver than I.

as long as you take

> precautions

What precautions?

and ask lots of questions.

They can't give me an educated answer to the questions I ask. As of '93 Out

of 126 medical schools in the country only 3 had any kind of required

nutritional course to get a degree. We put the medical establishment in the

position of expert on health both culturally and legally when they have no

training in it. They are schooled in sick, and then myopically so.

>

> I think that she () should at least go get a ultra sound.

I agree emphatically.

And X-RAYS and radiation dosge does not cause breast cancer.

Pardon me- BULLSHIT!

>

> Norton

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Do Xrays cause cancer? A question debated here recently. The US government

seems to think so.

Updated: 12:29 AM EST

Hepatitis Viruses, Grilling Added to Cancer Causers List

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WASHINGTON (Jan. 31) - The government is adding viruses for

the first time to its list of known or suspected causes of cancer, including

hepatitis B and C and a third virus that causes sexually transmitted

diseases. Lead, X-rays and compounds in grilled meats also are joining the

list.

It has been known that the hepatitis viruses can cause liver cancer and that

some forms of the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus can cause

cervical cancer.

But they were added to the list Monday only after officials decided to go

beyond the report's historical focus on the occupational and environmental

causes of cancer, said Dr. Portier, associate director of the

National Toxicology Program, which prepared the latest update.

" We felt (the report) needed to be expanded to include other things in our

general environment that can cause cancer,'' Portier said.

Dr. Thun, who runs the American Cancer Society's epidemiological

program, said adding the viruses was important. " These are human carcinogens

and

very important carcinogens,'' he said.

The list, which now identifies 246 known or suspected cancer-causing agents,

is intended to give people who may or may not be exposed to any of the

substances something to think about, he said.

Take X-rays, added to the " known'' category. " This is simply to remind them

that when they are making a decision about an X-ray to think about it and

talk it over with your physician,'' Portier said.

But the American College of Radiology faulted the addition of X-rays and

gamma rays, saying it was misleading and could prompt patients to avoid getting

needed care.

" X-rays and gamma rays are not substances that the general public has access

or exposure to and do not belong on a list of substances that pose a risk to

people in the course of their normal, daily lives,'' Dr. Borgstede,

chairman of the radiology college's board of chancellors, said in a statement.

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