Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 @@@ : > i found this reccomendation for a shortcut, & slightly Westernised > fermented cabbage juice production method ,.....whilst surfing the net... @@@ Hi , Nice find! That could be a real nice trick for folks whose LF cabbage impetus is more medicinal than gustatory. It put some crazy ideas in my mind, like " sauerkraut smoothie " , " liquid kimchi " , etc. If we can blenderize a salad and call it gazpacho soup, why not try making " kimchi soup " , but not the usual recipe of adding kimchi to a cooked soup, but just adding water to the kimchi mix right in the beginning, liquify the mixture, and let it ferment already soupified? I suppose it might be worth trying at least once! It sure would make it easier to ferment liquids like that compared to the pounding/packing efforts of usual kimchi and kraut. I know the two biggest tradeoffs would involve texture and taste! Pretty big issues of course! I suppose these ferments wouldn't last as long in storage either. Just an interesting line of thinking spurred by this LF cabbage juice idea... Maybe the juice crowd can chime in here: couldn't you run cabbage through a juicer and get this end result even easier? Just juice and then ferment. I know I've heard anecdotes about cabbage juice in the past, like it was a sensation in the alternative health world in decades past or something? I do recall reading in a Mingus biography that every few months or so after too much pigging out on junk food and having an unhealthy lifestyle on the road, etc, there was some health guru friend he had who would take him in and put him on a cabbage juice diet for a few days or so and he'd recover, repeating the cycle many times. Something like that. . Mike SE Pennsylvania The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I've made saltless sauerkraut many times and then preferred to run it through a juicer and drink the juice. Delicious! Can do it straight or along with uncultured vegetables As for Charlie Mungis, uncultured cabbage juice is good for the stomach but not much fun to drink. I've juiced it. Dan Re: Cultured Cabbage Juice recipe @@@ : > i found this reccomendation for a shortcut, & slightly Westernised > fermented cabbage juice production method ,.....whilst surfing the net... @@@ Hi , Nice find! That could be a real nice trick for folks whose LF cabbage impetus is more medicinal than gustatory. It put some crazy ideas in my mind, like " sauerkraut smoothie " , " liquid kimchi " , etc. If we can blenderize a salad and call it gazpacho soup, why not try making " kimchi soup " , but not the usual recipe of adding kimchi to a cooked soup, but just adding water to the kimchi mix right in the beginning, liquify the mixture, and let it ferment already soupified? I suppose it might be worth trying at least once! It sure would make it easier to ferment liquids like that compared to the pounding/packing efforts of usual kimchi and kraut. I know the two biggest tradeoffs would involve texture and taste! Pretty big issues of course! I suppose these ferments wouldn't last as long in storage either. Just an interesting line of thinking spurred by this LF cabbage juice idea... Maybe the juice crowd can chime in here: couldn't you run cabbage through a juicer and get this end result even easier? Just juice and then ferment. I know I've heard anecdotes about cabbage juice in the past, like it was a sensation in the alternative health world in decades past or something? I do recall reading in a Mingus biography that every few months or so after too much pigging out on junk food and having an unhealthy lifestyle on the road, etc, there was some health guru friend he had who would take him in and put him on a cabbage juice diet for a few days or so and he'd recover, repeating the cycle many times. Something like that. . Mike SE Pennsylvania The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I Hi People , Some of you may find this recipie (or a variation of)...may help with your some of your symptoms Its a recomendation/recipie for a shortcut, & slightly Westernised fermented cabbage juice production method (ie quickie version of Sauerkraut). http://homodiet.netfirms.com/otherssay/letters/cabbage_juice.htm CABBAGE JUICE A prime requirement for health is to improve the flora of your gut! Instead of spending big bucks for all the pseudo gut bacteria that's being pushed, here is simple, cheap and very effective way make your own the traditional way. As is almost always the case, the best medicine is yet again a food... See " The Importance of Lactobacteria " @ http://www.holistichorizons.com/hh102.htm Gupta -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CULTURED CABBAGE JUICE To implant friendly lactobacteria in the colon and heal damaged mucus membranes of the G.I. tract, you need to drink about 1 and 1/2 cup daily of cultured cabbage juice. Here is how to make it. Fill blender with chopped green cabbage and add distilled water until about 2/3 full. (Do not use well water or tap water). Beat at high speed in the blender for one minute. Pour mixture into bowl and repeat with two more batches. Cover with Seran wrap or similar material and let stand at room temperature. After 3 days, the cabbage juice solution is ready to use. Strain the mixture to separate the liquid from the pulp. Place the cultured cabbage juice in refrigerator. Drink 1/2 cup of this solution diluted with an equal part of water 2 or 3 times each day. When your supply gets low, make second batch just like the first one, except, add 1/2 cup of the juice from the first batch to the second batch. Your second batch will be ready just 24 hours. This process may be repeated indefinitely. Each serving contains several billion friendly lactobacteria. The lactic acid in the culture cabbage juice will purify the G.I. tract and kill most strains of fungi parasites and other pathogens. You should drink this mixture until your stools float in the toilet bowl and are odor free. When that happens, you may lower your dosage of cultured cabbage juice to one serving each day as maintenance dosage. You may eat one cup of raw cabbage as a substitute for 1/2 cup of cultured cabbage juice. Excerpted from " Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy " By Conrad Lebeau. 11th Edition This little book could save your life!, March 7, 2001 Reviewer: Chuck Olson from Bellville, TX USA Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) is perhaps THE best kept secret of the mainstream medical community! Why? Because it works! This little book puts in simple text how H2O2 is nothing more than water with an extra molecule of oxygen, and how ingesting 35% food grade H2O2 can put you on the road to a disease free life. It dispels the myth that H2O2 is somehow BAD for you, which couldn't be further from the truth! Using a recipe in this book, I made an " Oxygel " which I then used to treat and remove a pre-cancerous keratinoma from my arm which my doctor says would have resulted in a melanoma eventually! A natural chemo-therapy? You make the call. This book is a MUST for anyone interested in being disease free! Stop being brainwashed and led around with a nose ring by today's conventional medical community whose own self serving, money hungry interests are keeping you from being your best! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1887831029/qid=1034269326/sr=1-3/r\ ef=sr_1_3/10 2-9625899-6399331?v=glance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Mike, It's still used among people who juice. I juice cabbage and drink it without fermenting it, but I mix it with other veggies, like carrots, celery, parsley, beets, collard greens etc. I like the taste of juiced veggies, and find it very refreshing and invigorating. I think it's one of those 'acquired tastes', though. Carol I know I've heard anecdotes about cabbage juice in the past, like it was a sensation in the alternative health world in decades past or something? Mike SE Pennsylvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 >It sure would make it easier >to ferment liquids like that compared to the pounding/packing efforts >of usual kimchi and kraut. I know the two biggest tradeoffs would >involve texture and taste! Pretty big issues of course! I suppose >these ferments wouldn't last as long in storage either. Just an >interesting line of thinking spurred by this LF cabbage juice idea... Tabasco sauce is an example of a long-term fermented " pulverized " juice idea, tho I don't think they use cabbage. A lot of chili sauces use a base of pulverized carrots, onions, and other vegies though, and I guess they were fermented for a long time (either by choice or because no one had invented fridges yet). I think pulverizing some cabbage to make juice instead of pounding saves some time, though in my case I pulverize dried fish with water, salt if needed, chili, and other stuff so I'm adding a sauce anyway. The sauce is usually enough that I don't need to pound the cabbage. I've also just added water or salt water when I'm feeling lazy, rather than pounding, and it works fine. Also I add more water sometimes because I like having extra " kimchi juice " which I use for flavoring in soups etc. Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer " > Tabasco sauce is an example of a long-term fermented " pulverized " > juice idea, tho I don't think they use cabbage. Cayenne peppers, vinegar (corn), and salt. Kegged in charred hickory and left for 7 years. Okay, my mouth is watering now. --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Thanks for people who responded to my post ...I made my a batch of cabbage Kraut last night (only the second ever...although i have done 1 non cabbage ferment as well). I was intending too part incorporate some of the " Cultured Cabbage juice " idea just too save time...In the end I did about 65% roughly pounded cabbage & 35% blended ... In the end though I dont think blending saved me much time (not the way I do it anyway)..so I dont know that I will bother in future ..(since if you have normal pounded Kraut ...you can always throw it into a blender with other raw /cooked veg or whatever anyway). I hadnt considered that blended Kraut might not last as long in the fridge after completion ..so this is another reason why I might not bother with the blender step next time...I will see how this batch goes anyway. Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 03:36:43 -0500 From: Anton <michaelantonparker@...> Subject: Re: Cultured Cabbage Juice recipe @@@ : > i found this reccomendation for a shortcut, & slightly Westernised > fermented cabbage juice production method ,.....whilst surfing the net... @@@ Hi , Nice find! That could be a real nice trick for folks whose LF cabbage impetus is more medicinal than gustatory. It put some crazy ideas in my mind, like " sauerkraut smoothie " , " liquid kimchi " , etc. If we can blenderize a salad and call it gazpacho soup, why not try making " kimchi soup " , but not the usual recipe of adding kimchi to a cooked soup, but just adding water to the kimchi mix right in the beginning, liquify the mixture, and let it ferment already soupified? I suppose it might be worth trying at least once! It sure would make it easier to ferment liquids like that compared to the pounding/packing efforts of usual kimchi and kraut. I know the two biggest tradeoffs would involve texture and taste! Pretty big issues of course! I suppose these ferments wouldn't last as long in storage either. Just an interesting line of thinking spurred by this LF cabbage juice idea... Maybe the juice crowd can chime in here: couldn't you run cabbage through a juicer and get this end result even easier? Just juice and then ferment. I know I've heard anecdotes about cabbage juice in the past, like it was a sensation in the alternative health world in decades past or something? I do recall reading in a Mingus biography that every few months or so after too much pigging out on junk food and having an unhealthy lifestyle on the road, etc, there was some health guru friend he had who would take him in and put him on a cabbage juice diet for a few days or so and he'd recover, repeating the cycle many times. Something like that. . Mike SE Pennsylvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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