Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 What is the ancient diet? Nina *********** ******************** >From: denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...> >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: myFlush >Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:02:04 -0700 (PDT) > >HI, >Well said Nina. >I'm not a strong flush advocate, at least not more >than once every 3 months or so >because I got rid of impossible gallbladder attacks, >numbing pain in my arms light colored stools and so >many other symptoms by changing my diet from vegan to >more ancient and I increased my water intake. >Some will tell you to double flush every week and the >thought of that makes me cringe, really. >So yes you must listen to your own body and yes >perception is key. > >--- nina vitus <ninavitus@...> wrote: > > > I have an especially soft spot in my heart for > > people who question what > > everyone else accepts as the truth. It doesn't mean > > I always agree with > > them, but God knows we NEED those people and their > > questions. > > > > When I had my gallstone attack (not ER type of > > attack, but painful and > > worrisome) I did a cleanse and a flush. I didn't > > see the stone come out, > > but I did FEEL it and it felt like a hot searing > > iron was being shoved > > through a small opening (took several seconds) and > > then that area was really > > sore for a couple of weeks and then it got itchy. > > So, based on what I > > felt, I was positive I had passed the stone that was > > stuck in my > > gall-bladder. I mentioned the incident to a friend > > who is an RN (registered > > nurse) and when I told her about the flush I did, > > she said that hospitals > > are now doing something like that for some people > > who come in with gall > > bladder attacks. I didn't go into it any further or > > ask for any more > > information because I felt what I was doing was > > working for me. > > > > This next part may seem off-topic at first, but I > > promise it will come back > > to this subject: I was an evangelical Christian for > > 25 years and for the > > last 15 of those years I really struggled with > > trying to find out which > > point of view the THE RIGHT one. Was it Calvinism > > (Once saved always saved) > > or Armenianism (You can lose your salvation)........ > > Speaking in > > tongues--from God or from Satan?.....there were many > > many more such issues. > > I just wanted the truth. Eventually what I found > > was that each of us is on > > our own spiritual journey and it isn't so much about > > which fact is the > > absolute truth.....it IS about the journey and about > > making the connection > > with God (however you define that) and about being > > led to where you are > > supposed to go. I find the same dern discrepancies > > in my health journey. > > Who really knows the truth about anything---one week > > eggs and chocolate are > > good for you, the next they aren't and back and > > forth. Scientific evidence > > changes on the perspective of the person conducting > > the tests and different > > people will do the same test with the same controls > > and get different > > results. I'm sorta thinking there is no absolute > > truth.....no one thing > > that works absolutely perfectly, everytime, for > > every one. If a person is > > convinced that these flushes aren't working or won't > > work for them, then I > > think they are correct. Maybe it just won't work > > because its the wrong > > thing for that person, maybe it is the wrong thing > > for everyone....maybe the > > ideas and belief that it won't causes it not to > > work, just as strong belief > > that something will work, affects the outcome or > > perhaps it just isn't > > working at this time because there is still > > something you need to learn from > > having the condition. Bottom line is that everyone > > has to follow their own > > path in their own time and in their own way and do > > what works for them, what > > they believe will take them where they need to go > > and by all means make sure > > you are following where God is leading because the > > physical journey cannot > > be separated from the spiritual journey. > > > > So, yes, we need people who question our path, so we > > are reminded to > > check-in now and then and make sure we are still > > actually on the correct > > path and haven't been led blindly astray. > > > > Bless you, > > > > Nina > > > > > > > > *********** ******************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: boris baker <boris_bkr@...> > > >Reply-gallstones > > >gallstones > > >Subject: Re: myFlush > > >Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:28:05 +0100 (BST) > > > > > >hi, > > > > > >i have red hundreds of pages of curezone and read > > thousand of views of > > >different people and now think that ---- > > > > > >1. nobody totally get rid of their gall stones > > expect few, (but not > > >totally) you can count them on fingers, some of > > them are naturopaths, who > > >never denied, not in any case that flush does not > > work in expelling gall > > >bladder stones, repeat gall bladder stones, not > > the liver stones. > > > > > > > > >2. it is my personal experience and the view i > > have ever read in curezone > > >pages that the stones we are expelling are liver > > stones they are real liver > > >stones but never the gall stones (in rare cases > > gall stones) > > > > > >3. we can cure further making of gall stones from > > flush. > > > > > >4. symptoms may disappear from liver flush, for > > some time due to > > >expelling of stones from liver, but come again due > > to gall bladder stones. > > > > > > > > >5. One can say this only a liver flush. not gall > > bladder flush. > > > > > >6. every (mostly) people after liver flush > > including me, do ultrasound > > >and found that the amount of stones in gb are still > > same. > > > > > >7. it is possible that one can remove their gall > > stones by surgery and > > >then do liver flush for healthy liver and healthy > > bile. > > > > > >8. One cannot get rid of gall bladder stones. > > > > > >Some people become dissappointed by this mail but > > one has to accept the > > >truth. as liver flush is worth while for a healthy > > liver healthy bile for > > >not for expelling gall bladder stones. > > > > > > > > >With Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >boris baker <boris_bkr@...> wrote: > > >hi, > > > > > >we do not enter into any debate. > > >the person who is using safflower oil is also > > expelling green stones. > > >as safflower oil is clear i.e. without any colour. > > >on the other hand it is true that in most of the > > cases of surgery the > > >stones come out by the surgery are hard like rock, > > grey in colour and not > > >mostly green in colour. and in flushes we always > > expell green stones. it > > >cannot be true and we all in the world are mostly > > same stones (this is the > > >matter which is to be suspect about the liver > > flush) if flush work than > > >the gall bladder expell its all stones which is > > hard like rock. > > >it seems to me after reading thousands of pages of > > cure zone and with my > > >experience as i done 6 flushes. it seems that THE > > STONES OF GREEN STONES > > >WE EXPELL IN OUR FLUSH IS REAL STONES BUT STONES > > FROM >=== message truncated === > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 hi, Ancient diet is just some term I threw out there but it basically is the way ancient people ate according to ancient text the Bible is one example. One of my favorite health books tells all about it basically and it's called Patient Heal Thyself. Basic idea Eat in moderation For animal products ocean caught fish (none of that tank bred stuff in captivity and lacking so many of the good nutrients) Also healthy grass fed red meats like goat, lamb, bison, buffalo (none of the hybrid beef pumped with steroids and antibiotics and living in captivity and hybridized over the years to our detriment). etc. Raw dairy, like raw goat yogurt, raw goat kefir, raw goat cheese omega 3 eggs lots of vegetables, especially the green stuff and fruits lots of berries Eat over half of the foods raw especially the vegetables of course Fermented vegetables like raw sauerkraut. Of course there is more to it but this is just the basics. It is my belief through the reading I've done that different people in different bodies develop gallstones from different causes. Depending on age, lifestyle, diet, stress level, genetics and other factors I probably don't know about. In my case it was a combination of my liver being overstressed dealing with hydrogenated fats on my vegan diet completely void of healthy animal fats I consumed, and eating too much sugar and chronic dehydration and probably and probably soy products which had been completely foreign to my body even though I was mostly using organic and too much Bikram yoga and a litte stress from obsessing about my health since age 9 And some repressed anger. figuring out the cause helped me change things in my life accordingly. --- nina vitus <ninavitus@...> wrote: > What is the ancient diet? > > Nina > > > > *********** ******************** > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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