Re: Re: daughter just diagnosed w/ gallstones

April 16, 2005

I suggest encouraging your daughter to start regular exercise (if she

doesn't already), changing her diet and cutting out sugar altogether.

Sugar, stress, poor diet, and lack of regular exercise are causes of

gallstones. Constipation due to a poor diet would also be a

contributing factor. Perhaps if the whole family worked together on it,

she would feel encouragement.

The cleansing really works. You might want to read some of Dr. Hulda

's books. The Cure for All Diseases got me started on it. She

states that even children and the elderly can handle cleanses. Her

latest book, The Cure for HIV/Aids gives some alternative cleansing

methods, such as adding extra oil on the second day of the cleanse,

which I've done successfully to get out more stones. Though the epsom

salts are really necessary because the bile ducts will be open and

stones can come out very easily without any pain because they get pooped

out into the toilet. You can see them in all the different colors,

green, red, black, tan.

I did all of the kidney cleanse herbs about 12 years ago and also zapped

prior to each cleanse, but this time around I'm not doing any of that

and still having really excellent results with the cleanses. I do

suggest though a parasite program the week of the cleanse, such as 4

drops of oil of oregano in a little water twice a day. That kills

parasites and is something you can easily buy at your local health food

store. I suggest getting non-alcohol extracts only.

Add lecithin capsules prior to each meal, and flax seed oil. I take the

oil in a shake so I don't taste it. Make sure she gets enough fiber and

her b.m.'s should be soft. If they're hard, she needs more water and

fiber in the diet. This will help prevent stones. But make sure to cut

out the sugar and add exercise, too, or she risks getting stones again.

I read that there's a 40% chance of getting stones due to lack of

exercise, and women are more likely to get stones than men.

Namaste,

April 21, 2005

Thank you. Our surgeon doesn't do this gallbladder

function test but a GI dr might. Her big stone is

3/4 " in diameter! Is this too large to break up w/

these herbs? Do they actually break them up? She

also has 2 polyps. I am concerned this could turn

into cancer...don't know what kinds of polyps they are

and maybe they aren't polyps at all. One bile duct is

dilated also.

Would Milk of Magnesia have any effect on these

stones? She has been taking it some for constipation.

She also takes some Magnesium Malate. I am going to

get her some organic unfiltered apple juice to drink.

She eats a fairly healthy diet.

She was made very sick on a lot of medication for a

number of years which made her gain weight. I think

this was the cause of the problem. I used to trust

drs but no more!!! Still, I don't want to do anything

which will hurt her health even more just because I

hate drs and conventional medicine.

I don't have much time to do tons of reading...am

being pressured into this surgery and also I have a

special needs child who needs lots of care so don't

have much time/energy.

Thank you,

Hurt_by_meds

--- ccordell1 <cscordell@...> wrote:

Luckily the surgeon ran another type of

> scan to measure

> the function of the gallbladder

I ordered the herbs from

> www.sensiblehealth.com, she

> has a four pack that contains: coptis, curcuma,

> chinese bitters and

> gold coin grass.

__________________________________________________

April 21, 2005

Thank you for your input. Here's my daughter's

situation: she was made very sick on medication for

several years and couldn't exercise or do much of

anything. This is over now, thankfully, and she is

exercising more and trying to slowly lose weight. She

eats a fairly healthy diet w/ lots of salads, veggies

and fruit. She drinks lots of water. Still, she

stays chronically constipated. She has been taking

Magnesium Malate for about a year. She often doesn't

feel that great and has some nausea which seems to be

happening more and more often. She has 3/4 " gallstone

and 2 polyps and also a dilated bile duct. She

recently started taking Milk of Magnesia which has

worked wonders for her constipation but I know it is

not good for her to take laxatives. But do you know

if this could help dissolve the gallstone?

I have tried to give her different cleansing herbs the

last couple of years but even in *very* small amounts,

they make her feel bad. Ex: milk thistle, she might

tolerate 1 drop, but no more. Also tried 1/2 capsule

of black walnut...she felt really bad for several

days. Colon cleanse herbs 1/2 capsule...feels bad

later. Small amounts of various cleansing

products...same result. I thought she was just so

toxic and that her colon was so clogged that she got

sick for this reason but maybe it had to do more w/

the gallbladder. She has AB blood type and tries to

eat according to what is supposed to be good for her

type. She can do infra-red sauna treatments. Does

anyone know if this can help?

I wish I had time to do lots of reading and research

but I also have a profoundly retarded son who requires

total care and am under pressure from the dr and my

husband to get this surgery done. She is out of

school this semester but needs to start back in Aug or

earlier possibly.

I am afraid to try to do these flushes...afraid they

will cause pancreatitis or whatever. Also, I don't

want to raise her estrogen level, although she has not

had her levels checked anytime recently.

Thanks,

Kathy

--- lightwalkercathy@... wrote:

> I suggest encouraging your daughter to start regular

> exercise (if she

> doesn't already), changing her diet and cutting out

> sugar altogether.

> Sugar, stress, poor diet, and lack of regular

> exercise are causes of

> gallstones. Constipation due to a poor diet would

> also be a

> contributing factor. Perhaps if the whole family

> worked together on it,

> she would feel encouragement.

>

> The cleansing really works. You might want to read

> some of Dr. Hulda

> 's books. The Cure for All Diseases got me

> started on it. She

> states that even children and the elderly can handle

> cleanses. Her

> latest book, The Cure for HIV/Aids gives some

> alternative cleansing

> methods, such as adding extra oil on the second day

> of the cleanse,

> which I've done successfully to get out more stones.

> Though the epsom

> salts are really necessary because the bile ducts

> will be open and

> stones can come out very easily without any pain

> because they get pooped

> out into the toilet. You can see them in all the

> different colors,

> green, red, black, tan.

>

> I did all of the kidney cleanse herbs about 12 years

> ago and also zapped

> prior to each cleanse, but this time around I'm not

> doing any of that

> and still having really excellent results with the

> cleanses. I do

> suggest though a parasite program the week of the

> cleanse, such as 4

> drops of oil of oregano in a little water twice a

> day. That kills

> parasites and is something you can easily buy at

> your local health food

> store. I suggest getting non-alcohol extracts only.

>

> Add lecithin capsules prior to each meal, and flax

> seed oil. I take the

> oil in a shake so I don't taste it. Make sure she

> gets enough fiber and

> her b.m.'s should be soft. If they're hard, she

> needs more water and

> fiber in the diet. This will help prevent stones.

> But make sure to cut

> out the sugar and add exercise, too, or she risks

> getting stones again.

>

> I read that there's a 40% chance of getting stones

> due to lack of

> exercise, and women are more likely to get stones

> than men.

>

> Namaste,

>

__________________________________________________

April 21, 2005

I caution you against getting your daughter's gallbladder out. From

reading the Cure Zone's emails on the subject, I believe it causes

permanent diahrea. We were born with organs in our body for a reason.

Conventional doctors like a quick fix, and for most of them, know little

about natural healing.

Cleansing takes time, but is natural and effective. I've found the

cleanses to work really well, with no problems as long as you follow Dr.

's method. The epsom salts dilate the bile ducts which allow the

stones to pass through the rectum without any pain during the cleanse.

They come out into the toilet very easily and effortlessly. You really

will find it very easy as long as you follow the directions on the

cleanse very closely. If no epsom salts are taken with the cleanse,

there will very likely be nausea.

I recommend drinking lots of natural apple juice, not grocery store

brands, because there is malic acid in the natural juice which helps

cleanse the gallbladder and liver and removes more stones than if no

juice is consumed. Apple juice and fruit on the day of the cleanse and

nothing else. I don't have any hunger because I eat 1 banana in the

morning and another around 1:30 p.m. Also, all morning drink about 48

ounces of the juice and a glass or two of water up until 2 p.m. Nothing

after 2 pm, not even water. No vitamins, no medication on that day at

all.

Bowel cleanses are also effective for constipation, however the liver

cleanse is a sure thing. However, the problems won't be cleared up

overnight. Stick to the cleansing routine regularly to have the

quickest results.

I'm finally have really good b.m.'s regularly, particularly with the

Green Vibrance which is a green powdered drink from the health food

store.

I also recommend supplements. Food enzymes (2 with every meal and with

vitamins) help us digest foods, lactobacillus capsules, green drinks (I

like Green Vibrance as it has all of this and more), lecithin capsules

(1 with every meal), Ester C, B complex, Silybin.

Make sure your daughter is exercising regularly, and cut out all white

sugar. Add fiber and roughage to her diet. I eat 4 tablespoons of Oat

Bran with Bran buds, 2 tablespoons of ground flax seeds with low fat

buttermilk (due to lactose intolerance, TG Lee is the only brand I can

tolerate).

Juicing is also recommended and/or fruit and salads. Oil and protein

are consipating because the gallbladder has a difficult time with it.

Lecithin will help her digest the fats, and enzymes will help her

consipation as well as fiber.

Willard Water is really good for constipation. You buy the concentrate

and dilute it. I drink it all day long. I spray it on my black and

blues and scratches and bites with a little extra concentrate in a spray

bottle and it heals really fast. Even have used it in my eyes, hair,

pets, plants, etc.

www.willardswater.com

If you go through the archives of this Group, you'll find the liver

cleansing techniques.

Namaste,

April 22, 2005

Hi

for her serious chronic constipation, and toxic body due to long years of

medication, i have some experience of my own to share.

firstly, i would suggest you could try coffee enema for your daughter. This will

detox her body of medication slowly. I am have my daily enema and it cleanses my

body of the years of steriod, painkiller i have taken. After each enema, i could

live normally without much pain. It will cut down the bad feelings of taking

cleansing herbs. Enema helps the liver to detox. When your daughter is better

having a daily coffee enema (maybe after 3 months), she could has colonics

therapy to clear away all the stuff that is in her colon for years.

Secondly, to my experience and many others who are constipate, upon rising,

immediately within 5 mins, drink 32 ounces (one litre) of water. Try it, it will

push the bad stuff out ohe colon.

Thirdly, invest in a juicer (twin gear juicer) and start juicing fruits & vegs,

esp green apples (for getting the stones out of the gallbladder), to cleanse the

body. Buy organic, it makes a difference to the body. To effectively break down

the stones of gallbladder, other than malic acid from the apples/M. Malate, get

Phos- Flow (Phosphoric acid, choline bitartrate, inositol and I-caratine), this

will also helps to break down the stones too. Be patient, your daughter may need

to drink 32 ounces of green apple juice and 90 drops of Phos -flow for more than

5 days to effectively breakdown the stones. It will take you wisdom to judge

whether your daughter will be ready for the gallbadder. To me, she has to be

painfree (esp her gallbadder, bile duct), she must be well in the sense not

feeling lousy.

If she is juicing as i stated above, she could stop other supplements, so that

the detox will not be to hash, and fruits and veg juice will repair many of the

problems in the body. She will begin to feel well from this juice therapy.

Fourthly, gallbladder would not cause pancreatitis, they are not directly

related. infra red suana will help her to detox from the skin, stimulate her

immune. But all this is secondary, cos the toxic in her colon and gallbladder

has to be dealt with, they are the main problems.

Fiftly, encourage her to stop all proccessed food for a time being during this

months of detox and healing.

Remember, if it take years for a body to reach such a state, both of you will

need patience to rebuild the toxin weak body.

hopes this helps

sincerely

jervin

Hurt By_meds <hurt_by_meds@...> wrote:

Thank you for your input. Here's my daughter's

situation: she was made very sick on medication for

several years and couldn't exercise or do much of

anything. This is over now, thankfully, and she is

exercising more and trying to slowly lose weight. She

eats a fairly healthy diet w/ lots of salads, veggies

and fruit. She drinks lots of water. Still, she

stays chronically constipated. She has been taking

Magnesium Malate for about a year. She often doesn't

feel that great and has some nausea which seems to be

happening more and more often. She has 3/4 " gallstone

and 2 polyps and also a dilated bile duct. She

recently started taking Milk of Magnesia which has

worked wonders for her constipation but I know it is

not good for her to take laxatives. But do you know

if this could help dissolve the gallstone?

I have tried to give her different cleansing herbs the

last couple of years but even in *very* small amounts,

they make her feel bad. Ex: milk thistle, she might

tolerate 1 drop, but no more. Also tried 1/2 capsule

of black walnut...she felt really bad for several

days. Colon cleanse herbs 1/2 capsule...feels bad

later. Small amounts of various cleansing

products...same result. I thought she was just so

toxic and that her colon was so clogged that she got

sick for this reason but maybe it had to do more w/

the gallbladder. She has AB blood type and tries to

eat according to what is supposed to be good for her

type. She can do infra-red sauna treatments. Does

anyone know if this can help?

I wish I had time to do lots of reading and research

but I also have a profoundly retarded son who requires

total care and am under pressure from the dr and my

husband to get this surgery done. She is out of

school this semester but needs to start back in Aug or

earlier possibly.

I am afraid to try to do these flushes...afraid they

will cause pancreatitis or whatever. Also, I don't

want to raise her estrogen level, although she has not

had her levels checked anytime recently.

Thanks,

Kathy

--- lightwalkercathy@... wrote:

> I suggest encouraging your daughter to start regular

> exercise (if she

> doesn't already), changing her diet and cutting out

> sugar altogether.

> Sugar, stress, poor diet, and lack of regular

> exercise are causes of

> gallstones. Constipation due to a poor diet would

> also be a

> contributing factor. Perhaps if the whole family

> worked together on it,

> she would feel encouragement.

>

> The cleansing really works. You might want to read

> some of Dr. Hulda

> 's books. The Cure for All Diseases got me

> started on it. She

> states that even children and the elderly can handle

> cleanses. Her

> latest book, The Cure for HIV/Aids gives some

> alternative cleansing

> methods, such as adding extra oil on the second day

> of the cleanse,

> which I've done successfully to get out more stones.

> Though the epsom

> salts are really necessary because the bile ducts

> will be open and

> stones can come out very easily without any pain

> because they get pooped

> out into the toilet. You can see them in all the

> different colors,

> green, red, black, tan.

>

> I did all of the kidney cleanse herbs about 12 years

> ago and also zapped

> prior to each cleanse, but this time around I'm not

> doing any of that

> and still having really excellent results with the

> cleanses. I do

> suggest though a parasite program the week of the

> cleanse, such as 4

> drops of oil of oregano in a little water twice a

> day. That kills

> parasites and is something you can easily buy at

> your local health food

> store. I suggest getting non-alcohol extracts only.

>

> Add lecithin capsules prior to each meal, and flax

> seed oil. I take the

> oil in a shake so I don't taste it. Make sure she

> gets enough fiber and

> her b.m.'s should be soft. If they're hard, she

> needs more water and

> fiber in the diet. This will help prevent stones.

> But make sure to cut

> out the sugar and add exercise, too, or she risks

> getting stones again.

>

> I read that there's a 40% chance of getting stones

> due to lack of

> exercise, and women are more likely to get stones

> than men.

>

> Namaste,

>

__________________________________________________

April 22, 2005

hi,

i have done 6 flushes and there is no end of stones seems to me. i

read in curezone site, people have done more than 100 flushes and there

is no end of their stones.

when these stone come to an end. we all are expelling pea green and

dark green stones whether we are old or young. sometime some people

writes that they expelled calcified stones, on the other hand in surgery

the stones are mostly calcified and some green.

surgery -- mostly calcified and some green (grey and light yellow in

colour)

flush - mostly green or pea green rarely calcified

my friend had done several flushes more than 10 and always expelled

green or pea green stones, but after surgery his stones were really like

stone (grey in colour and light yellow ) what is this ?

keeeeep fluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuing

Hurt By_meds <hurt_by_meds@...> wrote:

Thank you for your input. Here's my daughter's

situation: she was made very sick on medication for

several years and couldn't exercise or do much of

anything. This is over now, thankfully, and she is

exercising more and trying to slowly lose weight. She

eats a fairly healthy diet w/ lots of salads, veggies

and fruit. She drinks lots of water. Still, she

stays chronically constipated. She has been taking

Magnesium Malate for about a year. She often doesn't

feel that great and has some nausea which seems to be

happening more and more often. She has 3/4 " gallstone

and 2 polyps and also a dilated bile duct. She

recently started taking Milk of Magnesia which has

worked wonders for her constipation but I know it is

not good for her to take laxatives. But do you know

if this could help dissolve the gallstone?

I have tried to give her different cleansing herbs the

last couple of years but even in *very* small amounts,

they make her feel bad. Ex: milk thistle, she might

tolerate 1 drop, but no more. Also tried 1/2 capsule

of black walnut...she felt really bad for several

days. Colon cleanse herbs 1/2 capsule...feels bad

later. Small amounts of various cleansing

products...same result. I thought she was just so

toxic and that her colon was so clogged that she got

sick for this reason but maybe it had to do more w/

the gallbladder. She has AB blood type and tries to

eat according to what is supposed to be good for her

type. She can do infra-red sauna treatments. Does

anyone know if this can help?

I wish I had time to do lots of reading and research

but I also have a profoundly retarded son who requires

total care and am under pressure from the dr and my

husband to get this surgery done. She is out of

school this semester but needs to start back in Aug or

earlier possibly.

I am afraid to try to do these flushes...afraid they

will cause pancreatitis or whatever. Also, I don't

want to raise her estrogen level, although she has not

had her levels checked anytime recently.

Thanks,

Kathy

--- lightwalkercathy@... wrote:

> I suggest encouraging your daughter to start regular

> exercise (if she

> doesn't already), changing her diet and cutting out

> sugar altogether.

> Sugar, stress, poor diet, and lack of regular

> exercise are causes of

> gallstones. Constipation due to a poor diet would

> also be a

> contributing factor. Perhaps if the whole family

> worked together on it,

> she would feel encouragement.

>

> The cleansing really works. You might want to read

> some of Dr. Hulda

> 's books. The Cure for All Diseases got me

> started on it. She

> states that even children and the elderly can handle

> cleanses. Her

> latest book, The Cure for HIV/Aids gives some

> alternative cleansing

> methods, such as adding extra oil on the second day

> of the cleanse,

> which I've done successfully to get out more stones.

> Though the epsom

> salts are really necessary because the bile ducts

> will be open and

> stones can come out very easily without any pain

> because they get pooped

> out into the toilet. You can see them in all the

> different colors,

> green, red, black, tan.

>

> I did all of the kidney cleanse herbs about 12 years

> ago and also zapped

> prior to each cleanse, but this time around I'm not

> doing any of that

> and still having really excellent results with the

> cleanses. I do

> suggest though a parasite program the week of the

> cleanse, such as 4

> drops of oil of oregano in a little water twice a

> day. That kills

> parasites and is something you can easily buy at

> your local health food

> store. I suggest getting non-alcohol extracts only.

>

> Add lecithin capsules prior to each meal, and flax

> seed oil. I take the

> oil in a shake so I don't taste it. Make sure she

> gets enough fiber and

> her b.m.'s should be soft. If they're hard, she

> needs more water and

> fiber in the diet. This will help prevent stones.

> But make sure to cut

> out the sugar and add exercise, too, or she risks

> getting stones again.

>

> I read that there's a 40% chance of getting stones

> due to lack of

> exercise, and women are more likely to get stones

> than men.

>

> Namaste,

>

__________________________________________________

April 22, 2005

If your friend had gallbladder surgery and it was removed, the stones

are coming from the liver and not the gallbladder which accounts for the

change in color in the stones. No more bile is being produced as there

isn't a gallbladder anymore, therefore the change in color. There are

stones in the liver and gallbladder, and so removing the gallbladder

doesn't mean there aren't any more stones. He may not have the

digestive pain anymore, but it doesn't mean he won't produce stones.

I've done 13 double cleanses, cleansing every two weeks from last

November through today. I've read that there are 2,000-3,000 stones,

though others have stated there are more than that. I'm hoping for the

lesser quantity. There does come an end to the stones, but the key is

to get the most amount out at one time so flushing doesn't go on and on

and on meanwhile suffering from digestive problems. I'd gotten them all

out many years ago. But am now back here faithfully flushing again.

Namaste,

April 22, 2005

Hi and thank you so much for your input.

I have a few questions about your msg--are coffee

enemas safe for someone who has a large gallstone, and

possibly one inside a bile duct? How do I do these

and is there a way to do it in a mild version the

first time (if that makes sense)?

Also, should this water at the beginning of the day be

warm or cold?

I have a Vitamix...is that ok to use? Would you use

the Granny apples?

The pancreas and the gallbladder are not related? I

thought it was the gallstones which caused the

pancreatitis... ??

Thank you soooo much for all these ideas.

Hurt_by_meds

--- lim tenglai <jervinlim@...> wrote:

> firstly, i would suggest you could try coffee enema

> for your daughter. This will detox her body of

> medication slowly.

> Secondly, to my experience and many others who are

> constipate, upon rising, immediately within 5 mins,

> drink 32 ounces (one litre) of water. Try it, it

> will push the bad stuff out ohe colon.

>

> start juicing fruits & vegs, esp green apples (for

> getting the stones out of the gallbladder), to

> cleanse the body.

To effectively break down the stones of

> gallbladder, other than malic acid from the

> apples/M. Malate, get Phos- Flow (Phosphoric acid,

> choline bitartrate, inositol and I-caratine), this

> will also helps to break down the stones too. Be

> patient, your daughter may need to drink 32 ounces

> of green apple juice and 90 drops of Phos -flow for

> more than 5 days to effectively breakdown the

> stones.

>

> Fourthly, gallbladder would not cause pancreatitis,

> they are not directly related.

>

__________________________________________________

April 23, 2005

hello

coffe enemas are use by gerson therapies for cancer patients. It's main purpose

is to detox the body. Pls refer to the link for more infor

http://www.healingdaily.com/liver-detoxification/coffee-enema.htm

But if your daugther large gallbladder stones is a problem, i do see that you

can have water enema, just to cleanse the colon without detoxifying the body. It

will at least help her constipation. And i do need to clarify one thing about

coffee enema. It will will cause dependency nor will will cause your colon to be

weaken. Having enema with 32 ounces of water(coffee) will instead strengthen the

colon muscles. I do believe your daughter have weak colon, that may be a reason

why taking lots of fiber doesn't help her. In my case, i too have weak colon. i

need to take things that would stimulate my bowel movements. Without taking

stimulating food (chilly, herbs, coffee), i would constipate. By the way, never

did i heard of oil causing constipation. The main cause of constipation is not

taking enough fiber and taking too much meat. I do read of articles saying

enemas will weaken the colon and one will become depend om it. Yet i do read

articles saying enemas will strengthen the colon

muscle. For me, my experience is positive. I am having my daily bowel movements

before taking my enemas. My colon muscles is stronger now. Today without enema,

i could still have a much better bowel movement. I take daily coffee enema for

detox, not for bowel movement. But it will help the colon.

From another point of view, i don't agree taking high enema. I tried a few times

and the logic behind is to put in 64- 96ounces of water inside the colon. This

is good if you do it once per month, but i do not encourage it daily as so much

water inside will force the colon to expand top its limit. It will cause a over

stretch colon. For your daughter, is the color of her feces normal, if it is,

then it means even tho she has a stone in her GB, but the bile is still able to

flow out to hercolon. This will implies that she is safe and greatly encourage

to take COFFEE ENEMAs. This will detox her. But if her feces is pale, water

enema will be enough, as the bile is jammed up by the stone. By hte way , has

she try taking 32 ounces of water upon rising, see if this helps?

For the pancreatitis, it would only occur when the stone obstruct the enzymes

flow from the pancreas, it would be that the stone is almost at the end of the

bile duct. Not every case of gallbladder will cause pancreatits. For your

daughter, i would advise if you intend to do the flush, drink oragnic apple

juice (granny smith is good) 32 ounces for at least five days. Of course you

could complement it with herds, or other things (like phos-flow) which you deen

that would also soften the stone. On the day to flush, Epson Salt is very

important, as it would relax the bile duct preventing the stone to get jammed at

the end of the duct. (In this case, your daughter will have pancreatitis) Next

is the olive oil, get organic, it taste better and easiler to swallow. At least

16ounces of it. This amount will push the stone out forcefully. If let say it

got jammed haft way, drink it the next day.

Next, i do see that you are encourage by others to buy different

products/supplements; but take note, jucing is much cheaper and effective. I

tried a lot of good supplements, i should say, those from garden of life is one

of the best. But in money is limited, jucing is also very good for nutrient.

Kepp the money for organic food for the family. I have weak digestion, heart

burn in the past. I tried a lot of supplements, i should say firstly, good

supplements cost. Cheap ones cause pain in my stomach (indigestion). The best is

juicing, as in just one cups of carrot juice, there's phytochemicals, minerals,

vitamins, enzymes etc all much more better than proccessed supplements. I tried

jucing wheat grass and taking wheatgrass supplement, my body tells me it desire

the juice as it is easiler to digest.

What i have shared is thro much studies and experiments to my own body.

Hopes all this helps!

sincerely

jervin

Hurt By_meds <hurt_by_meds@...> wrote:

Hi and thank you so much for your input.

I have a few questions about your msg--are coffee

enemas safe for someone who has a large gallstone, and

possibly one inside a bile duct? How do I do these

and is there a way to do it in a mild version the

first time (if that makes sense)?

Also, should this water at the beginning of the day be

warm or cold?

I have a Vitamix...is that ok to use? Would you use

the Granny apples?

The pancreas and the gallbladder are not related? I

thought it was the gallstones which caused the

pancreatitis... ??

Thank you soooo much for all these ideas.

Hurt_by_meds

--- lim tenglai <jervinlim@...> wrote:

> firstly, i would suggest you could try coffee enema

> for your daughter. This will detox her body of

> medication slowly.

> Secondly, to my experience and many others who are

> constipate, upon rising, immediately within 5 mins,

> drink 32 ounces (one litre) of water. Try it, it

> will push the bad stuff out ohe colon.

>

> start juicing fruits & vegs, esp green apples (for

> getting the stones out of the gallbladder), to

> cleanse the body.

To effectively break down the stones of

> gallbladder, other than malic acid from the

> apples/M. Malate, get Phos- Flow (Phosphoric acid,

> choline bitartrate, inositol and I-caratine), this

> will also helps to break down the stones too. Be

> patient, your daughter may need to drink 32 ounces

> of green apple juice and 90 drops of Phos -flow for

> more than 5 days to effectively breakdown the

> stones.

>

> Fourthly, gallbladder would not cause pancreatitis,

> they are not directly related.

>

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April 23, 2005

Can you expand on this statement as it goes against avery thing I have

heard.

lim tenglai wrote:

> <>

> Fourthly, gallbladder would not cause pancreatitis, they are not

> directly related. infra red suana will help her to detox from the

> skin, stimulate her immune. But all this is secondary, cos the toxic

> in her colon and gallbladder has to be dealt with, they are the main

> problems.

>

> sincerely

> jervin

April 23, 2005

For the pancreatitis, it would only occur when the stone obstruct the enzymes

flow from the pancreas, it would be that the stone is almost at the end of the

bile duct. Therefore not every case of gallbladder will cause pancreatits.

hope it will helps

sincerely

jervin

G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> wrote:

Can you expand on this statement as it goes against avery thing I have

heard.

lim tenglai wrote:

> <>

> Fourthly, gallbladder would not cause pancreatitis, they are not

> directly related. infra red suana will help her to detox from the

> skin, stimulate her immune. But all this is secondary, cos the toxic

> in her colon and gallbladder has to be dealt with, they are the main

> problems.

>

> sincerely

> jervin

April 23, 2005

I would caution against drinking 16 ounces of olive oil all at once for

a liver cleanse. She might vomit and ruin the cleanse and not want to

do another cleanse. More than 1/2 cup at one time is enough. I

suggested a double cleanse which is an additional 1/2 cup the next

morning, therefore expelling even more stones. Even one cup all at once

made me immediately almost puke. It was all I could do to hold it down.

Everyone's health is at a different point, and I would take it easy.

Even when I eat fat in a meal, I feel slightly nauseous even after 13

cleanses. To me that just means I have more stones. We aren't stone

free until there are 2 cleanses in a row with no stones.

I have 2 juicers, a Champion and a Vitamix. I use the Champion for the

liver cleanse, as no pulp is to be used in the liver cleanse, just the

juice. So a juicer that expels the pulp is also good to have.

namaste,

cathy

April 24, 2005

Sorry, it should be 4 ounces. i got the conversion wrong, in my country we use

ml. 1/2 cup, apprx 125ml of olive oil would be very enough.

lightwalkercathy@... wrote:I would caution against drinking 16 ounces of

olive oil all at once for