Re: Re: Liver Disease and my sister

[Guest guest]

Will, for what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you more, and, veterinary

medicine seems no better.

Nurses and medical practitoners who heal seem to be being replaced by people

who don't seem to know or care about suffering or comfort, physical or

emotional, especially where the elderly are concerned.

When I was a boy, I was bored with adults who wondered what the world was

coming to, now I think I understand.

There are many of us who believe as you and I do although we're scattered

and outnumbered.

I wish I had an answer. Sadly, as things stand, I hope for the best and

pretty-much expect the worst - a rotten state of affairs. I find it

difficult to maintain any kind of optimism these days.

I'd have preferred to say something uplifting although perhaps, knowing that

you're not alone in your views may give you cause to feel a little better.

I think our emperors are wearing no clothes - if you see what I'm saying.

My best wishes to you.

Maj

----- Original Message -----

From: " Will Winter " <holistic@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:49 AM

Subject: Re: Liver Disease and my sister

:

: My heart goes out to all those now in the hospital or to those who

: have loved ones in the hospital.

:

: In spite of all the amazing Star-Trek advancements in certain

: aspects of modern medicine it seems the field of healing the

: chronically ill has taken a huge backslide plus IT'S GETTING

: WORSE! What modern medicine is good at is giving you pain

: medicine to make your death more comfortable and more

: sanitary in appearance. They are also good at subjecting you to

: an endless barrage of invasive, dangerous and debilitating

: tests. The main point, of course is to extract every cent you have

: available for health care before you die. The average

: gastroenterologist kills more people in a month than Dr

: Kervorkian has assisted to death in his whole career!

:

: What I hear that is lacking in all the recent reports of hospitalized

: patients is

: 1) TRUE DIAGNOSIS. Isn't it curious that not a one of these

: people have probably been tested for heavy metal poisoning or

: pesticide poisoning of the liver? How many have been tested for

: Lyme disease, Candidiasis, or other ENDOTOXIC illnesses?

:

: 2) TRUE LIVER SUPPORT. What this would look like is

: MEGAVITAMINS, ENZYMES, MINERALS, HERBS (Dandelion,

: Milk Thistle, Tumeric, Garlic and many many more) and a truly

: supportive NUTRITIVE PLAN of substances with real vitality and

: life force such as wheat grass juice, tropical fruits, raw eggs, raw

: liver, juiced vegetables and so on.

:

: 3) CESSATION OF TOXIC DRUGS. This is mostly in the guise of

: unnecessary and megastrength antibiotics and especially

: steroids. This is what' s killing most patients. (note: antibiotics

: are fine if you TRULY have a bacterial infection as a primary

: condition, most don't) Antibiotics do nothing for endotoxins in

: fact they can increase it by destroying and rupturing bacteria. If

: people have a bacterial infection it is the endotoxins that kill and

: maim the liver. It's completely ignored in modern medicine for

: some reason.

:

: 4) IMMUNE TONICS these patients are coming into the hospital

: with depressed immune systems. Why are the doctors killing

: what's left of the immune system with steroids and liver-toxic

: antibiotics? Why don't doctors use ECHINACEA, GINGSING,

: and other incredible immune tonics? (CLUE there is not ONE

: single tonic medicine in the entire scope of Western Medicine!)

:

: 5) EXOTIC THERAPY There are amazing results being

: achieved in highly scientific clinics all over the world using such

: techniques as IV OZONE, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE and other

: CHELATORS. Most of these rescue techniques while drastic are

: not costly, not difficult and not harmful to the patient. So many

: lives could be saved with this intervention.

:

: 6) PRAYER, HANDS-ON HEALING, MEDITATION, IMAGERY,

: HYPNOTHERAPY and so many other mental techniques

: PROVEN to create healing in almost all who try.

:

: 7) ENERGY MEDICINE, such as TCM or HOMEPATHY.

: Incredible results and (with TCM) at least 5000 years of proof

: that it works.

:

: IN SUMMARY, your biggest risk of being in the hospital is being

: killed by " modern medicine " . Most TRUE THERAPY is illegal or

: against hospital policy. Once you get stuck in the slammer you

: are on a conveyer belt to hell. Any alternative approach can land

: the doctor in jail or legal court so we have a system that is

: perfect for extracting maximum money, killing all but the most

: resiliant patients and still pretending we are living in a civilized

: country.

:

: Again, my heart goes out to all of you that are suffering, May God

: bless you and get you out of the place of death you are not

: trapped in, and into the hands of a holistic healer that can make

: you well again.

:

: God Bless,

:

: Will in Minnesota

:

:

:

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

okay

a little pessimism is in order but let's get back to

optimism.

There is a holistic movement and slowly and surely

people will learn to educate themselves.

Modern medicine is not completely to blame here,

people are not taking responsibility for their own

health.

You meet people all the time who know everything about

baseball but nothing about their bodies.

People who only put the most expensive gas in their

car because the car must have it to work properly and

they drive to Mc's and put toxic waste in their

bodies.

Sickness is an opportunity to wake-up smell the roses

and educate ourselves about our health our bodies

needs, what vitamins minerals etc.

It's not a burden, it's a learning experience.

It's an opportunity to buy books, learn about

digestion, foods, vitamins and minerals.

It's a great journey.

I'm really grateful my first gallstone attack about a

year ago, I thought I knew all about health, I have

tons of books on nutrition and the body. I thought I

had the perfect diet (vegan at the time)

But I learned disease isn't just for obese people who

don't exercise and eat right.

Disease can come to you if you obsess about your

health,(state of mind) it can come due to your genes.

it can coo me due a lack of fats or too much fats,

it's all about balance.

Now I'm more compassionate and understanding and less

of a preacher

Update,

I've been taking that natural calm and my eyetwiches

have subsided tremendously.

I'm also juicing deep green vegetables twice a day

past couple of days.

I'm juicing Kale, cucumber and dandelion.

I put celtic sea salt in it and some flax seed oil.

Feeling very optimistic

Eating wild caught Atlantic salmon.

Excellent!

I'm sending all of you positive vibrations.

--- Maj <casual_but_smart@...> wrote:

> Will, for what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you

> more, and, veterinary

> medicine seems no better.

>

> Nurses and medical practitoners who heal seem to be

> being replaced by people

> who don't seem to know or care about suffering or

> comfort, physical or

> emotional, especially where the elderly are

> concerned.

>

> When I was a boy, I was bored with adults who

> wondered what the world was

> coming to, now I think I understand.

>

> There are many of us who believe as you and I do

> although we're scattered

> and outnumbered.

>

> I wish I had an answer. Sadly, as things stand, I

> hope for the best and

> pretty-much expect the worst - a rotten state of

> affairs. I find it

> difficult to maintain any kind of optimism these

> days.

>

> I'd have preferred to say something uplifting

> although perhaps, knowing that

> you're not alone in your views may give you cause to

> feel a little better.

>

> I think our emperors are wearing no clothes - if you

> see what I'm saying.

>

> My best wishes to you.

>

>

> Maj

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Will Winter " <holistic@...>

> <gallstones >

> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:49 AM

> Subject: Re: Liver Disease and my

> sister

>

>

> :

> : My heart goes out to all those now in the hospital

> or to those who

> : have loved ones in the hospital.

> :

> : In spite of all the amazing Star-Trek advancements

> in certain

> : aspects of modern medicine it seems the field of

> healing the

> : chronically ill has taken a huge backslide plus

> IT'S GETTING

> : WORSE! What modern medicine is good at is giving

> you pain

> : medicine to make your death more comfortable and

> more

> : sanitary in appearance. They are also good at

> subjecting you to

> : an endless barrage of invasive, dangerous and

> debilitating

> : tests. The main point, of course is to extract

> every cent you have

> : available for health care before you die. The

> average

> : gastroenterologist kills more people in a month

> than Dr

> : Kervorkian has assisted to death in his whole

> career!

> :

> : What I hear that is lacking in all the recent

> reports of hospitalized

> : patients is

> : 1) TRUE DIAGNOSIS. Isn't it curious that not a

> one of these

> : people have probably been tested for heavy metal

> poisoning or

> : pesticide poisoning of the liver? How many have

> been tested for

> : Lyme disease, Candidiasis, or other ENDOTOXIC

> illnesses?

> :

> : 2) TRUE LIVER SUPPORT. What this would look like

> is

> : MEGAVITAMINS, ENZYMES, MINERALS, HERBS

> (Dandelion,

> : Milk Thistle, Tumeric, Garlic and many many more)

> and a truly

> : supportive NUTRITIVE PLAN of substances with real

> vitality and

> : life force such as wheat grass juice, tropical

> fruits, raw eggs, raw

> : liver, juiced vegetables and so on.

> :

> : 3) CESSATION OF TOXIC DRUGS. This is mostly in the

> guise of

> : unnecessary and megastrength antibiotics and

> especially

> : steroids. This is what' s killing most patients.

> (note: antibiotics

> : are fine if you TRULY have a bacterial infection

> as a primary

> : condition, most don't) Antibiotics do nothing for

> endotoxins in

> : fact they can increase it by destroying and

> rupturing bacteria. If

> : people have a bacterial infection it is the

> endotoxins that kill and

> : maim the liver. It's completely ignored in modern

> medicine for

> : some reason.

> :

> : 4) IMMUNE TONICS these patients are coming into

> the hospital

> : with depressed immune systems. Why are the doctors

> killing

> : what's left of the immune system with steroids and

> liver-toxic

> : antibiotics? Why don't doctors use ECHINACEA,

> GINGSING,

> : and other incredible immune tonics? (CLUE there

> is not ONE

> : single tonic medicine in the entire scope of

> Western Medicine!)

> :

> : 5) EXOTIC THERAPY There are amazing results

> being

> : achieved in highly scientific clinics all over the

> world using such

> : techniques as IV OZONE, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE and

> other

> : CHELATORS. Most of these rescue techniques while

> drastic are

> : not costly, not difficult and not harmful to the

> patient. So many

> : lives could be saved with this intervention.

> :

> : 6) PRAYER, HANDS-ON HEALING, MEDITATION,

> IMAGERY,

> : HYPNOTHERAPY and so many other mental techniques

> : PROVEN to create healing in almost all who try.

> :

> : 7) ENERGY MEDICINE, such as TCM or HOMEPATHY.

> : Incredible results and (with TCM) at least 5000

> years of proof

> : that it works.

> :

> : IN SUMMARY, your biggest risk of being in the

> hospital is being

> : killed by " modern medicine " . Most TRUE THERAPY is

> illegal or

> : against hospital policy. Once you get stuck in the

> slammer you

> : are on a conveyer belt to hell. Any alternative

> approach can land

> : the doctor in jail or legal court so we have a

> system that is

> : perfect for extracting maximum money, killing all

> but the most

> : resiliant patients and still pretending we are

> living in a civilized

> : country.

> :

> : Again, my heart goes out to all of you that are

> suffering, May God

> : bless you and get you out of the place of death

> you are not

> : trapped in, and into the hands of a holistic

> healer that can make

> : you well again.

> :

> : God Bless,

> :

> : Will in Minnesota

> :

> :

> :

> :

> : Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver

> flush stories:

> : http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

> : http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80

> : http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100

> : http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

> :

> : Liver Cleanse Recipe:

> http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> :

> : Liver Flush FAQ:

> http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73

> :

> : Images:

> : http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/

> :

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What is in natural calm?

G Murray

denise milfort wrote:

> <>Update,

> I've been taking that natural calm and my eyetwiches

> have subsided tremendously.

> I'm also juicing deep green vegetables twice a day

> past couple of days.

> I'm juicing Kale, cucumber and dandelion.

> I put celtic sea salt in it and some flax seed oil.

> Feeling very optimistic

> Eating wild caught Atlantic salmon.

> Excellent!

> I'm sending all of you positive vibrations.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi G K Murray

Natural calm ---It's a magnesium supplement I got at

my healthfood store.

Supposedly some doctor developed it to be the most

absorb-able form of magnesium, either way I felt it

working right away.

It's made me a lot nicer person too, Not that I wasn't

nice before

I'm still on the smallest dose which is 1 teaspoon a

day, ideally you should get up to 3 teaspoons a day.

I've been also reading that the magnesium daily

requirement is even higher than 1000 mg a day that's

almost like calcium.

I do think it's that and the juices tha'ts making the

defference for the eyetwitches and the muscle twitches

are pretty much non-existent. I used to feel my quads

jump,alon with other muscles(pretty scary) , someone

here wrote magnesium is bound to chlorophyll that's

why I started juicing the deep green stuff.

I also want to add that I took a look at my bloodtest

I requested a copy from my doctor, levels were not

tested.

I can't understand how such an important mineral isn't

tested in standard blood test.

Most food labels don't even include magnesium, I guess

in the end it's all about money.

I wonder if I could start some kind of movement that

would require food labels to also list magnesium.

Just a thought!

--- G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> What is in natural calm?

>

> G Murray

>

> denise milfort wrote:

>

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