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In a message dated 3/21/2005 10:25:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ladybug35@... writes:

> I know my GB problems are hormone related

Estrogen gums up the liver if it doesnt clear properly. Its kinda a chicken

and egg thing -- which came first -- gummed up liver or excess estrogen (which

causes bloating, PMS and peri-menopausal symptoms which are normally

estrogen-dominance symptoms). Read up on this if you are interested at

Chang's

site www.sensiblehealth.com I have not taken Fem-Mate, her product, but as I

have cleaned my liver with her other products my hot flashes have abated.

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I've read that birth control pills leave a spot in the liver. All drugs

are filtered through the liver, so if you can do without drugs as much

as possible you'd be doing your liver a favor.

I've always cleansed every 2 weeks no matter what. For me, waiting even

the 2 weeks is torture. Though I have felt weaker when cleansing during

my periods. I feel that all cleanses are good though I feel that the

system I have works really well. I've found that the amount of olive

oil directly affects the amount of stones: more oil - more stones.

The epsoms guarantee that the stones will come out easily. I tried 1

cup of oil all at once even with more fresh grapefruit juice and nearly

vomited! It was close, and I'll never do that again, ugh. The other

thing I found was making sure I only had fruit that day. I tried

different combinations of foods and any food that has protein will also

block the stones from coming out.

For a long time, I was eating red potatoes with salt during a cleanse,

and didn't get many stones out during months of cleansing. It wasn't

until I started drinking several glasses of organic apple juice during

the cleanse that I started having really good results.

For those that suffer from Candida, I read that eating a bit of peel

from the fruit, or seeds tend to make the system more Yang, thereby

counteracting any Candida. This may help you tolerate the fruit. Maybe

eating part of an apple core, or the peel.

Another thing to consider is making sure you've done some kind of

parasite killing right up to the day of the cleanse, at least for a few

days.

If you stick to just fruit during your cleanse and drink the apple

juice, you'll find yourself pretty cleaned out before you even have the

epsoms. I've found it to be quite laxative and the apple juice cleans

out the liver due to the malic acid. There's more malic acid in the

organic juice than the commercial brands of juice which is why it works

so well.

You might just need to reevaluate your cleansing technique and try

something else if it's not working well for you.

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And of course being overweight in itself is a source of excess

estrogen. (Said after eating a maple and chocolate easter egg. WHERE'S

THE LECITHIN. ) Old habits hard to break -- but at least I'm eating

only about 20% as much bad stuff as before attack....

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mackarmstr@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/21/2005 10:25:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> ladybug35@... writes:

>

>

> > I know my GB problems are hormone related

>

> Estrogen gums up the liver if it doesnt clear properly. Its kinda a

> chicken

> and egg thing -- which came first -- gummed up liver or excess

> estrogen (which

> causes bloating, PMS and peri-menopausal symptoms which are normally

> estrogen-dominance symptoms). Read up on this if you are interested at

> Chang's

> site www.sensiblehealth.com I have not taken Fem-Mate, her product,

> but as I

> have cleaned my liver with her other products my hot flashes have abated.

>

>

>

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Thanks ladies for all the hints on cleansing

during our monthlies........

I have a question about using the olive oil,

have you ever tried the flax seed oil for a cleanse

if so, were your results as good as with olive oil?

thanks,

Dee

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Hi Carol,

I hope you realize that sugar is one of the causes gallstones! The

biggest thing you can do to prevent gallstones is cut out the sugar and

exercise. Another is to take a high quality Silybin which is better

than regular milk thistle.

What works best for me is to not buy the stuff or keep it in the house.

Work, though is challenging at times, but it's getting better there,

too. Not as many holiday sweets as there used to be.

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I don't know about drinking flax seed oil for a cleanse. It's too

expensive to drink in large quantities, don't you think? I buy olive

oil in bulk sizes at Sam's Club.

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Hi, I'm new to the group I'm 30 yrs old and I just had my 4th baby 4 weeks

ago. I believe I am experiencing gallbladder attacks from everything I have

read. It sounds like it anyway, I don't have a lot of time to write but am

wondering if anyone has done a cleanse while nursing a newborn. If so

please let me know which cleanse you did. Do you think it is safe to

cleanse while nursing?

Thanks!

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Hello Randi,

I've been off the pills for almost a year now.

I immediately stopped taking them when I found out what was

causing my GB disease. Of course, the hot flashes came back and

the other symptoms of peri-menopause but I have since then

supplemented with herbs for support during this time.

I would strongly recommend to anyone, Do not take

the BC pills or HRT. There are natural alternatives that

will give relief for the symptoms without side effects.

I learned my lesson the hard way.

thanks again for the advice,

Dee

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Thanks for support. As one cuts back drastically and STLL sees problems,

one realizes how important it is. Also, I find I become more sensitive

to negative effects of sugar the less I do, which also reinforces that

it is bad. My biggest problem is roommate who buys goodies and then

only does a taste and doesn't care if I eat the rest!. So I throw them

in the freezer and they become less and less tempting til I toss them

:-) CM

lightwalkercathy@... wrote:

> Hi Carol,

>

> I hope you realize that sugar is one of the causes gallstones! The

> biggest thing you can do to prevent gallstones is cut out the sugar and

> exercise. Another is to take a high quality Silybin which is better

> than regular milk thistle.

>

> What works best for me is to not buy the stuff or keep it in the house.

> Work, though is challenging at times, but it's getting better there,

> too. Not as many holiday sweets as there used to be.

>

>

>

>

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